Our 15 year old has always liked watching tv with subtitles. This was something we thought was just a preference,and then last night she came to watch a show with the rest of the family and a few minutes later,said she wasn't following it and left the room. I was kind of surprised since she had been looking forward to this show - and that is when she said she actually can't hear what is being said which is why she always uses the subtitles. Her clarification of this is that "I hear words,all jumbled together,and it takes me a minute to unscramble them or pull context clues as to what is being said". And she then goes on to say she has always done this and just hid it! She even went on to say she pretty much lip reads a lot of the time when we are talking! Of course in the span of 15 years we do talk to her,she goes to school....so I don't understand. How can she have hearing loss,but still hear,if you get what I'm saying. I'm just very confused about all this. Anyone else on here have a similar hearing situation and can relate to what she is describing? Also,her regular doc doesn't do hearing testing - any suggestions for a next course of action?

What did the doctor recommend?

Our 15 year old has always liked watching tv with subtitles. This was something we thought was just a preference,and then last night she came to watch a show with the rest of the family and a few minutes later,said she wasn't following it and left the room. I was kind of surprised since she had been looking forward to this show - and that is when she said she actually can't hear what is being said which is why she always uses the subtitles. Her clarification of this is that "I hear words,all jumbled together,and it takes me a minute to unscramble them or pull context clues as to what is being said". And she then goes on to say she has always done this and just hid it! She even went on to say she pretty much lip reads a lot of the time when we are talking! Of course in the span of 15 years we do talk to her,she goes to school....so I don't understand. How can she have hearing loss,but still hear,if you get what I'm saying. I'm just very confused about all this. Anyone else on here have a similar hearing situation and can relate to what she is describing? Also,her regular doc doesn't do hearing testing - any suggestions for a next course of action?
Please do research on Central Auditory Processing Deficits and schedule her an appointment with an Audiologist that will LISTEN to what you are describing and do an extentive evaluation.

Our 15 year old has always liked watching tv with subtitles. This was something we thought was just a preference,and then last night she came to watch a show with the rest of the family and a few minutes later,said she wasn't following it and left the room. I was kind of surprised since she had been looking forward to this show - and that is when she said she actually can't hear what is being said which is why she always uses the subtitles. Her clarification of this is that "I hear words,all jumbled together,and it takes me a minute to unscramble them or pull context clues as to what is being said". And she then goes on to say she has always done this and just hid it! She even went on to say she pretty much lip reads a lot of the time when we are talking! Of course in the span of 15 years we do talk to her,she goes to school....so I don't understand. How can she have hearing loss,but still hear,if you get what I'm saying. I'm just very confused about all this. Anyone else on here have a similar hearing situation and can relate to what she is describing? Also,her regular doc doesn't do hearing testing - any suggestions for a next course of action?
You are describing my hearing...

Please, please, please.... make an appointment for her at The Hearing Professionals in California, MD... the hearing specialist there is super great and they can test her on site. I have 40% hearing loss in each ear which happened in early childhood from fluid on the ear damaging the nerves.

If she is hearing impaired she will get a huge jump in quality of life if she gets a hearing aid... she'd be able to demo them before ever commiting to getting one. Also, I've learned that BC/BS will only provide coverage for hearing aids up until the age of 18. Once over that age you will be responsible for 100% of the cost.

Hearing Professionals.... 301.737.4040

They have other locations but I truly love the tech at the California location.

Please do research on Central Auditory Processing Deficits and schedule her an appointment with an Audiologist that will LISTEN to what you are describing and do an extentive evaluation.

Yeah, It sounds like you should take her to see a specialist (audiologist) for something like this. Does she listen to headphones at all (iPod, etc.)?

Best of luck!

Nerve damage hearing loss results in loss of certain tones. That makes it hard to determine what is being said... hotdog or hotrod? Ship or sh*t? map or nap? It makes it hard to communicate so it is easier to just remove oneself from situations where one has to engage in conversation or pay attention to what is being said. A natural borne extrovert will live the life of an introvert in order to avoid dealing with conversation.

Nerve damage hearing loss results in loss of certain tones. That makes it hard to determine what is being said... hotdog or hotrod? Ship or sh*t? map or nap? It makes it hard to communicate so it is easier to just remove oneself from situations where one has to engage in conversation or pay attention to what is being said. A natural borne extrovert will live the life of an introvert in order to avoid dealing with conversation.

I too have hearing loss (mostly in my left ear) from repeated ear infections as a child.

CAPD will also have those same issues.

History: My son did not start talking until he was almost two. Rarely, he said words here and there. Then one day he just blurted out several sentences telling a story. Turns out he could talk, just chose not to.

Age 3. Talking with his sister and others, he would often mix up the words as you described. Listening to a story, he would hear car, instead of bar. Blue instead of clue. Etc. I had his hearing checked no less than 8-10 times at the doctors office. Kept telling him he had a problem. Passed all the hearing tests.

Mind you, alot of stuff happened in between, but this is the cliff notes verson

Age 5. Kindgergarten. Son comes home every day crying. Complains he can't hear. Complains the kids are too loud. They hurt his ears :confused: Can't hear, but the kids are too loud? Back to the doctor again. Finally got a doctor that listened to what I was saying. FINALLY we had him checked by an audiologist that did special testing and it turned out he did in fact have CAPD.

Get your daughter to an audiologist.

You are describing my hearing...

Please, please, please.... make an appointment for her at The Hearing Professionals in California, MD... the hearing specialist there is super great and they can test her on site. I have 40% hearing loss in each ear which happened in early childhood from fluid on the ear damaging the nerves.

If she is hearing impaired she will get a huge jump in quality of life if she gets a hearing aid... she'd be able to demo them before ever commiting to getting one. Also, I've learned that BC/BS will only provide coverage for hearing aids up until the age of 18. Once over that age you will be responsible for 100% of the cost.

Hearing Professionals.... 301.737.4040

They have other locations but I truly love the tech at the California location.

I made the appointment,she gets seen next week and I'll update you all on what they have to say! Thanks so much for the advice,I really wasn't sure how to take this all because like I said,she converses,goes to school,listens to her ipod,etc....so it seemed strange to me.

I made the appointment,she gets seen next week and I'll update you all on what they have to say! Thanks so much for the advice,I really wasn't sure how to take this all because like I said,she converses,goes to school,listens to her ipod,etc....so it seemed strange to me.

Excellent. I look forward to hearing what they have to say. Good luck. Hope all goes very well for her.

I made the appointment,she gets seen next week and I'll update you all on what they have to say! Thanks so much for the advice,I really wasn't sure how to take this all because like I said,she converses,goes to school,listens to her ipod,etc....so it seemed strange to me.I had my hearing loss since early childhood and it wasn't until my late 20s that I decided to try a hearing aid. I functioned through life quite well, but found that the ability to hear all conversations was taking a major toll on my job because I'd only catch part of what I was expected to hear and tried to fake the rest or I'd have to constantly ask for things to be repeated which was frustrating for all parties.


Imagine looking someone straight in the eye and you only catch everyother word and then are expected to give a straight answer in return or go do what they said and you really don't know what it was... that is how your daughter is living day to day if the sound isn't clear.

If I don't have my hearing aid in, I don't watch TV with others unless captions are on. There is no point.

I made the appointment,she gets seen next week and I'll update you all on what they have to say! Thanks so much for the advice,I really wasn't sure how to take this all because like I said,she converses,goes to school,listens to her ipod,etc....so it seemed strange to me.

You'd rather be safe than sorry. Good luck!

I should have mentioned another odd thing about this. I was talking to her just now and she quickly said it isn't a big deal - that it is something she only experiences with voices. She said voices are jumbled,but she doesn't have this problem with other sounds. Weird...

I should have mentioned another odd thing about this. I was talking to her just now and she quickly said it isn't a big deal - that it is something she only experiences with voices. She said voices are jumbled,but she doesn't have this problem with other sounds. Weird...

They will evaluate and advise.

My son could hear me just fine if I was looking at him and talking, but let me turn my back and add some back ground noise and I may as well talk to the wall.

I should have mentioned another odd thing about this. I was talking to her just now and she quickly said it isn't a big deal - that it is something she only experiences with voices. She said voices are jumbled,but she doesn't have this problem with other sounds. Weird...Yep. Sure sounds like my hearing loss... also sounds like a teen who doesn't want to even think about wearing a hearing aid. :whistle:

If she doe find out she should wear hearing aids... don't feel the need right off the bat to buy two... the digital technology today is SO AMAZING that one is all I need and I have significant hearing loss in both ears. Insist that they have her demo ONLY ONE and also make sure that they turn on the radio as background noise when they do the whisper test so that your daughter can see what she's been missing all this time! If she needs one, she can get one that goes in the ear and is pretty much not even visible. Please don't let her not get one... it is a significant quality of life improvement to be able to hear normal and not what she has grown used to as normal.

Yep. Sure sounds like my hearing loss... also sounds like a teen who doesn't want to even think about wearing a hearing aid. :whistle:

If she doe find out she should wear hearing aids... don't feel the need right off the bat to buy two... the digital technology today is SO AMAZING that one is all I need and I have significant hearing loss in both ears. Insist that they have her demo ONLY ONE and also make sure that they turn on the radio as background noise when they do the whisper test so that your daughter can see what she's been missing all this time! If she needs one, she can get one that goes in the ear and is pretty much not even visible. Please don't let her not get one... it is a significant quality of life improvement to be able to hear normal and not what she has grown used to as normal.

You hit it right on the head. She said if she needs a hearing aid everyone will automatically think she is retarded. I told her look,you've been around these kids for two years now. It's just confirming a suspicion. :killingme

You hit it right on the head. She said if she needs a hearing aid everyone will automatically think she is retarded. I told her look,you've been around these kids for two years now. It's just confirming a suspicion. :killingme

:lol: :high5: They won't even see it. She will be absolutely amazed at how much she is missing out on! Just think of how many boys have said hi to her in the halways and think she's stuck up because she ignored them. :lol:

:lol: :high5: They won't even see it. She will be absolutely amazed at how much she is missing out on! [QUOTE] Just think of how many boys have said hi to her in the halways and think she's stuck up because she ignored them. :lol:

That kid can go deaf in that case!

That kid can go deaf in that case!

Come'on you don't really want you girl to grow up with out having the experience of young love do you?

Come'on you don't really want you girl to grow up with out having the experience of young love do you?

oh my friend, how your opinion shall too change in about 14 years and 9 months from now. :killingme

I don't think it will, but we will see.

oh my friend, how your opinion shall too change in about 14 years and 9 months from now. :killingme

If not sooner. :lol:

I don't think it will, but we will see.

we'll check back with ya on that one later. :buddies:

Come'on you don't really want you girl to grow up with out having the experience of young love do you?

Of course I do. Just not with any pissant jerkoffs. So I guess I want her to be a lesbian.

Of course I do. Just not with any pissant jerkoffs. So I guess I want her to be a lesbian.

I'm sure there are no pissant lesbians.

My daughter has worn hearing aides since she was 5 (now 14), and I also happen to work for a non-profit that advocates for the deaf and hard of hearing.

Hearing aides today are so small most girls hairstyles will cover them up. My daughter sees Patricia Craun at the Children's Hospital outpatient center in Upper Marlboro.

She will actually be able to get accommodations at school if she is diagnosed with hearing loss (504 plan). My own daughter doesn't need much along those lines, but things like having the captions turned on when they are watching a video in class (especially if they are doing graded work based on it) and seating towards the front of the class are a big help. A school district audiologist pops by about once a month to check that my daughter is hearing ok/hearing aides working.

As far as comments from other kids..so far in HS my daughter hasn't had any issues. Some problems in Middle School, but it was on the same level that MS kids tend to zero in on ANYTHING different about other kids to pick on, not her hearing aides specifically.

Hey everyone - just an update,we had to cancel the appointment and reschedule it. Wife is handling this one since I'm sick,but she'll be updating later this evening.

What did the doctor recommend?

I haven't been consulted yet..

I should have mentioned another odd thing about this. I was talking to her just now and she quickly said it isn't a big deal - that it is something she only experiences with voices. She said voices are jumbled,but she doesn't have this problem with other sounds. Weird...

This doesn't sound like a hearing problem to me..


and that's my professional opinion..



as a pseudo engineer..

Well,it remains a mystery. She got all the testing done and basically,the short version is her hearing fine. On the low end of being fine and the dr. said she would have expected better at her age,but still within normal limits. Essentially said that this doesn't rule out a neurologic basis but excludes any ear-centric causes. Daughter feels like no one believes her.

Well,it remains a mystery. She got all the testing done and basically,the short version is her hearing fine. On the low end of being fine and the dr. said she would have expected better at her age,but still within normal limits. Essentially said that this doesn't rule out a neurologic basis but excludes any ear-centric causes. Daughter feels like no one believes her.

That WAS what I diagnosed....not a hearing problem.

Dr Bob rocks!

Well,it remains a mystery. She got all the testing done and basically,the short version is her hearing fine. On the low end of being fine and the dr. said she would have expected better at her age,but still within normal limits. Essentially said that this doesn't rule out a neurologic basis but excludes any ear-centric causes. Daughter feels like no one believes her.I'm so glad you got her tested! To bad it wasn't an easy fix though... guess she just has to live with whatever it is...:ohwell:

Nerve damage hearing loss results in loss of certain tones. That makes it hard to determine what is being said... hotdog or hotrod? Ship or sh*t? map or nap? It makes it hard to communicate so it is easier to just remove oneself from situations where one has to engage in conversation or pay attention to what is being said. A natural borne extrovert will live the life of an introvert in order to avoid dealing with conversation.

I was born with nerve damage hearing loss in both ears. Even when I wore hearing aids and read lips, it is very hard to determine what is being said. Communication is very hard. I'm thankful to learned and use American Sign Language to help with communication and makes it a lot easier.

Yep. Sure sounds like my hearing loss... also sounds like a teen who doesn't want to even think about wearing a hearing aid. :whistle:

If she doe find out she should wear hearing aids... don't feel the need right off the bat to buy two... the digital technology today is SO AMAZING that one is all I need and I have significant hearing loss in both ears. Insist that they have her demo ONLY ONE and also make sure that they turn on the radio as background noise when they do the whisper test so that your daughter can see what she's been missing all this time! If she needs one, she can get one that goes in the ear and is pretty much not even visible. Please don't let her not get one... it is a significant quality of life improvement to be able to hear normal and not what she has grown used to as normal.

Digital Technology hearing aides doesn't help me at all. I have 95% hearing loss in left ear and 89% hearing loss in right ear. I can not hear anything in my left ear at all. I have some hearing in my right ear, but I only can hear something very loud (no high pitch sounds).

I'm NOT qualify for Cochlear Implant (CI) due to the type of hearing loss and nerve damage I have. CI will NOT work at all.

Well,it remains a mystery. She got all the testing done and basically,the short version is her hearing fine. On the low end of being fine and the dr. said she would have expected better at her age,but still within normal limits. Essentially said that this doesn't rule out a neurologic basis but excludes any ear-centric causes. Daughter feels like no one believes her.

You need to get second opinion. It's always good to get second opinion. Here's my audiologist's contact information:

Gary Mendelson
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Well,it remains a mystery. She got all the testing done and basically,the short version is her hearing fine. On the low end of being fine and the dr. said she would have expected better at her age,but still within normal limits. Essentially said that this doesn't rule out a neurologic basis but excludes any ear-centric causes. Daughter feels like no one believes her.

what were "all" the tests. I still think it sounds like Central Auditory Processing Deficit. That requires a specific test. :shrug:

what were "all" the tests. I still think it sounds like Central Auditory Processing Deficit. That requires a specific test. :shrug:

It was surprisingly quick. The lady put a probe thing into our daughter's ears,and said she was checking her ear drums,and cochlea. Then,she placed her in a sound booth and said things for her to repeat,or press a button when she heard a noise.

I noticed that multiple times I heard her say one word to be repeated and our daughter would get it wrong,or she was obviously guessing by the tone of her voice. But,when it was all over with,she just said everything was normal.

It was surprisingly quick. The lady put a probe thing into our daughter's ears,and said she was checking her ear drums,and cochlea. Then,she placed her in a sound booth and said things for her to repeat,or press a button when she heard a noise.

I noticed that multiple times I heard her say one word to be repeated and our daughter would get it wrong,or she was obviously guessing by the tone of her voice. But,when it was all over with,she just said everything was normal.

Okay, that's not normal if your daughter kept getting it wrong. Get a second opinion!

what were "all" the tests. I still think it sounds like Central Auditory Processing Deficit. That requires a specific test. :shrug:

:yeahthat: I was diagnosed with a mild version of this many years ago. I have excellent hearing - better than most people - but my brain just doesn't always know what to do with speech. I'm constantly asking people to repeat themselves (just ask my wife) and I avoid phone calls at work like the plague. Email is much better for me.

A few minutes of Googling got me this. CAPD - Central Auditory Processing Disorders and ADHD (http://www.iser.com/caparticle.html) The majority of this description fits me, and maybe you'll see aspects of your daughter's behavior here, too.

The delay in processing normally plays out like this for me: Person says something to me. I say, "What?" because I didn't understand them, even though I heard them. They'll start to repeat themselves, but halfway through their sentence, suddenly it *clicks* for me - I understand what they said and no longer need them to repeat it. I just need an extra second or two for my brain to figure out what has been said to me. Meanwhile, though, those few seconds of delay disrupted the conversation and piss off the person talking to me.

Get your daughter to some specialists. At the very least you and she can figure out what's going on, which should help both of you feel better about whatever it may be.

Our 15 year old has always liked watching tv with subtitles. This was something we thought was just a preference,and then last night she came to watch a show with the rest of the family and a few minutes later,said she wasn't following it and left the room. I was kind of surprised since she had been looking forward to this show - and that is when she said she actually can't hear what is being said which is why she always uses the subtitles. Her clarification of this is that "I hear words,all jumbled together,and it takes me a minute to unscramble them or pull context clues as to what is being said". And she then goes on to say she has always done this and just hid it! She even went on to say she pretty much lip reads a lot of the time when we are talking! Of course in the span of 15 years we do talk to her,she goes to school....so I don't understand. How can she have hearing loss,but still hear,if you get what I'm saying. I'm just very confused about all this. Anyone else on here have a similar hearing situation and can relate to what she is describing? Also,her regular doc doesn't do hearing testing - any suggestions for a next course of action?

How about a neurologist? Calvert has neurologists from Georgetown Univ Hospital now.