Newt Gingrich confronted over affair - Emily Schultheis - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/50021.html)

"PHILADELPHIA — Newt Gingrich's speech at the University of Pennsylvania Tuesday night quickly took a turn for the dramatic when the first student to question him brought up his admitted extra-marital affair and accused him of being “hypocritical” for espousing moral values.

"You adamantly oppose gay rights... but you've also been married three times and admitted to having an affair with your current wife while you were still married to your second," Isabel Friedman, president of the Penn Democrats, said to Gingrich. "As a successful politician who's considering running for president, who would set the bar for moral conduct and be the voice of the American people, how do you reconcile this hypocritical interpretation of the religious values that you so vigorously defend?"

"In an interview with POLITICO, Gingrich reiterated his support for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's attempts to curb collective bargaining for government workers, and said he has been in touch with Walker, who he campaigned for last year.

"I think Walker's not going to back off an inch, and he's going to win," Gingrich said."

president, who would set the bar for moral conduct and be the voice of the American people,

Ok, I stopped reading at this point. Is there a Democrat in the country who actually believes that, with a straight face?

Ok, I stopped reading at this point. Is there a Democrat in the country who actually believes that, with a straight face?

:killingme:killingme:killingme <------- apparently not.

Yet they have nothing to say about our First Mommy wagging her finger about our eating habits and financial priorities, while snarfing ribs at an overpriced restaurant on her third or fourth fancy vaca in the last year.

Ok, I stopped reading at this point. Is there a Democrat in the country who actually believes that, with a straight face?

Yes, and some republicans and independents too.

As a successful politician who's considering running for president, who would set the bar for moral conduct and be the voice of the American people,....."

how do you reconcile voting for an admitted drug addict?

how do you reconcile voting for an admitted drug addict?

Would you vote for Rush Limbaugh?

Would you vote for Rush Limbaugh?
? Would you vote for Barbara Big Nose? Would you vote for Micky Mouse?

Would you vote for Rush Limbaugh?

For what?

... and did he seek out street drugs or become addicted to prescribed pain killers after surgery?

Would you vote for Rush Limbaugh?

What does Limbaugh have to do with voting? If you had a choice between someone who practically bragged about their use of illegal drugs, or someone who did not do drugs, who would you choose?

Ok, I stopped reading at this point. Is there a Democrat in the country who actually believes that, with a straight face?

:high5:

AND, going into the waaaay back machine to find something, anything, she could use "against" him.

And yet, if Bill Clinton was the speaker, she probably would have been fawning all over him like Monica. :whistle:

:high5:

AND, going into the waaaay back machine to find something, anything, she could use "against" him.

And yet, if Bill Clinton was the speaker, she probably would have been fawning all over him like Monica. :whistle:


So thats what we are calling it these days?

So thats what we are calling it these days?

I was being tactful. :dance:


:biggrin:

:high5:

AND, going into the waaaay back machine to find something, anything, she could use "against" him.

And yet, if Bill Clinton was the speaker, she probably would have been fawning all over him like Monica. :whistle:

Wasn't it sharing a cigar?

Honestly, it does seem incredibly hypocritical to me for any of these politicians to try to play the 'morals' card. Why would anyone care what their stance on marriage would be when they have been married multiple times, had numerous affairs and had babies out of wedlock (though they were married). If we are looking to them for moral guidance - we are all SO screwed.

Clinton, Edwards, Obama, Gingrich....really pick ANY of the current talking heads and they all suck.

For what?

... and did he seek out street drugs or become addicted to prescribed pain killers after surgery?

What does Limbaugh have to do with voting? If you had a choice between someone who practically bragged about their use of illegal drugs, or someone who did not do drugs, who would you choose?

Hi! This is actually a really good topic of discussion. I googled Obama's drug use, and read some exerpts from one of his books that discusses it.

I know there is no chance of this getting through the partisan lenses but.......

Based on what I read, I assert that what Obama did is not that unusual. Now, maybe you didn't use drugs when you were younger, and lots of people don't. Conversely, lots of people do.

Additionally, I'd like to point out that drugs come in many forms, nicotine, caffeine, and those are currently legal, then you have pot, legal some places, not so much in other places. Then you have cocaine, crack, smack, meth, and whatever else exists out there.

I'm from a rural town. When I was younger, I saw tons of underage drinking and smoking (tobacco and pot). I've never seen cocaine or anything like that. Probably a function of geography.

I saw many people use illegal drugs almost daily for many years. Where they addicted? I'm not sure. And most of them just stopped one day. They were probably using drugs out of a sense of boredom more than anything else. But as they got older, got jobs, families, and responsibilites, they just stopped using illegal drugs, but not alcohol or tobacco.

You may recall that a similar issue was raised with President G.W. Bush. Not only his many and documented exploits with alcohol (culminating with a DWI), marijuana, and possibly cocaine but he refuses to answer questions about it.

So, was President Bush and alcoholic? I'd put money on "YES." Did he use marijuana and cocaine? Probably.

But for all the issues I had with President G.W. Bush, using illegal drugs didn't even make the list.

My point: I have no issue with President Obama's past drug use (though he probably still smokes which is legal). Just as I had no issue with President G.W. Bush's past drug use.

:buddies:

Just good to know we have so many liberals that can't stand Bill Clinton and how hypocritical he was because of all his sexual hi-jinx.

Gringrich's affair and multiple marriages are a detractor, and an indication of some character flaw, no doubt about it, but it doesn't rule him out of consideration completely.

Lets keep in mind, he never violated the law or lied to keep those things hidden.

Bill Clinton did, and it wasn't a trivial matter, remember he was charged with obstruction of Justice for lying under oath about a matter very material to the sexual harassment suite brought against him. If Clinton had told the truth under oath, he certainly would have deserved criticism for his actions, but would NOT had deserved impeachment, NOR would impeachment had been brought against him.

GW Bush using Cocaine?, if you've got some evidence present it, lots of people believe Clinton hired shady P.I.'s to intimidate witness's, but no produced any proof, I don't think it even deserves speculation of "I think its true, but I don't hold it against him".

Hi! This is actually a really good topic of discussion. ......

But for all the issues I had with President G.W. Bush, using illegal drugs didn't even make the list.



So basically you are saying "it's not a big deal" so why are you saying it is a "really good topic of discussion"?

I really question anyone that is under sixty that claims to not experimented with drugs and alcohol in their late teens and early twenties and not had more than one sex partner. On the same note, I do not think it is anyone's business no matter if they are a public figure or not.

What is issue is if their experimenting and coming of age taught them anything. Like are they still doing drugs at 40 or their destructive personal habits have damaged others (see John Edwards)

It was common knowledge that the two Presidential candidates in 1940 had mistresses. I don't want a saint as my leader, I want someone based in reality. Doesn't mean you lived it, but it does mean you understand it. I give Bush the credit of at least being able to fly a fighter jet. I doubt Obama could drive a golf cart.

Hi! This is actually a really good topic of discussion. I googled Obama's drug use, and read some exerpts from one of his books that discusses it.

I know there is no chance of this getting through the partisan lenses but.......

Based on what I read, I assert that what Obama did is not that unusual. Now, maybe you didn't use drugs when you were younger, and lots of people don't. Conversely, lots of people do.

Additionally, I'd like to point out that drugs come in many forms, nicotine, caffeine, and those are currently legal, then you have pot, legal some places, not so much in other places. Then you have cocaine, crack, smack, meth, and whatever else exists out there.

I'm from a rural town. When I was younger, I saw tons of underage drinking and smoking (tobacco and pot). I've never seen cocaine or anything like that. Probably a function of geography.

I saw many people use illegal drugs almost daily for many years. Where they addicted? I'm not sure. And most of them just stopped one day. They were probably using drugs out of a sense of boredom more than anything else. But as they got older, got jobs, families, and responsibilites, they just stopped using illegal drugs, but not alcohol or tobacco.

You may recall that a similar issue was raised with President G.W. Bush. Not only his many and documented exploits with alcohol (culminating with a DWI), marijuana, and possibly cocaine but he refuses to answer questions about it.

So, was President Bush and alcoholic? I'd put money on "YES." Did he use marijuana and cocaine? Probably.

But for all the issues I had with President G.W. Bush, using illegal drugs didn't even make the list.

My point: I have no issue with President Obama's past drug use (though he probably still smokes which is legal). Just as I had no issue with President G.W. Bush's past drug use.

:buddies:

Real cute how you're trying to create some kind of moral equivalency between using LEGAL substances and ILLEGAL substances there, buckaroo. :yay: Very charitable of you to claim you didn't have a problem with GW using drugs - when you have NO PROOF that he ever did any!

Everyone knows alcohol, caffeine & nicotine are addictive and are classified as "drugs". :crazy: You can also be addicted to sugar. You can be addicted to chocolate. (which also has sugar and caffeine in it). You can also be addicted to EATING or having sex. :bigwhoop: ALL are perfectly legal!!! (except for driving while impaired or having sex with a minor)

As for GW Bush's DUI - it was in 1976!! Got anything interesting in the last 35 years?! :lmao: Bush acknowledges 1976 DUI charge - CNN (http://articles.cnn.com/2000-11-02/politics/bush.dui_1_arrest-from-news-reports-george-w-bush-kennebunkport-police?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS).

OH, and for FULL DISCLOSURE: don't let the above CNN link fool ya - this story was broken in 2000 by a FOX NEWS affiliate reporter. :faint:


You actually have no basis for your supposition that GW Bush used marijuana and/or cocaine. None whatsoever, except in your petty little mind you want to be able to justify what Obama has admitted to by saying "But Bush did it first".

ALL are perfectly legal!!! (except for driving while impaired or having sex with a minor)

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I'm not sure but I think driving and having sex at the same time is against the law, but I am not sure about that. I guess that would be impaired driving.

:high5:

AND, going into the waaaay back machine to find something, anything, she could use "against" him.

And yet, if Bill Clinton was the speaker, she probably would have been fawning all over him like Monica. :whistle:

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Gingrich should have simply replied, "All the best pols do it. Don't hate." Then gone on to the next question.

Gingrich should have simply replied, "All the best pols do it. Don't hate." Then gone on to the next question.



I do not want another Pol in the White House, who cannot keep it in his pants, or is a drug user ...


Newt is off my list, and never was a consideration for me pulling the leaver in the voting booth ... Great Policy Pundit .... needs to keep to the sidelines ... Obviously cannot keep his mistress's in line, he does not need to be running the country ......

i wonder if Newt is for or against DOMA

i wonder if Newt is for or against DOMA
Interesting I can't find the vote officially (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll316.xml). He neither did not vote, did not vote for, did not vote against, and did not vote "present". Yet, he was Speaker.

We do know Clinton was for it - he signed it into law (didn't even just let it go into law without his signature as he could have - he signed it).

Also interesting is that the Obama administration no longer feels they can support defending the law. The Vice President voted in favor of the law (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=104&session=2&vote=00280), but they can't defend it?

Extra marital affair = No Presidency for you

BUT

Vehicular manslaughter/ leaving the scene of an accident etc. = Senator for life!


Newt's only problem about his affair was that he got caught and if the Dems can forgive a drunken murderer then a guy getting a little strange shouldn't be too much of a reach should it? (Maybe we should ask Bill 'Jesus" Clinton.)

Interesting I can't find the vote officially (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll316.xml). He neither did not vote, did not vote for, did not vote against, and did not vote "present". Yet, he was Speaker.

We do know Clinton was for it - he signed it into law (didn't even just let it go into law without his signature as he could have - he signed it).

Also interesting is that the Obama administration no longer feels they can support defending the law. The Vice President voted in favor of the law (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=104&session=2&vote=00280), but they can't defend it?


if you had read Tilteds post about this recently, its odd. They have stated every chance they get they think its unconstitutional, but in legal briefs, they reiterate that they will defend it.

if you had read Tilteds post about this recently, its odd. They have stated every chance they get they think its unconstitutional, but in legal briefs, they reiterate that they will defend it.

I didn't get that they will "defend" it - quite the opposite. Just that they're still gonna be a part of the lawsuit.

Bill Clinton should have paid Monica Lewinski's dry cleaning bill...

Maybe we should ask Ted Kennedy (never mind), how about John Edwards??? :whistle: