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Misfit
01-03-2012, 10:16 AM
Girl 'sacrificed for a better harvest' - Yahoo!7 (http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/12479068/girl-sacrificed-for-better-harvest)


Police in India say they have arrested two people who are suspected of sacrificing a child.

It's believed the girl was murdered and her liver was offered to gods to improve crop growth.

Police chief Narayan Das told AFP: "A seven-year-old girl was sacrificed by two persons superstitiously believing that the act would give a better harvest."

Lalita Tati's body was found in October one week after her family reported her missing.

The girl was from the jungle district of Chhattisgarh, an area dominated by rebel Maoists.

Human sacrifices occasionally occur in poor areas where local people revere black magic superstitions. Victims are often killed by witchdoctors to appease spirits or deities.

There were two child sacrifices reported in the same area in 2010.

Police say they are looking for others who may be involved in the killing of the girl.

vraiblonde
01-03-2012, 10:20 AM
"A seven-year-old girl was sacrificed by two persons superstitiously believing that the act would give a better harvest."

Maybe it does.

VoteJP
01-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Girl 'sacrificed for a better harvest' - Yahoo!7 (http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/12479068/girl-sacrificed-for-better-harvest)

Police in India say they have arrested two people who are suspected of sacrificing a child.

It's believed the girl was murdered and her liver was offered to gods to improve crop growth.

Police chief Narayan Das told AFP: "A seven-year-old girl was sacrificed by two persons superstitiously believing that the act would give a better harvest."

Lalita Tati's body was found in October one week after her family reported her missing.

The girl was from the jungle district of Chhattisgarh, an area dominated by rebel Maoists.

Human sacrifices occasionally occur in poor areas where local people revere black magic superstitions. Victims are often killed by witchdoctors to appease spirits or deities.

There were two child sacrifices reported in the same area in 2010.

Police say they are looking for others who may be involved in the killing of the girl.


It is totally possible that the so-called News report is exaggerated or dramatized or even complete nonsense.

If there really was such a girl killed then it was probably for far more understandable reasons, and the claim of a "sacrifice" is probably a cover up of the reality.

Of course Westerners and Christians are more inclined to believe such tales since it is said that Jesus Christ had to be brutally murdered as a sacrifice for the betterment of humanity.

So even if some people do believe that "Maybe it does" work to sacrifice innocent people, then maybe those who believe such things are wrong.

:whistle:

PsyOps
01-03-2012, 12:18 PM
It is totally possible that the so-called News report is exaggerated or dramatized or even complete nonsense.

If there really was such a girl killed then it was probably for far more understandable reasons, and the claim of a "sacrifice" is probably a cover up of the reality.

Of course Westerners and Christians are more inclined to believe such tales since it is said that Jesus Christ had to be brutally murdered as a sacrifice for the betterment of humanity.

So even if some people do believe that "Maybe it does" work to sacrifice innocent people, then maybe those who believe such things are wrong.

:whistle:

:dork:

vraiblonde
01-03-2012, 12:34 PM
It is totally possible that the so-called News report is exaggerated or dramatized or even complete nonsense.

What?? A news report being exaggerated and dramatized? Perhaps complete nonsense???

Say it isn't so! :faint:

aps45819
01-03-2012, 01:14 PM
If there really was such a girl killed then it was probably for far more understandable reasons.

Please list the understandable reasons for murdering a child

vraiblonde
01-03-2012, 01:17 PM
Please list the understandable reasons for murdering a child

:lol: Wish I'd caught that.

smibarines
01-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Please list the understandable reasons for murdering a child

Well, for instance...if said child was the spawn of J.P. Cusick (D)...

Merlin99
01-03-2012, 02:38 PM
Please list the understandable reasons for murdering a child
Veal for cannibals.

VoteJP
01-03-2012, 02:48 PM
Please list the understandable reasons for murdering a child


Things like the child may have died by an accident, or that some one killed the child out of malice, or even a suicide, or some reason other then claiming it was based on a religion or that it was such a "sacrifice" as that sounds like a would-be excuse.

Just because some act of violence is understandable then that does not mean to make it as right to do, and when such things appear as being NOT understandable then it is likely not true.

:howdy:

Katelin
01-03-2012, 02:54 PM
..well there are countries and cultures that kill girl babies because the child is not wanted. A boy baby has much more value, and are wanted.


But as far as killing a girl child (virgin, pure) in India, to get better crops is part of someof the cultures..
Heck, this is a country where people worshop cows, let them wander and eat any and everthing...and they leave offerings to rats at temples.....dump the remains of bodies into their rivers...so why would anyone be shocked by the belief of a sacrifice to better the crop output?

aps45819
01-03-2012, 03:03 PM
Things like the child may have died by an accident, or that some one killed the child out of malice, or even a suicide, or some reason other then claiming it was based on a religion or that it was such a "sacrifice" as that sounds like a would-be excuse.

Just because some act of violence is understandable then that does not mean to make it as right to do, and when such things appear as being NOT understandable then it is likely not true.

:howdy:

How do you feel about abandoning a child and leaving them to die?


:doh: Oh wait, we all know you're OK with that

VoteJP
01-03-2012, 03:21 PM
..well there are countries and cultures that kill girl babies because the child is not wanted. A boy baby has much more value, and are wanted.


That is understandable as it does make sense, and of course it is horrible and disgusting too.

Here in the USA we have millions of abortions every year where we kill babies regardless of whether they are boy or girl, except we do not call ours as a sacrifice.



But as far as killing a girl child (virgin, pure) in India, to get better crops is part of some of the cultures..
Heck, this is a country where people worship cows, let them wander and eat any and everything...and they leave offerings to rats at temples.....dump the remains of bodies into their rivers...so why would anyone be shocked by the belief of a sacrifice to better the crop output?


Killing a child is NOT a part of any religion in India, and there is no record that there ever was such a thing.

And it is true that the Hindus hold the cows in high esteem, and feed rats at temples, and dispose of dead bodies in the Holy rivers, but most of that is based on their beliefs in nonviolence and of all life being regarded as sacred.

In India they have a huge population because they are pro-life and do not kill children as sacrifices.

You make a mistake by believing the raunchy claims of the opening post instead of being rightly shocked by it.

Katelin
01-03-2012, 03:31 PM
That is understandable as it does make sense, and of course it is horrible and disgusting too.

Here in the USA we have millions of abortions every year where we kill babies regardless of whether they are boy or girl, except we do not call ours as a sacrifice.



Killing a child is NOT a part of any religion in India, and there is no record that there ever was such a thing.

And it is true that the Hindus hold the cows in high esteem, and feed rats at temples, and dispose of dead bodies in the Holy rivers, but most of that is based on their beliefs in nonviolence and of all life being regarded as sacred.

In India they have a huge population because they are pro-life and do not kill children as sacrifices.

You make a mistake by believing the raunchy claims of the opening post instead of being rightly shocked by it.

How about reading my entire post before bashing it....

I said, what do you expect (the sacrifice of a girl baby) in a country that does all that other stuff..that vlues the life of a cow over a human?

Cultures, sub-cultures DO sacrifice babies..go check Nat. Geo. It is better to sacrifice than suffer the wrath from angry gods, per your village "priest".

Many cultures fear any kind of modern technology...modern thinking...and do as their shamans tell them!

VoteJP
01-03-2012, 06:38 PM
How about reading my entire post before bashing it....

I said, what do you expect (the sacrifice of a girl baby) in a country that does all that other stuff..that values the life of a cow over a human?

Cultures, sub-cultures DO sacrifice babies..go check Nat. Geo. It is better to sacrifice than suffer the wrath from angry gods, per your village "priest".

Many cultures fear any kind of modern technology...modern thinking...and do as their shamans tell them!


I did read your entire post and nothing was left out.

The Hindu are not valuing the life of a cow over that of humans, and your claim of that is wrong.

The fact that we in this culture brutally massacre animals and feed on their carcasses without any regard for the inhumanity being done is our problem here.

And there are no cultures today anywhere in the entire world that make human sacrifices - none.

In history the ancient Greeks and Hebrews and American Indians did do human sacrificing, but no such thing in the culture of India has ever been known to be done.

As to fearing "modern technology" and "modern thinking" then we all have right to fear that stuff.

kwillia
01-03-2012, 06:43 PM
And there are no cultures today anywhere in the entire world that make human sacrifices - none.

In history the ancient Greeks and Hebrews and American Indians did do human sacrificing, but no such thing in the culture of India has ever been known to be done.
Your assumptions are wrong. Might I suggest you do some research on the subject?

Merlin99
01-03-2012, 07:49 PM
Your assumptions are wrong. Might I suggest you do some research on the subject?
Pretty well written article.
For the magic to work, the killing had to be done just right. If the goddess were to grant Khudu Karmakar the awesome powers he expected from a virgin's death, the victim had to be willing, had to know what was happening, watch the knife, and not stop it. But even tranquilizers couldn't lull 15-year-old Manju Kumari to her fate. In his police confession, Karmakar says his wife, daughter and three accomplices had to gag Manju and pin her down on the earthen floor before the shrine. In ritual order, Karmakar wafted incense over her, tore off her blue skirt and pink T shirt, shaved her, sprinkled her with holy water from the Ganges and rubbed her with cooking fat. Then chanting mantras to the "mother" goddess Kali, he sawed off Manju's hands, breasts and left foot, placing the body parts in front of a photograph of a blood-soaked Kali idol. Police say the arcs of blood on the walls suggest Manju bled to death in minutes.

Killing for Kali: Hinduism's cult fringe - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,322673,00.html)

PrepH4U
01-03-2012, 08:09 PM
That is understandable as it does make sense, and of course it is horrible and disgusting too.

Here in the USA we have millions of abortions every year where we kill babies regardless of whether they are boy or girl, except we do not call ours as a sacrifice.



Killing a child is NOT a part of any religion in India, and there is no record that there ever was such a thing.

And it is true that the Hindus hold the cows in high esteem, and feed rats at temples, and dispose of dead bodies in the Holy rivers, but most of that is based on their beliefs in nonviolence and of all life being regarded as sacred.

In India they have a huge population because they are pro-life and do not kill children as sacrifices.You make a mistake by believing the raunchy claims of the opening post instead of being rightly shocked by it.

You are right why would they offer their children as a sacrifice when they could make money by selling them into child slavery or prostitution. :whistle: Take your blinders off!

VoteJP
01-04-2012, 10:35 AM
You are right why would they offer their children as a sacrifice when they could make money by selling them into child slavery or prostitution. :whistle: Take your blinders off!


I go along with this - in that it does not need to be called as a "human sacrifice" in order to be one.

As like abortions are sin sacrifices, and even the Drone aircraft bombing innocent Muslims is human sacrifices to American self righteousness.

But just sticking with religion then it is only Christianity that truly preaches human sacrifice as some religious value.

As like the cheering on of Abraham sacrificing his son Isaac, and claiming that Jesus being brutally murdered on the cross was a righteous thing which it was not, and Christians simply do not call it as a "sacrifice" when they burn people at the stake or cut off their heads or the most popular Christian sacrifice of hanging those they hate.

That is what gets to me when the Americans and Christians claim that the nonviolent religion of Hinduism is claimed to be killing innocent people while it is our own society which needs to learn better from those Hindu people who preach and practice nonviolence.

Gilligan
01-04-2012, 10:40 AM
Well, for instance...if said child was the spawn of J.P. Cusick (D)...

:killingme:killingme

PsyOps
01-04-2012, 12:01 PM
Is anyone really taking this conversation seriously?


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