I maintain it absolutely did.

Before MTV, each and every song you ever heard was YOURS as much as it was the artist. What you 'heard' what you felt, how you took the lyrics, the context you associated the music with, time, place, meaning. I contend that that meant that music needed to be GOOD to connect with listeners and, further, I contend music was MUCH more unifying before video. We had less genres and far more of what we would later think of as 'cross over' where a harder rock person would be exposed to and enjoy, say, Seals and Croft and vice versa. Certainly, people have had and would still have preference but, it would not be as distinctly categorized as it is now. I could listen to Sly and the Family Stone, Simon and Garfunkel, Procal Harum, Cream and Grand Funk Railroad and enjoy them all and be, at least, familiar, with them all; a common culture with many different flavors.

A contemporary contends she loves the video age in order to fully appreciate what the artist wants to convey. I get that but, I still prefer that a song used to belong to me and me alone one one level, all of us on another as the artist and they got to keep it all as private or public as they like.

Thoughts?

:popcorn:

If the video doesn't help me appreciate the song, I ignore it. I rarely ever see music videos, and I still find music I like all the time.

Who can hear "Money For Nothing" without picturing those two cartoon workmen?

I don't really think of video as a means to understand the artist's message - who cares what those dummies have to say or why? It's more like a little movie with a soundtrack, pure entertainment, and nothing more. And then sometimes, like with "#### You" or "Business Time", the video IS the song and completely pulls it together to tell a story. But that's rare. Most videos are vanity pieces that really don't add to the song.

Who can hear "Money For Nothing" without picturing those two cartoon workmen?

I don't really think of video as a means to understand the artist's message - who cares what those dummies have to say or why? It's more like a little movie with a soundtrack, pure entertainment, and nothing more. And then sometimes, like with "#### You" or "Business Time", the video IS the song and completely pulls it together to tell a story. But that's rare. Most videos are vanity pieces that really don't add to the song.

I really like a lot of Lady Gaga music/songs. But after seeing Bad Romance, I'm totally not watching her videos anymore! :disturbinnnngggg:

I really like a lot of Lady Gaga music/songs. But after seeing Bad Romance, I'm totally not watching her videos anymore! :disturbinnnngggg:

Tilted and you should start a fan forum.








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Who can hear "Money For Nothing" without picturing those two cartoon workmen?

I don't really think of video as a means to understand the artist's message - who cares what those dummies have to say or why? It's more like a little movie with a soundtrack, pure entertainment, and nothing more. And then sometimes, like with "#### You" or "Business Time", the video IS the song and completely pulls it together to tell a story. But that's rare. Most videos are vanity pieces that really don't add to the song.

Ya know, Dire Straits has been one of my all time favorites. But Money for Nothing has grated on my nerves from day one. Same with Roundabout by Yes.

:cds:

Ya know, Dire Straits has been one of my all time favorites. But Money for Nothing has grated on my nerves from day one. Same with Roundabout by Yes.

:cds:

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. :shrug:

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. :shrug:

She's still asleep upstairs.

Tilted and you should start a fan forum.








:dye:

:lmao: Tilted needs to come out of hiding to a forum gathering! :yay:

Ya know, Dire Straits has been one of my all time favorites. But Money for Nothing has grated on my nerves from day one. Same with Roundabout by Yes.

:cds:

Do you dislike Money because of the vid? If so, imagine Sultans of Swing with the cartoon track from Money! I'll wait for your response before commenting further.

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. :shrug:

She's still asleep upstairs.

:roflmao:

She's still asleep upstairs.

:love:

Do you dislike Money because of the vid? If so, imagine Sultans of Swing with the cartoon track from Money! I'll wait for your response before commenting further.

I don't think I have seen either video. I just didn't like it over the radio, therefore, I don't think the video has anything to do with my dislike. :shrug:

I don't think I have seen either video. I just didn't like it over the radio, therefore, I don't think the video has anything to do with my dislike. :shrug:

Well, there goes another perfectly good theory...

:lol:

Well, there goes another perfectly good theory...

:lol:

Stop thinking. It isn't making you look very good right now. :neener:

I have not seen a music Video since Gretchen Wilson : Redneck Woman


and before that it my watching videos had been measured in decades


Wil Smith : Men in Black: KSRF3slguhI


Redneck Woman : 82dDnv9zeLs&ob=av2e

then this ditty, because I enjoy 'Justified' so much

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Stop thinking. It isn't making you look very good right now. :neener:

I've never let that even slow me down before...

But it's all about

the sights,

the sounds &

the smells !

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I've never let that even slow me down before...

True. :lol:

:TANGENT ALERT!!:

What makes music? I love Jimmy Buffett's music. The songs he writes, and records from other writers, is what makes it appealing to me. Over synthed, auto tuned music may be catchy to some but if the lyrics don't tell a story then eff it.

SO, if anybody can expand my musical horizons with newer artists with good songs, then holla.

I have heard and like:
The Decemberists
Avett Brothers
Mumford & Sons
Dawes (Jackson Browne type of sound)

I have heard and like:
The Decemberists
Avett Brothers
Mumford & Sons
Dawes (Jackson Browne type of sound)

Florence and the Machine
Modest Mouse

Let me think of a few more...

internet killed the radio star

Modest Mouse

:smoochy:

Traditional instruments are a plus. Be they congas, or banjoes.

:smoochy:

MGMT, too. :lol:

Just cranked up the classic indie station on Pandora. :dance: :buddies:

Traditional instruments are a plus. Be they congas, or banjoes.

AC/DC has bag pipes. :lol:

Noah and the Whale is another good one.

Dawes (Jackson Browne/Warren Zevon RIP)
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MGMT, too. :lol:

Just cranked up the classic indie station on Pandora. :dance: :buddies:

If you like Mouse and don't know Bright Eyes (Conor Oberst)...you need to... Awesome lyricist/songwriter....:buddies:

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If you like Mouse and don't know Bright Eyes (Conor Oberst)...you need to... Awesome lyricist/songwriter....:buddies:

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:yay:

If you like Mouse and don't know Bright Eyes (Conor Oberst)...you need to... Awesome lyricist/songwriter....:buddies:

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Bright eyes :smoochy:


Yeah yeah yeahs also make me swoon. Karen o is something.

Gotye- Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra)- official film clip (HD) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY)

:TANGENT ALERT!!:

What makes music?

That's not a tangent; it is the heart of the matter.

"Making" music is a note, or series of notes on an instrument be it percussion or strings or brass or voice or what have you. Timing, tone, pitch, ENDLESS creativity, all are parts of it. Then, there is this IMMENSE other side of the equation; what the listener hears and feels.

As varied as we all are as individuals, our tastes, our feelings, our perspectives, backgrounds, experiences, preferences, biases, everything that makes us up, THAT is where the pure joy of music lies, that imperative individuality. THAT is what makes it so special and so powerful and so important in our lives and video holds the enormous danger of diluting and marginalizing what an individual MAY have gotten from a given piece had they not been 'shown' what they are supposed to 'hear'.

I am a music snob. I live in a little metal bubble and make yourself look like an ass when I make fun of people who have an appreciations for more than head bangers music. That said, even within my metal bubble, what I 'hear' and feel and see in a given song is TOTALLY different than what folks I've been listening to given songs to for DECADES take away very different experiences.

It is that uniqueness that, to me, makes music so special. Not the packaging and lowest common denominator race to the bottom that tells us what we are to hear and feel and see.

:buddies: