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PsyOps
01-26-2011, 05:13 PM
Hollywood; THE bastion of enlightened people, of tolerance, of progressive thinking. Always telling us how to live, that we are bigots, racists, and homophobes and that THEY carry the torch for inclusivity and open-mindedness.

:whistle:

Cover story: Where's the diversity at the Oscars? - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/26/diversity.academy.awards/index.html)

This year there was a decided dearth of diversity in the Oscar nominations. There are no women or people of color among the director nominees, and the acting nominees are all white. Javier Bardem, who is up for best actor for his role in "Biutiful,' is a Spaniard and therefore European.

Which raises the question: Why in an era of ever increasing diversity among movie audiences is that not being reflected among the nominees for Hollywood's most prestigious award? Where are the diverse faces both in front of and behind the cameras?

ImnoMensa
01-26-2011, 06:40 PM
Hollywood; THE bastion of enlightened people, of tolerance, of progressive thinking. Always telling us how to live, that we are bigots, racists, and homophobes and that THEY carry the torch for inclusivity and open-mindedness.

:whistle:

Cover story: Where's the diversity at the Oscars? - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/26/diversity.academy.awards/index.html)



They need to lower their standards and place quota's on the Oscar.

It works for the Government and Pepco.

terbear1225
01-26-2011, 07:13 PM
Hollywood; THE bastion of enlightened people, of tolerance, of progressive thinking. Always telling us how to live, that we are bigots, racists, and homophobes and that THEY carry the torch for inclusivity and open-mindedness.

:whistle:

Cover story: Where's the diversity at the Oscars? - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/26/diversity.academy.awards/index.html)



don't watch the oscars and rarely have time to see recent releases in the theater so I'm asking out of ignorance of the facts, not to start an argument but is there someone that was snubbed in some way? were there non- caucasian actors/ directors that should have been nominated that weren't?

mistyweather02
01-26-2011, 07:19 PM
They need to lower their standards and place quota's on the Oscar.

It works for the Government and Pepco.



It must suck to be you - an old wrinkled up racist with one foot in the grave and the other inching ever closer as the last of your white male bastion of power slips from your gnarled arthritic hands.

Now go put on your white hood and dance around a burning cross old fool.:lalala: LOL!

hvp05
01-26-2011, 07:22 PM
It must suck to be you - an old wrinkled up racist with one foot in the grave and the other inching ever closer as the last of your white male bastion of power slips from your gnarled arthritic hands.You must be a fast learner.


And so levelheaded, too. :yay:

BOP
01-26-2011, 08:39 PM
They need to lower their standards and give everyone an Oscar.

It works for the Government education system.

:morebetter:

BOP
01-26-2011, 08:40 PM
It must suck to be you - an old wrinkled up racist with one foot in the grave and the other inching ever closer as the last of your white male bastion of power slips from your gnarled arthritic hands.

Now go put on your white hood and dance around a burning cross old fool.:lalala: LOL!

You're just a little too salty for someone with only 4 posts to her credit.

So, whose MPD are you, little girl?

:jerry:

BOP
01-26-2011, 08:43 PM
don't watch the oscars and rarely have time to see recent releases in the theater so I'm asking out of ignorance of the facts, not to start an argument but is there someone that was snubbed in some way? were there non- caucasian actors/ directors that should have been nominated that weren't?

Unlike mistyheaded, who didn't actually read the link the OP put up, I did.

According to CNN, not ImnoMensa, there should have been more Oscars for people of color, whether or not they genuinely merited one or not. Otherwise, the Academy is just racist!

Git it, misty?

Lenny
01-26-2011, 10:28 PM
Hollywood; THE bastion of enlightened people, of tolerance, of progressive thinking. Always telling us how to live, that we are bigots, racists, and homophobes and that THEY carry the torch for inclusivity and open-mindedness.


This is the year of the queer Oscars. Look at the Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Tran/Ped/Zoo themes over the past couple years including this year's The Kids Are All Right. Black Swan had a definite LGPTPZ slant throughout and that girl Viking in How to Train Your Dragon was really butch. Don't get me started on the Documentary nominees, especially Waste Land. The Greeks weigh in with Dogtooth with a little sister-on-sister action (according to the IMDB.com site) so we see it's a global queer Oscar offering. No room for racial minorities.

itsbob
01-27-2011, 04:03 AM
It must suck to be you - an old wrinkled up racist with one foot in the grave and the other inching ever closer as the last of your white male bastion of power slips from your gnarled arthritic hands.

Now go put on your white hood and dance around a burning cross old fool.:lalala: LOL!

How many white people got BET awards this year, or Ebony Awards.. ?

mistyweather02
01-27-2011, 06:17 AM
How many white people will be nominated or receive BET or Ebony Awards.. ?

Apparently reading comprehension is neither your nor BOPS's forte. My comment was not in reference to the article regarding the dearth of people of color nominated for an Oscar, my response was in reference to Imnomensa's reply regarding lowering standards/qualifications etc. Therefore I have no interest in finding out if any white people will be nominated or receive BET or Ebony awards. That's a red herring.

Please stay on track when responding to my comments. I don't debate with unarmed folks and I TRY not to argue with fools. It appears that I've just broken two of my rules this morning.

You know what I detest more than taxes?, folks like you and the other two stooges who rant and rave that raciscm no longer exists yet they populate these forums and spew their racist comments while hiding behind a keyboard. The fact that you guys didn't live up to your potential and your life sucks like the huge black holes in space is no reason to put down entire races. Dude, you're white, all you had to do was show-up!

I get that there are still folks who believe as you, BOP and Imnomensa that every person of color who has a successful life and does not kowtow to you (I bellieve you say, that boy/gal don't know his/her place) MUST be the result of quotas and reverse discrimination. If that makes you feel better about your sorry lot in life, so be it.

You and your ilk are such a wasted suit of skin; I wish your mothers had swallowed.

Take care, and I hope you have a beautiful day not tainted by any people of color. Then again, that's kind of getting harder and harder to do, isn't it?:killingme

bohman
01-27-2011, 06:35 AM
It must suck to be you - an old wrinkled up racist with one foot in the grave and the other inching ever closer as the last of your white male bastion of power slips from your gnarled arthritic hands.

Now go put on your white hood and dance around a burning cross old fool.:lalala: LOL!

Instead of feeding the trolls, I wish someone had answered a genuine question - see below:

don't watch the oscars and rarely have time to see recent releases in the theater so I'm asking out of ignorance of the facts, not to start an argument but is there someone that was snubbed in some way? were there non- caucasian actors/ directors that should have been nominated that weren't?

I don't get a chance to watch any movies, either, and would be interested in the answer.

Lenny
01-27-2011, 07:26 AM
Some say Halle Berry got overlooked for her performance in Frankie and Alice. Haven't seen it yet so can't form an opinion. But she already has hers. Besides, she's really only half black so the memes wouldn't be happy if she was the only one to get nominated this year.

kwillia
01-27-2011, 07:40 AM
my response was in reference to Imnomensa's reply regarding lowering standards/qualifications etc.
I didn't interpret his comment that lowering standards/qualifications was a result of including minorities. I took his comment as saying it would be wrong to make considerations not on merit and true applicability but rather because of race, religion, etc.

As for the rest of the truly ignorant comments popping up afterwards... I can't speak to those.

chernmax
01-27-2011, 05:40 PM
Hollywood; THE bastion of enlightened people, of tolerance, of progressive thinking. Always telling us how to live, that we are bigots, racists, and homophobes and that THEY carry the torch for inclusivity and open-mindedness.

:whistle:

Cover story: Where's the diversity at the Oscars? - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/26/diversity.academy.awards/index.html)



My question would be, name me any black actor/actress who was in a great movie this year because I'm drawing a total BLANK??? But that's not to say what the idiot buffoon are looking for when they nominate the King's Speech for 12 academy awards and it was one of the least watched movies in America! IMO the academy awards has as much credibility these days as the Nobel Piece Prize. Who gives a sh!T!!!

toppick08
01-27-2011, 05:42 PM
I just ax for tolerance and diversity....:yay:

itsbob
01-27-2011, 06:25 PM
Apparently reading comprehension is neither your nor BOPS's forte. My comment was not in reference to the article regarding the dearth of people of color nominated for an Oscar, my response was in reference to Imnomensa's reply regarding lowering standards/qualifications etc. Therefore I have no interest in finding out if any white people will be nominated or receive BET or Ebony awards. That's a red herring.

Please stay on track when responding to my comments. I don't debate with unarmed folks and I TRY not to argue with fools. It appears that I've just broken two of my rules this morning.

You know what I detest more than taxes?, folks like you and the other two stooges who rant and rave that raciscm no longer exists yet they populate these forums and spew their racist comments while hiding behind a keyboard. The fact that you guys didn't live up to your potential and your life sucks like the huge black holes in space is no reason to put down entire races. Dude, you're white, all you had to do was show-up!

I get that there are still folks who believe as you, BOP and Imnomensa that every person of color who has a successful life and does not kowtow to you (I bellieve you say, that boy/gal don't know his/her place) MUST be the result of quotas and reverse discrimination. If that makes you feel better about your sorry lot in life, so be it.

You and your ilk are such a wasted suit of skin; I wish your mothers had swallowed.

Take care, and I hope you have a beautiful day not tainted by any people of color. Then again, that's kind of getting harder and harder to do, isn't it?:killingme

Yet you offer nobody of more talent than those selected that may be of color.

So what you are suggesting is using affirmative action type tools to make it "More fair".

Affirmative Action, in my eyes, is telling people of color that they aren't as capable, not as smart, and maybe not as good looking as a white person. I think that is MUCH more racist than saying.. You are as capable, you are as smart, and you are as good looking, there is no reason for you NOT to compete on a level playing field. Now go out compete without race bing an issue, and on a level playing field and show us what you can do.

Affirmative Action is the most condescending type of racism, yet entire races of people accept it. Government sponsored racism.. You're black so you're not capable of getting a job, or a house or an Oscar on your own abilities, intelligence or performance so we'll do it for you.

Besides I can't be a racist, I voted for Lollar!!

Gilligan
01-27-2011, 06:43 PM
Take care, and I hope you have a beautiful day not tainted by any people of color. Then again, that's kind of getting harder and harder to do, isn't it?:killingme

I'm a person of color..and yet I understood nothing in what you just posted.

Be a good pal and kindly lead me through it much more slowly, repetitively, and with much more condescension, so I can understand. We 'people of color' do need to stick together, right? Thanks in advance.

Oh..and what truly deserving movies, very specifically, were snubbed this year?

ImnoMensa
01-27-2011, 08:05 PM
It must suck to be you - an old wrinkled up racist with one foot in the grave and the other inching ever closer as the last of your white male bastion of power slips from your gnarled arthritic hands.

Now go put on your white hood and dance around a burning cross old fool.:lalala: LOL!

Insulting me doesnt change the facts. Sweetheart.

Now tell me why Affirmative action exists.
Tell me why University Ervine in California is crying because they served Chicken and Waffles on MLK day.
Tell me why two Black panthers were turned loose by Eric Holder.
Tell me why people get upset because they didnt get an Oscar they didnt deserve, in the eyes of those doing the voting..
Tell me that Quota;s do not exist. even in Annapolis at the Naval Academy.
Prove that quota's and lowered standards do not exist.

Try arguing with facts instead of your own predjudices and accusations .

Gilligan
01-27-2011, 08:41 PM
I get that there are still folks who believe as you, BOP and Imnomensa that every person of color who has a successful life and does not kowtow to you (I bellieve you say, that boy/gal don't know his/her place) MUST be the result of quotas and reverse discrimination. If that makes you feel better about your sorry lot in life, so be it.e

You know what is REALLY weird? I've lived in this county most of my life..rural MD all of my life..and I have managed to somehow avoid completely anyone who is as disgustingly vile a racist as you obviously are.

Guess I need to count myself very lucky, huh?

BOP
01-27-2011, 09:23 PM
Apparently reading comprehension is neither your nor BOPS's forte. My comment was not in reference to the article regarding the dearth of people of color nominated for an Oscar, my response was in reference to Imnomensa's reply regarding lowering standards/qualifications etc. Therefore I have no interest in finding out if any white people will be nominated or receive BET or Ebony awards. That's a red herring.

Please stay on track when responding to my comments. I don't debate with unarmed folks and I TRY not to argue with fools. It appears that I've just broken two of my rules this morning.

You know what I detest more than taxes?, folks like you and the other two stooges who rant and rave that raciscm no longer exists yet they populate these forums and spew their racist comments while hiding behind a keyboard. The fact that you guys didn't live up to your potential and your life sucks like the huge black holes in space is no reason to put down entire races. Dude, you're white, all you had to do was show-up!

I get that there are still folks who believe as you, BOP and Imnomensa that every person of color who has a successful life and does not kowtow to you (I bellieve you say, that boy/gal don't know his/her place) MUST be the result of quotas and reverse discrimination. If that makes you feel better about your sorry lot in life, so be it.

You and your ilk are such a wasted suit of skin; I wish your mothers had swallowed.

Take care, and I hope you have a beautiful day not tainted by any people of color. Then again, that's kind of getting harder and harder to do, isn't it?:killingme

No, craphead, it is your reading comprehension that needs an overhaul. You're the bigot here, seeing racism and prejudice in every comment where there is none.

BOP
01-27-2011, 09:25 PM
I just ax for tolerance and diversity....:yay:

And a black friend?

toppick08
01-28-2011, 05:39 AM
And a black friend?

I got tons...ty.

PsyOps
01-28-2011, 06:23 AM
My question would be, name me any black actor/actress who was in a great movie this year because I'm drawing a total BLANK??? But that's not to say what the idiot buffoon are looking for when they nominate the King's Speech for 12 academy awards and it was one of the least watched movies in America! IMO the academy awards has as much credibility these days as the Nobel Piece Prize. Who gives a sh!T!!!

I heard from a popular radio talk head that THAT is what the larger problem is; no big rolls were set up for ‘people of color’. The entire movie season seems to have an exclusive tone to it.

I get the Oscars are a ‘who gives a ***’ event, but the point is this cult that we call Hollywood is the center of liberalism. They are on the cutting edge of progressive thinking. They steer the winds of tolerance and acceptance. They preach this to us in their commentary, movies, and commercials. And they influence a God-awful lot of people. All these things they preach about; telling the rest of us to follow in line. They are the hypocrites we always knew they were. I hope this would convince folks the pay very little attention to them.

PsyOps
01-28-2011, 06:30 AM
Apparently reading comprehension is neither your nor BOPS's forte. My comment was not in reference to the article regarding the dearth of people of color nominated for an Oscar, my response was in reference to Imnomensa's reply regarding lowering standards/qualifications etc. Therefore I have no interest in finding out if any white people will be nominated or receive BET or Ebony awards. That's a red herring.

Please stay on track when responding to my comments. I don't debate with unarmed folks and I TRY not to argue with fools. It appears that I've just broken two of my rules this morning.

You know what I detest more than taxes?, folks like you and the other two stooges who rant and rave that raciscm no longer exists yet they populate these forums and spew their racist comments while hiding behind a keyboard. The fact that you guys didn't live up to your potential and your life sucks like the huge black holes in space is no reason to put down entire races. Dude, you're white, all you had to do was show-up!

I get that there are still folks who believe as you, BOP and Imnomensa that every person of color who has a successful life and does not kowtow to you (I bellieve you say, that boy/gal don't know his/her place) MUST be the result of quotas and reverse discrimination. If that makes you feel better about your sorry lot in life, so be it.

You and your ilk are such a wasted suit of skin; I wish your mothers had swallowed.

Take care, and I hope you have a beautiful day not tainted by any people of color. Then again, that's kind of getting harder and harder to do, isn't it?:killingme

Wow, a statement chock-full-o-bigotry. :popcorn:

Bann
01-28-2011, 07:12 AM
Yet you offer nobody of more talent than those selected that may be of color.

So what you are suggesting is using affirmative action type tools to make it "More fair".

Affirmative Action, in my eyes, is telling people of color that they aren't as capable, not as smart, and maybe not as good looking as a white person. I think that is MUCH more racist than saying.. You are as capable, you are as smart, and you are as good looking, there is no reason for you NOT to compete on a level playing field. Now go out compete without race bing an issue, and on a level playing field and show us what you can do.

Affirmative Action is the most condescending type of racism, yet entire races of people accept it. Government sponsored racism.. You're black so you're not capable of getting a job, or a house or an Oscar on your own abilities, intelligence or performance so we'll do it for you.

Besides I can't be a racist, I voted for Lollar!!

Money quote! :killingme:

And ITA with the rest of your post, too. :yay:

ImnoMensa
01-28-2011, 07:48 AM
Dude, you're white, all you had to do was show-up!



One of the problems is that you really believe that.

And you have the temerity to call someone a racist.

Look in the mirror Hon. You have it bad.

Lenny
01-28-2011, 08:47 AM
I heard from a popular radio talk head that THAT is what the larger problem is; no big rolls were set up for ‘people of color’. The entire movie season seems to have an exclusive tone to it.



I would have challenged that contention. Don Cheadle, Denzel and Halle have all been active and have produced some successful movies in 2010. I wouldn't call a movie about a runaway train a winning idea but Denzel did a tolerably good job. Don Cheadle is always good in drama, action or comedy. Halle, well as I said, I haven't seen Frankie and Whoever yet, but I hear she did as great a job as in Monster's Ball. Many A-A actors have gone to T.V. which makes it difficult to also do pictures.

The article's contention deals with absence of recognition of minorities or women by the Academy. I believe that is a factor of having a handful of gold among the slag that Hollywood produces each year.

chernmax
01-28-2011, 08:59 AM
I would have challenged that contention. Don Cheadle, Denzel and Halle have all been active and have produced some successful movies in 2010. I wouldn't call a movie about a runaway train a winning idea but Denzel did a tolerably good job. Don Cheadle is always good in drama, action or comedy. Halle, well as I said, I haven't seen Frankie and Whoever yet, but I hear she did as great a job as in Monster's Ball. Many A-A actors have gone to T.V. which makes it difficult to also do pictures.

The article's contention deals with absence of recognition of minorities or women by the Academy. I believe that is a factor of having a handful of gold among the slag that Hollywood produces each year.

Thanks for jarring my memory, Denzel did a great job in Unstoppable and did a really good job in The Book of Eli!

Lenny
01-28-2011, 09:43 AM
Thanks for jarring my memory, Denzel did a great job in Unstoppable and did a really good job in The Book of Eli!

I'm looking forward to Delroy Lindo's (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005148/) portrayal of Marion Barry (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.foxnews.com/images/370132/0_61_320_Marion_Barry.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355682,00.html&h=240&w=320&sz=42&tbnid=q_4DDgf8h_4p8M:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarion%2Bbarry&zoom=1&q=marion+barry&hl=en&usg=__30JL1E6aglXfEpjUSdTtjllIscg=&sa=X&ei=s9VCTevUA5OcgQeMobWzAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CEUQ9QEwBA) in 'The Chicago Code' this season on T.V.

chernmax
01-28-2011, 10:28 AM
I'm looking forward to Delroy Lindo's (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005148/) portrayal of Marion Barry (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.foxnews.com/images/370132/0_61_320_Marion_Barry.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355682,00.html&h=240&w=320&sz=42&tbnid=q_4DDgf8h_4p8M:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarion%2Bbarry&zoom=1&q=marion+barry&hl=en&usg=__30JL1E6aglXfEpjUSdTtjllIscg=&sa=X&ei=s9VCTevUA5OcgQeMobWzAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CEUQ9QEwBA) in 'The Chicago Code' this season on T.V.

He should be great, just needs to brush up on his Crack Head skills... :coffee:

Monello
01-28-2011, 01:11 PM
They need to lower their standards on the Oscar.
Like they are now doing with the Nobel Peace Prize.

ImnoMensa
01-28-2011, 01:14 PM
Like they are now doing with the Nobel Peace Prize.

They have sure turned that into a joke.

Toxick
01-28-2011, 01:28 PM
Hollywood; THE bastion of enlightened people, of tolerance, of progressive thinking. Always telling us how to live, that we are bigots, racists, and homophobes and that THEY carry the torch for inclusivity and open-mindedness.



It's not their fault.

All the coloreds are in politics (check out the Senate, in particular) or playing sports instead of doing make-believe in the movies.

BOP
01-28-2011, 08:03 PM
I got tons...ty.

No worries. I remember a thread, but couldnt' remember who was looking. I don't have enough black ancestry to qualify...but then my whole genetic background is like that...heinz 57, I guess.

:buddies:

BOP
01-28-2011, 08:05 PM
One of the problems is that you really believe that.

And you have the temerity to call someone a racist.

Look in the mirror Hon. You have it bad.

This thread doesn't seem to be going the way that mistyeyed thought it was going to go.

BOP
01-28-2011, 08:06 PM
Like they are now doing with the Nobel Peace Prize.

Oooo! Snap!

:buddies:

Gilligan
01-29-2011, 09:03 AM
This thread doesn't seem to be going the way that mistyeyed thought it was going to go.

She vanished...*poof* Go figure.:coffee:

twinoaks207
01-29-2011, 09:57 AM
This quote, from your original source article, says it all...


"Movies are a business," Yu said. "Consequently studios are as risk-averse as it gets, and they want to go with something tried and true."

It is, at the end of the day, a business, out to make money. When there is a huge demand (or someone manages to break through with blockbuster type like Star Wars) then they will all jump on the bandwagon to duplicate the successful format. Until then, the money folks make them play it safe.

If you are looking for diversity, you'll have to look at independent studios. The Oscars aren't going to show you that. Those awards are voted on by the members of the Academy -- the very people that show up in the awards, and whose jobs depend upon their choices. It's going to take something pretty powerful in a movie to make so many of them go against the status quo in an industry that pretty much relies on playing it safe. Quite frankly -- we just didn't have any "powerful" choices out this year.

The fact that so many movie entertainers use their wealth and public visibility to espouse certain causes is totally different issue. We always have a choice whether or not to pay attention to them.


On a side note... Denzel Washington :drool: -- I'll watch anything with him in it -- great actor & totally drool-worthy, even for older people like me! :lol:

LC_Sulla
01-29-2011, 11:24 AM
On a side note... Denzel Washington :drool: -- I'll watch anything with him in it -- great actor & totally drool-worthy, even for older people like me! :lol:

I think Denzel can be great. One of my favorite movies is Fallen.

As far as Unstoppable goes, I think this spoof sums it up....

AF0DdsL_ILQ

chernmax
01-29-2011, 10:24 PM
I think Denzel can be great. One of my favorite movies is Fallen.

As far as Unstoppable goes, I think this spoof sums it up....

AF0DdsL_ILQ

................My Mann :killingme


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