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Laurie's Story

What would you do if you woke up one morning and realized that everything you've been taught, everything you've known, everything you've thought was truth was not. As a matter of fact, everything was a lie. And this lie was taught to you by the people you love most in the world, your parents. This has been what has been revealed to me over the last few years of my life.

You see, I grew up in a religion that claimed to be God's sole channel of communication to mankind on Earth. And everything pointed to us being right. In our religion we were taught not to smoke, not to drink too much, not to do anything contrary to the Ten Commandments. We were a religious people, and after all weren't we the ones that went out and preached the good news from door to door like Jesus taught.

We were taught that we were God's happy people. We were the chosen ones and every other church was "of the Devil", Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion. We were really special. This was evident by how we didn't salute the flag, sing Oh Canada, or celebrate pagan holidays. We were taught the cross was evil and that's why all the churches had them in them and on them. This would make us cringe as young people. From the time we were little we were taught to hate the cross, and to fear them and anything to do with false religion.

Complete story at
Laurie's Story (http://www.towerwatch.com/Testimonies/lauries_story.htm)

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You see, I grew up in a religion that claimed to be God's sole channel of communication to mankind on Earth. And everything pointed to us being right.You should be heavily questioning yourself too then, right?

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OMG. :killingme

You should be heavily questioning yourself too then, right?

My faith and trust is solely in The New Testament Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. He is The Way, The Truth and The Life. (John 14:6)

All other Jesus' are imposters - No question about it!

:buddies:

My faith and trust is solely in The New Testament Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour.Yeah, I know. That's what they all say. :ohwell:

[QUOTE=hvp05;4807650]Yeah, I know. That's what they all say.

Who are the they in your statement "That's what they all say."?

Do you know?

Why do you folks worry about what other people believe?
Can't you just be secure in the knowledge that your religious beliefs are the correct version and let other folks believe what they want?

Why do you folks worry about what other people believe?
Can't you just be secure in the knowledge that your religious beliefs are the correct version and let other folks believe what they want?

That would make for about the worst bigot there is..

How could they be hateful loathsome bigots if they "lived and let live"?

Why do you folks worry about what other people believe?
Can't you just be secure in the knowledge that your religious beliefs are the correct version and let other folks believe what they want?

Finally!! Something I agree with you on! :buddies:

Who are the they in your statement "That's what they all say."?

Do you know?Obviously I meant Satan worshippers. Always running around yelling, "My faith and trust is solely in The New Testament Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour." Who did you think?

Obviously I meant Satan worshippers. Always running around yelling, "My faith and trust is solely in The New Testament Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour." Who did you think?

We have told you the TRUTH, Bird Dog, but you would rather believe a lie and scoff at the warnings that b23hqb, ItalianScallion and I have been bold enough to tell you about.

You claim to believe in Jesus but you are believing in another Jesus that the RCC has indoctrinated you to believe in. It's a "false Jesus" that Paul warned people about and one that the Real Jesus warned that there would be "false christs" that would deceive people.

Yes, my faith and trust is solely in the New Testament Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. He's the ONE that you really need to know to become a born-again Child of God. The other Jesus' preached by the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Moonies, etc. are also among those "false christs" that millions of people have been deceived into placing their trust in.

The New Testament Jesus Christ does NOT share His Glory with anyone else and He is NOT accompanied in Heaven with "The Queen of Heaven" as the RCC has indoctrinated you to believe.

Like other pseudo-Christian cults, the RCC has deceived a Billion people with outright heresy by preaching another gospel, another "Jesus" and (in this case) "another Mary" that are not from the accounts of the New Testament Gospels nor from Old Testament Prophecy.

In the final analysis:
There Is Only One Truth (John 14:6)

Obviously I meant Satan worshippers. Always running around yelling, "My faith and trust is solely in The New Testament Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour." Who did you think?

We have told you the TRUTH, Bird Dog, but you would rather believe a lie and scoff at the warnings that b23hqb, ItalianScallion and I have been bold enough to tell you about.

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As far as I can see Bird Dog hasn't even posted in this thread. Obsessed much? :eyebrow:

As far as I can see Bird Dog hasn't even posted in this thread. Obsessed much? :eyebrow:

pssst... bird dog is hvp....:yay:

We have told you the TRUTH, Bird Dogpssst... bird dog is hvp....News to me. Then again, everyone who can get on the Intardnet must be a Super Genius, so it must be true! :yahoo:

As far as I can see Bird Dog hasn't 5even posted in this thread. Obsessed much? :eyebrow:

LOL
hvp05 sounds too much like Bird Dog - perhaps he is Bird Dog's "demon seed" (one in the same) - for example his "hounding" response to b23hqb:

I still think you are SM 's demon seed lurking in a swamp in Florida.

Are there not enough Florida forums that you can spew your rhetoric?

Now Bird Dog has been posted (by proxy) in this thread! :killingme:

hvp05 sounds too much like Bird Dog:confused: I see no similarities other than that we both disagree with you. As hard as it is for you to comprehend, there is more than one person here who does not see things exactly the way you do.

:confused: I see no similarities other than that we both disagree with you. As hard as it is for you to comprehend, there is more than one person here who does not see things exactly the way you do.

Okay - so do you agree then with Bird Dog?

Do you see things exactly the way he does?

Do you level remarks at him the same as you do with those who proclaim faith in The New Testament Jesus Christ?

BTW: Was it you or was it Bird Dog who once stated that there was "no New Testament Jesus Christ"? After you posted the following you sure sounded like a Bird Dog clone:

Obviously I meant Satan worshippers. Always running around yelling, "My faith and trust is solely in The New Testament Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour." Who did you think?

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Okay - so do you agree then with Bird Dog?

Do you see things exactly the way he does?Not quite. He's a Catholic, and I am not.

But what difference would it make if we did see things exactly the same way? Are you, IS, and b23 all the same person because you mirror each other? That you all hang together makes no difference to me, and I'm certainly not going to grill you about it.


Do you level remarks at him the same as you do with those who proclaim faith in The New Testament Jesus Christ?He doesn't post as often as you and IS, and when he does it's usually directed at you for being a 'parrot' then he moves along. (I think his parrot spiel is abrasive, but it does make me :lol:.)


BTW: Was it you or was it Bird Dog who once stated that there was "no New Testament Jesus Christ"?Maybe not in so many words, but I am an atheist so...


After you posted the following you sure sounded like a Bird Dog clone:That's because you lump together everyone not like you. Not the first time you have had trouble c-o-m-p-r-e-h-e-n-d-i-n-g what I have said either. When I responded to b23 I was using a little technique I call Sarcasm.

Why do you folks worry about what other people believe? Can't you just be secure in the knowledge that your religious beliefs are the correct version and let other folks believe what they want?
It's called CARING. So you really don't care if your friends & loved ones end up in Hell forever? Well, some of us here DO care about that so we're going to tell them the truth and hope they listen.
That would make for about the worst bigot there is..How could they be hateful loathsome bigots if they "lived and let live"?
You mean: Live and let die? Actually Bob, you're the real hateful bigot on here. You don't try to "win souls" and you want us to hush. That's clearly an act of not caring about others. Our caring acts look bigoted and hateful to you. Should we stop caring because you've chosen not to care? Ain't gonna happen bud'...

...That's because you lump together everyone not like you. Not the first time you have had trouble c-o-m-p-r-e-h-e-n-d-i-n-g what I have said either. When I responded to b23 I was using a little technique I call Sarcasm.

That's the similarity! That's why when I read your post it sure sounded exactly like something Bird Dog would say in response, thus, I inadvertently typed his ID instead of yours. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :popcorn:

Hi,

I'm back and definitely not HVP, but if he annoys SM & IS we are buddy's:buddies:

You all are really getting sensitive.

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BTW: Was it you or was it Bird Dog who once stated that there was "no New Testament Jesus Christ"? StarrParrot.

It was me, there is only one Jesus Christ, you are the one who claims there are a bunch of them.

Hi,

I'm back and definitely not HVP, but if he annoys SM & IS we are buddy's:buddies:

You all are really getting sensitive.

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BTW: Was it you or was it Bird Dog who once stated that there was "no New Testament Jesus Christ"? StarrParrot.

It was me, there is only one Jesus Christ, you are the one who claims there are a bunch of them.

Yes, when I compared all the other religions who claim to believe in "Jesus" (including the RCC) the obvious result is that there are a "bunch of them" as in the following:

1.) The "RCC Jesus" who is accompanied in Heaven by Mary where she now reigns as the "Queen of Heaven" and can be prayed to and helps souls get into Heaven;

2.) The "Mormon Jesus" who is not God at all but a separate being from God (Heavenly Father) and has multiple heavenly wives, is the "spirit brother of Satan" and will set up His Kingdom in North America (instead of Jerusalem) etc...

3.) The "Jehovah's Witness Jesus" whom they claim is the archangel Michael and who will only take 144,000 faithful JWs to Heaven while the rest of the faithful JWs will live on earth as a "restored paradise"

4.) The "Jesus of Islam" known as Isa' was not really "The Son of God" was not really crucified, is really a "Muslim" and is going to condemn people for believing he was "God's Son"...

5.) The "Jesus of the Moonies" who appeared to Sun Myung Moon on a Korean mountainside and told him to "restore the truth" to the earth...

BUT WAIT! There's Still More...


For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22)

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (2 Corinthians 11:4)


Conclusion: It isn't me who said there would be a bunch of christs; it was The New Testament Jesus and Apostle Paul who gave that warning. I'm just pointing out and identifying which ones in these days are the "false christs" that people are believing in rather than knowing and placing faith in the True New Testament Jesus.

Yes, when I compared all the other religions who claim to believe in "Jesus" (including the RCC) the obvious result is that there are a "bunch of them" as in the following:
1.) The "RCC Jesus"
2.) The "Mormon Jesus"
3.) The "Jehovah's Witness Jesus"
4.) The "Jesus of Islam"
5.) The "Jesus of the Moonies"
[Jesus.

Only "Five"

The way you were posting, I thought we would need canon fire to sort them all out.

You forgot one though!

6.) The "StarrParrott Jesus".

6.) The "StarrParrott Jesus".He must have been the one who declared, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy SQUAAAWK."








Sorry, Star, I had to.

It's called CARING. So you really don't care if your friends & loved ones end up in Hell forever? Well, some of us here DO care about that so we're going to tell them the truth and hope they listen.

You mean: Live and let die? Actually Bob, you're the real hateful bigot on here. You don't try to "win souls" and you want us to hush. That's clearly an act of not caring about others. Our caring acts look bigoted and hateful to you. Should we stop caring because you've chosen not to care? Ain't gonna happen bud'...

Actually you' be wrong...

I care, apparenty, for my fellow man MUCH more than you do.

I have faith that as individuals, we have the right, the intellect, and ability to research for ourseleves what is best for us. You believe you've found what is best for you, I believe I have found what is best for me. The only difference is I don't tell people that if they don't believe what I believe they will spend all eternity in hell..

I'm tolerant, MUCH more tolerant than thou art, of people's other beliefs. I may DISAGREE with them, but I don't tell them they believe in the wrong Jesus because they don't believe in MY Jesus..

I also tell them that you shouldn't be judged on what you believe, or what church you go to, but what kind of basic PERSON you are. Atheists can be good people, as well as Jehovah Witnesses, and Mormons, and EVEN Catholics.. MAYBE there are even decent Born Agains (but I'm starting to doubt it).. But at the end of day, and at the end of your life, you shoul be judged not by what you believed or didn't, but how you treated others.. IF there is a heaven, I'm sure there will be MANY more atheists there than "Christians" of your ilk.

You're an #######.. pure and simple.. IF there is a Heaven, I would think #######s and dickheads aren't going to be welcome.

Actually you' be wrong...

I care, apparenty, for my fellow man MUCH more than you do.

I have faith that as individuals, we have the right, the intellect, and ability to research for ourseleves what is best for us. You believe you've found what is best for you, I believe I have found what is best for me. The only difference is I don't tell people that if they don't believe what I believe they will spend all eternity in hell..

I'm tolerant, MUCH more tolerant than thou art, of people's other beliefs. I may DISAGREE with them, but I don't tell them they believe in the wrong Jesus because they don't believe in MY Jesus..

I also tell them that you shouldn't be judged on what you believe, or what church you go to, but what kind of basic PERSON you are. Atheists can be good people, as well as Jehovah Witnesses, and Mormons, and EVEN Catholics.. MAYBE there are even decent Born Agains (but I'm starting to doubt it).. But at the end of day, and at the end of your life, you shoul be judged not by what you believed or didn't, but how you treated others.. IF there is a heaven, I'm sure there will be MANY more atheists there than "Christians" of your ilk.

You're an #######.. pure and simple.. IF there is a Heaven, I would think #######s and dickheads aren't going to be welcome.
Nice hateful, demonic name calling, eh? Sounds like you're out of ammo but anyhow, what proof do you have that you are right? If it's your opinion vs mine, you have a chance but, if it's what God said vs what you've said, you're not even close. You truly don't understand spiritual things because we are commanded to tell others that they're "on the highway to Hell". What kind of person wouldn't warn his friends if their lives were in mortal danger?

You truly don't understand spiritual things because we are commanded to tell others that they're "on the highway to Hell". What kind of person wouldn't warn his friends if their lives were in mortal danger?

Who is commanding you to tell everyone they are going to hell because they don't believe what you belive?

I'm assuming your church leadership in the guise of recruiting more of YOUR families and freinds to THEIR church..

You just don't get it. You're doing the bidding of PEOPLE, not the Bible, not for religion.. They have found a way for you to actively try to recruit others from other churches to fill their pews and coffers.. and make you feel good about berating people and calling them stupid and condemned.

NOT a church any sane, intelligent person would choose to be a part of.

Who is commanding you to tell everyone they are going to hell because they don't believe what you belive?

I'm assuming your church leadership in the guise of recruiting more of YOUR families and freinds to THEIR church..

You just don't get it. You're doing the bidding of PEOPLE, not the Bible, not for religion.. They have found a way for you to actively try to recruit others from other churches to fill their pews and coffers.. and make you feel good about berating people and calling them stupid and condemned.

NOT a church any sane, intelligent person would choose to be a part of.
Jesus commanded us to. Your worldly thinking cannot follow this line of reasoning. I have NO church to send these people to and I get no money for helping them get saved. I do this is out of love & gratitude to God.

There will be a lot of shocked people who find that their thinking was wrong and cost them their entire eternal future. God said that it is possible for a person to gain the whole world but lose his soul...