Larry said something in the GNR thread that started me thinking. He said that singers make pop, and the band defines the music. I think that is true in most cases, but I think there are epic singers who have a unique style that supercedes that of the whole.

We talked about this over lunch and I'm curious as to what you all think. What frontmen man the band, not just complimented the music?

I'm talking about vocal skill only, there have been many front men who for whatever reason, antics, fashion, overall rockstar auroa have elevated the band to another level.

I'll throw one out there, I think Chris Cornell's vocal range and distinct vocal sound made Soundgarden, and Audioslave.

What say you?

Larry said something in the GNR thread that started me thinking. He said that singers make pop, and the band defines the music. I think that is true in most cases, but I think there are epic singers who have a unique style that supercedes that of the whole.

We talked about this over lunch and I'm curious as to what you all think. What frontmen man the band, not just complimented the music?

I'm talking about vocal skill only, there have been many front men who for whatever reason, antics, fashion, overall rockstar auroa have elevated the band to another level.

I'll throw one out there, I think Chris Cornell's vocal range and distinct vocal sound made Soundgarden, and Audioslave.

What say you?

No doubt! I think that holds true for most bands... But, most times when the singer tries to go solo, it falls flat and doesn't live up to the band they were from... I think you could say that about Cornell as well...

I'll throw one out there, I think Chris Cornell's vocal range and distinct vocal sound made Soundgarden, and Audioslave.

What say you?

Let's make sure we are clear and stay on rock and not pop. The Police were Sting and only Sting; Pop.

To me Soundgarden is THIS groove;

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The singer, like Axl, fit and was complimentary to the band. Does Audioslave hold a candle to SG?

Dio, Lemmy, Tom Keifer (Cinderella), Taime Downe (Faster Pussycat), Freddie Mercury, Sting, Jesse James Dupree (Jackyl), Jason McMaster (Dangerous Toys) and Rob Halford off the top of my head.

Larry said something in the GNR thread that started me thinking. He said that singers make pop, and the band defines the music. I think that is true in most cases, but I think there are epic singers who have a unique style that supercedes that of the whole.

We talked about this over lunch and I'm curious as to what you all think. What frontmen man the band, not just complimented the music?

I'm talking about vocal skill only, there have been many front men who for whatever reason, antics, fashion, overall rockstar auroa have elevated the band to another level.

I'll throw one out there, I think Chris Cornell's vocal range and distinct vocal sound made Soundgarden, and Audioslave.

What say you?
Geddy Lee, Freddy Mercury and Mark Knopfler

As great as Freddy Mercury was, it was still Queen. One was nothing without the other.

I am trying to think of exceptions to the Gude rule.

A buddy of mine, guitar and vocals, was the heart of his old band and became the heart of his subsequent bands which were all more successful, all metal but, all obscure so, that doesn't count.

Let's make sure we are clear and stay on rock and not pop. The Police were Sting and only Sting; Pop.

To me Soundgarden is THIS groove;

uLZBhlTXHuo

The singer, like Axl, fit and was complimentary to the band. Does Audioslave hold a candle to SG?

No Audioslave and SG aren't, I just relating the common thread. I still think that Chris Cornell made Soundgarden. To me he he made the band, not the music. :buddies:

Dio, Lemmy, Tom Keifer (Cinderella), Taime Downe (Faster Pussycat), Freddie Mercury, Sting, Jesse James Dupree (Jackyl), Jason McMaster (Dangerous Toys) and Rob Halford off the top of my head.

Holy hairbands Batman!:killingme I orginally thought of Freddie, but it's a little poppish...so I didn't know if it fit.

Geddy Lee of RUSH

Personally, if David Lee Roth wasn't such a douche, I'd have to say him as well...just didn't like them as much with Sammy or Gary Scharrone

As great as Freddy Mercury was, it was still Queen. One was nothing without the other.

I am trying to think of exceptions to the Gude rule.

A buddy of mine, guitar and vocals, was the heart of his old band and became the heart of his subsequent bands which were all more successful, all metal but, all obscure so, that doesn't count.
I've got to disagree with you on this one, I've tried listening to Queen w/o Freddie and just can't get in to it.

What frontmen man the band, not just complimented the music?

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Let's be clear on the question, folks.

The music is every bit as much the band as Geddy. I am shocked anyone would suggest otherwise for Rush especially given all the legendary instrumentals they did not to mention that guy, what's his face, perhaps the greatest rock drummer of all time.

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Dio, Lemmy, Tom Keifer (Cinderella), Taime Downe (Faster Pussycat), Freddie Mercury, Sting, Jesse James Dupree (Jackyl), Jason McMaster (Dangerous Toys) and Rob Halford off the top of my head.

since you mentioned DIO, then I would have to say Ozzy...after him, Sabbath just lost something using DIO & Iome. As far as your hair bands, I always felt most of these lead singers could be interchangeable with any of their respective bands. they all just sounded too alike to me

Let's be clear on the question, folks.

The music is every bit as much the band as Geddy. I am shocked anyone would suggest otherwise for Rush especially given all the legendary instrumentals they did not to mention that guy, what's his face, perhaps the greatest rock drummer of all time.



Neil Peart

Geddy Lee of RUSH

Personally, if David Lee Roth wasn't such a douche, I'd have to say him as well...just didn't like them as much with Sammy or Gary Scharrone

See, you sub out DLR, or Sammy, or even Gary, you still have Eddie's cutting edge guitar in the back that was a HUGE part of Van Halen's music. Sammy is a performer, that's for sure. But as we've seen, it's still lived on without him in one fashion or another.:buddies:

I've got to disagree with you on this one, I've tried listening to Queen w/o Freddie and just can't get in to it.

No, there is no Queen without Freddie...they shouldn't even call themselves Princess....Freddie Mercury voice is what brought me to the band, not Brian May.

I've got to disagree with you on this one, I've tried listening to Queen w/o Freddie and just can't get in to it.

Right but, the question: What frontmen man the band, not just complimented the music?

Freddy wasn't Queen. Freddy and Queen was Queen.

Sting WAS the Police. :shrug:

Neil Peart

I was only kidding for effect.

Right but, the question:

Freddy wasn't Queen. Freddy and Queen was Queen.

Sting WAS the Police. :shrug:

That's like saying George Michael was Wham!:killingme

Sorry, I'll shut up now, I couldn't resist.

Holy hairbands Batman!:killingme I orginally thought of Freddie, but it's a little poppish...so I didn't know if it fit.

Sid Vicious, Ian Stuart, Billie Joe Armstrong, Billy Milano, Ben Kowalewicz and Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates.

I was only kidding for effect.

I get jokes

since you mentioned DIO, then I would have to say Ozzy...after him, Sabbath just lost something using DIO & Iome. As far as your hair bands, I always felt most of these lead singers could be interchangeable with any of their respective bands. they all just sounded too alike to me

Good one. Sabbath lost a lot but, they kept going and, with Dio, were still huge.

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Let's be clear on the question, folks.

The music is every bit as much the band as Geddy. I am shocked anyone would suggest otherwise for Rush especially given all the legendary instrumentals they did not to mention that guy, what's his face, perhaps the greatest rock drummer of all time.

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so great you can't remember his name?...you do realize with that statement alone, you just made the OPs case, right?

the synth music of RUSH sounds no different than the synth crap from Styx or ELP Larry

so great you can't remember his name?...you do realize with that statement alone, you just made the OPs case, right?

:tap:


I made the comment in jest for effect.

Sid Vicious, Ian Stuart, Billie Joe Armstrong, Billy Milano and Ben Kowalewicz.

Vicious wasn't a frontman...:confused:

That's like saying George Michael was Wham!:killingme

Sorry, I'll shut up now, I couldn't resist.

Right and Wham and the Police are pop so, out side the conversation.

:buddies:

Vicious wasn't a frontman...:confused:

:yeahthat: he played Bass. Johnny Rotten was the Pistols singer....if you want to call it that....

Billy Joe.....as much as I'm not a big Green Day person, I don't really see the other 2 doing anything without him. I don't know how much his vocal ability comes in to play....but I don't think Tre and Mike (?) are making any music without him worth a damn.

Vicious wasn't a frontman...:confused:


Yes...what am I missing?


Oh...I got it now...:stupid:

I'm thinking wrassling again.

:yeahthat: he played Bass. Johnny Rotten was the Pistols singer....if you want to call it that....

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I like his singing....:lmao: His band after the Pistols is awesome! Public Image Limited...

Sid Vicious, Ian Stuart, Billie Joe Armstrong, Billy Milano, Ben Kowalewicz and Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates.

I will give you Billie Joe and Greenday. Good one.

Not Sid. Good Lord, Johnny and Steve Jones were that band more so than Sid. Sid could barely play and didn't write anything.

I like his singing....:lmao: His band after the Pistols is awesome! Public Image Limited...

Was that when he did My Way?

Vicious wasn't a frontman...:confused:

Sid was a stage prop.

Ricky Martin...Menudo just fell apart after him...and Marc Anthony...

Ricky Martin...Menudo just fell apart after him...and Marc Anthony...

Not rock...

Sid was a stage prop.

are you serious?? Sid couldn't even prop himself much less an entire stage :killingme

Was that when he did My Way?

Sid did "my way" solo

Not rock...

I was only kidding for negative effect :duel:

I was only kidding for negative effect :duel:

:lol:

Touche.

:buddies:

Sid was a stage prop.

Yup... Glen Matlock was the original bassist... Matlock even c0-wrote (w/ Jones) most of, if not all the music and lyrics. So, indeed Sid was a stage prop. :buddies:

Phil Collins.

are you serious?? Sid couldn't even prop himself much less an entire stage :killingme

:lmao:

Morrissey
Bob Mould
Chuck Mosley
J. Mascis

What was that stupid tv show where they were trying out new singers for INXS?

Mick Jagger.

Perry Farrell / Jane's Addiction
Ian Astbury / The Cult

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Chuck Mosley
J. Mascis
I'll ask you to please GTFO with that crap:killingme


What was that stupid tv show where they were trying out new singers for INXS?

Michael Hutchinson? INXS was pop rock, but yeah he had a pretty brilliant voice over the top of mediocre music.

I can't believe I almost forgot Kurt Cobain.

I can't believe I almost forgot Kurt Cobain.

Yeah, but Grohl went on with major success without him...

Perry Farrell / Jane's Addiction
Ian Astbury / The Cult

I think the music was too good to say without Perry there isn't a Janes...even though he makes everything happen.

Ian Astbury is a good one....I just thought it was a little weird when he tried to turn into the Lizard King.:buddies:

I think the music was too good to say without Perry there isn't a Janes...even though he makes everything happen.


No way... Perry completes that band...no doubt. A Jane's show back in the day was a religious experience...:yay:

Ian Astbury is a good one....I just thought it was a little weird when he tried to turn into the Lizard King.:buddies:

:lmao: I just bought tickets yesterday to their show in June...:dude:

:lmao: I just bought tickets yesterday to their show in June...:dude:

Where is that? I might have to go to that.

Where is that? I might have to go to that.

The Fillmore in Silver Spring

Phil Collins.

umm...I think I'm gonna disagree. I Liked Genesis whether Collins or Gabriel was their front man...

The Fillmore in Silver Spring

I'm going to see Manson there in a couple of weeks.

umm...I think I'm gonna disagree. I Liked Genesis whether Collins or Gabriel was their front man...

pop music

if it wasn't for the cult following, I even think the Grateful Dead could carry on with a new front man...their music always made them, even though Jerry Garcia had the influence of writing the songs as well


I know...I should be crucified for even suggesting such blasphemy!!

if it wasn't for the cult following, I even think the Grateful Dead could carry on with a new front man...their music always made them, even though Jerry Garcia had the influence of writing the songs as well


I know...I should be crucified for even suggesting such blasphemy!!

Oh Lord...I hate The Dead with a passion!!!!

Oh Lord...I hate The Dead with a passion!!!!

YOU SIR, SHOULD BE CRUCIFIED FOR SUCH BLASPHEMY!!!! :killingme

Oh Lord...I hate The Dead with a passion!!!!

:yeahthat:

Load all the deadheads and Phish fans up in a stadium and nuke it!

:yeahthat:

Load all the deadheads and Phish fans up in a stadium and nuke it!

please and thanks

I can't believe I almost forgot Kurt Cobain.

Rob Zombie, too.