Just wondering if anyone has used this company? We got an estimate from them last night and the salesman seemed to be an honest guy. Can't really find reviews or anything except for two reviews for the VA office. Also, how much have people paid per window in the past? We are looking at getting the argon/low-e windows, pvc frame with the foam insulation. Any info or recommendation are appreciated.

Are'nt all windows see through....??? If not would'nt it be a wall ??:killingme

Just wondering if anyone has used this company? We got an estimate from them last night and the salesman seemed to be an honest guy. Can't really find reviews or anything except for two reviews for the VA office. Also, how much have people paid per window in the past? We are looking at getting the argon/low-e windows, pvc frame with the foam insulation. Any info or recommendation are appreciated.

YIKES!!

Rip-off Report | SEE-THRU WINDOWS AND DOORS, LLC | Complaint Review: 431370 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/glass-companies/see-thru-windows-and/see-thru-windows-and-doors-ll-4e5p2.htm)

I have no opinion, but you may after you read the attached article.

Are'nt all windows see through....??? If not would'nt it be a wall ??:killingme

Surely you see the irony in the name; the play on words. :lmao:

You DO see that don't you Surely.....I mean Dave..... :snort:

Are'nt all windows see through....??? If not would'nt it be a wall ??:killingme

Have to be leery of a window company that thinks having See THrough windows is something special.

itsbob, I did see that review but I looked into it, and they definately have a maryland state home improvement license that doesn't expire until october 2013 and their insurance is a 2 million dollar policy that is good through november of 2012. The salesman I had was not pushy at all and references have been given with no issues. Of course I don't take too much stock in references that are given by the selling company for obvious reasons. But so far everything that article has said, I have not found to be the case. Also, the better business bureau has them rated at A+ with only 7 complaints in the past three years. I'm not defending them at all (although it may seem that way) I also, wouldn't want one review to turn me off to a good company. I just want to see if anybody has any experience with them.

I recommend Marvin windows. The closest showroom is Annapolis but the quality and service are well worth it.

itsbob, I did see that review but I looked into it, and they definately have a maryland state home improvement license that doesn't expire until october 2013 and their insurance is a 2 million dollar policy that is good through november of 2012. The salesman I had was not pushy at all and references have been given with no issues. Of course I don't take too much stock in references that are given by the selling company for obvious reasons. But so far everything that article has said, I have not found to be the case. Also, the better business bureau has them rated at A+ with only 7 complaints in the past three years. I'm not defending them at all (although it may seem that way) I also, wouldn't want one review to turn me off to a good company. I just want to see if anybody has any experience with them.

Well, you've been forewarned.

I just have to ask if they sell you EXPENSIVE low-E and Argon windows, how can you tell (other than looking at the stickers on the windows) if you got what you paid for?

Seems like it would be TOO easy for any company to rip you off for expensive windows and give you the cheapest product they sell.

Luckily I'm a nice guy, but I could see somebody that isn't spending the .50 per window for a sticker to put on a plain window.

Lastly, with the kind of money you are going to be spending on windows, I personally would go with a brick and mortar store that's been around awhile. Someone local who's doing business and has built up a good reputation.. Kind of like a neighbor, or fellow countian..

I used Southern Maryland Windows and Siding and they were great. $330 per window installed, capped and insulated. They advertise here and are reliable, local and honest

Also, the better business bureau has them rated at A+ with only 7 complaints in the past three years. 7 in 3 years?!?!?! There are businesses that have been around for decades that have 0 complaints. 7 complaints in 3 years is horrible IMO.

7 in 3 years?!?!?! There are businesses that have been around for decades that have 0 complaints. 7 complaints in 3 years is horrible IMO.

Really?

Really?
IMO

Really?

yes, really...maybe 1 complaint in 3 years, but not 7. I say stay away from this outfit. you will definitely regret it...IMO

I'm going to give SoMd Windows and Siding a call then as suggested and see what they say.

Surely you see the irony in the name; the play on words. :lmao:

You DO see that don't you Surely.....I mean Dave..... :snort:

Yes I did. It was :sarcasm:

See thru windows also sells pool tables and hot tubs at their Waldorf showroom.

I thought about this as the earth moved, under my feet andi asked myself. "self, is this a new way of spamming?" It sure seems possible. Talk about a company, tell people where to find the bad review than say. "Oh yeah, I saw that one too and researched it and....." I mean if I can be devious enough to put a 50 cent sticker on a $99 window and sell it for $400 this doesn't sound too far fetched.

I guve them points for original thinking, but I don't think it worked as well as they had hoped.

Well, you've been forewarned.

I just have to ask if they sell you EXPENSIVE low-E and Argon windows, how can you tell (other than looking at the stickers on the windows) if you got what you paid for?

Seems like it would be TOO easy for any company to rip you off for expensive windows and give you the cheapest product they sell.

Luckily I'm a nice guy, but I could see somebody that isn't spending the .50 per window for a sticker to put on a plain window.

Lastly, with the kind of money you are going to be spending on windows, I personally would go with a brick and mortar store that's been around awhile. Someone local who's doing business and has built up a good reputation.. Kind of like a neighbor, or fellow countian..

:yay: Bob Green Siding and Windows. They did our replacement windows and siding. Then, when we added a new porch, we had them come out and do those windows too! We have nothing but good things to say about them!

Lol, itsbob I assure you I am not a spammer or salesman, just trying to get the best for my money, and to let you know, I am most likely not going with See-thru windows. My main reason is just the expense. After talking to a few people it seems that the expense just isn't worth it and that others have gotten a job done with similar quality windows (I'm not debating how good these guy's windows are, or aren't, the sales pitch was very good) for less. I appreciate the other suggestions and have put a call into southern maryland windows and siding, and am awaiting a return phone call for an estimate. And I will probably try Bob Green also. Although, I have to ask, itsbob, that wouldn't happen to be you would it?

And I will probably try Bob Green also. Although, I have to ask, itsbob, that wouldn't happen to be you would it?

Unbiased response: ItsBob is not Bob Green. I've met both of them.

Ok, just thought maybe there was some things that were starting to add up but i guess I was wrong.

I just have to ask if they sell you EXPENSIVE low-E and Argon windows, how can you tell (other than looking at the stickers on the windows) if you got what you paid for?


I think in this case you would have to do your own test. I still plan on buying argon filled windows and the way that I'm going to check them is put a heat source on one side for a set amount of time, record the temperature on the heat source side and then the temperature on the non-source side. From there if you have the thicknesses of the glass, as well as the void (and you should have both as part of the specs), you should be able to find the heat transfer coefficients for the material in the void. With some error you should then be able to match it up to argon.

Sorry, spoken like a true engineer I know. But if anybody has any other ideas let me know.

I think in this case you would have to do your own test. I still plan on buying argon filled windows and the way that I'm going to check them is put a heat source on one side for a set amount of time, record the temperature on the heat source side and then the temperature on the non-source side. From there if you have the thicknesses of the glass, as well as the void (and you should have both as part of the specs), you should be able to find the heat transfer coefficients for the material in the void. With some error you should then be able to match it up to argon.

Sorry, spoken like a true engineer I know. But if anybody has any other ideas let me know.

Yes, Deal with a reputable company that you dont have to go behind and check..

That's what I'm working on by trying to get info from the people down in good ole southern maryland.

My only complaint is after I got their card at a home show, they wouldn't leave us alone. We decided against getting windows at the time and a year or two later they were still calling us, even after we told them to stop. I don't begrudge a salesman trying to make a buck, but this was ridiculous! We had another company (who shall remain nameless) quote us $14K for EIGHT double-hung windows. They looked at us like WE were crazy when we politely declined.

I think in this case you would have to do your own test. I still plan on buying argon filled windows and the way that I'm going to check them is put a heat source on one side for a set amount of time, record the temperature on the heat source side and then the temperature on the non-source side. From there if you have the thicknesses of the glass, as well as the void (and you should have both as part of the specs), you should be able to find the heat transfer coefficients for the material in the void. With some error you should then be able to match it up to argon.

Sorry, spoken like a true engineer I know. But if anybody has any other ideas let me know.

When Mickey from Southern Maryland Windows and Siding came he brought a sample window and he explained the options, Low E coating, internal (fake) panes, Argon and all that. I got the Low E and the internal panes and was going to get the argon and he said it was a waste. He showed me the numbers and the difference in R value was minimal. he could have just let me add a few bucks to each window and took the extra profit but he told me and prevented me from spending more than I had to.

That to me means he is honest.

That said they came and installed the windows, from the outside so they didn't destroy the trim inside, insulated, caulked and wrapped them in aluminum, cleaned up and left and have not had the first issue.

I lived her 3 years before having the windows replaced and once I did the difference was immediate and noticeable. First the windows cut down noise. First thing I noticed when they installed them is I didn't hear cars drive by. Before it sounded like they were driving into the house. Then the power bills came and I dropped my electric bill by 25%. Yes a full 25%. Oil is harder to judge but I noticed my deliveries were for markedly less gallons than before.

I would have to say replacing all my windows was the best improvement I have made to my house hands down.

Pete, Southern Maryland Windows did the sales and install, but who actually made the windows?

Yeah, I've got Tony from Southern Maryland Window and Siding coming out tomorrow evening to give me an estimate.

See thru windows also sells pool tables and hot tubs at their Waldorf showroom.

2 different businesses.. windows upstaris, Charlie Browns pool tables downstairs...

Pete, Southern Maryland Windows did the sales and install, but who actually made the windows?

Some company in Jersey.

Charlie Brown owns every thing in that building- windows & doors, exercise equipment store, pool table store and hot tub/spa store.

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If I were in the market for any thing Charlie sold, I'd buy from him without question.

Thanks, I stand corrected.

Ok, so just for all of your information in case you ever decide to get windows. I had Tony from SoMd Windows come out and he was exactly 55% less for almost the same quality window, they were still argon filled and low-E coated. The only difference was that the windows he was offering weren't filled with foam, they just had the air chambers. I called See-Thru windows and declined their offer to which their VP, Steve, tried to push the sale by offering a lower number than their first quote. I was not a big fan of Steve, very pushy on the phone, wanting to set up another appointment, and see if they could lower the number even more... and so on and so forth. Tony's quote was still lower than See-Thru's supposed "bottom line". So I think it's clear who I am going to go with.