Damn... And I liked this guy.. Why does he have to get all political, it's your hockey club for christ sake!

Barack Obama honors Stanley Cup champion Boston Bruins; Tim Thomas a no-show - ESPN Boston (http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story/_/id/7493826/barack-obama-honors-stanley-cup-champion-boston-bruins-tim-thomas-no-show)

In reading your linked article, it seems as though he believes some things very strongly.

"I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.

This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.

Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.

This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic. TT"

(source: original post link here (http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story/_/id/7493826/barack-obama-honors-stanley-cup-champion-boston-bruins-tim-thomas-no-show))

Sounds like he is a man of principle and decided not to be a hypocrite. IMO, it sounds as though he lives by the old saying,

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."

He chose to stand for something. Personally, I admire the guy for by-passing a chance to meet the President of the US (at a purely publicity event, and possibly a once in a lifetime event) in order to stand on a principle. :shrug:

In reading your linked article, it seems as though he believes some things very strongly.


(source: original post link here (http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story/_/id/7493826/barack-obama-honors-stanley-cup-champion-boston-bruins-tim-thomas-no-show))

Sounds like he is a man of principle and decided not to be a hypocrite. IMO, it sounds as though he lives by the old saying,

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."

He chose to stand for something. Personally, I admire the guy for by-passing a chance to meet the President of the US (at a purely publicity event, and possibly a once in a lifetime event) in order to stand on a principle. :shrug:

Sure, I respect his beliefs, but they were there celebrating a championship... I mean, geez, how serious can you be! Loosen up and "take one for the team"...

Sure, I respect his beliefs, but they were there celebrating a championship... I mean, geez, how serious can you be! Loosen up and "take one for the team"...


Perhaps his beliefs and principles mean just a bit more to him than his job...

:shrug:

Perhaps his beliefs and principles mean just a bit more to him than his job...

:shrug:

obviously....

Sure, I respect his beliefs, but they were there celebrating a championship... I mean, geez, how serious can you be! Loosen up and "take one for the team"...

I disagree. They were ONLY celebrating a championship in a GAME. I tend to not like people taking these sorts of opportunities to make political statements. Thomas gets a pass because he is protesting BOTH parties.

And, with all the problems we have, is it a proper use of the Presidents time and government resources to do this? I think this is yet another symptom of the larger problems.

Good for Thomas.

I wouldn't go. Why would I want to go see a POTUS that I despise?
Now I didn't "despise" Clinton but I still wouldn't go see him.

I wouldn't go. Why would I want to go see a POTUS that I despise?
Now I didn't "despise" Clinton but I still wouldn't go see him.

But, you'd go see Bush 43, right? And that would be because your politics are personal and have nothing to do with results, yes?

And that's why Thomas gets a pass; for him, this isn't personal. You set aside personal issues for the greater good. If it is a principle, you don't set it aside.

:popcorn:

But, you'd go see Bush 43, right? And that would be because your politics are personal and have nothing to do with results, yes?

And that's why Thomas gets a pass; for him, this isn't personal. You set aside personal issues for the greater good. If it is a principle, you don't set it aside.

:popcorn:It's very simple. I'm not going to see a POTUS that I don't agree with. If a pub POTUS was screwing up ths country as bad as this one, I would pass as well.

And don't say W screwed it up as bad. :nono: I believe even you know better than that.

It's very simple. I'm not going to see a POTUS that I don't agree with. If a pub POTUS was screwing up ths country as bad as this one, I would pass as well.

And don't say W screwed it up as bad. :nono: I believe even you know better than that.

Objectively, yes he did. In fact, worse because he was supposed to be on our side. He made Obama possible. He left the GOP, and, worse, the nation, in the mess we are in because of his major policy decisions.

Med part D. Immigration. Energy. Entitlements. TARP. Bailouts. Yeah, Bush was worse, objectively, much worse.

That we have not come to grips with that fact is illustrated in this primary race. Day after day.

I would have gone :shrug: despite my opinions and dislike of the current way things are going..he is still POTUS and holds a high office that WE the People elected. I would have gone because it would have been an honor, no matter who the POTUS was at the time. Taking away from your teamates and trying to get press because of how "principled" you are is a wee bit annoying. Go, feel proud, and then come home and vote the way you feel.:coffee:

I would have gone :shrug: despite my opinions and dislike of the current way things are going..he is still POTUS and holds a high office that WE the People elected. I would have gone because it would have been an honor, no matter who the POTUS was at the time. Taking away from your teamates and trying to get press because of how "principled" you are is a wee bit annoying. Go, feel proud, and then come home and vote the way you feel.:coffee:
Can't agree with this, how are you supposed to feel "honored" by someone that you don't really have any respect for, this is especially true when he's just doing it to score his own PR points.

Can't agree with this, how are you supposed to feel "honored" by someone that you don't really have any respect for, this is especially true when he's just doing it to score his own PR points.

I guess I don't feel like it is honored by SOMEONE, but rather by SOMETHING..as in the POTUS. It's not like he opted out of a signing of a piece of law he disagreed with, or a fundraising dinner..it was an accolade by the president..it is hardly compromising your morals to do that.

Can't agree with this, how are you supposed to feel "honored" by someone that you don't really have any respect for, this is especially true when he's just doing it to score his own PR points.

See, I feel as though you are being honored by the country and not the figurehead shaking your hand.

Objectively, yes he did. In fact, worse because he was supposed to be on our side. He made Obama possible. He left the GOP, and, worse, the nation, in the mess we are in because of his major policy decisions.

Med part D. Immigration. Energy. Entitlements. TARP. Bailouts. Yeah, Bush was worse, objectively, much worse.

That we have not come to grips with that fact is illustrated in this primary race. Day after day.You are out htere man, wayyyyy out there. :lmao:

You are out htere man, wayyyyy out there. :lmao:

Yeah, probably. I mean, everything I mentioned is pretty much...uh...er...well, exactly...true.

True seems to be waaaaaayyyyy out of fashion these days.

I would have gone :shrug: despite my opinions and dislike of the current way things are going..he is still POTUS and holds a high office that WE the People elected. I would have gone because it would have been an honor, no matter who the POTUS was at the time. Taking away from your teamates and trying to get press because of how "principled" you are is a wee bit annoying. Go, feel proud, and then come home and vote the way you feel.:coffee:He took nothing away from his teammates and he was'nt doing it for the press. In fact he made a very short statement and was done.

Yeah, probably. I mean, everything I mentioned is pretty much...uh...er...well, exactly...true.

True seems to be waaaaaayyyyy out of fashion these days.Truth is perception my friend. If that's how you perceive it, it's your truth.

He took nothing away from his teammates and he was'nt doing it for the press. In fact he made a very short statement and was done.

Have you ever played team sports?

Have you ever played team sports?Not since HS. As an adult I am capable of making my own decisions and as long as my actions don't hurt my team, I'm free to do as I wish.

Not meeting with the POTUS has no detrimental affect on the team. The media is the one making a big deal (imagine that). Any other players not go?

Not since HS. As an adult I am capable of making my own decisions and as long as my actions don't hurt my team, I'm free to do as I wish.

Not meeting with the POTUS has no detrimental affect on the team. Any other players not go?

Nah... he was the only one. Therefore I am sure others had objective feelings as well, but sucked it up... Your country is honoring you in a historic building, not necessarily the president...

Nah... he was the only one. Therefore I am sure others had objective feelings as well, but sucked it up... Your country is honoring you in a historic building, not necessarily the president...One friggin guy out of how many? Then why are the media making a big deal? It's a non-issue.

I see your point on the honoring and all but I don't believe this guy is any more American than Sadaam Hussein was. No way would I go see him.

I may revise my opinion on Clinton though. He didn't try to destroy the country like the Kenyan has.

One friggin guy out of how many? Then why are the media making a big deal? It's a non-issue.

I see your point on the honoring and all but I don't believe this guy is any more American than Sadaam Hussein was. No way would I go see him.

I may revise my opinion on Clinton though. he didn't try to destroy the country like the Kenyan has.

Well he is one guy, but arguably the best goaltender in hockey and definitely one of the Bruins biggest stars....

Truth is perception my friend. If that's how you perceive it, it's your truth.

Med Part D is not a perception.

TARP is not a perception.

What we've lost the last 12 years in A'stan and Iraq is not a perception.

Immigration results are not a perception. The Stimulus and Obamacare are not perceptions.

Ron Paul is a kook...is a perception.

Americans #####ing about an American who exercised his right to stand behind his political morals...

Oh the irony

Nah... he was the only one. Therefore I am sure others had objective feelings as well, but sucked it up... Your country is honoring you in a historic building, not necessarily the president...

His country honoring him??? The majority of this country doesnt give a rats ass about hockey. Those who do, arent all Boston Fans...

One friggin guy out of how many? Then why are the media making a big deal? It's a non-issue.

I see your point on the honoring and all but I don't believe this guy is any more American than Sadaam Hussein was. No way would I go see him.

I may revise my opinion on Clinton though. He didn't try to destroy the country like the Kenyan has.

Wonder if Clinton handed out cigars to the Stanley Cup winners...:confused:

His country honoring him??? The majority of this country doesnt give a rats ass about hockey. Those who do, arent all Boston Fans...

Puck the majority!

F Tim Thomas and the Bruins... We beat their ass!! :yahoo:

I wouldn't go. Why would I want to go see a POTUS that I despise?
Now I didn't "despise" Clinton but I still wouldn't go see him.

Even if you don't like Clinton. It may be worth the trip just to smell his fingers.

Scotty Hartnell's quote from yesterday....:yay:

"I'm not a big political guy or whatever, but for me it's a team event and should be an honor to be in the White House no matter what your political views are," Hartnell said. "It would've been the right thing to do to go there and enjoy the day, and who's gonna say he'll ever have another opportunity like that to go there again?"