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Chasey_Lane
02-29-2012, 03:14 PM
Soooo, we inherited an African Gray a few weeks back and he's still timid. He loves my daughter the most -- she can pet him more than anyone else in the house. He's very gentle when taking food from your hand. He talks if he thinks he's alone but he'll whistle a lot all the time. I live in a neighborhood under construction and he mimics the sound of trucks backing up -- the "beep, beep, beep..." noise.
He'll be 6 years old this year. I don't think he was handled often so I'm sure this is why he's shy. Any tricks for getting him to lighten up a bit?
huntr1
02-29-2012, 03:37 PM
Handle him a lot.
suthrncom4t
02-29-2012, 03:42 PM
Keep talking to him - a lot! and use his name too. They are capable of incredible intelligence. Check out Parrots- Training, Temperament & Care of Pet Parrots (http://www.parrotsecrets.com). Google "African Gray" and learn all you can about him. We have a cockatiel - he's not as smart, but still a hoot to have! He calls the cat, "here kitty, kitty, kitty", says "bow-chicka-wow-wow", "whachya doin bird", the cat-call whistle & other tunes, says "pretty, pretty, pretty", and mimics the noises of the backyard in the spring/summer when he's on the back porch. They are pretty dusty so a bath in the kitchen sink or in the shower w/someone once a week in the winter is helpful, also, we just got some bath type spray from Petco that seems to help; I've also put an inexpensive air cleaner near his cage to help with the dander as well. I have to vacuum every day - that's the only draw-back. Great pets - enjoy!
Chasey_Lane
02-29-2012, 03:58 PM
Handle him a lot.Obviously but he won't let anyone handle him. :smile: We can pet him but that's about it.
Dakota
02-29-2012, 03:59 PM
Any tricks for getting him to lighten up a bit?
Handle him as much as you can.... Our friends have one that cusses like a drunken sailor. Such a smart bird and they taught him nothing but a bunch of foul language. :ohwell: He also likes to get in the shower so they put a perch in there.
Dakota
02-29-2012, 04:00 PM
Obviously but he won't let anyone handle him. :smile: We can pet him but that's about it.
He'll warm up. Give him time.
Chasey_Lane
02-29-2012, 05:18 PM
Handle him as much as you can.... Our friends have one that cusses like a drunken sailor. Such a smart bird and they taught him nothing but a bunch of foul language. :ohwell: He also likes to get in the shower so they put a perch in there.
Max does not like the water. Which is odd because I thought it was a favorite of parrots. When the little dog gets to barking (like right now), Max will "chirp" in sync, almost as if he's telling the dog to hush it. :lmao:
Roman
02-29-2012, 05:37 PM
Max does not like the water. Which is odd because I thought it was a favorite of parrots. When the little dog gets to barking (like right now), Max will "chirp" in sync, almost as if he's telling the dog to hush it. :lmao:
Try to take the Parrot out, and away from his cage for a few minutes every day. They are very cage-protective, and if he can see, or get to his cage, it will be hard to tame him. I've had my Parrots for 25, and 22 years, so you have a lot of time to train him. They love taking showers too. He will get use to it. Mine shower with me. You may even notice him showering in his dish while you vacuum. Birds are so cool!
Chasey_Lane
03-01-2012, 10:43 AM
Try to take the Parrot out, and away from his cage for a few minutes every day. They are very cage-protective, and if he can see, or get to his cage, it will be hard to tame him. I've had my Parrots for 25, and 22 years, so you have a lot of time to train him. They love taking showers too. He will get use to it. Mine shower with me. You may even notice him showering in his dish while you vacuum. Birds are so cool!
I would, but he can't be handled. He flips out...and it's too much stress on him. I need advice for getting him to warm up so that I can handle him. For the record, Max DOES NOT like water. We've tried a few times and he flaps around in his cage and I don't want him to get hurt.
Roman
03-01-2012, 05:06 PM
I would, but he can't be handled. He flips out...and it's too much stress on him. I need advice for getting him to warm up so that I can handle him. For the record, Max DOES NOT like water. We've tried a few times and he flaps around in his cage and I don't want him to get hurt.You can give him little Treats like Apple with Peanut Butter on it, by hand. You can also stick your hand in his cage, eventually moving it closer to him, so that he learns to trust the hand. I trained two of my Friend's Parrots, a Maluccan Cockatoo, and a Amazon Blue Front Parrot. Once I got them out of their cage, I took them to a room that had nothing to perch on. (I did this separately of course.) I sat on the other side of the room, and talked sweetly to them, and eventually, they wobbled over, and perched on my knee. They have to learn to trust, and that takes time. No distractions, and no cage should be in that room. Just you & the Bird. Good luck!! Let me know how it goes.
PrepH4U
03-01-2012, 06:17 PM
I would, but he can't be handled. He flips out...and it's too much stress on him. I need advice for getting him to warm up so that I can handle him. For the record, Max DOES NOT like water. We've tried a few times and he flaps around in his cage and I don't want him to get hurt.
Oh it is very complicated to earn his trust. I would suggest the African Grey Parrot handbook by Mattie Sue Athan. (have read two times) I found these links off of FB pages and they really helped me alot. Welcome to Africangreys.com (http://www.africangreys.com/) & https://companionparrotonline.com/Member_Articles.html. They both have other links and resources listed.
I got my Grey about a month ago (to be here when my old english was dying) and we are now enjoying each other so much more after I did some reading. I had to learn their body language and how you can tell by looking at their eyes if they are stressed or happy.
One thing I will tell you is you will be bite, there is a reason for that, they are trying to determine that you are a worthy flock mate (security). If you are strong and do not react by pulling away they know you are ok. My first bite felt like a razor being pushed slowly into my finger. It hurt like a biatch! I slowly put her back into the cage with the step down command and then went and yelled. If you show weakness and over react (it's hard)they will see that as a weak flock member. I have a big perch that I roll up to the cage to let her out and play. They needs lots and lots of toys that they can play with and shread.
It takes a lot to earn their trust, as they are only 2 generations out of the wild, they just stopped importing them in the 90's.
Just take your time with him and approach them very relaxed, they are very perceptive and can sense if you are tense.
Right now she is very talkative and says good girl, pretty girl, hi, hello, how are you, and she has finally got the song sweet georgia brown down.Tons of sound effects, has my dog whining down pat. They have the intelligence of a four year old and the language skills of a two year old.
When she bite me it took me over a week to get my confidence back up to start trying to get her on my finger again. Everything I read was wait and avoid the same interaction to avoid them biting you again.
Try using a small perch you can use to have them step on, use the step up command, (hopefully they were taught that) didn't work for me but it may be worth a try. Patience is the key, if you force the issue they may feel very threatened and not trust you. NEVER NEVER yell at them, they will never forget and some more issues may develop.
Mine was allowed freedom around thier old house and we have to cage ours during the day so that caused some stress on her but I believe we are making great progress.
I hope this helped a bit.
FromTexas
03-01-2012, 06:40 PM
Soooo, we inherited an African Gray a few weeks back and he's still timid. He loves my daughter the most -- she can pet him more than anyone else in the house. He's very gentle when taking food from your hand. He talks if he thinks he's alone but he'll whistle a lot all the time. I live in a neighborhood under construction and he mimics the sound of trucks backing up -- the "beep, beep, beep..." noise.
He'll be 6 years old this year. I don't think he was handled often so I'm sure this is why he's shy. Any tricks for getting him to lighten up a bit?
Your daughter may have to train him. Not always, but a lot of parrots frequently will only bond with one person - similar to their nature to bond with one mate. They will tolerate/socialize with others - but they only bond with one.
Dakota
03-01-2012, 06:41 PM
My first bite felt like a razor being pushed slowly into my finger. It hurt like a biatch!
THAT made *my* finger hurt just reading how it felt like a razor being pushed slowly into your finger. WOW I have always wanted an African Grey but not everyone in my house has that kind of fondness for birds. In fact, I'm the only one. :ohwell:
FromTexas
03-01-2012, 07:01 PM
THAT made *my* finger hurt just reading how it felt like a razor being pushed slowly into your finger. WOW I have always wanted an African Grey but not everyone in my house has that kind of fondness for birds. In fact, I'm the only one. :ohwell:
I have wanted a parrot since I can't remember... I have come close a number of times. What usually stops me is the fact I like vacations (often 8-10 days at a time). While I can get a sitter or otherwise to make sure they get daily attention, they typically don't handle being alone long periods well. I still may do it someday and just spend a buttload on vacation to get them multiple daily visits... It will be a costly venture. :jet:
Chasey_Lane
03-02-2012, 08:06 AM
Oh it is very complicated to earn his trust. I would suggest the African Grey Parrot handbook by Mattie Sue Athan. (have read two times) I found these links off of FB pages and they really helped me alot. Welcome to Africangreys.com (http://www.africangreys.com/) & https://companionparrotonline.com/Member_Articles.html. They both have other links and resources listed.
I got my Grey about a month ago (to be here when my old english was dying) and we are now enjoying each other so much more after I did some reading. I had to learn their body language and how you can tell by looking at their eyes if they are stressed or happy.
One thing I will tell you is you will be bite, there is a reason for that, they are trying to determine that you are a worthy flock mate (security). If you are strong and do not react by pulling away they know you are ok. My first bite felt like a razor being pushed slowly into my finger. It hurt like a biatch! I slowly put her back into the cage with the step down command and then went and yelled. If you show weakness and over react (it's hard)they will see that as a weak flock member. I have a big perch that I roll up to the cage to let her out and play. They needs lots and lots of toys that they can play with and shread.
It takes a lot to earn their trust, as they are only 2 generations out of the wild, they just stopped importing them in the 90's.
Just take your time with him and approach them very relaxed, they are very perceptive and can sense if you are tense.
Right now she is very talkative and says good girl, pretty girl, hi, hello, how are you, and she has finally got the song sweet georgia brown down.Tons of sound effects, has my dog whining down pat. They have the intelligence of a four year old and the language skills of a two year old.
When she bite me it took me over a week to get my confidence back up to start trying to get her on my finger again. Everything I read was wait and avoid the same interaction to avoid them biting you again.
Try using a small perch you can use to have them step on, use the step up command, (hopefully they were taught that) didn't work for me but it may be worth a try. Patience is the key, if you force the issue they may feel very threatened and not trust you. NEVER NEVER yell at them, they will never forget and some more issues may develop.
Mine was allowed freedom around thier old house and we have to cage ours during the day so that caused some stress on her but I believe we are making great progress.
I hope this helped a bit.Very good info. Thanks! I know you're not supposed to pull away but it's difficult. Girl gives him a "back rub" and he loves it. Last night was the first time he put his head down in front of me so I knew he wanted a scratch. I was able to pet him a bit. I can tell he's warming up but it has been a very slow process.
Chasey_Lane
03-02-2012, 08:12 AM
This is one of the cutest videos: You WILL eat the cookie!!! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBBGqbvzKmQ)
libertytyranny
03-02-2012, 08:23 AM
This is one of the cutest videos: You WILL eat the cookie!!! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBBGqbvzKmQ)
Cute! Monster loves that video she just watched it with me and kept pointing to it and saying "bird":killingme
Chasey_Lane
03-02-2012, 07:36 PM
You weren't lying, Prep. That mo fo bit the #### out of me today and it f'ing hurt!!! I went to give him a Tums (have you tried those yet w/yours) and he went for my finger. #######!!! :lol:
aps45819
03-02-2012, 08:12 PM
Had a house in Hawaii with an attached apartment and the girl that lived there had a Grey. Cool bird. It would holler "Come in" if some one knocked on the door, ans say "hello, hello" every time the phone rang.
One day she came running in with the bird hanging off her lip, that thing latched on tight.
PrepH4U
03-02-2012, 08:56 PM
You weren't lying, Prep. That mo fo bit the #### out of me today and it f'ing hurt!!! I went to give him a Tums (have you tried those yet w/yours) and he went for my finger. #######!!! :lol:
I am sorry I can really feel your pain! :lol: Tums? No I haven't heard about that. Is that for calcium?
Roman
03-02-2012, 09:03 PM
I am sorry I can really feel your pain! :lol: Tums? No I haven't heard about that. Is that for calcium?
I never heard of that either. But I have heard that if you give them to Sea Gulls, the gut explodes. Not sure if that's true.
PrepH4U
03-02-2012, 09:05 PM
I never heard of that either. But I have heard that if you give them to Sea Gulls, the gut explodes. Not sure if that's true.
No that is alka selzter that does that to gulls.
Chasey_Lane
03-03-2012, 03:35 PM
I am sorry I can really feel your pain! :lol: Tums? No I haven't heard about that. Is that for calcium?
Get the fruit flavored Tums; Grays love them! It's also good for them.
Chasey_Lane
03-06-2012, 12:46 PM
I was able to get Max to dance with me last night... to "The Dougie" of all songs. :roflmao:
krazd_kat
03-07-2012, 04:09 PM
I have had mine for about 26/27 years now. Got him when he only had pin feathers and couldn't even perch. Had to hand feed him w/a syringe which is probably why he bonded to me so closely.
I love him to death and he is hilarious, when you are having a bad day they can cheer you up. He can bark in over 100 different languages (thanks to all the foster dogs over the years...)!
Mine has also proven that they can and will put sentences together. When we moved in with my sister for a few years, we were introducing him to all the other animals, this is Sweetpea she's a cat, Rhett this is Rock, Rock's a fish.... A couple of days later this bird was now a bad bad bird fish... We were in the kitchen one night and we hear Rhett - Hey Rock - You're a fish!
We had NEVER said that and the only thing we can think of is maybe we had a talking fish too!
Grays are very resilient birds, I have moved multiple times, across town and across country, he has always adjusted within a day or two. He has landed between 2 Rottweilers on the floor, another time one Rottweiler had his head in his mouth going for a grape (that one scared me).
I have been told that I have a "loud" Gray, he amplifies everything times 10... the microwave, the truck backing up, the zipper on my bag, my snotty nose during a bad cold.... (took me awhile to figure out what those last 2 noises were).
Even if you can never handle him, once he becomes comfortable in your home and around you all you will enjoy him immensely.
By the way, mine HATES the shower and the squirt bottle, but he loves to bath in his water dish or a big water bowl when I put it on the grate.
SouthernMdRocks
03-11-2012, 10:52 AM
I have had mine for about 26/27 years now. Got him when he only had pin feathers and couldn't even perch. Had to hand feed him w/a syringe which is probably why he bonded to me so closely.
I love him to death and he is hilarious, when you are having a bad day they can cheer you up. He can bark in over 100 different languages (thanks to all the foster dogs over the years...)!
Mine has also proven that they can and will put sentences together. When we moved in with my sister for a few years, we were introducing him to all the other animals, this is Sweetpea she's a cat, Rhett this is Rock, Rock's a fish.... A couple of days later this bird was now a bad bad bird fish... We were in the kitchen one night and we hear Rhett - Hey Rock - You're a fish!
We had NEVER said that and the only thing we can think of is maybe we had a talking fish too!
Grays are very resilient birds, I have moved multiple times, across town and across country, he has always adjusted within a day or two. He has landed between 2 Rottweilers on the floor, another time one Rottweiler had his head in his mouth going for a grape (that one scared me).
I have been told that I have a "loud" Gray, he amplifies everything times 10... the microwave, the truck backing up, the zipper on my bag, my snotty nose during a bad cold.... (took me awhile to figure out what those last 2 noises were).
Even if you can never handle him, once he becomes comfortable in your home and around you all you will enjoy him immensely.
By the way, mine HATES the shower and the squirt bottle, but he loves to bath in his water dish or a big water bowl when I put it on the grate.
I think you should make room for Elle, Q's biatch of a bird.:buddies:
krazd_kat
03-12-2012, 10:26 AM
I think you should make room for Elle, Q's biatch of a bird.:buddies:
Exactly what Rhett needs another bird to encourage him....:razz:
acommondisaster
03-17-2012, 07:06 PM
We had a yellow crowned Amazon, Malia, for a few years - until some jackarse who insisted that the bird had to become his friend (despite our repeated protests) scared her out the door by rushing towards her. (She really disliked him) Our mistake for not keeping her wings clipped as welll as we should have, but when it was just the two of us around she was very well behaved. It is very true that they are particular about the people they like and dislike.
She would bark with the dogs (not a good habit to teach a parrot unless you like barking dogs), would imitate the rinse cycle on the dishwasher and loved to say hello. She'd fly down off her perch and head straight for the mashed potatoes anytime she saw them on the table.
She was completely untrained when we got her. I'd use a dowel to get her off her perch and I'd sit with her in the bathroom, with a man's sock on my arm to lessen the scratches and bites. We'd practice getting off and on my arm. It took weeks, but she became friendly, loved a scratch under her chin and a long stroke from head to tail.
Parrots are wonderful companions, but when you take one on you have to know it's the start of a lifelong friendship; as they do form attachments that last 20 plus years. They're definitely not a pet to get on a whim. African greys are particularly smart (and loud). I hope you love him for a very long time. :)
krazd_kat
03-22-2012, 02:52 PM
We had a yellow crowned Amazon, Malia, for a few years - until some jackarse who insisted that the bird had to become his friend (despite our repeated protests) scared her out the door by rushing towards her. (She really disliked him) Our mistake for not keeping her wings clipped as welll as we should have, but when it was just the two of us around she was very well behaved.
Yep, I'll have Rhett a long time, good thing he makes me laugh!
Rhett makes it very clear to people, you get close to him and he WILL BITE. He used to let my sister carry him so long as she was taking him to wherever I was but once he saw me, he would bite her.
She always said "don't bite me"..... Grays are too smart... one of her most disliked sayings was "bite me".... and that's what Rhett would always tell her when she got close to the cage!
My other sister lost a small parrot, had it outside one day and it decided to stretch it's wings, got caught on a wind current and never came back.
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