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Misfit
05-22-2012, 01:04 PM
NC pastor Charles Worley wants to isolate gays, lesbians until they ''die out'' | wtsp.com (http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/256113/81/Pastor-wants-to-isolate-gays-until-they-die-out)
Maiden, NC (WBTV) -- A North Carolina pastor's sermon is going viral after he explained his controversial plan to "get rid of" lesbians and homosexuals.
The video shows a sermon from Pastor Charles L. Worley from Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, North Carolina. The sermon was record on May 13, according to the church's website.
Click on the video above to watch the sermon. WARNING: Contains graphic language
Larry Gude
05-22-2012, 01:49 PM
:killingme
That is ####ing priceless!!!
Chasey_Lane
05-22-2012, 04:06 PM
Heterosexual people should stop having gay babies! Problem solved!!
PsyOps
05-22-2012, 04:31 PM
I'm 'again' pastors like this. :lol:
hvp05
05-22-2012, 08:28 PM
What is supposed to be the difference between a queer and a homosexual?
I don't know how to begin cracking into the logic of separating them so they'll die off. :lol:
Larry Gude
05-23-2012, 06:52 AM
What is supposed to be the difference between a queer and a homosexual?
I don't know how to begin cracking into the logic of separating them so they'll die off. :lol:
Well, y'ah see, in the King James bahble, you got yer queers and you got yer homo-sex-u-alls and then you got yer lets be ins. Back then when there weren't no gaht damn liberals in the way, they penned 'em all up and air dropped food to 'em one-st in awhile and then they done died off, all of 'em. Now, I ain't fer sure how they done come back to life and such but, we can know for damn sure hellfire and all damnation they sure didn't let no queers roam around free like they wuz just folks yah see.
Now, the lovin' thing to do for 'em, to save 'em you see, is to pen them sumbytches up agin' and let 'em die off agin'. Says so right in mah bahble and I hain't ashamed of that, no sir, not one bit.
Lovin' yer feller man, in a non queer bait way of course, is tough, y'ah see but, by thunder and Firestone, we'z got's to do what our bahble's tell's us to do or we ain't no better 'n them there queers and homos and lets be ins. Love y'er feller man it says and freeing them from their sin once-st and fer all is real love. Just not in no queer way.
Can I git an a-men?
Merlin99
05-23-2012, 08:43 AM
NC pastor Charles Worley wants to isolate gays, lesbians until they ''die out'' | wtsp.com (http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/256113/81/Pastor-wants-to-isolate-gays-until-they-die-out)
Maiden, NC (WBTV) -- A North Carolina pastor's sermon is going viral after he explained his controversial plan to "get rid of" lesbians and homosexuals.
The video shows a sermon from Pastor Charles L. Worley from Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, North Carolina. The sermon was record on May 13, according to the church's website.
Click on the video above to watch the sermon. WARNING: Contains graphic language
The Nazi's tried something like this about 75 years ago with less than stellar results.
Larry Gude
05-23-2012, 09:05 AM
The Nazi's tried something like this about 75 years ago with less than stellar results.
Oh, what a towering load of crap!
Fundamentalist Christians, if you pay any attention, at all, do speak in terms of hating the sin and loving the sinner. Adolph Hitler was not about loving the Jew and hating the faith.
:tap:
PsyOps
05-23-2012, 11:44 AM
Oh, what a towering load of crap!
Fundamentalist Christians, if you pay any attention, at all, do speak in terms of hating the sin and loving the sinner. Adolph Hitler was not about loving the Jew and hating the faith.
:tap:
Hitler was able to deceive the Germans into hating the Jews enough to exterminate them. How is what this 'preacher' is preaching all that different? He is advocating the same thing through convincing a captive audience to go along with it.
I would disagree that this 'preacher' is a fundamentalist Christian. I would cast plenty of doubt that he is even a Christian.
Larry Gude
05-23-2012, 11:52 AM
Hitler was able to deceive the Germans into hating the Jews enough to exterminate them. How is what this 'preacher' is preaching all that different? He is advocating the same thing through convincing a captive audience to go along with it.
I would disagree that this 'preacher' is a fundamentalist Christian. I would cast plenty of doubt that he is even a Christian.
Hitler didn't deceive anyone, at least not about Jews. Good lord, he only wrote a book about it. Antisemitism was prevalent throughout Europe but, especially strong in Germany. Did we read any of the same history books?
:lol:
Zguy28
05-23-2012, 11:56 AM
Hitler didn't deceive anyone, at least not about Jews. Good lord, he only wrote a book about it. Antisemitism was prevalent throughout Europe but, especially strong in Germany. Did we read any of the same history books?
:lol:A good book to read about this is called No Ordinary Men by Browning.
Baja28
05-23-2012, 12:43 PM
Round em all up and stick em on a tropical island. No AC needed cuz there's a blower behind every bush. They wouldn't procreate and there ya have it. :jet:
Merlin99
05-23-2012, 12:49 PM
Oh, what a towering load of crap!
Fundamentalist Christians, if you pay any attention, at all, do speak in terms of hating the sin and loving the sinner. Adolph Hitler was not about loving the Jew and hating the faith.
:tap:
I was speaking of the idea of putting a group that you didn't want in a fenced enclosure and waiting for them to expire.
Larry Gude
05-23-2012, 12:56 PM
I was speaking of the idea of putting a group that you didn't want in a fenced enclosure and waiting for them to expire.
Oh. You mean like Andersonville, GA? Or, closer to home, Point Lookout? Or any number of them throughout the US during WWII for Japanese Americans?
Merlin99
05-23-2012, 01:23 PM
Oh. You mean like Andersonville, GA? Or, closer to home, Point Lookout? Or any number of them throughout the US during WWII for Japanese Americans?
Yes to the former, as to the latter I've never heard that the internment camps were any worse than a regular prison.
PsyOps
05-23-2012, 04:59 PM
Hitler didn't deceive anyone, at least not about Jews. Good lord, he only wrote a book about it. Antisemitism was prevalent throughout Europe but, especially strong in Germany. Did we read any of the same history books?
:lol:
Deceive/Brainwash/Convince/Get to go along with. The end result is the same as what the 'preacher' is suggesting. The extermination of a group of people. I’m sure both our history books tell that story.
Larry Gude
05-23-2012, 05:01 PM
Deceive/Brainwash/Convince/Get to go along with. The end result is the same as what the 'preacher' is suggesting. The extermination of a group of people. I’m both our history books tell that story.
The preacher was not advocating extermination. He was advocating a natural death. All he wanted to do was prevent procreation because in his Boss Hogg brain gays, somehow, come from gays.
PsyOps
05-23-2012, 05:07 PM
The preacher was not advocating extermination. He was advocating a natural death. All he wanted to do was prevent procreation because in his Boss Hogg brain gays, somehow, come from gays.
I see. So you only see one way to exterminate people. Kill 'em outright.
All I want to know is how you can be 'again' something.
hvp05
05-23-2012, 05:37 PM
I see. So you only see one way to exterminate people. Kill 'em outright.That is part of what is so dumb about it; he wants to separate them from 'normal' society as if that will get rid of them forever. They can't procreate when they are in normal society because... they're gay!
Zguy28
05-23-2012, 06:44 PM
That is part of what is so dumb about it; he wants to separate them from 'normal' society as if that will get rid of them forever. They can't procreate when they are in normal society because... they're gay!
He has obviously fallen victim to the lie that people are born gay and is seeking to cleanse the gene pool.
rubberbandheart
05-23-2012, 07:19 PM
It's funny how homophobes, like this preacher, tend to only think about GAY SEX and how disgusting it is. When I think of straight people I don't think about straight sex. I don't think about how disgusting it is when a girl gives a guy he@d. I don't sit around pondering what sex positions they engage in or kinky things they must do in their bedroom. If a homophobe cannot get past the sex part and see gays as pretty regular human beings that is THEIR disgusting problem.
Why not consider the contributions? Hmmmmm no unwanted children with gays! A natural solution to our already over populated planet! Do we REALLY need more procreating people on this planet??? I'm pretty sure we have enough straight people who can't keep their pants on to take care of the this.
Merlin99
05-23-2012, 08:56 PM
He has obviously fallen victim to the lie that people are born gay and is seeking to cleanse the gene pool.
And you proof that it's not is?
The preacher was not advocating extermination. He was advocating a natural death. All he wanted to do was prevent procreation because in his Boss Hogg brain gays, somehow, come from gays.
Realizing this is an unpopular position, I'd like to propose an alternate motivation for the suggestion. Rather than arguing that queers/homo-sex-u-als/lets be ins or other monikers are born, there is a real danger they are recruited by other perverts. Maybe the idea of isolating them from normal society is the same as isolating the lepers into colonies to prevent the spread of leprosy.
Railroad
05-24-2012, 09:44 AM
Realizing this is an unpopular position, I'd like to propose an alternate motivation for the suggestion. Rather than arguing that queers/homo-sex-u-als/lets be ins or other monikers are born, there is a real danger they are recruited by other perverts. Maybe the idea of isolating them from normal society is the same as isolating the lepers into colonies to prevent the spread of leprosy.
I understand your logic, but segregation is segregation. What the gay/lesbian people do is between them and God. All this baloney about whether or not they're born that way and whether or not it's legal for them to "marry" each other shouldn't ever make it into a legalistic arena. Might as well say that all liars are born that way, or that all thieves should be segregated and prohibited from procreating. A person who is the product of proper parenting is less likely to make a decision with unfortunate consequences, and putting a given group in isolation just arouses the perverse curiosity of kids who wonder about what the parents might not want them to know - and end up investigating, experimenting, etc.
MMDad
05-24-2012, 10:38 AM
He has obviously fallen victim to the lie that people are born gay and is seeking to cleanse the gene pool.
Are you saying it's a choice? When did you choose to be straight?
Larry Gude
05-24-2012, 10:51 AM
Are you saying it's a choice? When did you choose to be straight?
He shoots! He scores! :lol:
That's what fascinates me about this whole homophobia thing. It's as though anti gay folks are only straight because of what they've been told is right and the moment there is gay marriage they are worried they'll all be ditching the spouse and running off to Fire Island and that their kids will all suddenly decide to be gay.
It's just the most amazing thing when you start really listening to people's objections.
PsyOps
05-24-2012, 10:59 AM
Are you saying it's a choice? When did you choose to be straight?
By choice or DNA, people are still hatched from the union of a man and woman in some fashion thereof; which wont be fenced in. As he fences in and tries to die off all the gays, more will be born. Apparently Pastor 'again it' didn't think that through very well.
PsyOps
05-24-2012, 11:01 AM
Are you saying it's a choice? When did you choose to be straight?
On another point to this... The conventional thinking is that we are BORN straight and people choose to be gay.
Just sayin'
Merlin99
05-24-2012, 11:05 AM
On another point to this... The conventional thinking is that we are BORN straight and people choose to be gay.
Just sayin'
It seems like a really odd choice to make.
PsyOps
05-24-2012, 11:11 AM
It seems like a really odd choice to make.
So is murder. :shrug:
Larry Gude
05-24-2012, 11:15 AM
It seems like a really odd choice to make.
That's what my gay brother told me a long time ago when I asked him. He was like, with all the stuff (I started to use 'sh1t' but, thought better of it) gays have to deal with, it's not something one chooses. I mean, for ####s sake. All were talking about is preference. What next? Isolate people who prefer boobs over butts or blondes over brunettes. But, I repeat myself.
:lol:
PsyOps
05-24-2012, 12:14 PM
That's what my gay brother told me a long time ago when I asked him. He was like, with all the stuff (I started to use 'sh1t' but, thought better of it) gays have to deal with, it's not something one chooses. I mean, for ####s sake. All were talking about is preference. What next? Isolate people who prefer boobs over butts or blondes over brunettes. But, I repeat myself.
:lol:
I would think that until science can point to something in our DNA or some sort of brain characteristic, etc... that shows 'here it is that makes one gay', I don't know how anyone can conclude either way.
Merlin99
05-24-2012, 12:27 PM
I would think that until science can point to something in our DNA or some sort of brain characteristic, etc... that shows 'here it is that makes one gay', I don't know how anyone can conclude either way.
they can't even do that for 99% of the things that are proveably genetic based.
MMDad
05-24-2012, 01:43 PM
On another point to this... The conventional thinking is that we are BORN straight and people choose to be gay.
Just sayin'
That makes no sense to me. I know that there is no way I could choose that. I did not choose to be straight, it is just something I am, something that is so deep in my fiber that I have no other option. I would bet that most straight men feel the same way.
Why is it hard to believe that there are some who have the same surety of their preference, but in the opposite direction?
Toxick
05-24-2012, 02:03 PM
Maiden, NC (WBTV) -- A North Carolina pastor's sermon is going viral after he explained his controversial plan to "get rid of" lesbians and homosexuals.
Yeah, on account'a when they's integrated with decent society, they breed like rabbits.
Or rocks, rather. They breed like rocks.
Larry Gude
05-24-2012, 02:14 PM
I would think that until science can point to something in our DNA or some sort of brain characteristic, etc... that shows 'here it is that makes one gay', I don't know how anyone can conclude either way.
Ok, but, that's like suggesting there are 'preference genes' and, further, that there are right and wrong ones and, even further, that we have any business, or interest, in controlling them. Homosexuality isn't some new thing that came along with the 1960's. It's as old mankind. It IS mankind.
I have zero problem with people taking the religious view that it is a sin and it is wrong. Everything about a given religion is about the survival, if not the dominance, of that faith so, it stands to reason that things that don't serve that interest are 'sins'. However, we are talking about the United States of America that is organized and run by founding documents that were inspired and motivated by more books that just the King James bible and the US is not supposed to be interested in life, liberty and pursuit of happiness as defined by the government. It is supposed to be the exact opposite and, as such, sexual preference is neither a national interest or, clearly, ANY of the governments business.
:buddies:
Larry Gude
05-24-2012, 02:15 PM
That makes no sense to me. I know that there is no way I could choose that. I did not choose to be straight, it is just something I am, something that is so deep in my fiber that I have no other option. I would bet that most straight men feel the same way.
Why is it hard to believe that there are some who have the same surety of their preference, but in the opposite direction?
Post of the day.
:buddies:
Toxick
05-24-2012, 02:33 PM
I would think that until science can point to something in our DNA or some sort of brain characteristic, etc... that shows 'here it is that makes one gay', I don't know how anyone can conclude either way.
How about, since they don't breed, it's not likely an inherited trait.
I realize that there are some gay people that remain closeted, and have children, but they are not even close to the majority of cases, and after a few generations, their genetic remains would be a distant memory.
Homosexuality, if it were genetic, is a self-culling characteristic.
That said, I don't believe it's a choice either.
You got men who like legs.
You got men who obsess over boobies.
You got men who drool over asses.
You got the ones who have a thing for feet.
And then you got men who crave penis.
I believe it's a completely intangible kind of thing.
PsyOps
05-24-2012, 04:53 PM
That makes no sense to me. I know that there is no way I could choose that. I did not choose to be straight, it is just something I am, something that is so deep in my fiber that I have no other option. I would bet that most straight men feel the same way.
Why is it hard to believe that there are some who have the same surety of their preference, but in the opposite direction?
I’m not saying I agree with it. I don’t know. All I know is every person ever born was born as a result of a man and a woman providing their DNA (egg cell/sperm) in some fashion. It is impossible for a gay couple to procreate. Therefore, by nature of the world we live in reproduction in humans occurs between a man and a woman. Whether you believe in God or not, nature created male and female for a reason. So I can comfortably say it goes against nature. That's not a moral statement; it's a biological one.
And before folks get all bent about that and start calling me a homophobe let me say, I have nothing against gays. I have a cousin who is gay. I love her dearly. I have friends who are gay. I am just as comfortable hanging around them as anyone else. I'm not in the business of telling people how to live their lives. I can disagree with something and still care about the person.
PsyOps
05-24-2012, 05:09 PM
Ok, but, that's like suggesting there are 'preference genes' and, further, that there are right and wrong ones and, even further, that we have any business, or interest, in controlling them. Homosexuality isn't some new thing that came along with the 1960's. It's as old mankind. It IS mankind.
I have zero problem with people taking the religious view that it is a sin and it is wrong. Everything about a given religion is about the survival, if not the dominance, of that faith so, it stands to reason that things that don't serve that interest are 'sins'. However, we are talking about the United States of America that is organized and run by founding documents that were inspired and motivated by more books that just the King James bible and the US is not supposed to be interested in life, liberty and pursuit of happiness as defined by the government. It is supposed to be the exact opposite and, as such, sexual preference is neither a national interest or, clearly, ANY of the governments business.
:buddies:
Well, if you’re going to argue that it’s not a choice, but rather something they are born with, then it would have to be something along the lines of genetic or something naturally engrained in their psyche.
I have the same stance on this as I do on something like smoking. I don’t like it but I have no desire to dictate to people how they behave or live; unless it harms someone else. I have no desire for government, religion or anything else to stick their noses in the middle of such things. I don’t want gays to be prevented from openly serving in our military; although I do think it potentially causes some logistical problems. But I don’t want to use this issue as a means to prove how progressive and tolerant we’ve become. Just live your life, leaves others alone and stop exploiting it in order to stand out in the crowd.
hvp05
05-24-2012, 05:53 PM
It is impossible for a gay couple to procreate. Therefore, by nature of the world we live in reproduction in humans occurs between a man and a woman. Whether you believe in God or not, nature created male and female for a reason. So I can comfortably say it goes against nature. That's not a moral statement; it's a biological one.Do you say that applies to other biological issues, such as impotence?
Well, if you’re going to argue that it’s not a choice, but rather something they are born with, then it would have to be something along the lines of genetic or something naturally engrained in their psyche.I think it is largely connected to hormone levels. A man, for example, can be a tough "manly man" across a spectrum to being more gentle and emotional; gay men are at one extreme end of that spectrum. Their upbringing could very well play a role, but I would not be surprised if a biological root were confirmed.
PsyOps
05-24-2012, 07:42 PM
Do you say that applies to other biological issues, such as impotence?
Uh... how is this relevent?
I think it is largely connected to hormone levels. A man, for example, can be a tough "manly man" across a spectrum to being more gentle and emotional; gay men are at one extreme end of that spectrum. Their upbringing could very well play a role, but I would not be surprised if a biological root were confirmed.
Is there biological evidence to support this? With the medical technology today I'm sure they should've been able to confirm this.
hvp05
05-24-2012, 08:17 PM
Uh... how is this relevent?The idea was that biological reproductive issues should 'weed themselves out' of the system. Yet, a myriad of reproductive problems continue to exist.
Is there biological evidence to support this? With the medical technology today I'm sure they should've been able to confirm this.Don't know; it makes sense to me, along the lines of what MMDad stated earlier.
NC pastor Charles Worley wants to isolate gays, lesbians until they ''die out'' | wtsp.com (http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/256113/81/Pastor-wants-to-isolate-gays-until-they-die-out)
Maiden, NC (WBTV) -- A North Carolina pastor's sermon is going viral after he explained his controversial plan to "get rid of" lesbians and homosexuals.
The video shows a sermon from Pastor Charles L. Worley from Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, North Carolina. The sermon was record on May 13, according to the church's website.
Click on the video above to watch the sermon. WARNING: Contains graphic language
I wonder if the future next POTUS is sitting in that congregation.
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