Good mroning all! I used to be a Civil War reenactor and I am looking to get back into it. My daughter who is 8yrs old really wants to do it but I don't have any clothing for her. I am not a sewer BUT I am willing to learn. I have looked online for a dress but they are either WAY too expensive or it is just patterns. If soemone can either point me in the right direction or may have something you are willing to sell or help me learn how to sew I would greatly appreciate it. Her first event is May 12th. Thank you so much!!!

Good mroning all! I used to be a Civil War reenactor and I am looking to get back into it. My daughter who is 8yrs old really wants to do it but I don't have any clothing for her. I am not a sewer BUT I am willing to learn. I have looked online for a dress but they are either WAY too expensive or it is just patterns. If soemone can either point me in the right direction or may have something you are willing to sell or help me learn how to sew I would greatly appreciate it. Her first event is May 12th. Thank you so much!!!


Surely your 8 year old daughter acquired her desire to do that from you, and as such you might try to consider the damage you are doing to your daughter in that action.

To reenact war is to glamorize war, as to make war to seem nice and fun and as grown-up or mature when it is not. And even more particular is to glamorize the Civil War which was the most barbaric and most uncivil of wars that our Country has ever had.

Your daughter learns from you which means that you are filling her mind with that ugly garbage and it is up to your self to stop your self, and then maybe you can reverse the damage already done to your daughter.

:howdy:

Surely your 8 year old daughter acquired her desire to do that from you, and as such you might try to consider the damage you are doing to your daughter in that action.

To reenact war is to glamorize war, as to make war to seem nice and fun and as grown-up or mature when it is not. And even more particular is to glamorize the Civil War which was the most barbaric and most uncivil of wars that our Country has ever had.

Your daughter learns from you which means that you are filling her mind with that ugly garbage and it is up to your self to stop your self, and then maybe you can reverse the damage already done to your daughter.

:howdy:You are an f'ing moron!

I have to agree that Cusic is a total moroon.
Kountza - Please don't let this jerk keep you and your daughter from enjoying a good hobby and helping to recreate history.

Thank you for the words of encouragement. To reply to the idiot that insulted me and my family I am NOT glamorizing ANYTHING! I was a history major in college and hold a bachelors in history. I love learning about the past and I have not pushed anything onto my daughter. She has a mind of her own and when I finally moved back closer to people I have known for years invited me back and she personally asked to go because she too loves history of all kinds. The past is the past nothing is pretty with war I agree. I am acutally a military spouse and I do not like war one bit but reality is it happens. It has happened in the beginning and will always happen. Maybe you should find something better to do with your time than putting down an 8 year old child and her mother whom you don't know from Adam!

Thank you for the words of encouragement. To reply to the idiot that insulted me and my family I am NOT glamorizing ANYTHING! I was a history major in college and hold a bachelors in history. I love learning about the past and I have not pushed anything onto my daughter. She has a mind of her own and when I finally moved back closer to people I have known for years invited me back and she personally asked to go because she too loves history of all kinds. The past is the past nothing is pretty with war I agree. I am acutally a military spouse and I do not like war one bit but reality is it happens. It has happened in the beginning and will always happen. Maybe you should find something better to do with your time than putting down an 8 year old child and her mother whom you don't know from Adam!

No need to explain and justify yourself to him. He is out of touch with reality.

:killingme

kountza,

I wonder if the Amish folks would be willing to help you out here. :shrug:

I don't know. How would you contact them? We just moved here a couple of months ago and I know there are Amish around but I don't know where to find there goods. I have wanted to buy some of there stuff. I loved it when I used to go to Lancaster with my parents when I was growing up.

JoAnn Fabrics might give sewing lessons.

I don't know. How would you contact them? We just moved here a couple of months ago and I know there are Amish around but I don't know where to find there goods. I have wanted to buy some of there stuff. I loved it when I used to go to Lancaster with my parents when I was growing up.

Go to the flea market in Charlotte Hall tomorrow and ask around. There are always quite a few there selling their goods.

Go to the flea market in Charlotte Hall tomorrow and ask around. There are always quite a few there selling their goods.

:yeahthat: and they also have stands at the library in Charlotte Hall.

She's 8, so that means she's still growing. I wouldn't put a lot of effort nor money either into her outfit. Why not dress her in a "costume" as a boy (girls did serve as soldiers as boys during the war)? At least temporarily.

Link for costumes (http://www.candyapplecostumes.com/civil_war.html?gclid=CNvciZyosq8CFYbe4Aod_BrlDQ)

Another thought is to buy Amish clothing as previously mentioned. A long cotton skirt, long cotton shirt and an apron overpinning should be fine. I know I saw some aprons and bonnets at Zimmerman's (of all places). So the Amish market probably has a lot more.

Oh and put JP on ignore. He's always spouting ignorant hateful things that aren't worth your time/energy to even read much less respond to.

Good mroning all! I used to be a Civil War reenactor and I am looking to get back into it. My daughter who is 8yrs old really wants to do it but I don't have any clothing for her. I am not a sewer BUT I am willing to learn. I have looked online for a dress but they are either WAY too expensive or it is just patterns. If soemone can either point me in the right direction or may have something you are willing to sell or help me learn how to sew I would greatly appreciate it. Her first event is May 12th. Thank you so much!!!

April 21-22...there are typically three or more units that gather at this event in Glenn Dale (45 min ride from Top of St Mary's Cnty) and they are very inviting & friendly. I can assure you they have plenty of contacts AND there is likely to be a few suttlers there that can offer some help too.--Give you enough time to get some clothing together. I have plenty of clothing for colonial--loaned to students for 24 years now!...sorry they are the wrong period for you.
Hessian

Thank you! Actually, where do you get your Colonial clothing? Do you make them? My daughter wants and 18th century gown also, she is in love with Colonial Williamsburg but like I posted I do not sew but it looks like I need to learn!! :)

To reply to the idiot that insulted me and my family I am NOT glamorizing ANYTHING! I was a history major in college and hold a bachelors in history. I love learning about the past and I have not pushed anything onto my daughter. She has a mind of her own and when I finally moved back closer to people I have known for years invited me back and she personally asked to go because she too loves history of all kinds. The past is the past nothing is pretty with war I agree. I am acutally a military spouse and I do not like war one bit but reality is it happens. It has happened in the beginning and will always happen. Maybe you should find something better to do with your time than putting down an 8 year old child and her mother whom you don't know from Adam!


I had thought that I was speaking to the child's father when I posted, so you being the Mom does make a big difference.

It is the father's place to teach the child (daughter or son) the fundamentals properly which the mother simply can not teach.

Men glamorize war as a way of refusing to face up to the hard realities while women simply glamorize the actions of men, even the ugly barbaric actions as like wars.

If you yourself as the child's mother can not see how utterly ignorant the Civil War reenactment truly is - then surely the 8 year old girl will not, and as such she will thereby be both lost and doomed in her real life.

Just FYI.

:bann:

I had thought that I was speaking to the child's father when I posted, so you being the Mom does make a big difference.

It is the father's place to teach the child (daughter or son) the fundamentals properly which the mother simply can not teach.

Men glamorize war as a way of refusing to face up to the hard realities while women simply glamorize the actions of men, even the ugly barbaric actions as like wars.

If you yourself as the child's mother can not see how utterly ignorant the Civil War reenactment truly is - then surely the 8 year old girl will not, and as such she will thereby be both lost and doomed in her real life.

Just FYI.

:bann:


She didn't ask you or anyone else their opinion on 'war reenactment' just simply where to find a dress. So please shut-up and stop scaring the new people. :ohwell:

I had thought that I was speaking to the child's father when I posted, so you being the Mom does make a big difference.

It is the father's place to teach the child (daughter or son) the fundamentals properly which the mother simply can not teach.
Men glamorize war as a way of refusing to face up to the hard realities while women simply glamorize the actions of men, even the ugly barbaric actions as like wars.

If you yourself as the child's mother can not see how utterly ignorant the Civil War reenactment truly is - then surely the 8 year old girl will not, and as such she will thereby be both lost and doomed in her real life.

Just FYI.

:bann:

What did you teach your son by abandoning him and his mother? You are THE last person who should be giving any sort of parenting advice.

What did you teach your son by abandoning him and his mother? You are THE last person who should be giving any sort of parenting advice.

:drummer: :buddies:

Do you have a way to contact other parents of children doing the reenactment? They could help you I'm sure or at the least give some advice on the matter of where to look in addition to those ideas given above.

:coffee:

Unfortunately no. My parents had my old stuff but loaned it out and never got it back so that option is gone. We just moved here so I do not know anyone anymore that is doing it besides my parents friends but they do not have children's stuff any longer. That is why I am looking around.

Unfortunately no. My parents had my old stuff but loaned it out and never got it back so that option is gone. We just moved here so I do not know anyone anymore that is doing it besides my parents friends but they do not have children's stuff any longer. That is why I am looking around.

Good luck in your search.

kountza, if you go to this link and scroll down to Md., it lists 4 reenactment groups with contact info, i am sure there are probably more. Should be able to contact them and get the scoop.


Civil War reenacting units, Union States (http://nps-vip.net/history/reenact/union.htm)

My parents had my old stuff but loaned it out and never got it back so that option is gone.
I do not know anyone anymore that is doing it besides my parents friends


If you got that programing (that brainwashing) from your parents -

- then now you are passing that garbage onto your own next generation.

:shrug:

If you got that programing (that brainwashing) from your parents -

- then now you are passing that garbage onto your own next generation.

:shrug:

Please stop harrassing Kountza! I am sure she doesn't understand it at all. This is not a controversial thread, like politics or religion... go post on one of those, they love when you show up! Kountza has the right to participate in whatever she wants. Next, are you going to tell her that learning to sew and making a period costume is bad parenting, too? If you need someone to harrass, pick me. I am sure you can think of something that I am doing wrong in my life that is against your principles. I couldn't stand it anymore seeing your posts on this thread keep popping up? I felt the need to butt in.

Edit: Maybe you will want to harrass me on this...My favorite movie is Gone With The Wind, I love history and want to know as much about the Civil War as possible, I have gone to reinactments in Louisiana, in college I went to an event called Old South that one of the fraternities held (I wore an antebellum dress and some of the guys wore confederate uniforms), I love the song Dixie, I own a few civil war relics and a rebel flag...if I think of more, I will post them. Do you harrass the Smithsonian for having exhibits about the Civil War, or Jefferson Patterson Park for holding a War of 1812 reinactment, or the people in southern Maryland who live in historical houses of which the past owners had slaves, or the docents at Sotterly who tell the history of the plantation including the Civil War period? Sheesh!

Please stop harrassing Kountza! I am sure she doesn't understand it at all.


There is no harassing here.

I suppose that you are expecting to get those two new recruits and I am trying to interfere.

Surely the Woman / mother does indeed understand, as she dresses her 8 year old in military clothing then plays like killing people and blowing up people with cannons, then she is completely capable of understanding of how morally reprehensible it is too.

And it is NOT harassing when I post politely and tell the message with decent honesty with due regard for the people involved.



Edit: Maybe you will want to harrass me on this...My favorite movie is Gone With The Wind, I love history and want to know as much about the Civil War as possible, I have gone to reinactments in Louisiana, in college I went to an event called Old South that one of the fraternities held (I wore an antebellum dress), I love the song Dixie, I own a few civil war relics and a rebel flag...if I think of more, I will post them. Do you harrass the Smithsonian for having exhibits about the Civil War, or Jefferson Patterson Park for holding a War of 1812 reinactment, or the people in southern Maryland who live in historical houses of which the past owners had slaves, or the docents at Sotterly who tell the history of the plantation including the Civil War period? Sheesh!

You are correct that everything you name is ugly and nasty to me, and I say you demonstrate the bigger point - that the Civil War reenactment is far more sinister then simply playing murder games, because the Civil war represents the ugly hateful racism and injustices which are directly included in that charade.

You might see the 8 year old as just some new recruit for that debaucheries, but I say the Mom (and the Dad) needs to rightly consider the girl's heart and mind and her soul which are being perverted by those war games.

:dingding:

There is no harassing here.

I suppose that you are expecting to get those two new recruits and I am trying to interfere.

Surely the Woman / mother does indeed understand, as she dresses her 8 year old in military clothing then plays like killing people and blowing up people with cannons, then she is completely capable of understanding of how morally reprehensible it is too.

And it is NOT harassing when I post politely and tell the message with decent honesty with due regard for the people involved.



You are correct that everything you name is ugly and nasty to me, and I say you demonstrate the bigger point - that the Civil War reenactment is far more sinister then simply playing murder games, because the Civil war represents the ugly hateful racism and injustices which are directly included in that charade.

You might see the 8 year old as just some new recruit for that debaucheries, but I say the Mom (and the Dad) needs to rightly consider the girl's heart and mind and her soul which are being perverted by those war games.

:dingding:

Actually..I sincerely hope that this is what gets you tossed off this forum forever. Your misguided and brain-addled political ramblings in the appropriate forum sections are one thing, but this is quite over the top. IMHO. This garbage of yours is what will simply make good people leave and not come back.

The 1900 House (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0250838/)


Glorify WAR indeed ......... More like Honor those who fought

The Journey (http://www.reenactor.net/bookstore/spencer.html)


I got Chills reading that ........

Posted by JP
You are correct that everything you name is ugly and nasty to me, and I say you demonstrate the bigger point - that the Civil War reenactment is far more sinister then simply playing murder games, because the Civil war represents the ugly hateful racism and injustices which are directly included in that charade.

You might see the 8 year old as just some new recruit for that debaucheries, but I say the Mom (and the Dad) needs to rightly consider the girl's heart and mind and her soul which are being perverted by those war games.



:faint:
I tried Kountza...I hope JP is going to leave you alone. ETC is right... we want to remember and honor all soldiers that have fought for what they believe and to protect our country; whether home or abroad. Good luck in finding what you need for the reenactment. I hope your family has a great time and your daughter learns lots about the Civil War!

What did you teach your son by abandoning him and his mother? You are THE last person who should be giving any sort of parenting advice.

You never answered my question...

You never answered my question...

:popcorn:

Thank you! Actually, where do you get your Colonial clothing? Do you make them? My daughter wants and 18th century gown also, she is in love with Colonial Williamsburg but like I posted I do not sew but it looks like I need to learn!! :)

Two excellent distaff, as well as several young ladies who enjoy the challenge of making their own clothing from patterns. For an 8 year old...it might be fun just to practice on a breadbag (haversack) or a cloth fife-case. We will be at Marietta...come by Brooke's company of the Calvert militia.

If I'm there, it will probably rain....so bring a poncho.
I do not know what the cost is for entry but it is several hours of fun for anyone interested in History (unlike JPC who would likely run away screaming from the WWII nurses.)

Will they have alternate endings ?

If soemone can either point me in the right direction or may have something you are willing to sell or help me learn how to sew I would greatly appreciate it. Her first event is May 12th. Thank you so much!!!

For sewing classes, if you don't have any luck at JoAnns, you could try Michaels, Hancocks, or any other fabric store, really. I'm partial to Material Girls in La Plata, but if that's too far for you, there's Michelles Quilts in Hughesville you could try. Both offer classes. I don't know very much about what there is in Calvert or St. Marys. Finally, if you don't want to sign up for one of those and you're free during the day on Fridays, the SoMd Chapter of the American Sewing Guild meets once or twice a month at the Charlotte Hall library at Noon. (see Maryland ASG Home Page (http://www.marylandasg.org) for schedule) Someone at those meetings may have other suggestions. If you have a pattern you're having trouble with, sometimes it really helps just to have a more experienced sewer go over the pattern with you to see how everything is supposed to fit together.

I find sewing to be an excellent skill to have. Although I personally find sewing clothing to be pretty tedious, I love doing other projects with scraps and remnants. I further suggest that if you do decide to make a costume for your daughter, let her be involved with the sewing, that way she can learn how to sew as well.

I would hope that you visit a suttler to get the right kind of fabric.

(pattern & weave)...if you want to be authentic,...make sure both elements fit the era. Reenactors spent countless hours around the fire telling tales of newbies who show up with polyester & velcro plus foil buckles...& safety pins.

machine stitch the hidden seams,....hand stitch the visible.
Its always best to borrow clothing, & spend a weekend with period reenactors who are almost always willing to help/share what they have.
(The smell of wood smoke, kitchen grease, and spark holes add the right patina!)

What did you teach your son by abandoning him and his mother? You are THE last person who should be giving any sort of parenting advice.

:hot:


You never answered my question...


Believe it or not I was trying NOT to take this thread off the subject as we do not have to always talk about me and my business.

But now I see that I was wrong again as this is a real part of this subject and I guess I thank you for pressing me on it.

So yes - I taught my own son the worst possible lessons, and my own son turned out to be very deficient and troubled in horrible ways.

As such I really do believe that I am talking from experience about how a parent can ruin our own children.

I live with my own horrible regrets as my son was severely damaged by my own wrong doing, and as such then I say to any or all other parents to do better than I.

I care and love my son - and every time he does wrong then I myself pay with my own misery.

I never say that I know how to raise a child the best - oh no, but to screw up a child is something which I know very well.

So train up a child to dress up like a soldier and teach them to pretend killing people and tell them lies that war is glamorous and teach them lies that the Civil War was not about the inhumanity of slavery and of white barbarism, and in later years it will be the Mommy who will live with her own regrets.

:shrug:

:hot:


Believe it or not I was trying NOT to take this thread off the subject as we do not have to always talk about me and my business.
But now I see that I was wrong again as this is a real part of this subject and I guess I thank you for pressing me on it.

So yes - I taught my own son the worst possible lessons, and my own son turned out to be very deficient and troubled in horrible ways.

As such I really do believe that I am talking from experience about how a parent can ruin our own children.

I live with my own horrible regrets as my son was severely damaged by my own wrong doing, and as such then I say to any or all other parents to do better than I.

I care and love my son - and every time he does wrong then I myself pay with my own misery.

I never say that I know how to raise a child the best - oh no, but to screw up a child is something which I know very well.

So train up a child to dress up like a soldier and teach them to pretend killing people and tell them lies that war is glamorous and teach them lies that the Civil War was not about the inhumanity of slavery and of white barbarism, and in later years it will be the Mommy who will live with her own regrets.

:shrug:

You attacked the newbie in Post #2 and made this all about you. All she asked about was finding a dress. Now, please be quiet.

:hot:


Believe it or not I was trying NOT to take this thread off the subject as we do not have to always talk about me and my business.

But now I see that I was wrong again as this is a real part of this subject and I guess I thank you for pressing me on it.

So yes - I taught my own son the worst possible lessons, and my own son turned out to be very deficient and troubled in horrible ways.

As such I really do believe that I am talking from experience about how a parent can ruin our own children.

I live with my own horrible regrets as my son was severely damaged by my own wrong doing, and as such then I say to any or all other parents to do better than I.

I care and love my son - and every time he does wrong then I myself pay with my own misery.

I never say that I know how to raise a child the best - oh no, but to screw up a child is something which I know very well.

So train up a child to dress up like a soldier and teach them to pretend killing people and tell them lies that war is glamorous and teach them lies that the Civil War was not about the inhumanity of slavery and of white barbarism, and in later years it will be the Mommy who will live with her own regrets.

:shrug:

If anything I would say Civil War reenactment teaches that war is horrible. It is a part of out History and should be remembered.

You want to know horrible?
Try standing in wool at attention in 90 degree temperatures.

Try itching continuously from straw filled with mites & spiders.

Try having the newbie next to you load triple the gunpowder before it goes off with a roaring explosion.

Try eating yesterday's dinner out of an iron pot.

Try crawling across a battlefield in searing heat and knowing you are 20 minutes from heat stroke.

Try shivering in a canvas tent with two blankets & a bed roll at 26 degrees.

....and doing this to push yourself & teach others about sacrifice, duty, loyalty, and regret.
Until then, shut your pie hole jpc.

Hessian :clap:

The Civil War is part of our history and the fact this young girl is only 8 years old and interested is amazing. kountza is a great parent for not only spending time with her daughter but also doing something as educational as this. JP, you cannot possibly make up for your mistakes by pushing your unwanted advice onto others. You failed as a parent, kountza won't.

:hot:


Believe it or not I was trying NOT to take this thread off the subject as we do not have to always talk about me and my business.

But now I see that I was wrong again as this is a real part of this subject and I guess I thank you for pressing me on it.

So yes - I taught my own son the worst possible lessons, and my own son turned out to be very deficient and troubled in horrible ways.

As such I really do believe that I am talking from experience about how a parent can ruin our own children.

I live with my own horrible regrets as my son was severely damaged by my own wrong doing, and as such then I say to any or all other parents to do better than I.

I care and love my son - and every time he does wrong then I myself pay with my own misery.

I never say that I know how to raise a child the best - oh no, but to screw up a child is something which I know very well.

So train up a child to dress up like a soldier and teach them to pretend killing people and tell them lies that war is glamorous and teach them lies that the Civil War was not about the inhumanity of slavery and of white barbarism, and in later years it will be the Mommy who will live with her own regrets.

:shrug:
Your son probably would of been a great man if you did Civil war reenactments with him, or for that matter ANYTHING with him..

You have got to be the biggest piece of crap in tje entire state.

This message is to JP... I am asking you to PLEASE STOP HARASSING ME AND MY FAMILY!! You do not know me and clearly you are assuming things that are not true. She is NOT dressing as a soldier and if she did SO WHAT!!! You can not ignore the the past like it never happened. IFyou do not teach what has happened in the past and talk about the mistakes that took place and try to live and learn from your mistakes you can succeed. If not everyone WILL END UP LIKE YOU AND THAT IS SCARY!!! People that are so close minded like you make the world a sad place. I am raising my daughter to be completely open minded, love everyone no matter what their past may be. You do not know me or how I was raised. Like I said before I am a mlitary wife and family WHO LOVES OUR COUNTRY VERY MUCH AND I AM SO PROUD OF THOSE WHO SERVE AND HAVE SACRIFICED THEMSELVES FOR US! You should be too but I see you are not. I assume you are one of those people that do not honor our flag or soldiers when asked. That makes me sad and embarassed. Do you stand when you see our flag or hear our National Athem? When you hear that or see that flag if it was not for our fore fathers before us where would we be today? Ponder that! AGAIN- PLEASE DO NOT POST ON THIS THREAD AGAIN AND HARASS ME!

JP is an arse and from this point forward I will ignore him, because he is not worth my time and energy to respond to.
FIXED

You can't let this loser upset you. Unfortunately, all public forums have "trolls". :huggy: Ignoring him is the best thing for your personal happiness. He doesn't know you IRL, and trust me, you wouldn't want to know him IRL. Responding to him is feeding the troll, and is exactly what he wants. Don't give it to him. And don't let him ruin this forum for you.

Hello I'm a member of the 20th Maine co E and there will be a bunch of us down at FT. Lincoln at Pt. Lookout this saturday doing our annual black powder certification, you and your family are more than welcome to stop by for a visit, goes for all forum members to.

I wish I could but my daughter is making her 1st communion this weekend and we will have family down and our weekend is packed already but keep me posted on what you guys having on and we would love to visit!

Kountza, please don't take JP's words seriously. He is delusional and a joke to everyone on the forums. You can receive some good advice from most folks.


Something helpful when posting is using the "Reply w/ Quote" feature (in the bottom right of each post), so it's clear to whom you are responding. Typical form is to type below the one you are quoting. You can also quote multiple posts by clicking the quote ( " ) symbol then "Reply w/ Quote" on the last one. For fun, you can edit someone's post, like so:
I make about as much sense as a bicycle with square wheels.


I enjoy watching reenactments, so I hope you and your daughter hook up with a good group and have fun. :cheers:

The next event is the second weekend in June for Blue and Gray days

I've always wondered in a Civil war reenactment do you get typecast if you’re black?

There are a couple of USCT groups in the Maryland and Virgina areas and the local Sons of Union Vetrens camp is named after Sgt. James H. Harris who was one of two of St.Marys counties colored troops who won the Medal of Honor.

I would hope that you visit a suttler to get the right kind of fabric.

(pattern & weave)...if you want to be authentic,...make sure both elements fit the era. Reenactors spent countless hours around the fire telling tales of newbies who show up with polyester & velcro plus foil buckles...& safety pins.

machine stitch the hidden seams,....hand stitch the visible.
Its always best to borrow clothing, & spend a weekend with period reenactors who are almost always willing to help/share what they have.
(The smell of wood smoke, kitchen grease, and spark holes add the right patina!)

One of the funniest things I've seen recently was at the WaWa in King George, VA. I walked out of the store to go back to my car and there was a gentleman standing outside in full Civil War attire with a Bluetooth headset in his ear. Gave me quite a chuckle.

Oh, and ignore JPC. :dork: