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Railroad
05-15-2012, 10:49 AM
From Israeli Channel 7 News Website:
King David's 3,025th Birthday Celebrated at New Museum
by Gil Ronen
A new museum in Tel Aviv – the Beit David Museum, dedicated to the House of David – offers two fun-filled free days honoring the holiday of Shavuot, which is also celebrated as the 3,025th birthday of greatest Jewish king ever.
The twin-day treat will take place on Monday, 21.5, and Tuesday, 22.5. It will include a lecture at 7:00 p.m. Monday by Dr. Chaim Luria on genealogy and King David's DNA, and events for children starting at 11:00 a.m. on the following day. These will include actors dressed as biblical characters who will teach the children about King David in a fun way.
The museum, located on 5 Brenner St. in central Tel Aviv, opened just four months ago. It contains archeological exhibits from First and Second Temple times and includes artifacts of special significance in the story of King David: for instance, one section displays slingshot stones found in the Emek HaEla region, where David killed Goliath with a single accurate stone to the head.
In another room, a video shows the life of King David, from his humble beginning as a lonely shepherd until his anointment as king. Another video explains the art of lyre-making, and based on writings that describe how King David built the lyres he played.
The museum prides itself on the Genealogy Center, a database that traces the descendants of King David to this very day. It is centered on Rashi, a famous descendant of David, and his progeny. It includes over 100 surnames of present-day families descended from the greatest king of all. The results of the research are presented in the museum and can be accessed through a special website.
Susan Roth, founder of the King David Museum and the Genealogy Center, is herself a direct descendant of King David.
Zguy28
05-15-2012, 12:44 PM
I wonder what their genealogy says right around the year 4 BC? :coffee:
b23hqb
05-15-2012, 12:50 PM
3,025, eh? What's a century or five when you get up there in that range?
David - a man after Gods own heart. David is proof that if he can be saved and redeemed, anyone can. In spite of the horrible crimes he committed, that we know of, he was still approved of God because of his sincere repentance and contrition of heart.
Sounds like this event would be pretty cool to attend.
Railroad
05-15-2012, 12:57 PM
3,025, eh? What's a century or five when you get up there in that range?
David - a man after Gods own heart. David is proof that if he can be saved and redeemed, anyone can. In spite of the horrible crimes he committed, that we know of, he was still approved of God because of his sincere repentance and contrition of heart.
Sounds like this event would be pretty cool to attend.
Certainly very educational. :yay:
Railroad
05-15-2012, 01:06 PM
I wonder what their genealogy says right around the year 4 BC? :coffee:
My conversations with "man-on-the-street" Jews have left me with the impression that their opinions on Christ run the gamut, but that most believe He really was born and lived as reported in the Bible. The disagreement comes when we mention the word "Messiah." At that point, only Messianic Jews are still communicating with me.
b23hqb
05-15-2012, 01:40 PM
My conversations with "man-on-the-street" Jews have left me with the impression that their opinions on Christ run the gamut, but that most believe He really was born and lived as reported in the Bible. The disagreement comes when we mention the word "Messiah." At that point, only Messianic Jews are still communicating with me.
I don't know if you have any Christian radio stations up there that carry Dr. Michael Brown, a Messianic Jew that absolutely defends Jesus as the Messiah. He is fun and very educational to listen to, as he strives to convince Jewdom the truth of the Savior.
Zguy28
05-15-2012, 09:00 PM
I don't know if you have any Christian radio stations up there that carry Dr. Michael Brown, a Messianic Jew that absolutely defends Jesus as the Messiah. He is fun and very educational to listen to, as he strives to convince Jewdom the truth of the Savior.So, what is the point of being a "Messianic Jew"? I mean essentially that's what being a Christian is right? (not being sarcastic here) Adoption as an heir to the promise given to Abraham and grafted into Israel (Paul says these things). The same Paul also confronted Peter openly about being too Jewish it seems. God also confronted Peter about following food laws when He had declared them now clean.
Do "Messianic Jews" believe in keeping all the Laws of Moses still?
Railroad
05-16-2012, 06:55 AM
So, what is the point of being a "Messianic Jew"? I mean essentially that's what being a Christian is right? (not being sarcastic here) Adoption as an heir to the promise given to Abraham and grafted into Israel (Paul says these things). The same Paul also confronted Peter openly about being too Jewish it seems. God also confronted Peter about following food laws when He had declared them now clean.
Do "Messianic Jews" believe in keeping all the Laws of Moses still?
The answer most people don't like: "It depends." Some do and some don't (believe in keeping all the laws of Moses). The same can be said of most Jews anyway. Some "keep Kosher" by observing the dietary restrictions and some don't. It's a matter of personal conscience, not a matter of dispute.
The Messianic Jews I have experience with observe the traditional liturgy in Shabbat (Sabbath) services, but the prayers are significantly different because of Yeshuah ha Mashiach (Jesus Messiah). They observe the feasts described in the Old Testament. They also observe Christmas and Easter and Palm Sunday and Good Friday, etc.
Their teachings mingle the Pentateuch (first 5 books of the Bible, aka the Torah) with all scriptures in the Bible, although there is also available the Complete Jewish Bible which uses traditional Hebrew names for people and in some cases corrects word usage to match original manuscripts more closely.
There is a depth to the Messianic view that I didn't find elsewhere, because the focus is broadened to include the Old Testament basis of a lot of the New Testament teachings and events. It is useful, I discovered, to also look at the Talmud (which includes Rabinical writings) in exploring the ideas and principles set forth in the Scriptures.
As Paul says, we Gentiles are adopted into the Royal Family and are thus equal heirs with Jesus and the Jews. In Jewish tradition, that would also have us participating in all family worship and eventually attending Synagogue with the family. I have done so, and the experience is beautiful, wonderful - but lengthy. No 1-hour service there! It takes as long as it takes.
I view my Church family and my Messianic family as parts of the same BIG family known to many as the Body of Christ. That Body is made up of those who have a relationship with Him, in their hearts and not in a superficial way. Only He knows who the "real" members are.
b23hqb
05-16-2012, 09:36 AM
A number of years ago, we had two families of Messianic Jews that regularly attended our Sunday services (Breaking of Bread and Family Bible Hour) and Wednesday night meetings. They also attended their Sabbath (Friday sundown through Saturday sundown) with their congregation of Messianic Jews.
They obeyed a lot of the tenants of Judaism, including holidays, circumcision, etc. They believe baptism by immersion is the only sacrament.
Messianic Jews refer to Jesus by his Hebrew name, Yeshua. They believe in and accept him as the Messiah promised in the Old Testament, and believe he died an atoning death for the sins of humanity, was raised from the dead and is alive today. Pretty much like born-again believers of the Christian faith.
A big difference of opinion lies in following kosher dietary rules or not.
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