Make something kewl and unique that people really like and it works! At first. Charge a #### load of money for it and guarantee the thing.

Is this where we are headed? Car broke? Just go to Bed Bath and Beyond, no receipt, no nothing, and get you a new one???

Washer on the fritz? Again? Get another one, pal! Computer?

I know no one who has NOT had their Keurig fail. It is also simple as pie to get it replaced. Is this the economic model of the 21st century to come???

I know no one who has NOT had their Keurig fail.

I've had my Keurig about 5 years and have no complaints. It's still going strong.

I've had my Keurig about 5 years and have no complaints. It's still going strong.

That is not possible! What model???

I've had my Keurig about 5 years and have no complaints. It's still going strong.



Same here.. No problems

I've had my Keurig about 5 years and have no complaints. It's still going strong.
We've had ours just as long, if not longer and have never had a problem with it. I don't know anyone IRL that has had to replace theirs.

We've had ours just as long, if not longer and have never had a problem with it. I don't know anyone IRL that has had to replace theirs.


I've had to replace mine several times, but I'm used to that. I seem to give out an aura that eventually craps out anything electronic. :lol:

I agree with your general point Larry.

It seems that many things aren't made to last anymore. And people have the mentality of "If it breaks, just throw it in the trash and buy a new one". Bottom line, companies are out to make a profit and love this idea. They can make their products using cheap parts and if they break then many consumers just go get a new one rather than deal with the headache of shipping it back or getting it repaired. :ohwell:

As far as Keurig is concerned. Don't have one - so I can't comment on that product.

I've had to replace mine several times, but I'm used to that. I seem to give out an aura that eventually craps out anything electronic. :lol:
I think our electronics know that Dustin will take them apart if they even think about acting up. :lmao:

I agree with your general point Larry.

It seems that many things aren't made to last anymore. And people have the mentality of "If it breaks, just throw it in the trash and buy a new one".

Things don't last like they used to, and unfortunately, it is less expensive to simply replace an item than it is to repair it. :shrug:

My mom and dad have one of those metal gazebos with a cloth enclosure. The cloth enclosure has worn out so I looked into replacing it. It was more expensive to purchase the cover than it was to buy the entire gazebo (with cover) all over again.

I've had to replace mine several times, but I'm used to that. I seem to give out an aura that eventually craps out anything electronic. :lol::lol:

Still on my first one and it's a little over 2 years. :shrug: And I'm not saying anything more about any of my appliances or electronics or I'll go home tonight and nothing will work. :lol: JINXed

I've had to replace my Keurig twice.

So let's do some math:

I paid about $120 for the original machine. Since then Keurig has replaced it twice at no charge. Comes out to $40 per machine, plus I get free K-Cups and Buy 2- Get 2 discounts with each new brewer. Oh, and they replace it with the newer model.

In a moment of impatience while waiting for my last new brewer to come in, I bought a B&D normal old coffee maker for back up. It was $30 and leaks all over the place. Did B&D replace it for me? No. By the time I used it, I'd thrown away the packaging and receipt so tough noogs for me.

So the $30 to B&D, a major and diverse company, was completely wasted. Might as well have thrown that money in the trash. But the $120 to Keurig bought me a coffee brewer for life with free upgrades.

I'm digging the Keurig business model.

I've had to replace mine several times, but I'm used to that. I seem to give out an aura that eventually craps out anything electronic. :lol:


Not being silly at all- but folks in the electronics biz (especially those who do repairs and tech support) would confirm this to be true for some people. There are actually people that break watches constantly. Im not one of those tech experts but something about their own electronic field and how or what it emits.

I agree with your general point Larry.

It seems that many things aren't made to last anymore. And people have the mentality of "If it breaks, just throw it in the trash and buy a new one". Bottom line, companies are out to make a profit and love this idea. They can make their products using cheap parts and if they break then many consumers just go get a new one rather than deal with the headache of shipping it back or getting it repaired. :ohwell:

As far as Keurig is concerned. Don't have one - so I can't comment on that product.

Totally agree with this post. Our throw away society is a sad one to say the least. As for the Keurig- even if this thing was build like a brick Shhh house- and not a one ever broke, I personally find the cost of it and the little cups to be a waste. What happened to finding the best deal? IMO in a home that drinks 4 -8 cups a day- that cant possibly be the most economic way to brew. Yes, Ive had coffee from them- NO not AT ALL do I find it to be SO great I cant drink the 'swill' that pours from my 10 year old mr coffee.

I personally find the cost of it and the little cups to be a waste. What happened to finding the best deal?.

For me, the Keurig is the best deal. I never ever finished a pot of coffee. I simply don't drink that much, so it always got tossed out. My Keurig has also kept me out of Starbucks, saving me quite a bit of money in the long run. I used to do Starbucks at least twice a week. I can't remember the last time I was in there. Take $3 for a coffee, over $.50 for a coffee, and that's a pretty good deal.

I got one of the Eko cups and use regular coffee instead of K-cups. Way cheaper, plus I can have whatever flavor I want. And when other people are over and want coffee, they can have whatever *they* want. And when I want a cup or two of coffee throughout the day or evening, I don't have to commit to a whole pot.

For me the Keurig is more economical.

I got one of the Eko cups and use regular coffee instead of K-cups. Way cheaper, plus I can have whatever flavor I want.

Is that the thing that you pack your own coffee in? If it's the one I think, I tried it but found it just took too damned long to make one cup of coffee when I could just use a regular coffee-maker to make the same stuff.

I thought part of the allure of the Keurig was the simplicity of it - my 6 year old can do it. Using that other thingy took just as long as making a full pot except it just yields one cup. Using the little insert just seemed like an excuse to use the Keurig with my own coffee. It saved no time.

What surprises me is no one has yet figured out how to make a cheap K-Cup. I keep wondering when Giant or Wal-Mart will come out with their own.

Is that the thing that you pack your own coffee in? If it's the one I think, I tried it but found it just took too damned long to make one cup of coffee when I could just use a regular coffee-maker to make the same stuff.

I thought part of the allure of the Keurig was the simplicity of it - my 6 year old can do it. Using that other thingy took just as long as making a full pot except it just yields one cup. Using the little insert just seemed like an excuse to use the Keurig with my own coffee. It saved no time.

What surprises me is no one has yet figured out how to make a cheap K-Cup. I keep wondering when Giant or Wal-Mart will come out with their own.

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This is simple and takes as long to brew as a regular K-cup. You fill up the insert with coffee, set it in the brewer, push the button. 30 seconds later, you have a cup of coffee.

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This is simple and takes as long to brew as a regular K-cup. You fill up the insert with coffee, set it in the brewer, push the button. 30 seconds later, you have a cup of coffee.

I guess to me it's the same as putting coffee in a filter and making a pot. Just a smaller filter and less coffee.

On the other hand, easily three quarters of all the coffee I drink is cold. And my regular coffee maker has a thermos type receiver, so it stays hot for about a day or so. I don't mind old or cold coffee.

I like mine because it makes the water glow blue... :yay:

I don't know much about them having only used one in a hospital up here in Maine. I much prefer a stronger coffee taste than that one put out with those little packs.

Make something kewl and unique that people really like and it works! At first. Charge a #### load of money for it and guarantee the thing.

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Washer on the fritz? Again? Get another one, pal! Computer?

I know no one who has NOT had their Keurig fail. It is also simple as pie to get it replaced. Is this the economic model of the 21st century to come???

Green Mountain (i.e. Kuerig) is not in the coffee maker business. It's in the coffee business. It breaks even or loses money selling those home brewers (especially if we're considering costs associated with selling them, e.g. warranty coverage). It sells them to you so that it can sell you K-Cups - the brewers just facilitate what it does to make profits. That being the case, it doesn't want you having to wait to get one repaired - or worse still, having to decide whether you're willing to spend more money to buy another one - when the one you have stops working properly. It wants as many people as reasonably possible to have working brewers so it can sell lots of K-Cups. That's why it allows, e.g., Mr. Coffee to make and sell compatible brewers.

If its primary business was selling coffee makers, it might have different warranty policies, different quality assurance standards / policies, and offer the machines at different price points. Likewise, if McDonalds' primary business was selling eating utensils it might have different policies regarding how freely it allows its stores to hand them out (and, perhaps, more focus on their quality). As it is however, McDonalds wants to sell you food and it seems to think that allowing you easy (and cheap) access to the utensils you need to eat that food is good policy. It's probably right about that.

Is this where we are headed? Car broke? Just go to Bed Bath and Beyond, no receipt, no nothing, and get you a new one???

If a car manufacturer could sell cars such that it retained some amount of control over the fuel that was needed to make those cars go, and it made considerable profit whenever you bought that fuel, we might well see a situation where you could drive your malfunctioning car into some sort of dealership (or, if need be, leave it where it is) and drive right back out with a properly functioning car. They'd fix up your old ride and have it ready for the next person in need of a quick replacement. We might also see cheaper cars (both in terms of cost to produce and cost to consumer), especially those big gas-guzzling ones. Get your brand new Hummer H1 here, just $9,999. :yahoo:

Green Mountain (i.e. Kuerig) is not in the coffee maker business. It's in the coffee business. It breaks even or loses money selling those home brewers (especially if we're considering costs associated with selling them, e.g. warranty coverage). It sells them to you so that it can sell you K-Cups - the brewers just facilitate what it does to make profits. That being the case, it doesn't want you having to wait to get one repaired - or worse still, having to decide whether you're willing to spend more money to buy another one - when the one you have stops working properly. It wants as many people as reasonably possible to have working brewers so it can sell lots of K-Cups. That's why it allows, e.g., Mr. Coffee to make and sell compatible brewers.

If its primary business was selling coffee makers, it might have different warranty policies, different quality assurance standards / policies, and offer the machines at different price points. Likewise, if McDonalds' primary business was selling eating utensils it might have different policies regarding how freely it allows its stores to hand them out (and, perhaps, more focus on their quality). As it is however, McDonalds wants to sell you food and it seems to think that allowing you easy (and cheap) access to the utensils you need to eat that food is good policy. It's probably right about that.



If a car manufacturer could sell cars such that it retained some amount of control over the fuel that was needed to make those cars go, and it made considerable profit whenever you bought that fuel, we might well see a situation where you could drive your malfunctioning car into some sort of dealership (or, if need be, leave it where it is) and drive right back out with a properly functioning car. They'd fix up your old ride and have it ready for the next person in need of a quick replacement. We might also see cheaper cars (both in terms of cost to produce and cost to consumer), especially those big gas-guzzling ones. Get your brand new Hummer H1 here, just $9,999. :yahoo:

It could be fun to follow this out; Given the housing problem, Home Depot and Lowe's could buy up all the excess inventory for pennies on the dollar and hand 'em out like candy; "For Sale by owner; Fixer upper! HUGE lawn! Needs dry wall and paint, cabinets, electric, appliances, landscaping (plenty of afternoon shade which is ESPECIALLY good for gerber daisies), all sorts of #### needs fixin'! 4 bedroom 3 1/2 bath (once you've built the other bath and a half) HUGE garage (once the addition is done!) driveway could use some work as well as the deck. Free his and hers pick up trucks for the first 1,000,000 buyers; $9,999.99"

How about...

"Free schooling! Free health care! All sorts of free ####! Just cross the border!"

Wait. We tried that...

I've had to replace my Keurig twice.

So let's do some math:

I paid about $120 for the original machine. Since then Keurig has replaced it twice at no charge. Comes out to $40 per machine, plus I get free K-Cups and Buy 2- Get 2 discounts with each new brewer. Oh, and they replace it with the newer model.

In a moment of impatience while waiting for my last new brewer to come in, I bought a B&D normal old coffee maker for back up. It was $30 and leaks all over the place. Did B&D replace it for me? No. By the time I used it, I'd thrown away the packaging and receipt so tough noogs for me.

So the $30 to B&D, a major and diverse company, was completely wasted. Might as well have thrown that money in the trash. But the $120 to Keurig bought me a coffee brewer for life with free upgrades.

I'm digging the Keurig business model.

Ours has started leaking....how did you go about replacing it? Just go to their website?

Ours has started leaking....how did you go about replacing it? Just go to their website?

Go to the website and find the number, give them a call. Their customer service is excellent. The rep will ask you a few questions, walk you through possible fix if applicable, then arrange for you to receive a new machine if yours is unfixable.

EZPZ.

I got a little frustrated (I know, what a shocker) with my B&D and removed the parts that were making it leak all over the place. You have to leave the carafe in place till it's done brewing, but no more leaks. Total investment about $40. I could never see buying a one-cup brewer for myself for home use, and by the time I'm at work I shift to diet sodas.

I do have a Braun one-cup brewer that's about 10 years old and works great (I used it when on travel back in the day). It's small and very basic, simple and makes a great cup of coffee. (I used to grind up a few day's worth and put it in a zip-loc bag and bring it with me).

It could be fun to follow this out; Given the housing problem, Home Depot and Lowe's could buy up all the excess inventory for pennies on the dollar and hand 'em out like candy; "For Sale by owner; Fixer upper! HUGE lawn! Needs dry wall and paint, cabinets, electric, appliances, landscaping (plenty of afternoon shade which is ESPECIALLY good for gerber daisies), all sorts of #### needs fixin'! 4 bedroom 3 1/2 bath (once you've built the other bath and a half) HUGE garage (once the addition is done!) driveway could use some work as well as the deck. Free his and hers pick up trucks for the first 1,000,000 buyers; $9,999.99"

That is a fascinating thought, and probably not that far off base. (don't get your head all swelled up 'cause someone said that, Larry) We've spent a lot of decades now builiding cheaper and cheaper products, and charging people more and more for consumable type of items & services. No company wants to build you something dependable; if it keeps working you won't buy another one.

I've had my Keurig about 5 years and have no complaints. It's still going strong.

3-4 years here.

Go to the website and find the number, give them a call. Their customer service is excellent. The rep will ask you a few questions, walk you through possible fix if applicable, then arrange for you to receive a new machine if yours is unfixable.

EZPZ.

The key here is they really make all their money on the k-cups. The machine probably doesn't cost them that much to manufacture. :yay:

The key here is they really make all their money on the k-cups. The machine probably doesn't cost them that much to manufacture. :yay:

Fine with me. I got an Ekobrew cup and use regular coffee instead of K-cups.

:cartwheel

That is not possible! What model???

Plumbed and filtered B105... Used by over 10 people a day, no issues.

The key here is they really make all their money on the k-cups. The machine probably doesn't cost them that much to manufacture. :yay:

JUST like printers...

Buy a printer for $50 then their proprietary cartridges cost twice that.

Green Mountain Coffee (i.e. Keurig) is getting slammed in pre-market trading this morning after it provided worse than expected forward guidance in its earnings release yesterday afternoon. By slammed I mean off about 40%, from about $50 / share to about $30 / share.

Green Mountain also announced yesterday that it's made a deal that will make Eight O'Clock coffee, Good Earth tea, and Tetley tea available for the Keurig K-Cup system.