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Misfit
01-18-2012, 07:40 AM
CDC: 1 in 3 adults is obese | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/01/17/cdc-1-in-3-adults-is-obese/?test=latestnews)
One in every three adults and one in every six children in the United States is obese, according to the latest figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
These statistics, based on data from the 2009-2010 National Health and Nutrition Examination, show little change compared to 12 years ago, although there have been increases in certain demographics, researchers said.
“There was an increase in males overall, especially adult males,” Dr. Cynthia Ogden, an epidemiologist and branch chief at the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics, told FoxNews.com. Ogden led the study along with Dr. Katherine Flegal, senior research scientist, and other colleagues at the CDC in Hyattsville, Md.
“It’s important to track obesity, because we know that it’s related to certain types of cancer, type 2 diabetes and heart disease,” Ogden said. “It really is linked to many chronic health conditions in adults.”
Monitoring children is also important because “obese children often track to be obese adults,” she added.
According to the survey, the average body mass index (BMI) for men and women in the U.S. is 28.7. A BMI of 25 or greater is considered overweight, while a BMI of 30 or greater is considered obese.
The prevalence of people classified as overweight or obese is 68.8 percent of the population overall – 73.9 percent of men are overweight or obese, while 63.7 percent of women are. The prevalence of obesity in children is approximately 17 percent.
“The good news is the prevalence hasn’t gone up – but it also hasn’t gone down,” Ogden said. “And the prevalence of obesity in men has caught up to women. Obesity used to be more prevalent among women [12 years ago].”
The study will be published in the Journal of American Medical Association. It was released online in advance due to its “public health importance,” the researchers said.
my-thyme
01-18-2012, 08:04 AM
And I just took two dozen cupcakes out of the oven :yahoo:
vraiblonde
01-18-2012, 08:44 AM
I do not believe that statistic.
Cheeky1
01-18-2012, 08:58 AM
They arrived at those conclusions based solely upon those who decided to participate in the survey.
In my office, 30ish people....only 4 are overweight and one of those is obese. The conclusion is already false based upon one real life situation.
Also, I don't perceive unsightliness to mean overweight, but I am sure there are those among us that do.
libertytyranny
01-18-2012, 09:10 AM
I believe it :shrug:
We have lost perception of what is actually a normal weight because we are surrounded by fattys. Now, I do have problems with the BMI scale because it doesn't take into account anything other than height and weight..some VERY fit people could technically be "overweight" because they are muscular and large. But I don't see anyone be able to register as "obese" on the scale unless they are. That's why there is a range. I look and feel best when I am ont he upper end of "normal" for my height. I am built in such a way that precludes me from ever being super skinny. A better indicator would maybe be body fat percentage..actual weight can be tied to several things.
Either way, just looking around our area it is very obvious that we have a weight problem in the country. If you look at someone who is very fit, it is glaringly obvious that the people around them aren't. We have renamed sizes, re-done seats in restaurants and airplanes, and launched stores devoted to overweight people. This is all indicative of a fairly serious problem. And I have seen the damage excess weight can do to a person..it can literally kill them.
royhobie
01-18-2012, 09:12 AM
I do not believe that statistic.
I've been to most of our schools in St. Mary's County. By observation, I would say 1 out of 3 kids have some type of obesity. And 1 out of 7 appeared to be severe. As for the adults, I don't know. Ironically, Dr. Martirano wrote an article in last Friday's Enterprise that the County School system complies with the Federal and State standards on nutrition. What he didn't say is that the President's Counsel on Physical Fitness lead by President Obama's wife is spearheading the change in the nutrition standards since it is the belief of the White House that the standards are low. Based on what the lunch menu provided, "and then what kids actually eat", I would agree. Plus, at any given High School, soda and snack machines are readily available.
If the Board of Education really did have a concern for obesity in children, then he probably should remove these snack macihines. And as mentioned in the post, it's not just children. Young adults are especially hard hit. I saw a young women (adult) at Linda's cafe the other day. She wasn't pregnant which was my first though. She was just plain fat. Not to pick on women though. Men have no escape from obesity either. Maybe the "Jackie Russell" Three Notch Trail will do us all good. As for the obesity in schools I mentioned, I have asked Dr. Martirano for years to have more healthier food in our schools. I honestly believe he is making an attempt. And for that, I have to give him credit. However, new standards will be pushed on the States by the Federal Government in the near future. Where our schools will be in the new standards, will probably be some where in the middle.
vraiblonde
01-18-2012, 09:22 AM
We have lost perception of what is actually a normal weight because we are surrounded by fattys.
And I think just the opposite - our pop culture has inundated us with emaciated women, so we've lost perception of what is actually a normal body. Throughout history, what we consider plumpness was desirable - you look at art and none of the female subjects were slender. Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, Rita Hayworth - they would all be considered "fat" by today's standards. The slim Kate Hepburn, on the other hand, was not considered pinup material. She was considered boyish.
But this latest CDC pronouncement is just another example of government overstepping its bounds. Fat people already know they're fat, and they either try to lose weight or it doesn't bother them. And if it doesn't bother them, it shouldn't bother the government.
libertytyranny
01-18-2012, 09:23 AM
I've been to most of our schools in St. Mary's County. By observation, I would say 1 out of 3 kids have some type of obesity. And 1 out of 7 appeared to be severe. As for the adults, I don't know. Ironically, Dr. Martirano wrote an article in last Friday's Enterprise that the County School system complies with the Federal and State standards on nutrition. What he didn't say is that the President's Counsel on Physical Fitness lead by President Obama's wife is spearheading the change in the nutrition standards since it is the belief of the White House that the standards are low. Based on what the lunch menu provided, "and then what kids actually eat", I would agree. Plus, at any given High School, soda and snack machines are readily available.
If the Board of Education really did have a concern for obesity in children, then he probably should remove these snack macihines. And as mentioned in the post, it's not just children. Young adults are especially hard hit. I saw a young women (adult) at Linda's cafe the other day. She wasn't pregnant which was my first though. She was just plain fat. Not to pick on women though. Men have no escape from obesity either. Maybe the "Jackie Russell" Three Notch Trail will do us all good. As for the obesity in schools I mentioned, I have asked Dr. Martirano for years to have more healthier food in our schools. I honestly believe he is making an attempt. And for that, I have to give him credit. However, new standards will be pushed on the States by the Federal Government in the near future. Where our schools will be in the new standards, will probably be some where in the middle.
School lunch DOES NOT make children fat. Their parents do. End of story. Snack machines and soda machines do not make kids fat, their parents do. They have already shown in several states that removing machines froms chools DO NOT I repeat agains DO NOT affect the amount of those foods that children take in. Not a bit. They just continue to eat junk at home which is what got them fat in the first place. You can make them eat celery sticks and lemon water for lunch everyday and the same kids will be fat..because they go home and sit on their ass in front of the tv/video game and eat fast food and junk. The one meal a day is not affecting them a bit.
Until we stop dicking around about making school lunches adhere to this standard or that standard or more whole grain or blah blah blah and realize that parenting and ignorance that makes kids fat..nothing is going to happen. Not a damn thing.
libertytyranny
01-18-2012, 09:43 AM
And I think just the opposite - our pop culture has inundated us with emaciated women, so we've lost perception of what is actually a normal body. Throughout history, what we consider plumpness was desirable - you look at art and none of the female subjects were slender. Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, Rita Hayworth - they would all be considered "fat" by today's standards. The slim Kate Hepburn, on the other hand, was not considered pinup material. She was considered boyish.
But this latest CDC pronouncement is just another example of government overstepping its bounds. Fat people already know they're fat, and they either try to lose weight or it doesn't bother them. And if it doesn't bother them, it shouldn't bother the government.
I don't think they would be considered fat..everyone makes a big deal about marilyn monroe being a size 14 or something..but in todays sizes it would be much smaller and at nearly 5'6 that's actually a very fit body. ( I used to have MM's exact measurements..but a certain baby decided to blow that out of the water :frown: and I wore a 5/7/8 depending on the brand, which shows how much they vary)
regardless..when we have places having to refit their seating and equipment there is def a problem..at hospitals we are seeing people who have reached such weights that were NEVER heard of, even in recent history. When I was a cna, most of my patients used a Large BP cuff..rather than the "regular" one that used to be the staple..now I realize in a hospital you are more likely to have overweight people, but for sure there's a problem.
Of course, I don't think the governement should have to do anything about it, mind you. fattys will be fattys. its up to them to make the change and be healthier..but if we start having to pay for their healthcare....:coffee:
warneckutz
01-18-2012, 09:51 AM
I believe it :shrug:
:yeahthat:
vraiblonde
01-18-2012, 10:53 AM
I don't think they would be considered fat..
Sure they would. They look fat in their movies, compared with today's female stars. Look at the one poster of Rita Hayworth and tell me she doesn't have some thunder thighs going on. In MM's swimsuit photos, she's quite fat by today's standards. Hell, she has a stomach roll.
BadGirl
01-18-2012, 11:04 AM
Sure they would. They look fat in their movies, compared with today's female stars. Look at the one poster of Rita Hayworth and tell me she doesn't have some thunder thighs going on. In MM's swimsuit photos, she's quite fat by today's standards. Hell, she has a stomach roll.Somach rolls are the new six pack. :yay:
I'm working on two six packs right now. :twinkie:
Misfit
01-18-2012, 11:13 AM
I used to have MM's exact measurements..
So you could be Southern Maryland Monroe? I found you an MPD!
pixiegirl
01-18-2012, 11:45 AM
And I think just the opposite - our pop culture has inundated us with emaciated women, so we've lost perception of what is actually a normal body. Throughout history, what we consider plumpness was desirable - you look at art and none of the female subjects were slender. Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, Rita Hayworth - they would all be considered "fat" by today's standards. The slim Kate Hepburn, on the other hand, was not considered pinup material. She was considered boyish.
But this latest CDC pronouncement is just another example of government overstepping its bounds. Fat people already know they're fat, and they either try to lose weight or it doesn't bother them. And if it doesn't bother them, it shouldn't bother the government.
Jayne Mansfield had big boobs but was fairly lean otherwise.
I consider half the women in my office to be overweight (at least 15-20lbs), one bordering on obese.
You're correct though, they try to change or they don't. I don't agree that it doesn't bother them if they don't try to lose the weight. I work with a girl who daily harps about how fat she is though she'll be the first one in line downstairs for chicken fried steak. Kids, I feel for. I grew up eating total crap all the time it was purely good genetics somewhere down the line that kept me slim. Kids don't have a choice in what kind of food is in the house.
SoMD_Fun_Guy
01-18-2012, 12:10 PM
Jayne Mansfield had big boobs but was fairly lean otherwise.
I consider half the women in my office to be overweight (at least 15-20lbs), one bordering on obese.
You're correct though, they try to change or they don't. I don't agree that it doesn't bother them if they don't try to lose the weight. I work with a girl who daily harps about how fat she is though she'll be the first one in line downstairs for chicken fried steak. Kids, I feel for. I grew up eating total crap all the time it was purely good genetics somewhere down the line that kept me slim. Kids don't have a choice in what kind of food is in the house.
I agree, some people are lucky to have good genes and maintain a high metabolism. I suppose others are unlucky to have bad genes. But many just have a lazy lifestyle and bring it on to themselves.
Ok, it's lunch time - I need to go pig out on some food. :lmao:
vraiblonde
01-18-2012, 12:19 PM
Kids, I feel for.
How many of the kids in your sons' classes would you consider obese - one third of them?
That's a real question because I wouldn't consider any of these squabs I see on the playground and running around the neighborhood even overweight, let alone obese.
libertytyranny
01-18-2012, 12:22 PM
How many of the kids in your sons' classes would you consider obese - one third of them?
That's a real question because I wouldn't consider any of these squabs I see on the playground and running around the neighborhood even overweight, let alone obese.
that depends on the neighborhood, for sure.
Lower income children are much more likely to be obese. But they are starving and need more food stamps and extra meals at school :coffee:
Misfit
01-18-2012, 01:11 PM
So you could be Southern Maryland Monroe? I found you an MPD!
No one appreciates me. :bawl:
pixiegirl
01-18-2012, 07:08 PM
How many of the kids in your sons' classes would you consider obese - one third of them?
That's a real question because I wouldn't consider any of these squabs I see on the playground and running around the neighborhood even overweight, let alone obese.
The article says one in six kids... I'd definitely say from what I've seen there are definitely a couple fat kids in both of their classes.
And I think just the opposite - our pop culture has inundated us with emaciated women, so we've lost perception of what is actually a normal body. Throughout history, what we consider plumpness was desirable - you look at art and none of the female subjects were slender. Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, Rita Hayworth - they would all be considered "fat" by today's standards. The slim Kate Hepburn, on the other hand, was not considered pinup material. She was considered boyish.
But this latest CDC pronouncement is just another example of government overstepping its bounds. Fat people already know they're fat, and they either try to lose weight or it doesn't bother them. And if it doesn't bother them, it shouldn't bother the government.
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vraiblonde
01-23-2012, 09:51 PM
84496
:lol: I saw that on your wall and was running over here to post it.
:lol: I saw that on your wall and was running over here to post it.
:lmao:
GMTA!
SoMD_Fun_Guy
01-24-2012, 03:03 PM
84496
I don't agree with that pic. I really don't think that the toothpick girls of today are hotter than the sex symbols of the past. Personally, I don't want to be dating a skeleton.
libertytyranny
01-24-2012, 03:07 PM
I don't agree with that pic. I really don't think that the toothpick girls of today are hotter than the sex symbols of the past. Personally, I don't want to be dating a skeleton.
Most hetero men don't. The nasty skinny ideal was designed and propogated by those that control the fashion industry..gay men. They like the look of women with the body of young man and despise natural womanly curves. Hence, that's what touted as the ideal..however it has been my absolute experience that men prefer womanly and curvy over stick. Young girls just haven't figured that out just yet, that's why they aspire to it.
vraiblonde
01-24-2012, 03:10 PM
I don't agree with that pic. I really don't think that the toothpick girls of today are hotter than the sex symbols of the past. Personally, I don't want to be dating a skeleton.
You don't, but Johnny Depp - heartthrob of the female masses - loves painfully emaciated women. That's all you ever see him with. And I think I can speak for most of us ladies when I say that Johnny's idea of beauty means more than yours. :lol:
vraiblonde
01-24-2012, 03:16 PM
Most hetero men don't. The nasty skinny ideal was designed and propogated by those that control the fashion industry..gay men.
Stick women are natural clothes hangers, with no unsightly bumps to ruin the line of their outfit.
JFK, Jr was certainly not gay and his wife was one of the skinniest women ever. He also dated the extremely skinny Sarah Jessica Parker, and the only slightly less consumptive Daryl Hannah. Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly. Harrison Ford and Ally McBeal. Lots of famous hetero men love them some emaciated women.
You don't, but Johnny Depp - heartthrob of the female masses - loves painfully emaciated women. That's all you ever see him with. And I think I can speak for most of us ladies when I say that Johnny's idea of beauty means more than yours. :lol:
Winona Ryder :hot:
Nickel
01-24-2012, 03:21 PM
Stick women are natural clothes hangers, with no unsightly bumps to ruin the line of their outfit.
Yep. Gay men are not sexually attracted to their female models, thin or not. They choose them because they are walking clothes hangers that best show the flow and movement of the clothing.
cricketmd
01-24-2012, 03:29 PM
No one appreciates me. :bawl:
Aww!! I liked your play on words!
pixiegirl
01-24-2012, 03:32 PM
84496
I don't find any of the oldies fat by any means. While I agree that body standards have changed, I don't think that the requirements for being obese have.
Nickel
01-24-2012, 03:34 PM
I find this interesting and I know it's been discussed here before. It's considered taboo to rag on a woman for being a little chubby (not talking obese, just regular old overweight), but it's perfectly fine to bust on someone for being really thin (and again, I'm not talking extremes). It's the whole "real women have curves" thing. Well, not all women have curves and it doesn't mean they starved themselves to look that way. I mean, yeah the girls in that photo seem to be too thin and skew closer to the extreme end of things, but look at someone like Charlize Theron. She's not particularly curvy but she has an amazingly beautiful, healthy looking (albeit thin) body. Aren't we all a little old to be saying "All straight guys love curves"? And I say this as someone who spent most of her life naturally thin and was teased mercilessly for it. Fortunately for everyone involved, I grew out of that and have to watch what I eat like the rest of the fatties. Now I'm going to go eat a cookie.
pixiegirl
01-24-2012, 03:38 PM
I find this interesting and I know it's been discussed here before. It's considered taboo to rag on a woman for being a little chubby (not talking obese, just regular old overweight), but it's perfectly fine to bust on someone for being really thin (and again, I'm not talking extremes). It's the whole "real women have curves" thing. Well, not all women have curves and it doesn't mean they starved themselves to look that way. I mean, yeah the girls in that photo seem to be too thin and skew closer to the extreme end of things, but look at someone like Charlize Theron. She's not particularly curvy but she has an amazingly beautiful, healthy looking (albeit thin) body. Aren't we all a little old to be saying "All straight guys love curves"? And I say this as someone who spent most of her life naturally thin and was teased mercilessly for it. Fortunately for everyone involved, I grew out of that and have to watch what I eat like the rest of the fatties. Now I'm going to go eat a cookie.
I so love you and completely concur! :smoochy:
Nickel
01-24-2012, 03:44 PM
I so love you and completely concur! :smoochy:
I realized mid-post that you were the one that started a thread about it awhile back. :lol: :love:
libertytyranny
01-24-2012, 03:58 PM
I find this interesting and I know it's been discussed here before. It's considered taboo to rag on a woman for being a little chubby (not talking obese, just regular old overweight), but it's perfectly fine to bust on someone for being really thin (and again, I'm not talking extremes). It's the whole "real women have curves" thing. Well, not all women have curves and it doesn't mean they starved themselves to look that way. I mean, yeah the girls in that photo seem to be too thin and skew closer to the extreme end of things, but look at someone like Charlize Theron. She's not particularly curvy but she has an amazingly beautiful, healthy looking (albeit thin) body. Aren't we all a little old to be saying "All straight guys love curves"? And I say this as someone who spent most of her life naturally thin and was teased mercilessly for it. Fortunately for everyone involved, I grew out of that and have to watch what I eat like the rest of the fatties. Now I'm going to go eat a cookie.
I think there is a disagreement, though, about what curves means. I know several women who describe themselves as curvy, who are just fat. I hate to be mean like that but it's the truth. To me, curvy and womanly is not anorexic thin. There are naturally thin women (unfortunately my BFF is one of them, ugh) but there are very, very few women who are naturally as thin as those models without any help from restrictive eating or exercise. Curvy is used as a euphamism for chubby, but I don't use it that way. regardless, maybe I am running in the wrong circles (like, not with Johnny Depp, *sigh*) but I have only ever met one man (my cousin) who preferred stick thin. And frankly we all thought he was gay for like, ever. And I don't know if he actually DID like stick thin, or if his affinity for vietnamese women just led him there :killingme All the other men I have met have preferred T and A over bones.
and they are perfect clothes hangers is a crock. They are thin because that's the look they are going for, has nothing to do with the clothes themselves. If they were really that great of designers, they could make clothes look good on real bodies. But they don't care.
vraiblonde
01-24-2012, 04:08 PM
If they were really that great of designers, they could make clothes look good on real bodies. But they don't care.
Of course they don't care. It's about the clothes, not how women look in them. Haven't you ever been to a fashion show and seen some of the monstrosities these nuts come up with? Who wears that crap? Most of us are happy with jeans that fit and have no interest in haute couture.
I've known guys who prefer incredibly thin women, to the point that they have bony chests. One guy was an eating disorder Lothario and frankly admitted it. And I'm curious if most guys actually prefer women with meat on their bones, or if that's just what they're stuck with because they can't get Angelina Jolie?
Nickel
01-24-2012, 04:22 PM
I think there is a disagreement, though, about what curves means. I know several women who describe themselves as curvy, who are just fat. I hate to be mean like that but it's the truth. To me, curvy and womanly is not anorexic thin. There are naturally thin women (unfortunately my BFF is one of them, ugh) but there are very, very few women who are naturally as thin as those models without any help from restrictive eating or exercise. Curvy is used as a euphamism for chubby, but I don't use it that way. regardless, maybe I am running in the wrong circles (like, not with Johnny Depp, *sigh*) but I have only ever met one man (my cousin) who preferred stick thin. And frankly we all thought he was gay for like, ever. And I don't know if he actually DID like stick thin, or if his affinity for vietnamese women just led him there :killingme All the other men I have met have preferred T and A over bones.
and they are perfect clothes hangers is a crock. They are thin because that's the look they are going for, has nothing to do with the clothes themselves. If they were really that great of designers, they could make clothes look good on real bodies. But they don't care.
For argument's sake, I'm referring to curves as boobs/hips/butt. Hence Charlize Theron as an example - she has a very boyish figure but is still a sexy woman. Is she everyone's cup of tea? Nope, but neither is Kim Kardashian. Some men like curves, some men don't. Some men like women in general. Who gives a flip? I think you may have missed my point, as I specifically excluded super-thin women so I wasn't referring to skin and bones vs T&A. To use your earlier post, it was more about curvy vs stick, and my point was less about "what guys like" and more about how we, as women, view/judge other women based on their bodies. Why is it necessary to proclaim that men only like women with curves? How does that make the skinny girl feel? Is it then okay for her to say that men don't like cellulite on women's asses either? And I'm not likely to jump on board with your data collection when your only frame of reference is "all the guys you know". A lot of thin/non-curvy women are married or have no problems finding a man.
P.S. "A lot of those models" are in fact 14, 15, 16 year old girls.
SoMD_Fun_Guy
01-24-2012, 04:26 PM
Most hetero men don't. The nasty skinny ideal was designed and propogated by those that control the fashion industry..gay men. They like the look of women with the body of young man and despise natural womanly curves. Hence, that's what touted as the ideal..however it has been my absolute experience that men prefer womanly and curvy over stick. Young girls just haven't figured that out just yet, that's why they aspire to it.
Yes, I prefer a woman that is healthy and womanly (nice T&A is a plus :whistle:) - not an unhealthy stick figure or extremely overweight.
You don't, but Johnny Depp - heartthrob of the female masses - loves painfully emaciated women. That's all you ever see him with. And I think I can speak for most of us ladies when I say that Johnny's idea of beauty means more than yours. :lol:
Stick women are natural clothes hangers, with no unsightly bumps to ruin the line of their outfit.
JFK, Jr was certainly not gay and his wife was one of the skinniest women ever. He also dated the extremely skinny Sarah Jessica Parker, and the only slightly less consumptive Daryl Hannah. Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly. Harrison Ford and Ally McBeal. Lots of famous hetero men love them some emaciated women.
Vrai, I understand how some famous men choose thin women, but not all do. I respectfully disagree with you on this premise and I honestly don't believe that some movie star (or public figure or fashion industry) should determine how any person (woman or man) should look. Most of the women you mentioned are very thin, to the point of being unhealthy. It's sad that kids and young adults are hurting their bodies trying to conform to some unrealistic image. How many kids are picked on because they don't fit the right image? It hurts their self esteem and can eventually lead to suicide. Why? Cuz someone doesn't fit the hollywood mold? It's BS. Young girls/women need to realize that those "unsightly bumps" are considered sexy to many, many men.
As for you speaking for most ladies when you say that Johnny Depp's idea of beauty means more than mine. Well, everyone has their own opinion and maybe most women think they have to fit Johnny's ideal - but then again maybe not.
I will say this though, I'd rather be with a woman that cares what my idea of beauty is and not Johnny's. If a woman doesn't care what I think, then she can go have fun trying to impress Mr Depp. I'll wish her the best of luck and move on to someone else.
Ok, I must be the only female in the tread who does NOT like Johnny Depp and does not think he's :hot:
Nickel
01-24-2012, 08:11 PM
Ok, I must be the only female in the tread who does NOT like Johnny Depp and does not think he's :hot:
I like Johnny Depp just fine, but I don't find him particularly attractive. If he showered regularly and cut his hair...maybe. Probably not though. I do think he's a great actor and I love his movies.
pixiegirl
01-25-2012, 08:27 AM
I like Johnny Depp just fine, but I don't find him particularly attractive. If he showered regularly and cut his hair...maybe. Probably not though. I do think he's a great actor and I love his movies.
I think he's ok, nothing to write home about. Most women wouldn't like him in real life if he wasn't Johnny Depp. If some guy that looked just like him approached them in a bar they'd be running the other direction.
Super models are by no means considered "sex symbols" either. Playboy models are the modern day Marylins, and Bettys. So the comparrison wasn't even fair to begin with.
I think he's ok, nothing to write home about. Most women wouldn't like him in real life if he wasn't Johnny Depp. If some guy that looked just like him approached them in a bar they'd be running the other direction.
I am looking for a slightly goofy older guy, say 46 - 48, it would be great if he was slightly chubby, blonde, and about 6' tall.
:hot:
Misfit
01-25-2012, 08:40 AM
Playboy models are the modern day Marylins, and Bettys
Betty Boop? Nice body...big head.
SoMD_Fun_Guy
01-25-2012, 09:39 AM
Betty Boop? Nice body...big head.
:killingme
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