This evening on CBS News they had a story about the horrendous debt college graduates have to shoulder these days. The Obongo came on in a video clip that said it was critical for Congress 'right now' to pass a law that prevents interest on Federal student loans from skyrocketing to 6+% in July. Then as an example of horrendous debt was a student with $80K in debt for a George Washington University degree in Sociology-Women's Studies. He doesn't know how he'll pay those bills. He is considering going into teaching. My question: What in hell else can he do with a degree in Sociology-Women's Studies?

Study matriarchal societies?

:drummer:

Why do students accumulate so much debt for a degree in an area of study that will never produce great financial success? Going to a high dollar university for an expensive education in, say, art history and amassing $60,000 in student loans/other debt, will almost certainly fail to produce a job that pays well.

I am ok with freezing Fed Ed loans @ whatever % they are, maybe it will stop him from just plain forgiving them and making everyone else pay

How about working your way through school instead of partying your way through school? :confused:

:yay: Common sense is so rare anymore. :mad:

Why do students accumulate so much debt for a degree in an area of study that will never produce great financial success? Going to a high dollar university for an expensive education in, say, art history and amassing $60,000 in student loans/other debt, will almost certainly fail to produce a job that pays well.

I ask myself this every day.

Becca graduates next month with her masters in art history.

I tried to guide her and she did what she wanted to do. Abundant scholarships but NYC is expensive. She took out loans just to live there.

Ugh! She has numerous loans to pay off and I will not be able to help.

She was class valedictorian and :blah: :blah:

Straight A's even in advanced math. Ugh again. High School and College. Straight A's again for her Masters.

I failed.

On top of it all, she's burnt out.

For an Art History degree.

She did get free trips to London and overseas study all paid for by her schools. Still.

I feel like a failure for not putting my foot down.

Why doesn't Obama chastise the public university system for running up the cost of a college degree with extravagant salary's for professors, crushing overhead costs, because of the cathedrals they build, ridiculous elective courses to suck a few more dollars, the sinister hand shake with publishers to turn over text book profit and huge staffs that work part time for full time wages?

Why doesn't Obama chastise the public university system for running up the cost of a college degree?

Because the government makes more money.

Because the government makes more money.

I don't follow. Instead of enabling people to go even further in debt by lowering interest rates, why not curb the grotesque excess and waste in the public university system?

I don't follow. Instead of enabling people to go even further in debt by lowering interest rates, why not curb the grotesque excess and waste in the public university system?

I don't follow either.

She could have done anything and had no debt.

Her tuition room and board were over 40K/year. All paid including tuition overseas (super smart and a dumb choice of a major)

I only had to buy her laptops and drive her to and fro.

MD and DE would have paid for everything. She will now pay for her choices.

The price of education is ridiculous. Ar least she had that all paid for. She's almost 24 and this is her debt due to her decisions.

NYC? Her choices to get a useless degree. She would have been a great doctor, but that will be useless soon.

Her artwork might be worth a lot when she's dead.

I am being negative and need to be positive.

My daughter graduates high school this year and was looking at colleges. She got scholarships that paid half the tuition but that still left 20k a year to pay off.

She is taking a couple of classes at the community college this summer while working. So far she is going for paralegal. She does not want to get a loan and be under tons of debt.

I ask myself this every day.

Becca graduates next month with her masters in art history.

I tried to guide her and she did what she wanted to do. Abundant scholarships but NYC is expensive. She took out loans just to live there.

Ugh! She has numerous loans to pay off and I will not be able to help.

She was class valedictorian and :blah: :blah:

Straight A's even in advanced math. Ugh again. High School and College. Straight A's again for her Masters.

I failed.

On top of it all, she's burnt out.

For an Art History degree.

She did get free trips to London and overseas study all paid for by her schools. Still.

I feel like a failure for not putting my foot down.


you didn't fail wenchy...but never stop reminding her that she did. and when she comes to you asking for money to pay off her bad choices, remind her some more & tell her to go correct her own mistakes since she was soooo smart for the last 4 years of her wasted life

you didn't fail wenchy...but never stop reminding her that she did. and when she comes to you asking for money to pay off her bad choices, remind her some more & tell her to go correct her own mistakes since she was soooo smart for the last 4 years of her wasted life
Going to college is considered a failure these days? She's at NYU for crying out loud. I'd say she's got a pretty good future ahead of her.

Going to college is considered a failure these days? She's at NYU for crying out loud. I'd say she's got a pretty good future ahead of her.

My oldest daughter graduated cum laude from NYU in 2006.

She returns to college this fall to obtain an MBA. She's hoping that that degree will finally make it possible for her to get a decent paying job.

Going to college is considered a failure these days? She's at NYU for crying out loud. I'd say she's got a pretty good future ahead of her.

Guess I should look up the lucrative salaries of Art History jobs before making such a statement

This evening on CBS News they had a story about the horrendous debt college graduates have to shoulder these days. The Obongo came on in a video clip that said it was critical for Congress 'right now' to pass a law that prevents interest on Federal student loans from skyrocketing to 6+% in July. Then as an example of horrendous debt was a student with $80K in debt for a George Washington University degree in Sociology-Women's Studies. He doesn't know how he'll pay those bills. He is considering going into teaching. My question: What in hell else can he do with a degree in Sociology-Women's Studies?

He can get a job at a university teaching other useless idiots women studies.

I don't follow either.

She could have done anything and had no debt.

Her tuition room and board were over 40K/year. All paid including tuition overseas (super smart and a dumb choice of a major)

I only had to buy her laptops and drive her to and fro.

MD and DE would have paid for everything. She will now pay for her choices.

The price of education is ridiculous. Ar least she had that all paid for. She's almost 24 and this is her debt due to her decisions.

NYC? Her choices to get a useless degree. She would have been a great doctor, but that will be useless soon.

Her artwork might be worth a lot when she's dead.

I am being negative and need to be positive.


It is called an MRS Degree. Hopefully she marries well.

Guess I should look up the lucrative salaries of Art History jobs before making such a statement

Well in 2008 it was at 268 out of 300. At least she is not at 294 - Coroner

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This evening on CBS News they had a story about the horrendous debt college graduates have to shoulder these days. The Obongo came on in a video clip that said it was critical for Congress 'right now' to pass a law that prevents interest on Federal student loans from skyrocketing to 6+% in July. Then as an example of horrendous debt was a student with $80K in debt for a George Washington University degree in Sociology-Women's Studies. He doesn't know how he'll pay those bills. He is considering going into teaching. My question: What in hell else can he do with a degree in Sociology-Women's Studies?

Here is what she can do:

Go to school AGAIN and learn a historically male-dominated trade, such as welding, and use her background in 'women's studies' to monitor her growth and then write a book about it. :shrug:

:yay:

I ask myself this every day.

Becca graduates next month with her masters in art history.

I tried to guide her and she did what she wanted to do. Abundant scholarships but NYC is expensive. She took out loans just to live there.

Ugh! She has numerous loans to pay off and I will not be able to help.

She was class valedictorian and :blah: :blah:

Straight A's even in advanced math. Ugh again. High School and College. Straight A's again for her Masters.

I failed.

On top of it all, she's burnt out.

For an Art History degree.

She did get free trips to London and overseas study all paid for by her schools. Still.

I feel like a failure for not putting my foot down.

I ####ed this up, too with two of the kids being all excited that they got into these expensive, prestigious schools. They weren't ready and I had this vague sense that, somehow, it would all work out fine. I'll have to work on that whole 'hope' thing. :lol:

The last kid, we did on the cheap AND it was the right school, right time.
The first kid took charge beginning of senior year and has been in charge of his happy, successful life ever since; we got out of the way basically. Other than the whole 19D fiasco, of course. Which damn near killed his mother. Or, she damn near killed him. I get it confused. :lol:

I ask myself this every day.

Becca graduates next month with her masters in art history.

I tried to guide her and she did what she wanted to do. Abundant scholarships but NYC is expensive. She took out loans just to live there.

Ugh! She has numerous loans to pay off and I will not be able to help.

She was class valedictorian and :blah: :blah:

Straight A's even in advanced math. Ugh again. High School and College. Straight A's again for her Masters.

I failed.

On top of it all, she's burnt out.

For an Art History degree.

She did get free trips to London and overseas study all paid for by her schools. Still.

I feel like a failure for not putting my foot down.

Wen, Becca has had experiences that she will take with her and use for life. So she has an Art History degree that may not make her any money - she also has the experience of living in NYC and studying abroad, figuring out how to take care of herself in the big city, learning how to buckle down and work (a Masters does not come easy). Those experiences and skills are her takeaway, not necessarily the degree itself, and they are important.

Wen, Becca has had experiences that she will take with her and use for life. So she has an Art History degree that may not make her any money - she also has the experience of living in NYC and studying abroad, figuring out how to take care of herself in the big city, learning how to buckle down and work (a Masters does not come easy). Those experiences and skills are her takeaway, not necessarily the degree itself, and they are important.

:yeahthat: Life experiences can never be taken away from you... everything we do and everything we are exposed to in life ultimately make us who we are... if she ends up being a housewife raising babies 5 years from now... she will be doing so happily knowing she has seen the world and experienced what she has...:yay: