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nhboy
11-04-2011, 04:52 PM
Link to original article. (http://richarddawkins.net/articles/643761-what-s-god-got-to-do-with-it)

"The House voted 396-9 this week to reaffirm as the national motto the phrase "In God We Trust" and encouraged its pronouncement on public buildings and continued printing on the coin of the realm. "

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"What is troubling — and should trouble any enlightened citizen of a modern nation such as ours — is the implication that in this age of science and technology, computers and cyberspace, and liberal democracies securing rights and freedoms for oppressed peoples all over the globe, that anyone could still hold to the belief that religion has a monopoly on morality and that the foundation of trust is based on engraving four words on brick and paper."

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"It's time to drop the God talk and face reality with a steely-eyed visage of the modern understanding of the origin of freedom on which the United States was founded and continues to be secured. God has nothing to do with it. If you want freedom and security, you need the following:

The rule of law; property rights; a secure and trustworthy banking and monetary system; economic stability; a reliable infrastructure and the freedom to move about the country; freedom of the press; freedom of association; education for the masses; protection of civil liberties; a clean and safe environment; a robust military for protection of our liberties from attacks by other states; a potent police force for protection of our freedoms from attacks by people within the state; a viable legislative system for establishing fair and just laws; and an effective judicial system for the equitable enforcement of those fair and just laws."

jdboss
11-04-2011, 05:25 PM
In answer to your question.... Everything.

aps45819
11-04-2011, 09:46 PM
"It's time to drop the God talk and face reality with a steely-eyed visage of the modern understanding of the origin of freedom on which the United States was founded and continues to be secured. God has nothing to do with it. If you want freedom and security, you need the following:


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

Baz
11-04-2011, 11:06 PM
Link to original article. (http://richarddawkins.net/articles/643761-what-s-god-got-to-do-with-it)

"The House voted 396-9 this week to reaffirm as the national motto the phrase "In God We Trust" and encouraged its pronouncement on public buildings and continued printing on the coin of the realm. "

.....

"What is troubling — and should trouble any enlightened citizen of a modern nation such as ours — is the implication that in this age of science and technology, computers and cyberspace, and liberal democracies securing rights and freedoms for oppressed peoples all over the globe, that anyone could still hold to the belief that religion has a monopoly on morality and that the foundation of trust is based on engraving four words on brick and paper."

.....

"It's time to drop the God talk and face reality with a steely-eyed visage of the modern understanding of the origin of freedom on which the United States was founded and continues to be secured. God has nothing to do with it. If you want freedom and security, you need the following:

The rule of law; property rights; a secure and trustworthy banking and monetary system; economic stability; a reliable infrastructure and the freedom to move about the country; freedom of the press; freedom of association; education for the masses; protection of civil liberties; a clean and safe environment; a robust military for protection of our liberties from attacks by other states; a potent police force for protection of our freedoms from attacks by people within the state; a viable legislative system for establishing fair and just laws; and an effective judicial system for the equitable enforcement of those fair and just laws."

:buddies:

BOP
11-05-2011, 08:26 AM
I should find it absolutely unconscionable that with all the issues facing this country, that the most important issue that they decided to vote on was "in God we trust."

But I'm pretty jaded any more, and not a whole lot even surprises me these days. Dumbasses.

aps45819
11-06-2011, 09:26 AM
I should find it absolutely unconscionable that with all the issues facing this country, that the most important issue that they decided to vote on was "in God we trust."

But I'm pretty jaded any more, and not a whole lot even surprises me these days. Dumbasses.

They might as well. :shrug:

None of the jobs bills they passed will get voted on in the democratly controlled senate

BOP
11-06-2011, 09:44 AM
They might as well. :shrug:

None of the jobs bills they passed will get voted on in the democratly controlled senate

Well, yeah, there would be that.

PsyOps
11-06-2011, 10:09 AM
"What is troubling — and should trouble any enlightened citizen of a modern nation such as ours — is the implication that in this age of science and technology, computers and cyberspace, and liberal democracies securing rights and freedoms for oppressed peoples all over the globe, that anyone could still hold to the belief that religion has a monopoly on morality and that the foundation of trust is based on engraving four words on brick and paper."

And what I find troubling is that we live in a country that was founded on religious freedom and Americans have become more detached from the fact that the constant effort to remove the mention of God in our public square is directly proportional to the moral decline of this country.

dck4shrt
11-06-2011, 12:24 PM
And what I find troubling is that we live in a country that was founded on religious freedom and Americans have become more detached from the fact that the constant effort to remove the mention of God in our public square is directly proportional to the moral decline of this country.

Correlation does not imply causation.

PsyOps
11-06-2011, 01:25 PM
Correlation does not imply causation.

And there you go... more denial.

Fairmount
11-06-2011, 01:43 PM
"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan:patriot:

dck4shrt
11-06-2011, 06:56 PM
And there you go... more denial.

And there you go...more logical fallacies.


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