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Beck & Family Harassed During Outdoor Movie Night in NYC Park (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beck-family-accosted-and-harassed-during-outdoor-movie-night-in-nyc-park/)


There are those who love freedom of expression, as long as it’s not conservatives who are doing the expressing. Just ask Glenn Beck. On radio Tuesday, he told the stunning story of how he and his family were harassed during an outdoor movie in New York City’s Bryant Park.

For those unfamiliar with Bryant Park, it hosts weekly showings of classic films during the summer months. Attendees bring blankets and picnic dinners and sprawl out on the park’s great lawn while watching the films on a giant screen.

As Beck explained, he attended Monday night‘s public showing of Alfred Hitchcock’s “The 39 Steps” with his wife and daughter. During the film, he was ridiculed, had someone “kick a cup” of wine on his wife and on his blanket, and even witnessed another person stand up and yell, “We hate conservatives here!”

“These people were some of the most hateful people I have ever seen,” Beck said. “All I wanted to do is go out on a blanket with my family and have dinner in the afternoon sun and sit around Americans, not like-minded Americans, and just watch a movie in the park. And last night at about‑‑ when the movie was just about over, my wife and I got out because it was hostile.”

When Beck left near the end of the movie, the crowd applauded.

“I don’t know what kind of victory you thought you won,” Beck said on radio in response, and later added, “I swear to you I think if I would have suggested, and I almost did, wow, does anybody have a rope, because there’s a tree here, you could just lynch me. And I think there would have been a couple in the crowd that would have.”

That's what so many have come to. Their brain died and the programmed impulses carry on from there.

Critical thinking and reasoning is hard. Being a lemming is just too darned easy and you'll have lots of good company being one.

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There are those who love freedom of expression, as long as it’s not liberals expressing their dislike for glen beck

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So you think harrassing and throwing #### at a family trying to enjoy an evening together counts as "free speech" do you?

So you think harrassing and throwing #### at a family trying to enjoy an evening together counts as "free speech" do you?

I see what beck described as freedom of speech, yes. I dont buy into the whole "kicking a glass of wine on our blanket" beiong equated to "throwing #### at a family". As for harrassment, meh.....

I dont buy into the whole "kicking a glass of wine on our blanket" beiong equated to "throwing #### at a family". As for harrassment, meh.....



How convenient.

Pfff.

How convenient.

Pfff.

yeah that.

But moral equivalency generation, deflection, redirection, and general excuse making are other key elements of the lefty skill set, of course. Leaving the direct personal attack (if you cannot argue the message, try to destroy the messenger) as the final bit in their kit bag.

So sadly predictable.

I see what beck described as freedom of speech, yes. I dont buy into the whole "kicking a glass of wine on our blanket" beiong equated to "throwing #### at a family". As for harrassment, meh.....

So the next time you hit the River Concert and somebody does that to you while your sitting on the grass watching the music, because your t-shirt offends them..yr totally good with that.

Got it.

You must have been trained by Ghandi.

So the next time you hit the River Concert and somebody does that to you while your sitting on the grass watching the music, because your t-shirt offends them..yr totally good with that.

Got it.

You must have been trained by Ghandi.

which part of their actions would not be covered under freedom of speech?

which part of their actions would not be covered under freedom of speech?

Not my point. My point was to make sure you know how much I respect your incredible level of tolerance for when the same thing happens to you.

What consitutes assault, illegal harassment and other things..we don't even need discuss because you are not bothered by any of that.

I'm in awe.:howdy:

oh ..wait..hang on. From your attitude I might also conclude that you too might do that kind of thing to somebody, since yr clearly OK with it. Maybe I'm not in awe any more.

Not my point. My point was to make sure you know how much I respect your incredible level of tolerance for when the same thing happens to you.

What consitutes assault, illegal harassment and other things..we don't even need discuss because you are not bothered by any of that.

I'm in awe.:howdy:

have you ever been to a concert or a football game? if getting a little beer spilled on you is a fighting offense you are in the wrong place.

as for assault, harrassment and 'other things'..... meh, i am not seeing assault or harassment

have you ever been to a concert or a football game? if getting a little beer spilled on you is a fighting offense you are in the wrong place.

as for assault, harrassment and 'other things'..... meh, i am not seeing assault or harassment

Yr good with people hollering at you and even threatening you for who they think you are or might be, eh?

I'm not.

But yr too predictable and we would not even be engaged in this pointless argument if it was your bestest buddy George Soros who was harangued in a public place by right-wing extremists. A ballet concert, for example, where right-wing are known to hang out a lot.

have you ever been to a concert or a football game? if getting a little beer spilled on you is a fighting offense you are in the wrong place.

Your myopia is acting up again. Lets ignore the spilt win; focus on the rest of it instead.:howdy:

Not my point. My point was to make sure you know how much I respect your incredible level of tolerance for when the same thing happens to you.

What consitutes assault, illegal harassment and other things..we don't even need discuss because you are not bothered by any of that.

I'm in awe.:howdy:

oh ..wait..hang on. From your attitude I might also conclude that you too might do that kind of thing to somebody, since yr clearly OK with it. Maybe I'm not in awe any more.

the old "you must be guilty of the same thing" argument, what is next, trying to make this about me (oh wait, you did that already too) :killingme

still waiting for you to explain what part of their speech was not covered by freedom of speech :whistle:

the old "you must be guilty of the same thing" argument, what is next, trying to make this about me (oh wait, you did that already too) :killingme
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I'll try to talk slower. I merely suggested that if you were 'good with that kind of behavior' then any rational thinking person could easily extrapolate that to you being just fine with doing it yourself.

It's a simple concept, that morals thing.

Your myopia is acting up again. Lets ignore the spilt win; focus on the rest of it instead.:howdy:

well the spilt wine is the only part that would even come close to assault. The rest is FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

I'll try to talk slower. I merely suggested that if you were 'good with that kind of behavior' then any rational thinking person could easily extrapolate that to you being just fine with doing it yourself.

It's a simple concept, that morals thing.

no matter how slow you try to think your logic is still wrong.

try thinking along the lines of 'I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it"

You know, as in freedom of speech

no matter how slow you try to think your logic is still wrong.

try thinking along the lines of 'I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it"

You know, as in freedom of speech

No, I completely get it. You are all good with the fact that freedom of speech gives you (or anyone) the right to harangue, insult and otherwise harass someone who is trying to enjoy a quiet peacefull family afternoon in a public place.

Yr good with that. I'm not. I was raised different. I totally get all that. Carry on.

No, I completely get it. You are all good with the fact that freedom of speech gives you (or anyone) the right to harangue, insult and otherwise harass someone who is trying to enjoy a quiet peacefull family afternoon in a public place.

Yr good with that. I'm not. I was raised different. I totally get all that. Carry on.

I COMPLETELY GET IT TOO, you are not ok with freedom of speech, got it, no problem :bigwhoop:

I COMPLETELY GET IT TOO, you are not ok with freedom of speech, got it, no problem :bigwhoop:

Fail. Not even close.

I got five bucks sez your one of 'those guys' that tries to drown out opposing opinions at a town hall meeting by screaming obscenities at the top of your voice.

That's free speech too.

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I COMPLETELY GET IT TOO, you are not ok with freedom of speech, got it, no problem :bigwhoop:You and people like you are the reason this country is going down the tubes. Now you can carry on.

Fail. Not even close.

:whistle:

I say 'I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it"


and you reply
Yr good with that. I'm not. I was raised different. I totally get all that

sure seems like you are against freedom of speech to me.

You and people like you are the reason this country is going down the tubes. Now you can carry on.

so you are against freddom of speech too, huh? :bigwhoop:

Fail. Not even close.

I got five bucks sez your one of 'those guys' that tries to drown out opposing opinions at a town hall meeting by screaming obscenities at the top of your voice.

That's free speech too.

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hey look, page three from the book of losing an argument, attack the poster :killingme

which part of their actions would not be covered under freedom of speech?

Where it became action and not speech. kicking a glass is not speaking.

hey look, page three from the book of losing an argument, attack the poster :killingme

au contraire. An acknowledgement that your superior communication skillz were very effective in transmitting to me a very clear definition of who you are..or at least how you think all people should act, or be completely free to act on any whim, towards others. Kudos. Your mentor(s) must be proud.

sure seems like you are against freedom of speech to me.

Nope. But I know you need help with this so here goes. It 'seems' that I'm a proponent of:

1. Reasoned and civilized debate.

2. Polite behavior.

3. Respect for privacy

4. and several more...

I know..I know...a fools paradise..a fantasy land (even though your hero Obama briefly called for exactly the things I listed above..but I digress).

Keeping it vicous is your job. Carry on.

:killingme

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Assaulting his wife and family is acceptable to you??

Well I can give you an example of how people are supposed to act, as I'm sure several in here can attest to.

Go to Jerry's in Prince Frederick some night, and see how Steny Hoyer is treated when he's out to dinner with his wife.

PF is in a Conservative dominated county (I believe) and would say probably 90% of the people in the restaurant were/ are Conservative.

We sat in peace and quiet and ate our dinner, and Steny got to enjoy his dinner with is wife in peace and quiet.

Nobody harassed, yelled, intentionally spilled drinks on them, or even bothered them to ask him a question. He was allowed to finish his meal, and enjoy some one on one time with his wife.

It's funny, because as I watched Steny enjoying his dinner, I wondered what would happen if the roles were reversed.. Beck, or Gingrich, or Palin in a Democrat stronghold, in a restaurant filled with Liberals.. I'm thinking this answers my question.

So between the two stories who, Dems or 'Pubs, come across as being the most civil?

Gilligan:

Dude, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS


Thanks


:cheers

I COMPLETELY GET IT TOO, you are not ok with freedom of speech, got it, no problem :bigwhoop:

Has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech it has to do with class.

He's out with his family, he has that right to be in public without being harassed.. Harassment is where a person's freedom of speech ends.

Nope. But I know you need help with this so here goes. It 'seems' that I'm a proponent of:

1. Reasoned and civilized debate.

2. Polite behavior.

3. Respect for privacy

4. and several more...

I know..I know...a fools paradise..a fantasy land (even though your hero Obama briefly called for exactly the things I listed above..but I digress).

Keeping it vicous is your job. Carry on.

Jumping to page 4 huh, calling the poster an obama sympathizer :blahblah:

au contraire. An acknowledgement that your superior communication skillz were very effective in transmitting to me a very clear definition of who you are..or at least how you think all people should act, or be completely free to act on any whim, towards others. Kudos. Your mentor(s) must be proud.

so when i say " I disagree with what you say" you take that as "this is how all people should act"?
No wonder you are so lost in this discussion.

To me it is a simple matter of courteous behavior. I, personally, cannot stand the likes of Beck or Michael Moore, or any other 'extreme' one sided type...politically speaking.
However I think in certain events outside of politics we can act like civilized human beings.

The whole 'I am right, you are wrong therefore you have no right to exist' attitude is what is pretty much wrong with this country. And that is generally speaking from politics, to the way we drive, to just how we treat people.

I do not know, maybe I am being too idealistic here but whatever happened to a civilized debate and treating each other like human beings? If this really happened as he described it is absolute revolting behavior that just shows how truly nasty and selfish we are as humans.

During the film, he was ridiculed, had someone “kick a cup” of wine on his wife and on his blanket, and even witnessed another person stand up and yell, “We hate conservatives here!”


which part of their actions would not be covered under freedom of speech?

None of that is freedom of speech, it's verbal assault. It sounds very similar to how the Nazis treated the Jews in the 30's.

I suppose that you also approved of that behavior.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

fricken right on time, and on his first post in the thread too :lmao:

seriously, too funny

fricken right on time, and on his first post in the thread too :lmao:

seriously, too funny

The Nazis were seriously intolerant a$$holes.
Please explain the difference.

Gilligan:

Dude, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS


Thanks


:cheers

I'll feed them for you Gilligan. Glenn Beck has 2 shows left... Thursday is his last day and I'm going to miss him. He is about the only thing on TV that is free speech since the government seems to control the rest of the media.... the reason he is so hated is because the entitlement generation wants their free candy.

.... anyway he has said his haters will wish he was on just at 5 p.m. - which makes me think we are going to see much more of Glenn Beck. :starcat:

I love love LOVE Glenn Beck so much that I would kiss him on his mouth. Take that, conservative haters.

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Assaulting his wife and family is acceptable to you??

Well I can give you an example of how people are supposed to act, as I'm sure several in here can attest to.

Go to Jerry's in Prince Frederick some night, and see how Steny Hoyer is treated when he's out to dinner with his wife.

PF is in a Conservative dominated county (I believe) and would say probably 90% of the people in the restaurant were/ are Conservative.

We sat in peace and quiet and ate our dinner, and Steny got to enjoy his dinner with is wife in peace and quiet.

Nobody harassed, yelled, intentionally spilled drinks on them, or even bothered them to ask him a question. He was allowed to finish his meal, and enjoy some one on one time with his wife.

It's funny, because as I watched Steny enjoying his dinner, I wondered what would happen if the roles were reversed.. Beck, or Gingrich, or Palin in a Democrat stronghold, in a restaurant filled with Liberals.. I'm thinking this answers my question.

So between the two stories who, Dems or 'Pubs, come across as being the most civil?Not that this has anything to do with the conversation, but Steny's wife passed away several years ago.

which part of their actions would not be covered under freedom of speech?

The part where they're harassing and intimidating Beck's wife and girl-child, dumbass. But you're fine with that. You think it's just ducky. You piece of human excrement. Let's let somebody do it to you and yours and see how you like it.

so you are against freddom of speech too, huh? :bigwhoop:

No one on this thread is against freedom of speech, as apparently you are. F'ing hypocrite. You're totally okay with screaming, yelling, haranguing, verbally assaulting a man with his wife and child under the guise of "freedom of speech," but by gawd, let someone do it to you and you'd have a hissy fit.

Jumping to page 4 huh, calling the poster an obama sympathizer :blahblah:

You need psychiatric help. NOW!

Has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech it has to do with class.

He's out with his family, he has that right to be in public without being harassed.. Harassment is where a person's freedom of speech ends.Y'all are wasting your time on a classless POS who has to be sued to pay his bills. He'd cry like a little school girl if someone did that to him. In FACT, he cries to board mommy every time I exercise my freedom of speech. He's nothing more than a big pussy hiding behind his keyboard. Right Kryle baby? :baby:

I love love LOVE Glenn Beck so much that I would kiss him on his mouth. Take that, conservative haters.


yeah Glenn is a great guy, but the more you respond to "thatguy" the more he trolls




Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

never argue with an idiot, people watching mighty not be able to tell the difference

Gilligan:

Dude, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS


Thanks


:cheers

Sorry. My bad.

yeah Glenn is a great guy, but the more you respond to "thatguy" the more he trolls

:lol: I just wanted to exercise my right to free speech. :biggrin:

And in case you didn't know... I love Glenn Beck. :patriot:

Not that this has anything to do with the conversation, but Steny's wife passed away several years ago.

Okay, not his wife..

Don't like the guy enough to do any research on him... but whomever he was with, they were allowed to have a peaceful dinner.

No, I completely get it. You are all good with the fact that freedom of speech gives you (or anyone) the right to harangue, insult and otherwise harass someone who is trying to enjoy a quiet peacefull family afternoon in a public place.Yr good with that. I'm not. I was raised different. I totally get all that. Carry on.Shame on you Gilligan. You should know better than that. It's all OK as long as it's the liberals doing it to someone else. When it's done to them, it falls under things like harassment, assault, racism, etc. When will you learn. :doh:

The part where they're harassing and intimidating Beck's wife and girl-child, dumbass. But you're fine with that. You think it's just ducky. You piece of human excrement. Let's let somebody do it to you and yours and see how you like it.

you guys are too funny, cry about somebody being rude to glen beck and claim that their speech isn't protected, and then engage in a group attack of a poster because you oppose his views. hypocrite much?
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Y'all are wasting your time on a classless POS who has to be sued to pay his bills. He'd cry like a little school girl if someone did that to him. In FACT, he cries to board mommy every time I exercise my freedom of speech. He's nothing more than a big pussy hiding behind his keyboard. Right Kryle baby? :baby:

Hey look, its my favorite pussy. talk about hypocrites, bwjajaja stalked me up but is skeered to follow up and get his ass kicked, so who is the pussy sitting behind the keyboard?
bwjajajajajaja

you guys are too funny, cry about somebody being rude to glen beck and claim that their speech isn't protected, and then engage in a group attack of a poster because you oppose his views. hypocrite much?
:killingme

Somebody call the wahmbulance. And send thatguy a dictionary that's already open to the word 'hypocrite'. He's crying about us 'exercising our rights of free speech' exactly as he himself thinks it should be exercised.

Oh the irony.:killingme

Somebody call the wahmbulance. And send thatguy a dictionary that's already open to the word 'hypocrite'. He's crying about us 'exercising our rights of free speech' exactly as he himself thinks it should be exercised.

Oh the irony.:killingme

I haven't complained about your attacks, i have pointed out that they are stupid and how hypocritcal they are considering you are all so up in arms over someone doing a similar thing to glen :killingme

I haven't complained about your attacks, i have pointed out that they are stupid and how hypocritcal they are considering you are all so up in arms over someone doing a similar thing to glen :killingme

huh?

I haven't complained about your attacks, i have pointed out that they are stupid and how hypocritcal they are considering you are all so up in arms over someone doing a similar thing to glen :killingme

If you don't see the difference than you are truelly lost and it is of no use trying to reason with you.

If you don't see the difference than you are truelly lost and it is of no use trying to reason with you.

so the difference is that it is wrong only when someone ELSE does it :killingme

you guys are too funny, cry about somebody being rude to glen beck and claim that their speech isn't protected, and then engage in a group attack of a poster because you oppose his views. hypocrite much?
:killingme
Yep, thats what they said, wasn't it.:sarcasm:

A liberal congresswoman is shot by a madman with no link or evidence at all to the political opposition, and the accussation are unending that the right and sarah palin might as well have pulled the trigger themselves. And we get all this coverage, speechs and commentary about how we must change the discourse of our speech, we'll at least when it comes to how we treat liberals. Within a week we still saw outrageous discourse toward conservatives.

A commentator can't enjoy a public outing with his family, without being harrassed, forget all those calls for improving our discourse, that was "protected speech".

Free Speech means you can act like a total A$$ in public, and it also means everyone else has the Free Speech to call you on it, and let the world know what an A$$ you are. You cross the line when you harrass people, but that becomes treachorous grounds for the government to enforce, and its rightfully left to keep the benefit of the doubt leaning toward the civil liberty side. Thus, it is even more important as a free society, people use their free speech to point out what a total and complete A$$ those people are, that cross the line.

oops..wrong source quoted. Rats.

Back to our regularly scheduled exercise of unrestrained free speech.

I haven't complained about your attacks, i have pointed out that they are stupid and how hypocritcal they are considering you are all so up in arms over someone doing a similar thing to glen :killingme

Someone in here intentionally spilled wine on your husband??

Are they talkiong about the conservative Glenn Beck or the liberal Glenn Beck who work for CNN in 2008?

so the difference is that it is wrong only when someone ELSE does it :killingme

Do me a favor, let me know when and where you plan to be in a public place again; say a restaurant or movie theater, or mall. I'd like to exercise my free speech rights and gather a crowd around you and yell and jeer constantly at you the entire time so that it is absolutely impossible for you to FREELY enjoy your day. No really, please. I am really feeling the urge to just express myself freely as this country allows and you seem to be just the person for this.

Do me a favor, let me know when and where you plan to be in a public place again; say a restaurant or movie theater, or mall. I'd like to exercise my free speech rights and gather a crowd around you and yell and jeer constantly at you the entire time so that it is absolutely impossible for you to FREELY enjoy your day. No really, please. I am really feeling the urge to just express myself freely as this country allows and you seem to be just the person for this.

You too, huh? thatguy inspired in me the exact same urge. Go figure.

Do me a favor, let me know when and where you plan to be in a public place again; say a restaurant or movie theater, or mall. I'd like to exercise my free speech rights and gather a crowd around you and yell and jeer constantly at you the entire time so that it is absolutely impossible for you to FREELY enjoy your day. No really, please. I am really feeling the urge to just express myself freely as this country allows and you seem to be just the person for this.

funny how all the people who claim this "freedom of speech" is wrong are the ones that want to engage in it. You guys are really making my point, that its all good as long as you are the ones doing it. :bigwhoop:

Yep, thats what they said, wasn't it.:sarcasm:

A liberal congresswoman is shot by a madman with no link or evidence at all to the political opposition, and the accussation are unending that the right and sarah palin might as well have pulled the trigger themselves.


First off , Mr. Data, you are wrong once again. Ms. Giffords is considered a moderate Democrat, which is in part why she is popular in her district.

With regard to the right and Sarah Palin pulling the trigger, the shoe fits well or should I say gun, metaphorically speaking of course.



And we get all this coverage, speechs and commentary about how we must change the discourse of our speech, we'll at least when it comes to how we treat liberals. Within a week we still saw outrageous discourse toward conservatives.


[COLOR="Blue"]Really? At least no "liberals" punched a woman in the face at a town hall meeting, or stepped on the head/neck of a young woman and then pushed down harder, and no liberal yelled "hang him" in reference to a presidential candidate. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. BTW, Bohner, as majority speaker of the House, did not have the decency to attend the memorial and gathering for those slain or wounded in Tucson (including a House Rep. who was targeted for assassination).


A commentator can't enjoy a public outing with his family, without being harrassed, forget all those calls for improving our discourse, that was "protected speech".


Ahhhh, I feel so sorry for cry baby Beck. Sadly, a long standing Democratic congressman can't walk back to the Capital without being spat upon (assaulted).


Free Speech means you can act like a total A$$ in public, and it also means everyone else has the Free Speech to call you on it, and let the world know what an A$$ you are. You cross the line when you harrass people, but that becomes treachorous grounds for the government to enforce, and its rightfully left to keep the benefit of the doubt leaning toward the civil liberty side. Thus, it is even more important as a free society, people use their free speech to point out what a total and complete A$$ those people are, that cross the line.


That's right son, and that is why I am pointing out what a complete A$$ you are in addition to your many compatriots who post on this forum. :killingme

Someone in here intentionally spilled wine on your husband??

Interesting, Bobbie, that we have only heard testimony from cry baby Beck. Were are all the other witness testimonies? Not saying that it did not happen, but .... And in this day and age of technology, it would certainly be beneficial to see some visual evidence (kind of like Michael Steele and OREOGATE). Was wine intentionally spilled, is Beck telling the truth, he is known to exaggerate.

Ahhhh, I feel so sorry for cry baby Beck. Sadly, a long standing Democratic congressman can't walk back to the Capital without being spat upon (assaulted).



Sure they can. It's never happend yet anyway.

That's right son, and that is why I am pointing out what a complete A$$ you are in addition to your many compatriots who post on this forum. :killingme

You must have achieved an advanced degree in Moral Equivalency from somewhere. You have mad skillz....:howdy:

"Thread" denotes some sort of continuity, yes?. So this is not a thread. It can be summarized like this:

Glen Beck was treated rudely while spending time with family in a public place.

thatguy sez its OK; that's what "Freedom of Speach" means

thatguy is questioned about how receptive he would be to recieving same treatment.

thatguy responds with "what?..er..hey..look over there!..a unicorn!"

his attempted diversion unsuccesful, he is called out and cries like a baby instead.

Mr. Steed shows up.

Really nasty boob pics to inevitably follow.

.... anyway he has said his haters will wish he was on just at 5 p.m. - which makes me think we are going to see much more of Glenn Beck. :starcat:

This is his new home:
GBTV (http://www.gbtv.com)

"Thread" denotes some sort of continuity, yes?. So this is not a thread. It can be summarized like this:

Glen Beck was treated rudely while spending time with family in a public place.

thatguy sez its OK; that's what "Freedom of Speach" means

thatguy is questioned about how receptive he would be to recieving same treatment.

thatguy responds with "what?..er..hey..look over there!..a unicorn!"

his attempted diversion unsuccesful, he is called out and cries like a baby instead.

Mr. Steed shows up.

Really nasty boob pics to inevitably follow.

i see you are almost as good at revising history as you are hypocracy :killingme
Particularly funny considering you are one of the guys who claims it was so wrong, but then say you would act in the exact same manner to me.

iParticularly funny considering you are one of the guys who claims it was so wrong, but then say you would act in the exact same manner to me.

uh...not. I said that the behavior exhibited toward Beck and his wife was inappropriate..rude..wrong. You said it was just fine&dandy and just an exercise in Freedom of Speech, nothing more.

I and others then asked how you would like to be on the receiving end of the same kind of behavior under similar circumstances.

You've done nothing but dodge, weave and deflect ever since you were asked that question.:killingme

uh...not. I said that the behavior exhibited toward Beck and his wife was inappropriate..rude..wrong. You said it was just fine&dandy and just an exercise in Freedom of Speech, nothing more.

I and others then asked how you would like to be on the receiving end of the same kind of behavior under similar circumstances.

You've done nothing but dodge, weave and deflect ever since you were asked that question.:killingme

so now freedom of speech is limited by how it makes the people who hear it feel? really?
like i said, this is particularly funny considering the folks whio are saying this incident was wrong are the same ones who have said they would like to do the same to me, or have already done the forum equivilent in this thread. :bigwhoop:

so now freedom of speech is limited by how it makes the people who hear it feel? really?
like i said, this is particularly funny considering the folks whio are saying this incident was wrong are the same ones who have said they would like to do the same to me, or have already done the forum equivilent in this thread. :bigwhoop:

You've still never answered the question.:whistle:

You've still never answered the question.:whistle:

because it is not pertinent to the discussion of freedom of speech and is just being used as a distraction.

because it is not pertinent to the discussion of freedom of speech and is just being used as a distraction.

Sure it is. :patonhead: Run along now.

First off , Mr. Data, you are wrong once again. Ms. Giffords is considered a moderate Democrat, which is in part why she is popular in her district.
Considered Moderate by whom?
Hardcore Liberal: The story of Gabby Giffords « Gabby Watch (http://gabbywatch.com/2008/06/30/hardcore-liberal-the-story-of-gabby-giffords/index.html)
in the summer of 2008, On The Issues (http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Gabby_Giffords.htm#Corporations) has changed their mind about Gabby’s so-called “moderate” positions. Now, she is rated as a HARDCORE LIBERAL.
They still rate her as a "moderate liberal" NOT a "moderate".
With regard to the right and Sarah Palin pulling the trigger, the shoe fits well or should I say gun, metaphorically speaking of course.
:killingme:killingmeWould you care to offer the slightest bit of evidence of how the shoe (or gun) fits? It doesn't and every sane rational person that wouldn't whore out their integrity for political points has come to that conclusion.
Really? At least no "liberals" punched a woman in the face at a town hall meeting, or stepped on the head/neck of a young woman and then pushed down harder, and no liberal yelled "hang him" in reference to a presidential candidate. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. BTW, Bohner, as majority speaker of the House, did not have the decency to attend the memorial and gathering for those slain or wounded in Tucson (including a House Rep. who was targeted for assassination).
Naw, Liberals only punch children holding protest signs.

It was not the fear of conservative violence that caused Ann Coulter's speech to be cancelled (http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100323/coulter_canada_100323/20100323?hub=BritishColumbiaHome).
It was a liberal who bit the finger off a man (http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-finger-bitten-rally,0,7135717.story) who disagreed with him on healthcare.
It was Obama-loving Amy Bishop who took a gun to work (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting) and murdered co-workers.
Joseph Stack flew his plane into the IRS building (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/austin-plane-crash-office_n_467264.html) after writing an anti-conservative manifesto.
It was liberals who destroyed AM radio towers (http://www.newser.com/story/68673/ecoterrorists-topple-seattle-area-radio-towers.html) outside of Seattle.
It's liberals who burn down Hummer dealerships (http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/extreme-hummer-hate-ignites-fear-in-denver).
It was progressive SEIU union thugs who beat a black conservative man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFOjQ) who spoke his mind.
It's doubtful that a conservative fired shots into a GOP campaign headquarters (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-05-gop-office-attack_x.htm).
In fact, Democrats have no monopoly (http://www.wsmv.com/politics/17770884/detail.html) on having (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002059735_webbushoffice11.html) their offices vandalized (http://www.savethegop.com/?p=5005).
Don't forget it was Obama's friend Bill Ayers who used terrorism (http://www.academia.org/left-wing-violence-exposed/) as a tool for political change. SDS is still radical, with arrests in 2007 and the storming of the CATO Institute in July 2008.
It was a liberal who was sentenced to two years (http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS248104+14-May-2009+PRN20090514) for bringing bombs and riot shields to the Republican National Convention in 2008.
It was a liberal who threatened to kill a government informant (http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/08/24/0824kibby.html) who infiltrated her Austin-based group that planned to bomb the RNC.
It was liberals who assaulted police in Berkeley (http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/08/berkeley-tree-sitter-travesty-continues-officer-battered/).
It was liberals who intimidated and threw rocks through the windows (http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/11/animal-rights-thugs-terrorizing-berkeley-researchers/) of researchers.
The two Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with nightsticks (http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/04/black-panther-intimidation-at-the-polls/) were probably not right-wingers.
Every time the G20 gets together, it's not conservatives who destroy property and cause chaos (http://cofcc.org/2009/09/actual-political-violence/).Read more: The Media's Myth of Right Wing Violence | NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mithridate-ombud/2010/03/24/medias-myth-right-wing-violence#ixzz1QgpQJVfD)

And pitifully, even your example of guy putting his foot on womans head/throat is exaggerated and your only telling half the story.:killingmeOh the punching a woman in Nevada has been described as a brawl, and it appears it was a young woman and a fat grey haired old man.
Ahhhh, I feel so sorry for cry baby Beck. Sadly, a long standing Democratic congressman can't walk back to the Capital without being spat upon (assaulted).
Video: Emanuel Cleaver Spitting Incident Now Mirrors Seinfeld Parody
Video: Emanuel Cleaver Spitting Incident Now Mirrors Seinfeld Parody - St. Louis News - Daily RFT (http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2010/03/emanuel_cleaver_spitting_incident_now_mirrors_seinfeld_parody.php)

Congressman Cleaver Admits He Was Not Spit Upon
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/congressman-cleaver-admits-he-was-not-spit-upon/question-950370/?page=5 (http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/congressman-cleaver-admits-he-was-not-spit-upon/question-950370/?page=5)

That's right son, and that is why I am pointing out what a complete A$$ you are in addition to your many compatriots who post on this forum. :killingme
:killingmeDo I need to say anything else, your own post proves who the A$$ is.:killingmeTake a clue from Harry Reid, when you rely on mediamatters.org for your information, you end up looking like a idiot.:killingme

Sure it is. :patonhead: Run along now.

isnt that cute, you think that freedom of speech should be limited by people's feelings, how liberal of you :killingme

I cannot believe this discussion is still continuing. :lmao:


As if anyone is surprised by intolerance from the Left. :gasp!:

Then the forum Lefties show up and people engage them as if they have a point.


:crazy:

isnt that cute, you think that freedom of speech should be limited by people's feelings, how liberal of you :killingme

Wrong again. Unlike you, I have a strong sense of how people should behave towards each other in public places, in the work place, and anywhere else where the interaction between human beings benefits from a combination of mutual respect and consideration.

Once you stated for the record that you have no concept of manners or polite behavior and/or consider them inconsequential and irrelevant to human interaction, I stopped giving one rats arse what I or anyone else said to ya. I'm not a dedicated 'high roader'..LOL

Wrong again. Unlike you, I have a strong sense of how people should behave towards each other in public places, in the work place, and anywhere else where the interaction between human beings benefits from a combination of mutual respect and consideration.

Once you stated for the record that you have no concept of manners or polite behavior and/or consider them inconsequential and irrelevant to human interaction, I stopped giving one rats arse what I or anyone else said to ya. I'm not a dedicated 'high roader'..LOL

thats funny, now your not only revising history, but making shiat up too :killingme

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Ahhhh, I feel so sorry for cry baby Beck. Sadly, a long standing Democratic congressman can't walk back to the Capital without being spat upon (assaulted).



britebart offer $10,000 for proof that happened and no one ever came forward to claim the prize

thats funny, now your not only revising history, but making shiat up too :killingme

Start a poll. Ask how many people think I'm more funny than you are sad.

G' head.:howdy:

Interesting, Bobbie, that we have only heard testimony from cry baby Beck. Were are all the other witness testimonies? Not saying that it did not happen, but .... And in this day and age of technology, it would certainly be beneficial to see some visual evidence (kind of like Michael Steele and OREOGATE). Was wine intentionally spilled, is Beck telling the truth, he is known to exaggerate.
:killingme:killingmeYou just posted complaining about the disproven claim Congressman Cleaver was spat on, that is so laughable, people play the Seinfield episode about the same thing.

You have to be a daily visitor to mediamatters.org, where liberal opinion is fact and exculpatory facts are all lies, disproven by liberal opinion.:killingme

Steele, the accounts vary and the reporting varies wildly, with NO proof one way or the other, Steele has NOT changed his account that is far more mild than some of the accounts, so that obvously proves its untrue in your eyes.:whistle:

BUT, Cleaver, that admitted he was never spat on, with the video to prove it, NAW, that is still true.:killingme

Start a poll. Ask how many people think I'm more funny than you are sad.

G' head.:howdy:

is that how you want to decide what speech is allowed? :killingme

is that how you want to decide what speech is allowed? :killingme

I never used the word allowed. You did.

I use words like appropriate..polite..reasonable..rational.......words like that.:coffee:

Start a poll. Ask how many people think I'm more funny than you are sad.

G' head.:howdy:is that how you want to decide what speech is allowed? :killingme
thatguy is many times more sad, but if I saw him in public trying to enjoy himself and his family, I would respect that and NOT bother them.

Because you know you can expect the same kind of respect and discourse in return. :sarcasm:

I never used the word allowed. You did.

I use words like appropriate..polite..reasonable..rational.......words like that.:coffee:

no matter how slow you try to think your logic is still wrong.

try thinking along the lines of 'I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it"

You know, as in freedom of speech
so you have been in violent agreement with me all along :killingme

thatguy is many times more sad, but if I saw him in public trying to enjoy himself and his family, I would respect that and NOT bother them.

Because you know you can expect the same kind of respect and discourse in return. :sarcasm:

oh look, back to the "accuse the poster of being guilty of the same actions" tact. why am i not surprised.
You must not understand this either:
'I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it"

You know, as in freedom of speech

oh look, back to the "accuse the poster of being guilty of the same actions" tact. why am i not surprised.
You must not understand this either:
'I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it"

You know, as in freedom of speech
No, I looked back to this long line of BS:
well the spilt wine is the only part that would even come close to assault. The rest is FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
I COMPLETELY GET IT TOO, you are not ok with freedom of speech, got it, no problem :bigwhoop:
...sure seems like you are against freedom of speech to me.
so you are against freddom of speech too, huh? :bigwhoop:
you guys are too funny, cry about somebody being rude to glen beck and claim that their speech isn't protected, and then engage in a group attack of a poster because you oppose his views. hypocrite much?
:killingme
Hey look, its my favorite pussy. talk about hypocrites, bwjajaja stalked me up but is skeered to follow up and get his ass kicked, so who is the pussy sitting behind the keyboard?
bwjajajajajaja
I haven't complained about your attacks, i have pointed out that they are stupid and how hypocritcal they are considering you are all so up in arms over someone doing a similar thing to glen :killingme
funny how all the people who claim this "freedom of speech" is wrong are the ones that want to engage in it. You guys are really making my point, that its all good as long as you are the ones doing it. :bigwhoop:
i see you are almost as good at revising history as you are hypocracy :killingme
Particularly funny considering you are one of the guys who claims it was so wrong, but then say you would act in the exact same manner to me.
so now freedom of speech is limited by how it makes the people who hear it feel? really?
like i said, this is particularly funny considering the folks whio are saying this incident was wrong are the same ones who have said they would like to do the same to me, or have already done the forum equivilent in this thread. :bigwhoop:
isnt that cute, you think that freedom of speech should be limited by people's feelings, how liberal of you :killingme
is that how you want to decide what speech is allowed? :killingme
There is a difference between you starting an argument on a "Politics Forum" and someone else trying to enjoy the afternoon with their family. The rules of civil behaviour are different for the two different circumstances. People arguing that, are NOT trying to restrict anyone's free speech, they are pointing out how classless, rude and disrespectful some people are.

No amount of side-stepping, distraction or intellectual equalivalent of the 3 cups and a ball is going to change the truth of this matter.

they are pointing out how classless, rude and disrespectful some people are..

What he said.:coffee:

Is it on youtube yet?

No, I looked back to this long line of BS:












There is a difference between you starting an argument on a "Politics Forum" and someone else trying to enjoy the afternoon with their family. The rules of civil behaviour are different for the two different circumstances. People arguing that, are NOT trying to restrict anyone's free speech, they are pointing out how classless, rude and disrespectful some people are.

No amount of side-stepping, distraction or intellectual equalivalent of the 3 cups and a ball is going to change the truth of this matter.

what part of "i disagree with what they said" dont you understand?

you will notice that i didn't say they acted with class, or that they were morally right, only that they had a right to free speech. I was consistent all along.

as for the guys engaging in exactly what you are critcizing these folks for doing, accept it, you are being hypocritical.

Is it on youtube yet?

What?...a bunch of people verbally accosting thatguy in Outback whilst in the middle of his steak?...or you mean the incident Beck reported?

:whistle:

What?...a bunch of people verbally accosting thatguy in Outback whilst in the middle of his steak?...or you mean the incident Beck reported?

:whistle:

Glenn Beck.

what part of "i disagree with what they said" dont you understand?

you will notice that i didn't say they acted with class, or that they were morally right, only that they had a right to free speech. I was consistent all along.

as for the guys engaging in exactly what you are critcizing these folks for doing, accept it, you are being hypocritical.
In other words:
:lalala:
My summation added.

Your creating a Moral Equavilance to argue that two different situations that are drastically different, are actually the same.

Or, do you really want us to believe that you can't differentiate, you really do NOT understand the difference that any 2nd grader could? You can't understand the written word right in front of you?


Do you understand the words coming out of my mouth?

Glenn Beck.

I was being facetious. (I know..I know..out of character for me).

A good question though. In this day and age its not much that isn't recorded by somebody's cell phone or three.

In other words:

My summation added.

Your creating a Moral Equavilance to argue that two different situations that are drastically different, are actually the same.

Or, do you really want us to believe that you can't differentiate, you really do NOT understand the difference that any 2nd grader could? You can't understand the written word right in front of you?

I understand the difference, in one case it was "us" so it was ok, in the other it was "them" so it was bad :sarcasm:

I understand the difference, in one case it was "us" so it was ok, in the other it was "them" so it was bad :sarcasm:

huh??

I was being facetious. (I know..I know..out of character for me).

A good question though. In this day and age its not much that isn't recorded by somebody's cell phone or three.

Does seem a bit curious..

I understand the difference, in one case it was "us" so it was ok, in the other it was "them" so it was bad :sarcasm:
You must have been really good at dodge ball, I've never seen someone make a lateral move off the actual subject than that.
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Is it on youtube yet?



no but apparently the biatch post on her twitter account .........


Twitter FAIL (http://forums.somd.com/politics/229446-so-much-tolerance-left-ii-fail-twit.html)

:popcorn:

Did Beck cry? Just sayin....he cries a lot.

Did Beck cry? Just sayin....he cries a lot.

LMAO.