I am trying the low carb diet. My Doc said i am IR so i need to watch my carb and sugar intake. I am a little confused about the net carbs and total carbs. On different websites of low carb products it will show a product having a net carb of 2 but as i read more the total carb was like 14. Doesn't seem low carb to me. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks!

Total carbs - fiber = net carbs

I am trying the low carb diet. My Doc said i am IR so i need to watch my carb and sugar intake. I am a little confused about the net carbs and total carbs. On different websites of low carb products it will show a product having a net carb of 2 but as i read more the total carb was like 14. Doesn't seem low carb to me. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks!

net carbs are the carbs MINUS the fiber and in those "specialty" products they also deduct sugar alcohols because they have a negligable impact on your BS. I would stay away from them though..those sugar alcohols are umm...a pain in the rear. To put it nicely.


Atkins website has a really good "acceptable foods list" designed for people in phase one of their program..but it is also good as a list to consult for very low carb choices

net carbs are the carbs MINUS the fiber and in those "specialty" products they also deduct sugar alcohols because they have a negligable impact on your BS. I would stay away from them though..those sugar alcohols are umm...a pain in the rear. To put it nicely.


Atkins website has a really good "acceptable foods list" designed for people in phase one of their program..but it is also good as a list to consult for very low carb choices

Thank you both. I have been keeping a log of what i eat and the carbs. I went back and redid them. Ya i could of ate a little bit more the past two days...lol! I just need good tasting bread. I hate eating eggs with out a piece of toast.

Since my wife and I are supposed to maintain a high-protein/low-carb diet permanently - not that I always do - our doctor instructs us that net carbs are simply a gimmick. You count carbs, period. Your body isn't cutting you slack because you ate fiber and if you want to lose weight, you can't tank up on carbs thinking that fiber's going to undo it all for you.

Larry and I are low-carbing it. He's an enthusiastic convert and will most likely be on here shortly to tell you how much better he feels.

Larry and I are low-carbing it. He's an enthusiastic convert and will most likely be on here shortly to tell you how much better he feels.
Oh hell, that could just be him sobering up since cutting out the beer...:lol:

Since my wife and I are supposed to maintain a high-protein/low-carb diet permanently - not that I always do - our doctor instructs us that net carbs are simply a gimmick. You count carbs, period. Your body isn't cutting you slack because you ate fiber and if you want to lose weight, you can't tank up on carbs thinking that fiber's going to undo it all for you.

It encourages fiber intake. And generally, higher fiber carbs are ones that are complex, and whole grain, rather than the terrible for you one..like sugar, white flour, etc. I wouldn't call it a "gimmick" per se...as in general it will only cut off a few extra carbs from any given item.

While not exactly low carb, another good one is the South Beach Diet. One of it's goals is to change the type of carbs you eat, like complex vs simple carbs and sticking to whole grains.

Oh hell, that could just be him sobering up since cutting out the beer...:lol:

Nah, he's usually grouchy when he sobers up...









:lol:

eat healthy & in moderation is the key 2 include exercise. not like some of them do. They`re already thinkin about what`s 4 dinner.

I always think about food..:killingme Now i am thinking about healthier versions of my favorite foods.

It encourages fiber intake. And generally, higher fiber carbs are ones that are complex, and whole grain, rather than the terrible for you one..like sugar, white flour, etc. I wouldn't call it a "gimmick" per se...as in general it will only cut off a few extra carbs from any given item.

Well, especially for gastric bypass patients like ourselves, carbs are carbs - they still have the same caloric value and they still produce the same effect on us. Total carbs then, is still what counts, since the caloric value is not offset by anything. I do think it's gimmicky, and I haven't met a nutritionist who gives it any credence.

Well, especially for gastric bypass patients like ourselves, carbs are carbs - they still have the same caloric value and they still produce the same effect on us. Total carbs then, is still what counts, since the caloric value is not offset by anything. I do think it's gimmicky, and I haven't met a nutritionist who gives it any credence.

Right. Calories in, calories out. When talking about a low carb diet, though, you have to take into account its afffect on blood sugar. Fiber isn't broken down the same way in the body as most carbs (natural fiber that is) so it doesn't have the same impact on blood sugar..which matters to say, diabetics or those trying to get into or stay in ketosis. SO as far as calories or weight loss when not part of a low carb diet..no they don't matter. But to low carbers they do indeed have a minimal impact on the foods allowed for a given day.

I have arrived.


OK, here's the deal; low carb is the be all end all of the universe and if you don't do it, you are dumb.

Now, if you are an athlete, I imagine you need more carbs and will burn them and fat and everything else you consume and it's not as big a deal. Not ready to weigh in on that one just yet.

My old diet; high carb cereal for breakfast and/or bagel (more carbs) plus blueberries, plus banana (more carbs) black coffee.

Lunch; typically a meat (special of the day at the local place) plus potatoes/mac n cheese, a green veggie, a roll, no butter ( :lol: ) and some dessert thing, typically a pack of peanut M & M's. Diet drink. Or a cold sub and too many potato chips and M & M's.

Dinner; Whatever. Go out, meat, carbs, maybe dessert, maybe a few brews. Pasta, pasta, pasta.


For me, Regular Joe, late 40's pretty active life style, food loving whore, beer drinker, carb junkie, it's been a huge net plus to my life BUT it's not even a week yet. So, we'll see.

Now here's what I like, the net improvement in my life; No after meal crash. No stuffed feeling. This has been replaced with, well, nothingness. I get right back to whatever I was doing at the same pace and intensity and concentration level as before I stopped to eat. And here is where it gets more better; no more shaky, pranging, distracting hunger that the heavy carb diet gave me.

Vrai told me that it wouldn't be long and my craving for carbs would be gone. It took a day. She has me doing low carb. We tried no carb years ago and it was misery, constant craving for chips and pasta and bread. Now, we walked through the grocery store and I hadn't eaten in probably five hours or so and, normally, she'd be yelling at me opening bags of chips before we'd paid for them. At minimum, I would "Homer" them walking past "mmmm...potato chips..." Nothing. Couldn't have cared less. That is still going strong.

Went shopping today and I am now all about the carb count. Worst thing I have is a cereal with 20 carbs and tortilla chips for salsa that are 14 (or 17?).

I am just satisfied now, not gorging and good to go for hours and hours. I just ate lunch with nothing but coffee this morning and, pre low carb, I'd have killed someone by now and used their wallet to buy chips. As it is, I was hungry but, not insane about it. Yesterday, I went from 9 am until 6pm between meals. I just feel better, calmer. More focused and no crashing and bursting up and down.

If I don't lose a pound this is more better. Way more.

Anything you wanna know just ask Vrai; she's been spot on about the when, why's and how's of this.



:buddies:

Started low carb Sunday. I'm a hiccup monster the last two days now...is there a relation? I've googled and can't seem to find one.

Started low carb Sunday. I'm a hiccup monster the last two days now...is there a relation? I've googled and can't seem to find one.Hmmmm. I am low carb, and I also get hiccups badly. Usually, I just have one or two loud hiccups....not a whole string of 'em.

I just figured that I got my hiccups from eating too quicky. :shrug:

So far i am doing good. The only things i crave is my chinese and french fries. I did have some french fries but i ate the serving size and not a bit more. I made nachos last night and the total of carbs was like 21. Thats with seasoned chicken,salsa,cheese,onions, and peppers. Oh and the chips too. Total calories were about 360. I could cut it done if i had better cheese. In fact it taste ok with out the cheese. Mrs. Dash is my best friend. Using that seasoning is a great way to cut the salt down too!

Yesterday, I went from 9 am until 6pm between meals.
:nono: Bad Larry! You MUST eat (small meals) during the day or your metabolism gets jacked up.

Started low carb Sunday. I'm a hiccup monster the last two days now...is there a relation? I've googled and can't seem to find one.Sober up in addition to the low carb. :yay:

:nono: Bad Larry! You MUST eat (small meals) during the day or your metabolism gets jacked up.

Working on it. It's weird adjusting to absent of appetite.

I eat too many carbs and it triggers eating binges, so i have to stick to the low carb lifestyle. I'm better off without all that sugar and starch.. that stuff messes me up, gastro-wise.

Thank you both. I have been keeping a log of what i eat and the carbs. I went back and redid them. Ya i could of ate a little bit more the past two days...lol! I just need good tasting bread. I hate eating eggs with out a piece of toast.

Arnold has very good tasting 100% whole wheat. (wheat is just my preference - they have other very good breads, too.) :yay: Another one, I think is called Nature's Own. I usually buy that, as it is cheaper and tastes very good as well. These loaves all for around $2.50 - $3.50 a loaf. Walmart is least expensive, usually. Generally, those loaves have fewer slices, than your "cheapie" loaves of bread. Keep an eye on the serving size. 1 slice is pretty large compared to the cheapie loaves. But it's better for you. I won't eat cheapie bread anymore. Blech!

I eat 3 egg whites and a slice of bread every day for my breakfast. There are some who say there's not that much cholesterol in the yolks after all. That's fine, and I don't have to watch my cholesterol anyway. I have eaten low carb for years and I figure, why eat all the calories in the yolks when 3 egg whites are just as filling and way less calories. And high protein. :shrug:

Working on it. It's weird adjusting to absent of appetite.

You really have to make yourself eat. I'm famous for doing the same thing so I should not advise anyone on this- as a matter of fact, I got out of bed to have a few nuts just now. I've been on South Beach for awhile and I when I low carb it (and stay busy), I rarely ever get hungry.

I have lost 5 pounds in a week and a half! :yahoo: I have lost some of the bloat feeling i always get one when i eat. I did have a slip up and ate some fried crab wontons but it made my stomach hurt after the 3rd one so i stopped.

Arnold has very good tasting 100% whole wheat. (wheat is just my preference - they have other very good breads, too.) :yay: Another one, I think is called Nature's Own. I usually buy that, as it is cheaper and tastes very good as well. These loaves all for around $2.50 - $3.50 a loaf. Walmart is least expensive, usually. Generally, those loaves have fewer slices, than your "cheapie" loaves of bread. Keep an eye on the serving size. 1 slice is pretty large compared to the cheapie loaves. But it's better for you. I won't eat cheapie bread anymore. Blech!

I eat 3 egg whites and a slice of bread every day for my breakfast. There are some who say there's not that much cholesterol in the yolks after all. That's fine, and I don't have to watch my cholesterol anyway. I have eaten low carb for years and I figure, why eat all the calories in the yolks when 3 egg whites are just as filling and way less calories. And high protein. :shrug:

I love Natures own bread. I eat only 1 slice and 2 eggs with the yolk. I hate the white part...lol! I am going to start using only 1 yolk, then go down to none. Its a process...lol! Im not a morning breakfast person but i have notice that for the pasy week and a half i have more engery. The first days i got really sleepy but not anymore.

I love Natures own bread. I eat only 1 slice and 2 eggs with the yolk. I hate the white part...lol! I am going to start using only 1 yolk, then go down to none. Its a process...lol! Im not a morning breakfast person but i have notice that for the pasy week and a half i have more engery. The first days i got really sleepy but not anymore.

:yay: At first, I was the same way. Now I'm really used to it and don't miss the yolk part at all. I use the Smart Balance margarine and it is very tasty so it's just normal to eat it that way now.

I recently went to a new job where there are a LOT of people. MOST of them eat, eat, eat at their lunch time - which may be different than mine, so there is always food coming in and/or being heated up in the micro. :lol: :jameo:

I was a stay at home mom for many years, then I worked for 5 years in a very small office so I've had to get used to all the food offerings available ALL day long. It's hard to resist sometimes! We have a luncheon on the last Friday of each month, and on the first one, I took some of this & some of that - thinking I just wouldn't eat dinner later. OMG, I could barely function the rest of the day. It was the worst feeling to eat that much food during the day. Now, I take the teeniest portions of the high protein, lowest carb foods I can. I usually offer to bring salad if no one else does - that way I can at least load up on salad.

You gotta eat breakfast folks period, end of discussion. 5-6 small meals a day and things like a handful of almonds or a 90 calorie Special K bar as your snacks.

Soccer mom- Try 1 whole egg and 1 white as your breakfast egg selection, and you can use your Phase I from P90X to help with the diet, there is a ton of low/no carb selections in there.

Oh, and if you're cheating, you aren't succeeding.

I am trying the low carb diet. My Doc said i am IR so i need to watch my carb and sugar intake. I am a little confused about the net carbs and total carbs. On different websites of low carb products it will show a product having a net carb of 2 but as i read more the total carb was like 14. Doesn't seem low carb to me. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks!

my doctor told me the same thing, then after i told her that i couldnt understand labels and didnt have the patience for all that she said dont eat over 50 mg of carbs per meal. thats what i did and i have lost 10 pounds and my sugar is good! go for it and good luck, it makes you feel wonderful about everything when the results start coming in! i am happy as a clam now, keep us posted.

The other bread I was thinking of was Nature's Pride. Wally's carries it.

I think the lowest carb bread is Eziekiel bread, but after a while you don't even miss the bread...

I would recommend reading "Protein Power" by Dr Michael Eades, he also has an online forum,

I am down 103 lbs, from size 24 to 12

I agree you really do need breakfast, I do a protein shake everyday for breakfast, I was using GNC protein powder but switched off to the atkin's single serve drinks in the blender with ice.

Then take a collection of snacks to work-- celery, cheese, nuts.

The thing that has kept me on track the most is packing my lunch in the evening.. and having the shake ready to go in the morning.

to break it down to simple terms-- you eat meat, green veggies and cheese.

limit your fruit intake to berries-- and follow a diabetic diet.

also exercise!

I have done the low carb thing for over 2 years. I am a triathlete ( although smaller ones than the Ironman !) bread...I eat Pepperage Farms low carb (5 carbs a slice) slices are small but you get a bread fix. One slice a day .Noodles....try spagehtti squash...and use a grader and make noodles out of zuccini(for lazagna)....Sugar free cool whip with grapes or blue berries is yummy. "low carb" bars ect....that taste like chocolate...well they use a product called malintol.....that will cause gas or a quick run to the bathroom...so use is small quantities. Oh and lets not forget for french fries....Butternut squash....slice like fries ..sprinkle with olive oil,bake for 20 mins...YUMMY..you can also sprinkle with old bay .cut out the sugars and soon you will no longer crave them,watch artificial sugars..all but splenda still effect your blood sugar. Dite Rite cola is splenda....and my favorite thing is Sugar Free(splenda) Hills Brothers Cappucchino
Good Luck and stick with it !!

I'm going to make tacos for the Ravens game today. Instead of a soft or hard tortilla , i am going to melt cheese into a round shape. Then try to form it into a shell. I read it somewhere online to do that. If that doesn't work i have small soft ones that our 10 carbs. Ill just eat two and a salad.

my doctor told me the same thing, then after i told her that i couldnt understand labels and didnt have the patience for all that she said dont eat over 50 mg of carbs per meal. thats what i did and i have lost 10 pounds and my sugar is good! go for it and good luck, it makes you feel wonderful about everything when the results start coming in! i am happy as a clam now, keep us posted.You mean 50 grams of carbs?

50 per day

I'm going to make tacos for the Ravens game today. Instead of a soft or hard tortilla , i am going to melt cheese into a round shape. Then try to form it into a shell. I read it somewhere online to do that. If that doesn't work i have small soft ones that our 10 carbs. Ill just eat two and a salad.

When I was doing atkins, I used to make melted cheese tortillas a lot, in place of a real tortilla. They were awesome to eat steak ums on.

When I was doing atkins, I used to make melted cheese tortillas a lot, in place of a real tortilla. They were awesome to eat steak ums on.

Steak Ums ...:drool:

Steak Ums ...:drool:

A diet of melted cheese and Steak Ums... yeah... that's gotta be healthy for ya...:lol:

A diet of melted cheese and Steak Ums... yeah... that's gotta be healthy for ya...:lol:

Portion control...lol!

If you're looking for good no/low carb recipes, check out the South Beach Diet cookbooks, particularly the Quick and Easy one (it's the yellow one, and most of the recipes take less than 30 minutes). It's hands down the best cookbook I've ever used. The meals are so flavorful, easy and even the 8 year old likes them. :lol:

A diet of melted cheese and Steak Ums... yeah... that's gotta be healthy for ya...:lol:

I know, it sounds awful. One thing I loved about Atkins is you could eat crap like this and still lose weight.

If you're looking for good no/low carb recipes, check out the South Beach Diet cookbooks, particularly the Quick and Easy one (it's the yellow one, and most of the recipes take less than 30 minutes). It's hands down the best cookbook I've ever used. The meals are so flavorful, easy and even the 8 year old likes them. :lol:

:yeahthat:

200 easy solutions for everyday meals

I have been trying things I have never eaten before... and it puts flavor in your day instead of eating meat, cheese and eggs all the time.

It is also recommended by my doctor.

:yeahthat:

200 easy solutions for everyday meals

I have been trying things I have never eaten before... and it puts flavor in your day instead of eating meat, cheese and eggs.

I will try it!

I know, it sounds awful. One thing I loved about Atkins is you could eat crap like this, clog your arteries and still lose weight.

:fixt:

I know, it sounds awful. One thing I loved about Atkins is you could eat crap like this and still lose weight.

I was a strict low-carb follower for years but as soon as I went off of it, the weight came back... Personally, I'd rather do the "South Beach" diet. I eat all the same things I had on Adkins but have other choices and don't get so bored. It is also better for you. The Adkins diet is NOT anything you should do long-term.

I just wish we had a whole foods store locally... like they do in Annapolis.

:yeahthat:

200 easy solutions for everyday meals

I have been trying things I have never eaten before... and it puts flavor in your day instead of eating meat, cheese and eggs all the time.

It is also recommended by my doctor.
We had the pesto chicken last week (foodgasms :lol:) and tonight we had the goat cheese and spinach stuffed chicken with cannellini bean salad and sauteed zucchini. Some of it might be no-brainer stuff, but I grew up in a meat and potatoes house so the whole Mediterranean style of eating that South Beach pushes was new to me. We're not doing South Beach 100% because I doubt I could give up sugar and carbs for 2 weeks, but most of our dinners are that Mediterranean style.

Oh, and their recipe for artichoke dip is really good. I made it at Thanksgiving and my mom flipped over it. She's made it 3 times since then. :lol:

:fixt:
Right? :lol: Throwing up after meals will make you lose weight too. Doesn't mean it's a good idea. :lol:

I don't do Atkins anymore. I did it for about 6 months probably back during the Atkins craze and then got bored with it.

I do something else now that works and is healthy.

I get frustrated because people don't actually read the Atkins book...they just "hear" someone say to eat bacon and eggs and they do it, get frustrated, and stop. It isn't bacon and eggs all the time. Atkins is pretty similar to south beach..in that carbs are not forbidden...and good healthy whole foods are encouraged. Lean meats and lots of veggies. That is what any healthy diet should push anyway. Only Atkins isn't afraid of fat which is very healthy for your skin, nails, and brain. The 20 grams of carbs phase is only sup to last 2 weeks..then it gradually rises until you find a good amount of carbs to continue weight loss, or once you achieve your goal weight...to keep your weight steady. Most adults end up with a good 100-200 grams byt he time they are sustaining their weight loss. Which is perfectly healthy and doable. Athletes and body builders swear by ketogenic diets, though most cycle through them...and Atkins is just a good healthy approach to eating, which is helped by a good period of rapid weight loss to motivate.

Well into week two of lo carb and the energy level is great. The post carb coma is not missed, at all, and the cravings are manageable. For instance, took daughter #3 to breakfast this AM to Bob Evens and had an omelet with all the meats and cheese and veggies, told the waitress no bread, forgot to tell her no taters and there they sat while I ate the rest.

I wanted to eat them potatoes but, it was not horrible and I did have about two forkfuls of them, if that. So, 45 minutes later, I don't lament not having them, at all. Energy level is great, feel better for having not eaten them both physically and mentally.

It's all good! :yahoo:

And lost 6-7 pounds so far.

Now, one thing I have noticed is that I don't sleep as soundly. The carb coma used to take care of that. Interesting.

Now, one thing I have noticed is that I don't sleep as soundly. The carb coma used to take care of that. Interesting.

That is interesting, because I sleep better when I lo carb.

That is interesting, because I sleep better when I lo carb.

Huh.

Allow me to clarify. I sleep well. I just don't sleep as deeply or as long. I think it's the energy thing. I'll get up at 3:30 and work for awhile. And I do feel better when I get up now.

On carbs, I'd be in a coma and be a wreck for 15 min every AM.

The real problem is I find now that my mind is more active. Maybe that's the thing with me? If there is anything to consider/worry about etc, my mind is RACING and that disturbs my sleep. However, when I do get to sleep, I sleep well and am rested in the morning.

Does that make any sense? :buddies:

Huh.

Allow me to clarify. I sleep well. I just don't sleep as deeply or as long. I think it's the energy thing. I'll get up at 3:30 and work for awhile. And I do feel better when I get up now.

On carbs, I'd be in a coma and be a wreck for 15 min every AM.

The real problem is I find now that my mind is more active. Maybe that's the thing with me? If there is anything to consider/worry about etc, my mind is RACING and that disturbs my sleep. However, when I do get to sleep, I sleep well and am rested in the morning.

Does that make any sense? :buddies:

Nope. Doesn't make sense to me. Not sleeping long or deep does not sound like sleeping well, but if it's good enough for you, then it's good enough for you.

When I carb, I toss and turn for quite a while before I can fall asleep, then wake several times during the night. When I lo carb, I fall asleep in about 5 minutes and may get up once during the night. If I don't drink too much beverage in the evening, I'll sleep through without waking up, usually waking just before the alarm sounds.

Nope.

:lol:


Ok, well, at least I was clear. :lol:

Well into week two of lo carb and the energy level is great. The post carb coma is not missed, at all, and the cravings are manageable. For instance, took daughter #3 to breakfast this AM to Bob Evens and had an omelet with all the meats and cheese and veggies, told the waitress no bread, forgot to tell her no taters and there they sat while I ate the rest.

I wanted to eat them potatoes but, it was not horrible and I did have about two forkfuls of them, if that. So, 45 minutes later, I don't lament not having them, at all. Energy level is great, feel better for having not eaten them both physically and mentally.

It's all good! :yahoo:

And lost 6-7 pounds so far.

Now, one thing I have noticed is that I don't sleep as soundly. The carb coma used to take care of that. Interesting.

Good job!

Has anyone heard about any physician around here doing the Atkins diet along with the HCG injections?

OK, I set out yesterday to drink beer all afternoon watching football. I iced up a case of Shiner, had tortilla chips, salsa, meats, cheeses, etc and...

...when beer drinking time came around, I simply had NO interest. Not even a little. :tap:

Now, I've had two beers on two occasions, both out, drafts, since I started this three weeks ago and enjoyed them but did notice that 2 was good. I mentioned this earlier. I had a bunch of beer the other night out to dinner with my dd daughter home from school and had a few more when we got home and thoroughly enjoyed so, it's not like I've lost my taste for beer but, I have noticed that, day in, day out, just not interested and, now this. It's borderline un American.

:jameo:

Add to that that, no jokes, here, my mind feels clearer and I feel calmer, way less highs and lows. I more now feel good all the time.

Varia and I were discussing carbs from the context of narcotic effect and, for sure, there are highs and crashes from them but, are the negatives of carbs, (too many carbs and bad ones, as per my old diet) even deeper?

I'm just experiencing an improvement in quality of life through a simple, but large, diet change that is not only seeing me lose weight and feel better but, is effortless. It seems to be promoting itself, self supporting.

:shrug:

:yahoo:

OK, I set out yesterday to drink beer all afternoon watching football. I iced up a case of Shiner, had tortilla chips, salsa, meats, cheeses, etc and...

...when beer drinking time came around, I simply had NO interest. Not even a little. :tap:

Now, I've had two beers on two occasions, both out, drafts, since I started this three weeks ago and enjoyed them but did notice that 2 was good. I mentioned this earlier. I had a bunch of beer the other night out to dinner with my dd daughter home from school and had a few more when we got home and thoroughly enjoyed so, it's not like I've lost my taste for beer but, I have noticed that, day in, day out, just not interested and, now this. It's borderline un American.

:jameo:

Add to that that, no jokes, here, my mind feels clearer and I feel calmer, way less highs and lows. I more now feel good all the time.

Varia and I were discussing carbs from the context of narcotic effect and, for sure, there are highs and crashes from them but, are the negatives of carbs, (too many carbs and bad ones, as per my old diet) even deeper?

I'm just experiencing an improvement in quality of life through a simple, but large, diet change that is not only seeing me lose weight and feel better but, is effortless. It seems to be promoting itself, self supporting.

:shrug:

:yahoo:

Personally, it's the type of carbs......Training for 4-6 hours a day 5-6 days a week, it's impossible to not have them. 90% of my carbs come from complex carbs... Vegetable and Sweet Potatoes.....after lifting and during training I get a Gatorade in to stunt cortisol production, which breaks down muscle...and gives me something in the tank to keep going....

When I have my weekly cheat meal, I can def feel the instant high and then the crappy crash.....I used to have the cheat meal to keep my sanity....but now it's almost like a reminder of how crappy high fat and simple carbs make me feel....

I do however, still enjoy eating next to raw steaks with my barehands....it's good for the test levels and makes me feel like a caveman:killingme

Personally, it's the type of carbs......Training for 4-6 hours a day 5-6 days a week, it's impossible to not have them. 90% of my carbs come from complex carbs... Vegetable and Sweet Potatoes.....after lifting and during training I get a Gatorade in to stunt cortisol production, which breaks down muscle...and gives me something in the tank to keep going....

When I have my weekly cheat meal, I can def feel the instant high and then the crappy crash.....I used to have the cheat meal to keep my sanity....but now it's almost like a reminder of how crappy high fat and simple carbs make me feel....

I do however, still enjoy eating next to raw steaks with my barehands....it's good for the test levels and makes me feel like a caveman:killingme

Yeah, I always like steak but, of late, man... :drool:

Here's a training song for you;

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LMAO I have a ribeye in the fridge that will go perfectly with this...

OK, I set out yesterday to drink beer all afternoon watching football. I iced up a case of Shiner, had tortilla chips, salsa, meats, cheeses, etc and...

...when beer drinking time came around, I simply had NO interest. Not even a little. :tap:

Now, I've had two beers on two occasions, both out, drafts, since I started this three weeks ago and enjoyed them but did notice that 2 was good. I mentioned this earlier. I had a bunch of beer the other night out to dinner with my dd daughter home from school and had a few more when we got home and thoroughly enjoyed so, it's not like I've lost my taste for beer but, I have noticed that, day in, day out, just not interested and, now this. It's borderline un American.

:jameo:

Add to that that, no jokes, here, my mind feels clearer and I feel calmer, way less highs and lows. I more now feel good all the time.

Varia and I were discussing carbs from the context of narcotic effect and, for sure, there are highs and crashes from them but, are the negatives of carbs, (too many carbs and bad ones, as per my old diet) even deeper?

I'm just experiencing an improvement in quality of life through a simple, but large, diet change that is not only seeing me lose weight and feel better but, is effortless. It seems to be promoting itself, self supporting.

:shrug:

:yahoo:


I can relate to this. I started doing low carb - 10-1/2 years ago. I wasn't crazy strict. It was just a matter of following a little of this and a little of that information I got from reading stuff online. I also quit smoking at that same time - and began the exercising on a regular basis. I started feeling good right away - so it could have been going low carb or a combination of all three of those.

Since I had the Things, and they were still early bird risers and I was the one who always had to get up with them, I didn't really do a lot of drinking anyway. Who wants to get up and face kids with a hangover?! But I also found that when I got together with family or friends, that I didn't WANT to drink very much. I am still like that. I rarely drink here - except for a glass or 2 of wine once in a while. But I do enjoy drinking socially, and except for one throwdown at a party (once in 10 years!)where I got really toasted, I tend not to drink all that much at all.

I lost another 3 pounds. That's 9 so far. The bloat feeling is gone! Now here comes the hard part. The first 10 easy always easy. That's basically just water.

For the month of January I lost a total of 14 pounds! from 178 to 164.

For the month of January I lost a total of 14 pounds! from 178 to 164.

Congratulations. :yahoo:

For the month of January I lost a total of 14 pounds! from 178 to 164.

Awesome! :clap:

Thanks everyone! I feel great. Just taught a friend how to cook some spicy shrimp. She is not good at cooking. It was fun and healthy. :yahoo:

I am having a horrible carb jones.

:jameo:

I want cookies. I want Meadows custard.

:dye:

For the month of January I lost a total of 14 pounds! from 178 to 164.

:yay:

For the month of January I lost a total of 14 pounds! from 178 to 164.



:high5: That's awesome, good for you!

20 pounds from January 1 as of today. :yahoo:

I've worked carbs back in a bit more freely and have a total bender once in awhile including last Sunday when the Evil Girl Scout Monster forced THREE BOXES on me including two Samoas and a new berry something they have that is pretty good. Felt like HELL Monday. :lol:

But, right back to the meats and eggs and cheeses most of the week, a little bread, some tortillas and, man, it keeps working off, slow and steady.

Out for beer and pizza with pals to celebrate. :lol:


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I have been trying a low carb diet with exercise also . Working pretty well so far . My only problem is I work 3pm to 11pm and usually stay awake to 1 am after getting home at 12 . Between 12 am & 1am i get the "munches" and it's hard to resist the fridge !

I haven't read through all the posts, so sorry if I'm repeating.

A few years ago I saw a diet advertised on one of those magazines in the checkout line. It promised more energy, etc. It turned out to be Wendy Chant's Crack the Fat Loss Code. It's a low carb Way of Eating. She's got another book called Conquer the Fat Loss Code as well that accelerates and incorporates exercise. (her first book actually tells you not to change your energy level too much).

It's all about resetting your metabolism and learning how to eat low carb for life. I agree with Larry - the carb craving went away pretty quick. (You are limited to 20 carbs TOTAL each day for the first 7 days) and when my authorized cheat day came along, there was nothing I really "wanted". It's the best I've felt in years - and I realized a few weeks in that I couldnt remember the last time I needed Tums.

Low carb definitely works. Learning when to eat carbs (early in the day) was key for me. After 7 days of watching what I ate, the diet got very easy to follow and truly does lend itself to being a way of eating rather than a diet. :)

20 pounds from January 1 as of today. :yahoo:

I've worked carbs back in a bit more freely and have a total bender once in awhile including last Sunday when the Evil Girl Scout Monster forced THREE BOXES on me including two Samoas and a new berry something they have that is pretty good. Felt like HELL Monday. :lol:

But, right back to the meats and eggs and cheeses most of the week, a little bread, some tortillas and, man, it keeps working off, slow and steady.

Out for beer and pizza with pals to celebrate. :lol:


:dye:

So, you have met this girl also...

So, you have met this girl also...

:killingme