Had to give them one more chance,I mean their business burned down and they are t trying to rebuild so I thought I'd give them some business...

Mistake..

I bought a rack of ribs and I might as well have bought a bag of Kingsford charcoal, that's exactly what I think they tasted like...they were cooked ok by the smoke overpowered ever taste bud .

Smokey Joes is still #1 in the babybacks ribs, and may have to buy a rack tomorrow from them to erase the memory of these.

Nasty. Nasty. Nasty.

The ribs were really tender and they looked beautiful, but they were so infused with such intense smoke flavor that I might as well have grabbed a log out of the firepit and chewed on that. The ribs were that disgusting.

I like to eat. Hell, I LOVE to eat. I love to cook, so I think I can say that I've had decent smoked meat before. But this was completely inedible.

I'm sorry that we wasted the money on 'em. :frown:

Nasty. Nasty. Nasty.

The ribs were really tender and they looked beautiful, but they were so infused with such intense smoke flavor that I might as well have grabbed a log out of the firepit and chewed on that. The ribs were that disgusting.

I like to eat. Hell, I LOVE to eat. I love to cook, so I think I can say that I've had decent smoked meat before. But this was completely inedible.

I'm sorry that we wasted the money on 'em. :frown:


If you care to do your own, search "Sugar Rays Body Blow Ribs", believe it's a Paula Deen recipe, best F'n ribs in the world. I made them Sunday and finished them on the smoker.....I got wood :killingme:jet:

I've never liked their ribs but the pulled pork is really good.

I've never liked their ribs but the pulled pork is really good.

:yay: Yep, like the BBQ, not so much their ribs. Hubby likes T & J's (http://tandjbbq.com/) ribs the best!!

I've never liked their ribs but the pulled pork is really good.

No offense, but I ate my last rib about 3 hours ago, it tastes like I smoked a pack of cigarettes.

No offense, but I ate my last rib about 3 hours ago, it tastes like I smoked a pack of cigarettes.

Not to downplay it, but if you were to get smoked meat in Texas (and I assume most of the south), that's just what it's like. I got some smoked chicken and it tasted like a campfire to me, but that's the way it's supposed to taste.

Not to downplay it, but if you were to get smoked meat in Texas (and I assume most of the south), that's just what it's like. I got some smoked chicken and it tasted like a campfire to me, but that's the way it's supposed to taste.

I have to agree, the times of eating BBQ in Texs for me were exactly that - a strong smoke flavor. It was very good but it can be an acquired taste.

I've never liked Bear Creek. To each their own, I guess.

Not to downplay it, but if you were to get smoked meat in Texas (and I assume most of the south), that's just what it's like. I got some smoked chicken and it tasted like a campfire to me, but that's the way it's supposed to taste.

I've eaten BBQ in TX dozens of times, at numerous joints, and it's never tasted like campfire or cigarettes (:lol:). It tastes smoky because it's supposed to (as you said), but not overly so. Real ribs don't come out of a crockpot, they come out of a smoker.

I'm curious if you non-smoker types just have overly sensitive taste buds? Bob was complaining awhile back about everything being too salty; my mom complains about everything being too spicy, even if it doesn't have a single spicy ingredient.

Or perhaps it's age? Let me smell you and I'll tell you if you're getting old. :jet:

Not to downplay it, but if you were to get smoked meat in Texas (and I assume most of the south), that's just what it's like. I got some smoked chicken and it tasted like a campfire to me, but that's the way it's supposed to taste.
I think that's the mesquite flavor, much more acrid than hickory or oak.

I've never liked their ribs but the pulled pork is really good.

Same here. I've actually never even tried their ribs. Why bother when the pulled pork is so good?

I'm curious if you non-smoker types just have overly sensitive taste buds? Bob was complaining awhile back about everything being too salty; my mom complains about everything being too spicy, even if it doesn't have a single spicy ingredient.

Or perhaps it's age? Let me smell you and I'll tell you if you're getting old. :jet:

Vrai,
Interested way that you wording it: "Non-smokers have overly sensitive taste buds"

Wouldn't a non-smoker's taste buds be considered the controlled baseline, and the test be that smoking may have the effect of dulling your taste buds?

Just sayin' :lol:

Vrai,
Interested way that you wording it: "Non-smokers have overly sensitive taste buds"

Wouldn't a non-smoker's taste buds be considered the controlled baseline, and the test be that smoking may have the effect of dulling your taste buds?

Just sayin' :lol:
She likes supermarket tomatoes, I'd consider that proof that her taste buds have been muted

Vrai,
Interested way that you wording it: "Non-smokers have overly sensitive taste buds"

Wouldn't a non-smoker's taste buds be considered the controlled baseline, and the test be that smoking may have the effect of dulling your taste buds?

Just sayin' :lol:

That's EXACTLY my thought to the person that would in ANY way like Bear Creek Ribs..

They would HAVE to be HEAVY smokers.. Smoking having killed their taste buds they would need the over powering all encompassing smoke flavor just to recognize that it's there. I'm assuming the owners of Bear Creek are smokers.. (I know, duh!!)

Not to downplay it, but if you were to get smoked meat in Texas (and I assume most of the south), that's just what it's like. I got some smoked chicken and it tasted like a campfire to me, but that's the way it's supposed to taste.

I've had smoked meat before..

This didn't taste like smoked meat.. it tasted like the remnants in the bottom of the smoker after you've smoked the meat..

BG had a great description.. Pull a burnt log out of fire and chew on it, THAT is what it tasted like, enough to where you couldn't get the taste out of your mouth..

Wouldn't a non-smoker's taste buds be considered the controlled baseline, and the test be that smoking may have the effect of dulling your taste buds?

No, just like someone who's been living in a bubble because of allergies or whatever their problem is isn't a good baseline for environmental pollution. When you never expose yourself to irritants, EVERYTHING becomes irritating to you.

Take a hermit who's been living in the hills all their life and put them in downtown LP city. They will die within minutes because they have no immunity to normal everyday pollutants. One lady with a spritz of Chanel will keel them over.

No, just like someone who's been living in a bubble because of allergies or whatever their problem is isn't a good baseline for environmental pollution. When you never expose yourself to irritants, EVERYTHING becomes irritating to you.

Take a hermit who's been living in the hills all their life and put them in downtown LP city. They will die within minutes because they have no immunity to normal everyday pollutants. One lady with a spritz of Chanel will keel them over.

I understand what you're trying to say, however I respectfully disagree with your analogy to non-smokers and their taste buds. This wasn't simply a problem about too strong of a smoked flavor, it was a problem of too strong of a bad flavor. Whether overpowering or not, it was stated that it tasted like eating charcoal. Bad flavor is bad flavor if you have over-sensitive taste buds or not.

I understand what you're trying to say, however I respectfully disagree with your analogy to non-smokers and their taste buds. This wasn't simply a problem about too strong of a smoked flavor, it was a problem of too strong of a bad flavor. Whether overpowering or not, it was stated that it tasted like eating charcoal. Bad flavor is bad flavor if you have over-sensitive taste buds or not.

You're over-analyzing my little joke and making it not funny. :mad:

You're over-analyzing my little joke and making it not funny. :mad:

I thought you were serious.. :shrug:

I thought you were serious.. :shrug:

She has a weird sense of humor.

I thought you were serious.. :shrug:

That's because I'm taking a class and can make solid arguments, regardless of how nonsensical they are.

I've eaten BBQ in TX dozens of times, at numerous joints, and it's never tasted like campfire or cigarettes (:lol:). It tastes smoky because it's supposed to (as you said), but not overly so. Real ribs don't come out of a crockpot, they come out of a smoker.

I'm curious if you non-smoker types just have overly sensitive taste buds? Bob was complaining awhile back about everything being too salty; my mom complains about everything being too spicy, even if it doesn't have a single spicy ingredient.

Or perhaps it's age? Let me smell you and I'll tell you if you're getting old. :jet:

I smoked for 39 years and quit in the early 2000s. I'm sensitive to salty meats, but smoke flavor in meat doesn't seem excessive (unless it really IS excessive).

I don't like pulled pork BBQ and I think that both Bear Creek and Smokey Joe's aren't for me. I know folks who love both places, and some who prefer one or the other, but they just don't do it for me.

I was never all that crazy about Texas BBQ and rarely chose to go to a BBQ house myself. Steak house? That's another story and might be a little-known Texas treat.

Just posting because I can...

I smoked for 39 years and quit in the early 2000s. I'm sensitive to salty meats, but smoke flavor in meat doesn't seem excessive (unless it really IS excessive).

I don't like pulled pork BBQ and I think that both Bear Creek and Smokey Joe's aren't for me. I know folks who love both places, and some who prefer one or the other, but they just don't do it for me.

I was never all that crazy about Texas BBQ and rarely chose to go to a BBQ house myself. Steak house? That's another story and might be a little-known Texas treat.

A real treat is tri-tip; which I know I've mentioned in the past.
THIS stuff is AWESOME when cooked over an open pit hardwood fire.
I could go on, and further irrelevantly post in this thread about it; but I won't.

reminds me, i need to get some ribs to throw in with the brisket

You're over-analyzing my little joke and making it not funny. :mad:

I thought you were serious.. :shrug:

Sorry Vrai, I thought you were serious too. Plus I've been working a lot and stressed out so I might've been a tad bit critical. no harm intended. :love:

I've eaten BBQ in TX dozens of times, at numerous joints, and it's never tasted like campfire or cigarettes (:lol:). It tastes smoky because it's supposed to (as you said), but not overly so. Real ribs don't come out of a crockpot, they come out of a smoker.

I'm curious if you non-smoker types just have overly sensitive taste buds? Bob was complaining awhile back about everything being too salty; my mom complains about everything being too spicy, even if it doesn't have a single spicy ingredient.

Or perhaps it's age? Let me smell you and I'll tell you if you're getting old. :jet:

smokey joe's ribs SUCK , I mean YUCK!!!

Sorry Vrai, I thought you were serious too. Plus I've been working a lot and stressed out so I might've been a tad bit critical. no harm intended. :love:

You just got back from your massage... didntchu...:dance:

You just got back from your massage... didntchu...:dance:

Massage?

Oh I wish...
:lmao:

smokey joe's ribs SUCK , I mean YUCK!!!

Okay.

Okay.

All I could think is "More for ME!!"

That and good to know I don't have to worry about running into him while I'm there!

All I could think is "More for ME!!"

That and good to know I don't have to worry about running into him while I'm there!

You must be a personal friend of the owner.

You must be a personal friend of the owner.

I've met her, and I like her, even though we have VERY different political views..

BUT not a close enough friend that I would eat there if I didn't like it, but the food is good enough that I'll support her business despite our difference in political views.

I don't know ANYONE that works at Okada, and I'll tell you they have the best Sushi and Sashimi around.. They also make a kickass Squid Salad, and their Dynamite Roll is reason to go there on it's own..

I also don't know anyone, nor am I related to anyone that works or owns Jerry's in Prince Frederick, but I think hands down they have the best seafood in SoMD.. and also the best service and a great business model.

Don't have any issues with anyone at Bear Creek, or Lenny's but chances are good I'll never eat at either place again.

You have a good product or service I believe it derserves mentioning, just as well if you have a product or service that is beyond bad you also derserve mention. I don't like just to talk about the bad things in our county, I like to call out the good things once in awhile too, because there are many!

Speaking of ribs - we had a full rack of baby backs this evening from New Beginnings in St. Inigoes - the most tender you will ever have! :drool:

Speaking of ribs - we had a full rack of baby backs this evening from New Beginnings in St. Inigoes - the most tender you will ever have! :drool:

We stopped there tonight as well and picked up a French Dip and a pork bbq sammich. Absolutely delicious. I can't wait to go back to try their ribs.

We stopped there tonight as well and picked up a French Dip and a pork bbq sammich. Absolutely delicious. I can't wait to go back to try their ribs.

I had the French dip tonight as well - damn that thing was good!

I'm curious if you non-smoker types just have overly sensitive taste buds?
:jet:

The truth is...you smoker types have no taste buds, everything tastes like an ashtray!

Speaking of ribs - we had a full rack of baby backs this evening from New Beginnings in St. Inigoes - the most tender you will ever have! :drool:

Where in St. Inigoes is that? I haven't heard of them before.

Where in St. Inigoes is that? I haven't heard of them before.

:yeahthat:

Speaking of ribs - we had a full rack of baby backs this evening from New Beginnings in St. Inigoes - the most tender you will ever have! :drool:

New Beginnings....isn't that an alcohol/drug rehab?

Where in St. Inigoes is that? I haven't heard of them before.
Corner of route 5 and Beachville and Chisleytown, we got there 15 minutes after they closed, they still served us. We got the French dip and BBQ sandwich, French Dip was good but the BBQ was awesome.

We're going to try to remember to order ribs next weekend.

Ooh, and don't forget to order your mulch while you're there.

The truth is...you smoker types have no taste buds, everything tastes like an ashtray!

Having never tasted an ashtray before, I'll have to take your word for it.

New Beginnings....isn't that an alcohol/drug rehab?

Times are tough. Gotta diversify.

This woman was behind me at walmart that has so much old lady perfume on i gagged, the cashier was having a hard time to. Hope that isnt you vrai

If you care to do your own, search "Sugar Rays Body Blow Ribs", believe it's a Paula Deen recipe, best F'n ribs in the world. I made them Sunday and finished them on the smoker.....I got wood :killingme:jet:

Yep! Saw that show a few years ago, and now that is the ONLY recipe I use. It takes 2 days to do it right, but always well worth it!!! I only use about 1/3 the black pepper though....

Smokey Joes is still #1 in the babybacks ribs, and may have to buy a rack tomorrow from them to erase the memory of these.

Bob, if you are in Fredericksburg VA look for Allmans BBQ. They only do pork and you can only get ribs after 3. The ribs are dry rubbed with sauce on the side. Not your ordinary rub but I love them.
Allman's BBQ - Restaurant/Cafe - Fredericksburg, VA | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Allmans-BBQ/154132951057)

We stopped there tonight as well and picked up a French Dip and a pork bbq sammich. Absolutely delicious. I can't wait to go back to try their ribs.

I got the 1/2 chicken for lunch and it was awesome!

I don't like their cole slaw or beans though.

I don't like their cole slaw or beans though.

I believe their beans have cinnamon in them, which I enjoyed. I did not eat the cole slaw since my wife had just made some. In order to keep peace in the house, I just disposed of the cole slaw that came with the ribs.....there was still no peace in my house, for other reasons though....

Vrai, Where can I meet you Sunday afternoon the 17th so I can give you the best BBQ you will ever eat? :buddies:

Vrai, Where can I meet you Sunday afternoon the 17th so I can give you the best BBQ you will ever eat? :buddies:

Ha! You tell me where and I'll be there. I do love BBQ :drool:

Ha! You tell me where and I'll be there. I do love BBQ :drool:

I will PM you my address and you can swing by and get some left over competition food. We are also doing an anything crab contest on Friday. I am doing a Jumbo lump crab ball ontop of butterflied jumbo shrimp with an oldbay and roasted garlic cream sauce. I will try to save you one of them too.

I've never liked their ribs but the pulled pork is really good.

I once found a really gross animal part in my pulled pork sandwich. I now go to Smokey Joes which is MUCH better.