Saturday morning, around 11:30ish, I’m traveling north on 4. Traffic is unusually slow for a Saturday morning. Then I find out why. There are about 50+ bikers clogging everything up. I get up to the 231 intersection and they are stopped on either side of 4 blocking opposing traffic coming out of 231 so their mob can continue through the intersection when the light turns red. They have no police escort. I come to the intersection and I have bikers cutting directly in front of me and directly behind me from both sides of the road. I had to slam my brakes on to avoid making bloody minced meat out of 2 of you pinheads. When I got up to Cox Rd the mob was turning left at that intersection; again with a couple of biker ‘marshals’ sitting in the intersection blocking traffic so they can continue through, running the red light. One of them (a female) actually had the gall to sit there blocking traffic while she took photos of the trail of bikes as they went through the intersection.

What this gang did was completely illegal and a complete disregard for others. If I were in the opposing traffic and you sat in front of me blocking my way when my light turned green, I’d be inclined to mow right through blasting my horn for you lawbreakers to get the h3ll out of MY way; just as you were doing. The road is there for everyone; not just you boneheads that think that just because you're in your little biker posse you can claim the highway.

We get a lot of threads on here about bikers complaining about 4-wheel drivers not paying enough attention to bikers. Don’t wonder why anymore. Because you pinheads think you own the damn road. You think you can do whatever the heck you want and expect everyone to still look out for YOU. I’m trying to figure out why you bikers think because you’re in a pack you have the right to clog all other traffic up so you can keep your mob together. Why do you think the law doesn’t apply to you? Now that it’s warmed up we’re getting more and more packs riding around cutting in and out of traffic, tailgating, and running red lights.

Don’t give me any more crap about not watching out for you. Don’t expect it when you have no desire to do your part in allowing me to safely look out for you.

I'm surprised no one has already given you crap about this post.

This is SOP for any large group or benefit ride, been happening for years and years, will continue. It's FAR better to hold some traffic at an intersection rather than allow a handful of cars in-between the riders. Far safer for everyone. Would you have liked driving your car surrounded by bikes? Makes most drivers nervous and we as bikers don't need a nervous driver in with dozens of bikes.

As far as no police, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there weren't one or more riding as citizens in that pack.

Large groups like this aren't usually a bunch of guys out for a ride. This was more likely a benefit ride for a good cause.

Sorry you felt so terribly inconvenienced for a few minutes.

I'm surprised no one has already given you crap about this post.

This is SOP for any large group or benefit ride, been happening for years and years, will continue. It's FAR better to hold some traffic at an intersection rather than allow a handful of cars in-between the riders. Far safer for everyone. Would you have liked driving your car surrounded by bikes? Makes most drivers nervous and we as bikers don't need a nervous driver in with dozens of bikes.

As far as no police, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there weren't one or more riding as citizens in that pack.

Large groups like this aren't usually a bunch of guys out for a ride. This was more likely a benefit ride for a good cause.

Sorry you felt so terribly inconvenienced for a few minutes.

Me too. I thought this would torque a few nerves pretty quickly. :lol:


If you're going to ignore the intent of my post then why bother? This wasn't an incontinence. And it wasn't for just a few minutes. It was a several mile stretch. It was dangerous.

If they had a police escort I would have been fine with it. It probably would have been more organized. They caused complete chaos in every intersection. Like I said, they cut in front of me without warning and pretty much took over the entire roadway. I don’t give one hoot about 'SOP'. They still have to obey the law. They didn’t in any way or fashion. I’ve lived in SoMD for about 7 years now and NEVER saw this happen before. I’ve seen bikers ride in large groups often, but never taken complete control of the road and blocking intersections.

The safest thing they could have done is obey traffic signals; IOW (as if I had to even say it) stop at red lights. Then catch up when they can. If they can’t then meet at their meeting grounds when they get there. I was already driving my car surrounded by bikes; they were everywhere; pulling in and out of the intersections. As I stated, I almost ran over one that pulled out in front of me. I had to hit my brakes, just as two pulled out just behind me. They had to weave sharply to avoid hitting me in the rear. If you don’t want a nervous driver, stop doing stupid stuff that makes drivers nervous. What is it with you biker people that have this attitude that the whole ‘respect each other’ thing is a one-way street?

I’m all for benefits, and I really appreciate what bikers do; especially for our vets. But if they want to get there alive they need to stop acting like morons and like they own the entire road when they’re in groups like this. I don’t need their blood on my conscience because they fail to recognize there are other vehicles out on the road.

You know, out of the myriad of things that annoy me and make me say cusswords, biker packs aren't one of them. Traffic in general doesn't harsh my buzz, even when some idiot tries to commit suicide in front of my vehicle. Bikers, to me, are like cyclists or Amish or something - you just get away from them and allow them to proceed. If they're being unsafe and end up splattered on the road, oh well - not my problem. The only thing I'm interested in is not being the one that splatters them. Aside from that, they take up no space in my brain.

Please don't let one bad experience ruin your opinion of all bikers. I'm not a biker but I do like to ride bicycles and jog through my neighborhood. Some cyclists and pedestrians are disrespectful to automobile drivers because they often have the right of way on the road and that behavior has created (in some drivers) an anger towards all of us so that they don't stop for us, throw cigarette butts at us, get their vehicles as close to us as possible, or once in my case - wave me across the road and then speed through it just as I get started out into the crosswalk - it's very frustrating.

I feel pretty confident that it's similar for motorcyclists. Don't perpetuate the cycle of anger, no one benenfits from it.

I would rather them block the intersection for a minute or two (for a benefit) than to have them speeding and weaving through traffic with thier obnoxiously loud exhaust to catch up to their group. It's only a minute or two of your life you have to wait...

or once in my case - wave me across the road and then speed through it just as I get started out into the crosswalk - it's very frustrating.
Seriously?? That's effed up!!

Please don't let one bad experience ruin your opinion of all bikers. I'm not a biker but I do like to ride bicycles and jog through my neighborhood. Some cyclists and pedestrians are disrespectful to automobile drivers because they often have the right of way on the road and that behavior has created (in some drivers) an anger towards all of us so that they don't stop for us, throw cigarette butts at us, get their vehicles as close to us as possible, or once in my case - wave me across the road and then speed through it just as I get started out into the crosswalk - it's very frustrating.

I feel pretty confident that it's similar for motorcyclists. Don't perpetuate the cycle of anger, no one benenfits from it.

Don't use the crosswalk. You are not a pedestrian if you're riding a bike. Follow the same set of rules as if you were in a car.

Don't use the crosswalk. You are not a pedestrian if you're riding a bike. Follow the same set of rules as if you were in a car.

Right, but I meant using the crosswalk when I jog....and I didn't previously mention this part but also for when I walk the dogs.

Seriously?? That's effed up!!


MmHm. Blonde lady, Cadillac Escalade, Wildewood.

Seriously?? That's effed up!!

Happens all the time. It is amazing that when you are out walking, running or biking people will try to get as close to you as possible - even though there is nothing in the opposing lane. It's a game: How close can you get?
I always walk towards traffic so I can get out of the way and wave a thanks when drivers give me some extra room.

Right, but I meant using the crosswalk when I jog....and I didn't previously mention this part but also for when I walk the dogs.

Same here. I make sure the dog is always on the inside, closer to the shoulder, when I walk her. The only problem is tripping over the damned mutt when I have to get out of the way :killingme
On the other hand my son has been sideswiped once and run off the road twice - in one month.

Please don't let one bad experience ruin your opinion of all bikers. I'm not a biker but I do like to ride bicycles and jog through my neighborhood. Some cyclists and pedestrians are disrespectful to automobile drivers because they often have the right of way on the road and that behavior has created (in some drivers) an anger towards all of us so that they don't stop for us, throw cigarette butts at us, get their vehicles as close to us as possible, or once in my case - wave me across the road and then speed through it just as I get started out into the crosswalk - it's very frustrating.

I feel pretty confident that it's similar for motorcyclists. Don't perpetuate the cycle of anger, no one benenfits from it.

This is no isolated incident as far as bikers go. It’s pretty much routine for them to weave in and out of traffic, ride your bumper, and sit in a blind spot. Trust me, in SoMD I am trying to be very aware of bikers. But the fact that the whole situation almost caused me to run over one of them really sent the message that they have very little concern for the law or other vehicles. There was no right of way here. I was proceeding through the intersection. I even slowed down well below the speed limit because of the situation; and I still almost hit a biker that cut in front of me. I wouldn’t say I was angry; I was frustrated that they caused so much havoc and had no regard for anyone else. I had the extra frustration of having a family member following me because they didn’t know the area and we had to stay together. She is an elderly woman and was definitely flustered by the whole thing.

Bikers incessantly complain about cars not looking out for them; then they do things that make it impossible for us to look out for them. You can’t have it both ways.

You know, out of the myriad of things that annoy me and make me say cusswords, biker packs aren't one of them. Traffic in general doesn't harsh my buzz, even when some idiot tries to commit suicide in front of my vehicle. Bikers, to me, are like cyclists or Amish or something - you just get away from them and allow them to proceed. If they're being unsafe and end up splattered on the road, oh well - not my problem. The only thing I'm interested in is not being the one that splatters them. Aside from that, they take up no space in my brain.

Until they become a mass of flesh and blood under your chassis because they were idiot enough to cut in front of you.

I would rather them block the intersection for a minute or two (for a benefit) than to have them speeding and weaving through traffic with thier obnoxiously loud exhaust to catch up to their group. It's only a minute or two of your life you have to wait...

How about they just obey traffic laws? Is that too much to ask? There was no minute or two to wait. I was hitting the intersection and it was my turn to get through it with traffic moving behind me. I am not going to stop and clog them up too. I was not able to predict that the pinhead would pull out in front of me.

I'm surprised no one has already given you crap about this post.
This is SOP for any large group or benefit ride, been happening for years and years, will continue. Sorry you felt so terribly inconvenienced for a few minutes.

I'll be glad to help with the give someone crap dept. :razz:

No where in Md. law does it state there is an exclusion for group riders or benefit rides.

Bikers incessantly complain about cars not looking out for them; then they do things that make it impossible for us to look out for them. You can’t have it both ways.


I could not agree more...I have seen them pull dumb crap a lot more often than people in cars. Weaving in and out of cars going 75+ is not smart... doing wheelies in traffic is not smart. A lot of the crotch rocket riders in this area think they are the only ones on the road...but there are some that actually know how to ride a motorcycle

Until they become a mass of flesh and blood under your chassis because they were idiot enough to cut in front of you.

That's their problem. I have no qualms about self-culling.

I could not agree more...I have seen them pull dumb crap a lot more often than people in cars. Weaving in and out of cars going 75+ is not smart... doing wheelies in traffic is not smart. A lot of the crotch rocket riders in this area think they are the only ones on the road...but there are some that actually know how to ride a motorcycle

Don't confuse the idiots on crotch rockets with the seasoned, aged riders on classics and dressers. Two entirely different rider groups, and the crotch rocket crowd makes a bad name for all of us. I have the same feeling of wanting to slap them upside the head as you do.

You find very few crotch rocket riders in a benefit ride like the OP was talking about.

Don't confuse the idiots on crotch rockets with the seasoned, aged riders on classics and dressers. Two entirely different rider groups, and the crotch rocket crowd makes a bad name for all of us. I have the same feeling of wanting to slap them upside the head as you do.

You find very few crotch rocket riders in a benefit ride like the OP was talking about.


Where did I even mention classics or dressers? I didnt... almost all of them actually know how to ride, that I have seen

Was this the Bikers for Babies fundraiser?

Same here. I make sure the dog is always on the inside, closer to the shoulder, when I walk her. The only problem is tripping over the damned mutt when I have to get out of the way :killingme
On the other hand my son has been sideswiped once and run off the road twice - in one month.

My one dog will ONLY walk on the left side of me. I don't know why he does it and I don't know how to make him get past it :( He'll also start out at a good pace but then get slower and slower and slower until he just sits down. There's no set distance in which that happens, I guess it's just whenever he feels like it. So crossing through crosswalks with him can sometimes be embarrassing. He slowly moseys. Mostly I just end up carrying him through the crosswalks to save us all the trouble of waiting on him :lol:

Don't confuse the idiots on crotch rockets with the seasoned, aged riders on classics and dressers. Two entirely different rider groups, and the crotch rocket crowd makes a bad name for all of us. I have the same feeling of wanting to slap them upside the head as you do.

You find very few crotch rocket riders in a benefit ride like the OP was talking about.

That was going to be – more or less – my reply. I don’t even pay any mind to sport bikers. They’ve long since lost my regard or extra attention.

So it should be fair that I caveat my rant with the fact that cruisers (Harleys and such) definitely ride with far more care than the crotch-rocket variety.

HOWEVER… It is getting to the point where the riders in packs are becoming more and more dangerous. I’ve gone down 231 on multiple occasions where there are 4 or 5 bikers and a couple of them riding the center line forcing me to move right. They double up in the lane when they are supposed to stagger.

BTW… what was the benefit?

BTW… what was the benefit?

Don't know if it even was, just assuming from the way it was described. SoMDGirl thought it might have been Bikers for Babies, but I haven't been following all the events.

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.

2 crazy azz crotch rockets flying past us on 231 on the shoulder of the road on Friday evening. We came across them shortly, one was wiped out. Husband didn't run over him though, just his sneaker...

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.

Uh, wow.

Way to represent there, sport. Hopefully all bikers in the group aren't as big a dick as you.

:snacks:

I think this is about to get good.

I'm surprised no one has already given you crap about this post.

This is SOP for any large group or benefit ride, been happening for years and years, will continue. It's FAR better to hold some traffic at an intersection rather than allow a handful of cars in-between the riders. Far safer for everyone. Would you have liked driving your car surrounded by bikes? Makes most drivers nervous and we as bikers don't need a nervous driver in with dozens of bikes.

As far as no police, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there weren't one or more riding as citizens in that pack.

Large groups like this aren't usually a bunch of guys out for a ride. This was more likely a benefit ride for a good cause.

Sorry you felt so terribly inconvenienced for a few minutes.

I normally come down on the side of the riders in these discussions, but I'm with psyops on this one. This sounds like a disorganized cluster-####, not something that will improve safety. If you've gone to the trouble of organizing this number of bikers to come together, then have the common decency to alert the police and ask for help with traffic control. A bunch of riders blocking intersections are NOT qualified to direct traffic. If it's for a good cause, you aren't reflecting well on that cause by deciding that you own the road.

And yes, I would rather ride within a large group of bikes. If they follow the laws (just like I am) then there won't be a problem for anyone. Ride at the speed limit and use your turn signals.

I don't think he had a problem with a few minutes inconvenience. Sounds like he was upset at the chaos caused and the danger that presented.

Good thing this wasn't a funeral procession.

How many witnesses will you show up with?

Let's see a show of hands: how many of us would happily show up in Psy's defense and bring a copy of this post with us?

:howdy:

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.

Got it, don't mess with the BA.:killingme

Let's see a show of hands: how many of us would happily show up in Psy's defense and bring a copy of this post with us?

:howdy:

:howdy:

Let's see a show of hands: how many of us would happily show up in Psy's defense and bring a copy of this post with us?

:howdy:

:howdy:

:howdy:

I hate to say it as a long time rider and supporter, but dontknowwhy's post just set back rider public relations many many steps.

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.

In my humble opinion, my mom always taught me you get more with sugar than you do with vinegar. Most people don't take kindly to threats of getting shot at.

I think you would have been better received if you had simply explained why you guys did what you did (for safety, whatever) then threatening to shoot someone if they cut into your bike mob.

Just my opinion.

Carry on with the threats if it makes you feel better.

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.

Look at the big dick on you. Impressive!

3. which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...

Where do you get this special priviledge from? Superman or Batman, the Dark Knight?

apparently none of you have seen a vehicle plow thru a group, killing 2 & seriously injuring 6 others... because we blocked an intersection for 2 minutes.

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.

Well hell… Whining about almost squashing one of your benefit attendees. And gee… I just listen to the radio all the time; how could I have missed it? :rolleyes: I rarely listen to the radio because it’s crap. So this ‘unintelligent’ idiot is obviously going to miss it. You're not thinking things through very well are you?

I don’t care how many ‘off-duty’ cops might have been there. If they are ‘OFF DUTY’ they do NOT have the authority to block traffic.

I did not run through a road block. My light was GREEN, meaning I NOT ONLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRAVEL THROUGH THE INTERSECTION I HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TO KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING. You really show your lack of understanding of traffic law and common sense.

I think making threats on this forum or any other public place is not very smart. When I say I am going to ‘plow’ through, I am saying I going to get around your selfish ass and continue on MY way, as MY way is no more or less important than yours; especially as you have NO RIGHT to block traffic that is not officially done so by the police or other law enforcement.

YOU’RE taking this discussion a bit too far by threatening that you will fire your weapon at me or anyone else. Even more ‘UNINTELLIGENT’ admitting you’ve done so in public. You indicate the kind of intelligence we may be dealing with on our roads. And you want to call my ‘anger’ road rage? I have no desire to harm anyone. In fact it was the intent of this thread to show how upset I am that I almost hit one of your gun-toting posse.

The only thing that will make me poo myself (after 20 years of military service) is watching you go to jail when you whip your weapon out and fire it at me. Your threats mean very little to me. Just obey the damn law is all I ask. You indicate you have no intention of doing so on many levels.

I hate to say it as a long time rider and supporter, but dontknowwhy's post just set back rider public relations many many steps.

He certainly played into the stereotype and didn't do responsible bikers any favors.

As an official "blocker", wouldn't it make sense to wear blaze orange tshirts or vests so that people know you are someone that may be trying to direct traffic?

Uh, wow.

Way to represent there, sport. Hopefully all bikers in the group aren't as big a dick as you.

Is it too late to put him in the running for "forum jerk"?

Let's see a show of hands: how many of us would happily show up in Psy's defense and bring a copy of this post with us?

:howdy:

:howdy:


:howdy:

I hate to say it as a long time rider and supporter, but dontknowwhy's post just set back rider public relations many many steps.

Awww shucks :blushing:

Okay, I want to try to calm things down a bit. It was my intent to poke a couple of nerves, but I didn't expect to poke this deeply. In DKW’s defense, perhaps my ‘mow through’ comment was a bit a much and I can see how it would be taken wrong; as DKW indicated. Of course threatening me with mortal violence is a little much, but I’m not really taking that very seriously.

I have quite a few biker friends. I had a couple stay with me on ‘Rolling Thunder’ weekend. He is actually the president of his chapter in Iowa. I have a lot of respect for them and the causes they stand up for; especially for our vets. I thought the incident on Saturday was uncalled-for. It really caused a lot of traffic chaos. I don’t want your blood on my car, and I don’t want to hurt anyone. It just adds to my struggle to respect them on the road.

I think something like this would annoy the he!! out of me until such time as I found out it was to benefit someone. A joy ride is one thing but being held up for a little bit if it's helping others isn't that big a deal to me. Why is this any more dangerous than a funeral procession?

Lighten up di@k head and have some respect.

As an official "blocker", wouldn't it make sense to wear blaze orange tshirts or vests so that people know you are someone that may be trying to direct traffic?

Exactly or get this, arrange to have the cops, with lights flashing, do the blocking.

Somewhere in the motor vehicle regulations for So.MD there must be a clause that says, "If you have a big enough group and would like to keep them together you may simply block intersections and take other actions to remove interfering vehicles from your planned route."

PArt B, under criminal law, "If in the course of riding with a pack there is an accident, blame the 4 wheel vehicle and then arrange to have as many members perjure themselves. Particularly if you feel connected enough to the local politicians".

I think something like this would annoy the he!! out of me until such time as I found out it was to benefit someone. A joy ride is one thing but being held up for a little bit if it's helping others isn't that big a deal to me. Why is this any more dangerous than a funeral procession?

Lighten up di@k head and have some respect.

Are you people not paying attention? They didn’t just ride from point A to point B. When I got to the intersection they were sitting on both sides of the intersection and started darting across both lanes to try to get in line with the rest of the bikes. They literally cut in front of me, and as I tried to state, I almost hit one of them. Slamming on my brakes caused the bikers behind me to sharply weave to avoid me. So, that person, in their zeal to do their good deed in a benefit almost didn’t make it. What good are they then?

Then you have on the news some unconscionable pinhead that hit a biker on their way to a benefit. This isn’t about whether I was being held up. I don’t think I even really complained about that. I am complaining about these bikers’ disregard for traffic law and disregard for other vehicles around them. Call me all the names you want but what aren’t you getting about that?

Is it too late to put him in the running for "forum jerk"?

I think forum douche would be more appropriate of a poll.

CCW permit holder with a loose temper....fantastic.

Carry on...

Good thing this wasn't a funeral procession.

It might have been. Remember the guy that got killed on his bike last week - I thought I read someplace that services were this weekend.

Was this the Bikers for Babies fundraiser?No, that is in October.

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1.:blahblah: Based on this post I believe things happened exactly as Psy described them. You and a bunch of your buffoon buddies decided to go for a ride and acted like total morons which in turn tarnishes all the good riders out there.

As far as you firing a gun into windshields, radiators etc. I'm calling you a bold face liar! Something like that happens, it's all over the news. Lets see links to your big badass tyraid.

apparently none of you have seen a vehicle plow thru a group, killing 2 & seriously injuring 6 others... because we blocked an intersection for 2 minutes.Why no, no I have not seen this occur and neither have you. Please post link to when and where this happened.

Don't forget the link to you going all John Wayne and shooting up all the cars either.

I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger

Wow, a Ruger.....Sucks you couldn't afford a REAL gun :razz:

Threatening from a gun toting biker - who undoubtedly travels on a credit card, cell phone and babied bike could be why my 1959 bike, that I have owned and driven since 1974, is in a garage. My son can have it.
Riding used to be independent fun, not a social status function.
I don't think you are going to get much sympathy telling a judge you shot up anything while obstructing traffic.

CCW permit holder with a loose temper....fantastic.

Carry on...

he didn't say he was a permit holder. just carry'n

Threatening from a gun toting biker - who undoubtedly travels on a credit card, cell phone and babied bike could be why my 1959 bike, that I have owned and driven since 1974, is in a garage. My son can have it.
Riding used to be independent fun, not a social status function.
I don't think you are going to get much sympathy telling a judge you shot up anything while obstructing traffic.

Panhead? :hot::hot:

many off duty police in both of these runs

Say no more. Cops AND Bikers....The since of special entitlement in that group must have been off the charts :killingme

It might have been. Remember the guy that got killed on his bike last week - I thought I read someplace that services were this weekend.

His service is on the 16th, this coming weekend.

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.
Can this be pointed out somewhere?

Can this be pointed out somewhere?

I think the fact that DKW stated that this is some sort of 'right' indicates the lack of credibility. Driving/riding isn’t even a right.

I think the fact that DKW stated that this is some sort of 'right' indicates the lack of credibility. Driving/riding isn’t even a right.

So who's fault is it if someone exercises their "right" and runs them over, as in they had the "Right of Way" going straight through the intersection with a green light?

So who's fault is it if someone exercises their "right" and runs them over, as in they had the "Right of Way" going straight through the intersection with a green light?
You still have to wait for it is safe to enter the intersection, even with a green light. The only exception is if some dickhead is brandishing a ruger.

So who's fault is it if someone exercises their "right" and runs them over, as in they had the "Right of Way" going straight through the intersection with a green light?

You mean I have to explain the difference between the ‘right’ to have a driver’s license vs. ‘right of way’? Do I have to explain the difference between ‘right of way’ and ‘right to block an intersection’ because you think your pack takes precedence over my ‘right’ to proceed through an intersection safely? You mean the ‘right’ for me to proceed through a GREEN light vs. the ‘right’ of a biker to cut in front of me almost causing me to hit them?

Are those the ‘rights’ you’re talking about?

BTW… it would have been the biker’s fault for pulling out in front of me, without a turn signal or giving me plenty of time to respond. And it wasn't just one biker that pulled out. It was about 4 or 5 front and back. I came close to hitting one of them. Thankfully I don’t drive like a lot of people – that would have just barreled through the intersection at 50+ mph – and slowed down to about 30 when I saw the chaos.

You mean I have to explain the difference between the ‘right’ to have a driver’s license vs. ‘right of way’? Do I have to explain the difference between ‘right of way’ and ‘right to block an intersection’ because you think your pack takes precedence over my ‘right’ to proceed through an intersection safely? You mean the ‘right’ for me to proceed through a GREEN light vs. the ‘right’ of a biker to cut in front of me almost causing me to hit them?

Are those the ‘rights’ you’re talking about?

BTW… it would have been the biker’s fault for pulling out in front of me, without a turn signal or giving me plenty of time to respond. And it wasn't just one biker that pulled out. It was about 4 or 5 front and back. I came close to hitting one of them. Thankfully I don’t drive like a lot of people – that would have just barreled through the intersection at 50+ mph – and slowed down to about 30 when I saw the chaos.
You don't have to explain anything to me, I'm good. And by "your pack" I hope you aren't referring to me, because the only bike I own is a 12" bicycle. Carry on :coffee:

You don't have to explain anything to me, I'm good. And by "your pack" I hope you aren't referring to me, because the only bike I own is a 12" bicycle. Carry on :coffee:

A rhetorical 'your pack'

His service is on the 16th, this coming weekend.

My bad. I also thought this past Sunday was Father's Day.

Actually, I just saw exactly the same thing a while back by what I guessed was a Corvette club.
One "Blocker" pulled across 765 in Solomons so all the other Corvettes could pull out of:
Roy Rogers.
When the last one was across, we moved. Must be the same "right to block".
Nice cars,didn't mind the parade at all.

I've been blocking traffic for the last 6 years for Military, Military Veteran and first responder funerals... There have been a few times we have been in transit from the rally point to the final destination where we've needed to hold a light beyond the green in order to get everyone safely past... Always try to get everyone thru before a light goes red, but every now and then it do happen... Regardless of whether it was then or during the funeral, the other blockers and myself always try to thank the drivers who are in front of us... I've been screamed at by cagers in both instances... Also been given a thumps-up so it kinda evens out...

I know there are some out there that do take intersections and crowd cages when they are out riding in groups... If you run into it and you don't believe they should be doing it, call the police... Don't lose your temper and maybe cause the death of someone who was just along on the ride... Or end up having a 1%er following you home because you screamed obscenities at him... As long as they are doing it as 'safely' as possible, it should be a minor inconvenience at most...

Around the country most accidents that occur during an intersection block are due to a cager either not paying attention or deciding they are too important to wait and swing around a stopped vehicle...

As a rule for other than funerals (who do have the right of way by law!), I'm against blocking... We're riding... what's the hurry?

Wait...how many vehicles do you have to have in your group to be able to block off an intersection without a police escort? I'm thinking the turn from Chancellor's Run onto 235 during rush hour....

And from 235 onto 2/4 N when I'm trying to get to the Duck for dinner at 5pm.

I've been blocking traffic for the last 6 years for Military, Military Veteran and first responder funerals... There have been a few times we have been in transit from the rally point to the final destination where we've needed to hold a light beyond the green in order to get everyone safely past... Always try to get everyone thru before a light goes red, but every now and then it do happen... Regardless of whether it was then or during the funeral, the other blockers and myself always try to thank the drivers who are in front of us... I've been screamed at by cagers in both instances... Also been given a thumps-up so it kinda evens out...

I know there are some out there that do take intersections and crowd cages when they are out riding in groups... If you run into it and you don't believe they should be doing it, call the police... Don't lose your temper and maybe cause the death of someone who was just along on the ride... Or end up having a 1%er following you home because you screamed obscenities at him... As long as they are doing it as 'safely' as possible, it should be a minor inconvenience at most...

Around the country most accidents that occur during an intersection block are due to a cager either not paying attention or deciding they are too important to wait and swing around a stopped vehicle...

As a rule for other than funerals (who do have the right of way by law!), I'm against blocking... We're riding... what's the hurry?

All for the funeral procession, but I don't get the big deal of breaking up a huge group into a couple smaller ones if it starts to be a problem. They're all going to end up at the same place anyway.

apparently none of you have seen a vehicle plow thru a group, killing 2 & seriously injuring 6 others... because we blocked an intersection for 2 minutes.

Do you think this was done intentionally or did someone think they had a green light and proceeded through what should have been a clear intersection?

If traffic laws had been obeyed by those blocking the intersection, would there have been an accident?

I've been blocking traffic for the last 6 years for Military, Military Veteran and first responder funerals... There have been a few times we have been in transit from the rally point to the final destination where we've needed to hold a light beyond the green in order to get everyone safely past... Always try to get everyone thru before a light goes red, but every now and then it do happen... Regardless of whether it was then or during the funeral, the other blockers and myself always try to thank the drivers who are in front of us... I've been screamed at by cagers in both instances... Also been given a thumps-up so it kinda evens out...

I know there are some out there that do take intersections and crowd cages when they are out riding in groups... If you run into it and you don't believe they should be doing it, call the police... Don't lose your temper and maybe cause the death of someone who was just along on the ride... Or end up having a 1%er following you home because you screamed obscenities at him... As long as they are doing it as 'safely' as possible, it should be a minor inconvenience at most...

Around the country most accidents that occur during an intersection block are due to a cager either not paying attention or deciding they are too important to wait and swing around a stopped vehicle...

As a rule for other than funerals (who do have the right of way by law!), I'm against blocking... We're riding... what's the hurry?

That's the best advice, and really the only thing you can do. For both sides. If you have a huge organized group, give 'em a heads up ahead of time so they can help. If you're in a car getting blocked by meatheads who think they own the road, call it in. The police can't do anything about it if they don't know it's happening.

Saturday morning, around 11:30ish, I’m traveling north on 4. Traffic is unusually slow for a Saturday morning. Then I find out why. There are about 50+ bikers clogging everything up. I get up to the 231 intersection and they are stopped on either side of 4 blocking opposing traffic coming out of 231 so their mob can continue through the intersection when the light turns red. They have no police escort. I come to the intersection and I have bikers cutting directly in front of me and directly behind me from both sides of the road. I had to slam my brakes on to avoid making bloody minced meat out of 2 of you pinheads. When I got up to Cox Rd the mob was turning left at that intersection; again with a couple of biker ‘marshals’ sitting in the intersection blocking traffic so they can continue through, running the red light. One of them (a female) actually had the gall to sit there blocking traffic while she took photos of the trail of bikes as they went through the intersection.

What this gang did was completely illegal and a complete disregard for others. If I were in the opposing traffic and you sat in front of me blocking my way when my light turned green, I’d be inclined to mow right through blasting my horn for you lawbreakers to get the h3ll out of MY way; just as you were doing. The road is there for everyone; not just you boneheads that think that just because you're in your little biker posse you can claim the highway.

We get a lot of threads on here about bikers complaining about 4-wheel drivers not paying enough attention to bikers. Don’t wonder why anymore. Because you pinheads think you own the damn road. You think you can do whatever the heck you want and expect everyone to still look out for YOU. I’m trying to figure out why you bikers think because you’re in a pack you have the right to clog all other traffic up so you can keep your mob together. Why do you think the law doesn’t apply to you? Now that it’s warmed up we’re getting more and more packs riding around cutting in and out of traffic, tailgating, and running red lights.

Don’t give me any more crap about not watching out for you. Don’t expect it when you have no desire to do your part in allowing me to safely look out for you.

What grumpy dude you are!

Ever think that some of those that you are angry about are ministers, doctors, lawyers, moms, dads, veterans, firefighters, all good people doing somthing good for the community?

It would have been better for you to pull over, read your Bible for a bit and ask God for some peace and understanding, you know, what a good Cristian would do: Forgive yourself being impatient and judgemetal over your fellow man! . +++

Peace out Dude!!!!:peace:

...snip what should have been a clear intersection?


That's the only real question. Regardless of whether it "Should have been"... was it? Almost every time I go through dunkirk I see multiple cages run the red light from northbound 2, across the southbound lanes... Not a little red... I've sat and counted to 5 on my bike while I have the GREEN light watching as many as 7 cages cross in front of me... EVERY day on plum point road I watch the traffic northbound run the red light to turn onto plum point... pshaw... who needs to stop on red for a right turn... It should be clear right?

should have been clear isn't an answer... It is up to every driver to ENSURE the intersection is clear... assumptions get people killed... every day...

Once I saw a car crash a block at an intersection, he actually went around 5 other cars, onto the shoulder and then shot through... Another time (DC) the guy actually drove down the embankment to get around the cars who were stopped... The DC cop who had the on-ramp blocked actually had to chase him down because he wouldn't stop then... On 295 a box truck almost took out myself and my wife while an MSP motor has the road blocked... He drove around everyone on the side of the road... Too important to wait... To stupid to see what was happening...

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.


I feel like I've just read a throw away script from Sons of Anarchy. :rolleyes:

I've never gotten the whole "biker" mentality and likely never will. A bunch of grown ass men and women trying to act all cool and bad ass. Most adults outgrew this shortly after high school graduation.

Just sayin. :shrug:

Impressive.

One forumite muses about...

..I’d be inclined to mow right through blasting my horn for you lawbreakers to get the h3ll out of MY way...

...his loathing for the horrific inconvenience of bikers riding together and trying to stay together and a biker, one of the 'dreaded' inconvenience-ers, scourges of the earth, says "Yeah, let's see you try..." and the whole forum wants to jump the ass of the...people on bikes.

Now, given my choice, I would MUCH rather you take a shot at me than 'mow through' me with a car or truck. If you shoot and miss, hey, lot's of near misses in life. Ride a bike sometime around cars and you'll see what I mean. However, if you drive your car through me, not that I am a doctor or even play one on the internets, but, I'm reasonably sure it's gonna hurt.

Me. Not you.

It's kind of interesting, the whole 'inconvenience' thing. Take a lookee at the beltway, any day, twice a day during the week, and what do you see? Thousands upon thousands of bikes clogging the road, crawling along? Acting like they, uh, could not give one damn about anyone else but themselves. Or, is it cars? Rush hour, the vast majority of traffic jams, accidents, people reading, texting, drinking, doing their makeup and ending up inconveniencing everyone on...bikes? Or IN cars?

Maybe 50 bikes together sticks out like a sore thumb because you see it, what, once a week? Maybe twice? And then only in the summer. While you see car jams and accidents and cutting one another off and so on and so forth what, all day? Every day?

I know this forum, because it is so many military folks, are a more law and order, follow the rules crowd than some places and that's great. Thank you one and all, spouses too, for your service and your sacrifices. But, come on. You never wanna be part of something a tad outside the lines? Ever wanna feel the wind in your face? Just go ride and forget about all your worries? Maybe do something really outrageous like...stop traffic? For two minutes?

I'd strongly urge anyone who has a hankering to go get you some training and a nice starter bike and maybe go for a ride once in awhile. You'll see the day to day world a whole lot different. Way different than in a cage...err...car. It smells different, looks different, feels different. It feels awfully...free. You can go fast or just putt along. Maybe go with a bunch of buddies and hang out and then go ride some more. A couple things do suck about it though. The tar snakes on the road in summer. Dead animals. Thug deer.

And cars that crowd you. Or blow through stops signs when you are about to take your turn. Or miss that red light. Or just flat out don't see you.

If you do NOT like feeling vulnerable, at all, it might not be for you, riding a motorcycle, because, no matter how big your ride, and mine is a big 'un, you come back to earth real quick when some really nice ####t...fellow citizen starts crowding you with their car...or nearly ####ing kills you.

I think it's nice that every facet of life, from how much soda you can have, to cigarettes to helmets, seat belts, and so on and so forth are all forming a more perfect union at the direction of people who don't like what others do. However, do you really want every last segment of life to be in line and following orders to the T? Do you really want bikers, ####ing bikers...to be safe and secure and orderly as well???? Because if you do, if you do, don't bother going for a ride because that is not what it is about. It isn't about anarchy but, riding a motorcycle is certainly and for damn sure about more freedom than one might have the rest of the week.

So, if you mow down a biker, or ten, in a fit of rage at your being outrageously inconvenienced for two whole minutes in between traffic jams, I'd suggest you might feel bad about it later. But you're never gonna feel as bad about it as we do. Assuming we live through your fit.

:buddies:

Wait...how many vehicles do you have to have in your group to be able to block off an intersection without a police escort? I'm thinking the turn from Chancellor's Run onto 235 during rush hour....

It is illegal to block traffic for groups of bikes no matter how many or few. I've been told this by everyone I've ever ridden with. You have to have a police escort to do it legally. And they do the blocking.

I feel like I've just read a throw away script from Sons of Anarchy. :rolleyes:

I've never gotten the whole "biker" mentality and likely never will. A bunch of grown ass men and women trying to act all cool and bad ass. Most adults outgrew this shortly after high school graduation.

Just sayin. :shrug:

I make toast, and when I do I always pack a .45 S&W. You never know when you drop that handle and the orange glow starts what kind of trouble you are in for. If that damn toaster tries to burn MY toast I have, and will whip out that .45 and send a couple rounds through its pansy ass chrome housing. Don't even get me started on toaster ovens. I have done time because of a jumpy Black and Decker model 255.

Do you think this was done intentionally or did someone think they had a green light and proceeded through what should have been a clear intersection? ?

I know one car who got knocked over by a lady who simply wasn't going to stand for this sort of inconvenience. Often, people get their bike blinders on and it simply doesn't register.

The VAST majority of my experiences, car and truck folks are all too happy to hold up traffic for us. Either they ride too, or just enjoy seeing all the bikes. Or just don't take offense to this.

:shrug:

Impressive.

"Yeah, let's see you try..." and the whole forum wants to jump the ass of the...people on bikes.

:buddies:

We must be reading a totally different thread because I see mostly folks jumping PsyOps ass. In this area it seems that bikers can do no wrong and I'm sorry, I see folks on bikes doing stupid, illegal, assinine crap on a daily basis. Then they blame that crap on someone in a vehicle with 4 wheels.

The scenario PsyOps described was illegal and irresponsible on the part of the pack of bikes. Do I have the right to stop traffic when any of my buddies are following me in my vehicle? I sure as hell don't. Bikes shouldn't get some special freakin treatment. It's absurd.

I feel like I've just read a throw away script from Sons of Anarchy. :rolleyes:


:lol:

I've never gotten the whole "biker" mentality and likely never will. A bunch of grown ass men and women trying to act all cool and bad ass. Most adults outgrew this shortly after high school graduation.

Just sayin. :shrug:
Many times it's older men trying to fight the aging process by pretending they're still born to be wild. They like to travel in large groups of other older people in case someone breaks a hip.

We must be reading a totally different thread because I see mostly folks jumping PsyOps ass. In this area it seems that bikers can do no wrong and I'm sorry, I see folks on bikes doing stupid, illegal, assinine crap on a daily basis. Then they blame that crap on someone in a vehicle with 4 wheels.

The scenario PsyOps described was illegal and irresponsible on the part of the pack of bikes. Do I have the right to stop traffic when any of my buddies are following me in my vehicle? I sure as hell don't. Bikes shouldn't get some special freakin treatment. It's absurd.

There are quite a few treads on this here forum letting bikers, rightly, have it. From bikers, too. Morons who run into the back of other cars and cause the entire EMT community to have to show up and clean up the pieces. :evil: . 130 mph wheelies down route 4. All sorts of jack ass behavior weaving in and out of traffic.

There are also WAY more treads about 4 wheel jack assery. Way more.

:buddies:

Many times it's older men trying to fight the aging process by pretending they're still born to be wild. They like to travel in large groups of other older people in case someone breaks a hip.

:lol:

You said 'stillborn' heh. hehehee. heh....

:lol:

Whats totally illegal is the motor vehicle that wiped out a rider in Leonardtown, who was participating in the Calvert County Hospice House benefit run, which by the way, wasn't this ride because we didn't leave until 12:00 Saturday from CJ"s. Thankfully, they said he was doing good, as well as can be expected after being plowed down by someone driving a car, and who obviously thought they had the ROW because they didn't want to wait to merge! And what is totally illegal is that the driver of this motor vehicle, just took off. We ride for many causes and even though you may not have a need now, you or your loved ones, may need help one day, and it just might be those you critisize now that will be there to help you in your time of need! So just chill and be a little patient and understanding the next time!
:smoochy:

We must be reading a totally different thread because I see mostly folks jumping PsyOps ass. In this area it seems that bikers can do no wrong and I'm sorry, I see folks on bikes doing stupid, illegal, assinine crap on a daily basis. Then they blame that crap on someone in a vehicle with 4 wheels.

The scenario PsyOps described was illegal and irresponsible on the part of the pack of bikes. Do I have the right to stop traffic when any of my buddies are following me in my vehicle? I sure as hell don't. Bikes shouldn't get some special freakin treatment. It's absurd.
That was true up until don'tknowwhy pulled out his big old internet weenie and everyone immediately saw why some bikers have reputations as #######s.

There are quite a few treads on this here forum letting bikers, rightly, have it. From bikers, too. Morons who run into the back of other cars and cause the entire EMT community to have to show up and clean up the pieces. :evil: . 130 mph wheelies down route 4. All sorts of jack ass behavior weaving in and out of traffic.

There are also WAY more treads about 4 wheel jack assery. Way more.

:buddies:

especially the guy who left the big crack in my window

There are quite a few treads on this here forum letting bikers, rightly, have it. From bikers, too. Morons who run into the back of other cars and cause the entire EMT community to have to show up and clean up the pieces. :evil: . 130 mph wheelies down route 4. All sorts of jack ass behavior weaving in and out of traffic.

There are also WAY more treads about 4 wheel jack assery. Way more.

:buddies:
Maybe because there are way more 4 wheel vehicles than bikes.

especially the guy who left the big crack in my window

Dual exhaust...

That was true up until don'tknowwhy pulled out his big old internet weenie and everyone immediately saw why some bikers have reputations as #######s.

Including many bikers.

especially the guy who left the big crack in my window

ewww... :lol:

Maybe because there are way more 4 wheel a-holes, inconsiderate's and bad drivers than bikes.

Agreed. Democracy in action.

:buddies:

I've been blocking traffic for the last 6 years for Military, Military Veteran and first responder funerals... There have been a few times we have been in transit from the rally point to the final destination where we've needed to hold a light beyond the green in order to get everyone safely past... Always try to get everyone thru before a light goes red, but every now and then it do happen... Regardless of whether it was then or during the funeral, the other blockers and myself always try to thank the drivers who are in front of us... I've been screamed at by cagers in both instances... Also been given a thumps-up so it kinda evens out...

I know there are some out there that do take intersections and crowd cages when they are out riding in groups... If you run into it and you don't believe they should be doing it, call the police... Don't lose your temper and maybe cause the death of someone who was just along on the ride... Or end up having a 1%er following you home because you screamed obscenities at him... As long as they are doing it as 'safely' as possible, it should be a minor inconvenience at most...

Around the country most accidents that occur during an intersection block are due to a cager either not paying attention or deciding they are too important to wait and swing around a stopped vehicle...

As a rule for other than funerals (who do have the right of way by law!), I'm against blocking... We're riding... what's the hurry?

You want to get there safely? When the light turns red STOP! How hard is that? Is there a reason all 500 of you have to arrive at the same time? These people were blocking the intersection at 231 while the light was still green. So they knew they were going to have to block it anyway.

I’m not screaming because you block the intersection (although it is pretty annoying), I’m screaming at the fact that these people felt they could just pull out into moving traffic and expect not to get hit. Maybe I’ll brag a bit a say this person is lucky I’m experienced enough that they didn’t get turned into asphalt. I didn’t lose my temper. I did everything I could to avoid hitting someone that wasn’t paying attention. I got angry after it was over thinking how stupid it was.

You bikers seem so caught up in your little world that you don’t even seem to realize the danger you put yourself and others in, even after I have tried to tell you about 10 times now what happened.

And you asked “what’s the hurry?” Well the same question goes out to you and your packs. What’s the hurry? Why not just obey traffic laws and catch up at your rallying point? You talk a lot about ‘cagers’ and their not paying attention while ignoring the flip side; that there are just as many 2-wheelers out there that do the same. You have this one-way cooperation mentality that so many others have. It’s absolutely annoying.

And are you telling me I should be worried that someone is going to follow me home and plug me for cussing them? Really? And you want to lecture someone for losing their temper? Do you even pay attention to what you’re writing?

here's some answers to your whining about us bikers psyops:

1. there were 2 major benefit runs taking place this weekend that were announced on the radio well in advance letting every intelligent member of our community know the roads were going to be clogged with bikers this weekend. Sorry if you're not a member of the intelligent community nor do you have any respect for bikers. we share the same respect for you.

2. Like it was stated before, many off duty police in both of these runs but for we prefer not to have police escorts because they always seem to create more chaos with them getting involved. Police in general tend to be pretty useless at everything they do.

3. & this is probably the most important thing you should remember when you want to run thru a roadblock, which, we DO have the right to conduct for the safety of everybody...I am usually designated as a blocker. I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride. And you go ahead & even inch my way threatehing to cause me or my group harm you SOB. Your vehicle wouldn't be the first whose windshield, tires, & radiator I take out...in public...And i'll be more than happy to do yet ANOTHER WEEKEND for my cause...Understand that psyops...just 1 weekend for making you poo yourself on the highway

4. I would show up to court with 50 witnesses stating you caused the incident. How many witnesses will you show up with? And make no mistake, my cheerleading section, plus ties to the good ol boy network in all 3 counties will make sure our day in court goes well in my favor.

So what kind of pirate costume do you wear??

Are you a Eroll Flynn kind of Pirate or Johny Depp or a Wild Hogs kinda pirate?

especially the guy who left the big crack in my window

I hope he at least wiped first..

Impressive.

One forumite muses about...



...his loathing for the horrific inconvenience of bikers riding together and trying to stay together and a biker, one of the 'dreaded' inconvenience-ers, scourges of the earth, says "Yeah, let's see you try..." and the whole forum wants to jump the ass of the...people on bikes.

Damnit Larry! Now you've done like so many others and glazed over my real point. I almost creamed a biker and this is what you focus on. THAT would have been REAL inconvenient. All because these people felt they had a ‘RIGHT’ to stay together as a pack; jutting out in front of me; demanding that I watch for them and not the other way around. The person that made me slam my brakes on almost causing bikers behind me to hit me needs to have their ass jumped on. And they need some remedial safety training as well.

Dual exhaust...

DuEl exhaust..

Damnit Larry! Now you've done like so many others and glazed over my real point. I almost creamed a biker and this is what you focus on. THAT would have been REAL inconvenient. All because these people felt they had a ‘RIGHT’ to stay together as a pack; jutting out in front of me; demanding that I watch for them and not the other way around. The person that made me slam my brakes on almost causing bikers behind me to hit me needs to have their ass jumped on. And they need some remedial safety training as well.

You didn't see 50 bikes until it was almost too late? You didn't see this???

3i5rExuLOEk


:lmao:

So, if you mow down a biker, or ten, in a fit of rage at your being outrageously inconvenienced for two whole minutes in between traffic jams, I'd suggest you might feel bad about it later. But you're never gonna feel as bad about it as we do. Assuming we live through your fit.

:buddies:

Damnit Larry again! I didn't write "mow down"; I wrote "mow right through blasting my horn for you lawbreakers to get the h3ll out of MY way".

But for shame with my thinking when I have the green that I have the right of way; now I'd get a plug in my radiator for it. :ohwell:

So what kind of pirate costume do you wear??




:killingme

Damnit Larry again! I didn't write "mow down"; I wrote "mow right through blasting my horn for you lawbreakers to get the h3ll out of MY way".

But for shame with my thinking when I have the green that I have the right of way; now I'd get a plug in my radiator for it. :ohwell:

You cuss alot. I think jazz makes people angry. Now that I think about it, jazz is a lot like 50 motorcycles at an intersection; you are stuck sitting there looking for your chance to jump in and their really seems to be no rhythm or reason to it but they seem to know what they are doing...

:lol:

What grumpy dude you are!

Ever think that some of those that you are angry about are ministers, doctors, lawyers, moms, dads, veterans, firefighters, all good people doing somthing good for the community?

It would have been better for you to pull over, read your Bible for a bit and ask God for some peace and understanding, you know, what a good Cristian would do: Forgive yourself being impatient and judgemetal over your fellow man! . +++

Peace out Dude!!!!:peace:

:pete: yeah, grumpy is me.

You want to get there safely? When the light turns red STOP! How hard is that? Is there a reason all 500 of you have to arrive at the same time? These people were blocking the intersection at 231 while the light was still green. So they knew they were going to have to block it anyway.

I’m not screaming because you block the intersection (although it is pretty annoying), I’m screaming at the fact that these people felt they could just pull out into moving traffic and expect not to get hit. Maybe I’ll brag a bit a say this person is lucky I’m experienced enough that they didn’t get turned into asphalt. I didn’t lose my temper. I did everything I could to avoid hitting someone that wasn’t paying attention. I got angry after it was over thinking how stupid it was.

You bikers seem so caught up in your little world that you don’t even seem to realize the danger you put yourself and others in, even after I have tried to tell you about 10 times now what happened.

And you asked “what’s the hurry?” Well the same question goes out to you and your packs. What’s the hurry? Why not just obey traffic laws and catch up at your rallying point? You talk a lot about ‘cagers’ and their not paying attention while ignoring the flip side; that there are just as many 2-wheelers out there that do the same. You have this one-way cooperation mentality that so many others have. It’s absolutely annoying.

And are you telling me I should be worried that someone is going to follow me home and plug me for cussing them? Really? And you want to lecture someone for losing their temper? Do you even pay attention to what you’re writing?

Is 500 an exaggeration? That would be a major ride and almost certainly police escorted...

1. We don't take the intersection unless we have the green. And yes in "some instances" it is safer to keep the group together... Since I wasn't there and don't know anything about that ride, I could only speculate... But if I've made the decision in the past to do so, it was in my experience the right decision... Been riding 40 years and know a hell of a lot more about that than you. Experience is a great teacher. Have been on the pavement looking at the sky a dozen times thanks to cagers. I ride extremely defensively. I have had a cager look me in the eye as they changed lanes right into me. Because they were in a hurry and the car in front of him was too slow...

2. Taking an intersection when you have the red is stupid. Agreed. No argument. Most cops will wait for the green or slide REALLY slow into the intersection with lights and siren.. I would expect to get plowed to be honest...

3. I don't care how annoying it is. Don't believe me check the Safety Institute Statistics. Cagers kill bikers. Every day. Are there idiots on scoots out there? Oh yeah... Many of them unlicensed, so it is a redundant description. Riding a bike is dangerous because of cages. Anyone that gets on a scoot and doesn't pay attention is no better than a cager and should switch back. Yes again, there are asshat bikers.. no argument... There are just so many freakin LESS of them...

4. Dude... lol... That was friendly advice, not a lecture... that's all... And yes... One of them may very well do so... I saw a 1%er in Texas put his fist through a windshield of a sedan that beeped at him at an intersection... Also saw a Samoan on Kam Hwy in Hawaii do the same thing to a car behind him that beeped at him...

You cuss alot. I think jazz makes people angry. Now that I think about it, jazz is a lot like 50 motorcycles at an intersection; you are stuck sitting there looking for your chance to jump in and their really seems to be no rhythm or reason to it but they seem to know what they are doing...

:lol:

She is NOT going to like you talking trash about her... oh no she ain't.

Riding a bike is dangerous. It gets more dangerous because of cages. It gets even worse if they are jazz players in htose cages because jazz makes people angry and cuss alot and fantasize about mowing down bikers like so much hay in a field. Like a scythe, rip, tear, destroy. It's sort of a heavy metal jazz thing. I guess.

:buddies:

She is NOT going to like you talking trash about her... oh no she ain't.

I hadn't considered that. I feel like I just pulled out to block and looked over and suddenly noticed a guy in a car listening to Coltrane. Really loud. With a snow plow on the front of his car. With sharp edges.

:jameo:

You cuss alot. I think jazz makes people angry. Now that I think about it, jazz is a lot like 50 motorcycles at an intersection; you are stuck sitting there looking for your chance to jump in and their really seems to be no rhythm or reason to it but they seem to know what they are doing...

:lol:

Yeah, it's the Christian in me. Just ask ...

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I Experience is a great teacher. Have been on the pavement looking at the sky a dozen times thanks to cagers. I ride extremely defensively. I ...

Well apparently your bike Ain't loud enough for people to see you..

Is 500 an exaggeration? That would be a major ride and almost certainly police escorted...

Yes, it was an exaggeration :rolleyes:

groan

Well apparently your bike Ain't loud enough for people to see you..

:killingme

...Riding a bike is dangerous because of cages...

And I think it's going to get more dangerous when you've got bikers pretending to be cops, sitting in front of the flow of traffic causing chaos. If you don't have lights, siren, & uniform, the average driver heading into that mess won't know which way to go.

And the cagers that you have so little faith in? Those are the people that you are trusting to see you, and stop, when they have a green light telling them to go. Why would you put yourself in front of them? You're going to get flattened. That's not a threat from me - I don't want it to happen. I'm just saying, somebody is going to make a mistake and you're going to be a speed bump.

I say the same thing about cops that pull people over while they stand on the road, radar gun in hand. I will never step foot in front of a moving vehicle. You can't trust the driver to see you and do the right thing.

1. We don't take the intersection unless we have the green. And yes in "some instances" it is safer to keep the group together... Since I wasn't there and don't know anything about that ride, I could only speculate... But if I've made the decision in the past to do so, it was in my experience the right decision... Been riding 40 years and know a hell of a lot more about that than you. Experience is a great teacher. Have been on the pavement looking at the sky a dozen times thanks to cagers. I ride extremely defensively. I have had a cager look me in the eye as they changed lanes right into me. Because they were in a hurry and the car in front of him was too slow...

False! You obviously weren’t there, so you obviously don’t know more about this one. And if you’ve been on the pavement a dozen times, I’d say you need a bit more experience and you’re doing something wrong. I’ve had bikers look me in the eye as they squeeze right between me and the car barely ahead of me in the left lane. :shrug:

2. Taking an intersection when you have the red is stupid. Agreed. No argument. Most cops will wait for the green or slide REALLY slow into the intersection with lights and siren.. I would expect to get plowed to be honest...

Thank you for being honest.

3. I don't care how annoying it is. Don't believe me check the Safety Institute Statistics. Cagers kill bikers. Every day. Are there idiots on scoots out there? Oh yeah... Many of them unlicensed, so it is a redundant description. Riding a bike is dangerous because of cages. Anyone that gets on a scoot and doesn't pay attention is no better than a cager and should switch back. Yes again, there are asshat bikers.. no argument... There are just so many freakin LESS of them...

I’m not disputing this. The biker that hit me in the rear, if he had died, would have killed himself because he was following too close and going too fast. And it was a Harley biker at that.

4. Dude... lol... That was friendly advice, not a lecture... that's all... And yes... One of them may very well do so... I saw a 1%er in Texas put his fist through a windshield of a sedan that beeped at him at an intersection... Also saw a Samoan on Kam Hwy in Hawaii do the same thing to a car behind him that beeped at him...

You bikers are some really tough dudes. And have BAD tempers. :lol:

Been riding 40 years and know a hell of a lot more about that than you. Experience is a great teacher. Have been on the pavement looking at the sky a dozen times thanks to cagers.


I have to question this. I've been riding for near 50 years, and have never been on the pavement for any reason. And I know quite a few other riders that can say the same thing. Leads me to believe you were not fully aware of what was going on around you, and had an exit strategy.

I have to question this. I've been riding for near 50 years, and have never been on the pavement for any reason. And I know quite a few other riders that can say the same thing. Leads me to believe you were not fully aware of what was going on around you, and had an exit strategy.
:yeahthat: You should PM Aps... he is certified to give you bike training.

:yeahthat: You should PM Aps... he is certified to give you bike training.

:lol: I think I could teach him a thing or three....

:lol: I think I could teach him a thing or three....

But, do you know how to drive a miata?

I make toast, and when I do I always pack a .45 S&W. You never know when you drop that handle and the orange glow starts what kind of trouble you are in for. If that damn toaster tries to burn MY toast I have, and will whip out that .45 and send a couple rounds through its pansy ass chrome housing. Don't even get me started on toaster ovens. I have done time because of a jumpy Black and Decker model 255.

Wow, that's :hot:

But, do you know how to drive a miata?

First you don the assless chaps and feather boa...

Is 500 an exaggeration? That would be a major ride and almost certainly police escorted...

1. We don't take the intersection unless we have the green. And yes in "some instances" it is safer to keep the group together... Since I wasn't there and don't know anything about that ride, I could only speculate... But if I've made the decision in the past to do so, it was in my experience the right decision... Been riding 40 years and know a hell of a lot more about that than you. Experience is a great teacher. Have been on the pavement looking at the sky a dozen times thanks to cagers. I ride extremely defensively. I have had a cager look me in the eye as they changed lanes right into me. Because they were in a hurry and the car in front of him was too slow...


3. I don't care how annoying it is. Don't believe me check the Safety Institute Statistics. Cagers kill bikers. Every day. Are there idiots on scoots out there? Oh yeah... Many of them unlicensed, so it is a redundant description. Riding a bike is dangerous because of cages. Anyone that gets on a scoot and doesn't pay attention is no better than a cager and should switch back. Yes again, there are asshat bikers.. no argument... There are just so many freakin LESS of them...

...

Biker lingo is so gay. :lol: JMHO :shrug:

Biker lingo is so gay. :lol: JMHO :shrug:

Okay that sent me over the edge :roflmao:

Okay that sent me over the edge :roflmao:

Seriously? "Cager"?

Seriously? "Cager"?

I am guessing a "Cager" is somebody driving a car?

I am guessing a "Cager" is somebody driving a car?

Obviously. :lol:

I guess it is supposed to be a derogatory term for those of us who have enough sense to ride around in a vehicle with doors and seatbelts.

Obviously. :lol:


I use to ride and never heard that term, but I had a Ducati (900 SS SP).

Obviously. :lol:

I guess it is supposed to be a derogatory term for those of us who have enough sense to ride around in a vehicle with doors and seatbelts.

:yeahthat:

I can get all the fun of the wind blowing through my hair by opening the windows and sunroof in my beautiful 3,300 lb (curb weight) mini suv, and I don't have to worry quite as much about losing a limp or two or four to another idiot driver.

I prefer to seek my adrenaline rushes in other ways... :wink:

You cuss alot. I think jazz makes people angry. Now that I think about it, jazz is a lot like 50 motorcycles at an intersection; you are stuck sitting there looking for your chance to jump in and their really seems to be no rhythm or reason to it but they seem to know what they are doing...

:lol:

Bastage. :mad:

She is NOT going to like you talking trash about her... oh no she ain't.

You think so? :lol:

I hadn't considered that. I feel like I just pulled out to block and looked over and suddenly noticed a GIRL in a car listening to Coltrane. Really loud. With a snow plow on the front of HER car. With sharp edges.

:jameo:

:fixed: and :yeahthat: and she's aiming straight for YOU with blood in her eyes. :evil:

Seriously? "Cager"?

No, you saying that biker lingo is gay. :lol:

No, you saying that biker lingo is gay. :lol:

Aps used to always call car drivers "cagers" and look down his nose at them...until he bought his Miata. :whistle: :lol:

Aps used to always call car drivers "cagers" and look down his nose at them...until he bought his Miata. :whistle: :lol:

I'm not sure a Miata would qualify as a cage, maybe a coop.

I'm not sure a Miata would qualify as a cage, maybe a coop.

He looked down at ANY vehicle (whether it be car, truck or SUV) that wasn't a motorcycle including my convertible as I well remember the conversations. And it's NOT a "coupe" as that has implies it has a hard lid. :wink:

He looked down at ANY vehicle (whether it be car, truck or SUV) that wasn't a motorcycle including my convertible as I well remember the conversations. And it's NOT a "coupe" as that has implies it has a hard lid. :wink:

I was thinking coop like chicken coop, not manly enough to be a cage, but I couldn't think of a name for a gay cage other than coop.

I was thinking coop like chicken coop, not manly enough to be a cage, but I couldn't think of a name for a gay cage other than coop.

Okay, I'm strangely following your logic on this one. :lmao:

I was thinking coop like chicken coop, not manly enough to be a cage, but I couldn't think of a name for a gay cage other than coop.

You don't have chickens, do you? They get a bad name because of that stupid Chicken Little but, little in this world is as bad ass as...chickens. It's like getting to watch mini dinosaurs in action. They are brutal. It is absolutely lucky for us they aren't much bigger or they'd kill us all. The only thing more bad ass than chickens is a rooster. Little bastards will die defending their turf and their hens. Go up against anything.

Except, maybe, someone in a Miata. :lol:

:yeahthat:

I can get all the fun of the wind blowing through my hair by opening the windows and sunroof in my beautiful 3,300 lb (curb weight) mini suv, :

No, you can't. It's like the difference, even in a jeep with the top off, between skinny dipping and jumping in a pool with all your cloths on. You're still wet but, it just ain't the same.

:buddies:

We must be reading a totally different thread because I see mostly folks jumping PsyOps ass. In this area it seems that bikers can do no wrong and I'm sorry, I see folks on bikes doing stupid, illegal, assinine crap on a daily basis. Then they blame that crap on someone in a vehicle with 4 wheels.

The scenario PsyOps described was illegal and irresponsible on the part of the pack of bikes. Do I have the right to stop traffic when any of my buddies are following me in my vehicle? I sure as hell don't. Bikes shouldn't get some special freakin treatment. It's absurd.

We saw something similar on the way over to a friend's house in Mechanicsville a couple of weeks ago. The bikers were blocking the intersection where Rt. 5N splits off before the traffic circles, so the bikers could crossover. There were only a few straggler bikers at that point, but the blockers were still there, so traffic wasn't really being affected. I don't recall ever knowing this was legal or even acceptable - except in funeral processions or some kind of formally sanctioned parade, etc.

I am also carrying a .40 cal Ruger with me whenever I ride.

Most 4-wheelers are 4000 pound biker squashers. You might want to reevaluate your primary offense/defense piece.

No, you can't. It's like the difference, even in a jeep with the top off, between skinny dipping and jumping in a pool with all your cloths on. You're still wet but, it just ain't the same.

:buddies:

If it doesn't lean, it just not the same..

If it doesn't lean, it just not the same..

I had a Kia minivan as a rental once that leaned more than any motorcycle Ive ever seen on the road.

No, you can't. It's like the difference, even in a jeep with the top off, between skinny dipping and jumping in a pool with all your cloths on. You're still wet but, it just ain't the same.

:buddies:

Back in the day, ladies referred to Harley's as "Milwaukee Vibrators" for a reason.

Back in the day, ladies referred to Harley's as "Milwaukee Vibrators" for a reason.

They still do, and for those that don't hum quite enough, there are seat add-ons to assist.

No kidding...

I have to question this. I've been riding for near 50 years, and have never been on the pavement for any reason. And I know quite a few other riders that can say the same thing. Leads me to believe you were not fully aware of what was going on around you, and had an exit strategy.

Leads me to believe they are 'weekend' riders...

Hit in the left saddlebag by a woman in texas who ran a red light. No where to go and because she was stopped, didn't even see it coming. Ended up against the high curb. Hit from behind in Hawaii sitting off-set with the car in front of me at the red light. Guy behind stopped. Reached for his cell phone in the front seat and plowed right into me. Woman in Waldorf ran the stop sign. Missed the collision by braking, had an exit route, she brakes and then gases into my escape route.. hit the gravel, slid... down... Sitting at a stop light in Frederick... Looking in the mirror at the driver's eyes in the truck in front of me... See his backup lights go on... HORN, YELL... Traffic coming at me on my left, cars behind me, cars parked to my right... crunch... "I saw you I just thought I had more room" Those were just the last couple... Woman in a Toyota Sequoia tried to take me out yesterday on my way back to Htown from work... Intentionally, nope... She placed her blind spot just so entering Riva Rd and could not have seen a freaking 18 wheeler coming... off the throttle, horn... she stops in the middle of the east bound lane... almost wipes out two other cages...

There was only one time I ever went down that it was avoidable and it was my fault. And that was in a corn field. Well, it ended there... :blushing: My wake-up call on scoots and alcohol...

You've been near riding 50 years... You are a lucky man... My years have been almost exclusively on 2 wheels... I taught the motorcycle safety course at Randolph AFB... I ride year round, pretty much every single day as long as there isn't ice in the driveway... Many years I haven't even owned a cage... I let my wife trade my truck in for her new SUV... It was just sitting anyway... I put a few more miles on than your average weekend rider... There is no such thing as a "riding season"...

So you can question away... And be glad you've been lucky... There are two types of bikers... those who have had accidents, and those who are going to... and just because you are in the first category doesn't exclude you from the 2nd...

...There are two types of bikers... those who have had accidents, and those who are going to... and just because you are in the first category doesn't exclude you from the 2nd...

I used to think that which was one BIG reason I didn't ride. Then, once I decided to ride, took some extra classes, the intermediate class, Total Control, and got some miles under me and having talked to several riders who'd never been down and having talked to a number of people who had been down and there stories invariably started "I had to lay it down because of this idiot' but ended "Well, yeah, I was going to fast/following to close, etc, I started thinking it was possible through working at the skills and being a diligent rider that it was possible, maybe even probable, that I could avoid an accident.

Now, I've got 20,000 miles under me the last two years, ride year round, I am back to square one; gonna have an accident sooner or later. I still work at what I am doing, taking skills classes, get my head right before I climb on, and have not had a close call yet other than almost losing it in a buddies driveway :stupid: , I tend to take note of instances where someone (or, something) could have gotten me no matter what I did.

Hope and work for it to never happen but, I wouldn't tell anyone you can guarantee your own safety, forever, on a bike.

:buddies:

The answer to the original question is:

It is illegal to impede the right of way of traffic. Bikes blocking, corvettes blocking, doesn't matter. It is against the law. Do people do it? Yes... Bikes more than others... yes... should we? no....

If you go through a block and hit a bike you are guilty of "failure to avoid an accident" and possibly vehicular manslaughter... Most cops will also write you for reckless if you illegally went around other vehicles to get by...

You got some bitter women on here... Cage=4 wheel vehicle... is descriptive, not necessarily pejorative... on a zero degree day, 30 mile an hour winds, standing a flag line for an hour... the cage with it's heater is greatly appreciated...

Biker Mob... lol...

I used to think that which was one BIG reason I didn't ride. Then, once I decided to ride, took some extra classes, the intermediate class, Total Control, and got some miles under me and having talked to several riders who'd never been down and having talked to a number of people who had been down and there stories invariably started "I had to lay it down because of this idiot' but ended "Well, yeah, I was going to fast/following to close, etc, I started thinking it was possible through working at the skills and being a diligent rider that it was possible, maybe even probable, that I could avoid an accident.

Now, I've got 20,000 miles under me the last two years, ride year round, I am back to square one; gonna have an accident sooner or later. I still work at what I am doing, taking skills classes, get my head right before I climb on, and have not had a close call yet other than almost losing it in a buddies driveway :stupid: , I tend to take note of instances where someone (or, something) could have gotten me no matter what I did.

Hope and work for it to never happen but, I wouldn't tell anyone you can guarantee your own safety, forever, on a bike.

:buddies:

Outstanding! I always assume they aren't going to stop or they are going to slam on their brakes at 50 mph to avoid hitting the poor duck in the road... Problem is the other 'vehicles' (don't want to annoy the ladies anymore) around you don't assume the same thing... They just assume all is well...

It's the one you don't see... Buddy of mine had been riding for 40+ years with never a scrape... One of the safest, most careful dudes I have ever ridden with... Freakin deer jumped out of bushes, landed on him (guess it secretly wanted a harley)... never even saw it coming... It was a magic trick.. *poof* deer... Luckily he survived with minor scrapes... bike didn't... of course the damn deer managed to just wander off unperturbed.. Guess he decided on a Gold Wing instead....

:buddies:

The answer to the original question is:

It is illegal to impede the right of way of traffic. Bikes blocking, corvettes blocking, doesn't matter. It is against the law. Do people do it? Yes... Bikes more than others... yes... should we? no....

If you go through a block and hit a bike you are guilty of "failure to avoid an accident" and possibly vehicular manslaughter... Most cops will also write you for reckless if you illegally went around other vehicles to get by...

You got some bitter women on here... Cage=4 wheel vehicle... is descriptive, not necessarily pejorative... on a zero degree day, 30 mile an hour winds, standing a flag line for an hour... the cage with it's heater is greatly appreciated...

Biker Mob... lol...

I'm not bitter. :confused:

I used to think that which was one BIG reason I didn't ride. Now, I've got 20,000 miles under me the last two years, ride year round, :buddies:

Yea, but you're lucky enough to still live in the boonies, not as many idiots on the road.

Well apparently your bike Ain't loud enough for people to see you..

good one :killingme

Outstanding! I always assume they aren't going to stop or they are going to slam on their brakes at 50 mph to avoid hitting the poor duck in the road... Problem is the other 'vehicles' (don't want to annoy the ladies anymore) around you don't assume the same thing... They just assume all is well...

It's the one you don't see... Buddy of mine had been riding for 40+ years with never a scrape... One of the safest, most careful dudes I have ever ridden with... Freakin deer jumped out of bushes, landed on him (guess it secretly wanted a harley)... never even saw it coming... It was a magic trick.. *poof* deer... Luckily he survived with minor scrapes... bike didn't... of course the damn deer managed to just wander off unperturbed.. Guess he decided on a Gold Wing instead....

:buddies:

I don't claim to be 'safe' in that I ride cautiously. I tend to be rather aggressive taking the position that a good offense, move through, and get away from, potential dangers and being a moving target that doesn't just sit in the slow lane at 55 mph, is the best mindset. I also ride at night and take the occasional corner that I know might be a tad quicker than what an emergency and my braking skills and the bikes mass and velocity can manage upright. I figure there is a deer(s) out there akin to what you describe with my name on it.

I've hit one with a car. Saw him coming and the summbytch put his head down and charged as I slowed and moved away.

So far, my only animal contact was a squirrel that could not make up his mind and ran in circles when he heard me coming. I ran out of time and guess's as to his next move, aimed for what was safe for me and....thump...

Yea, but you're lucky enough to still live in the boonies, not as many idiots on the road.

But, I ride everywhere. Beltway. Downtown Baltimore and DC, Ohio, heading to Greensboro soon. Granted, I only get in the mess when I choose but, I'll ride anywhere.

No, you saying that biker lingo is gay. :lol:

I know. :lol: I was saying "seriously? Cager?" As in who says that kind of stuff? :lol:

Saturday morning, around 11:30ish, I’m traveling north on 4. Traffic is unusually slow for a Saturday morning. Then I find out why. There are about 50+ bikers clogging everything up. I get up to the 231 intersection and they are stopped on either side of 4 blocking opposing traffic coming out of 231 so their mob can continue through the intersection when the light turns red. They have no police escort. I come to the intersection and I have bikers cutting directly in front of me and directly behind me from both sides of the road. I had to slam my brakes on to avoid making bloody minced meat out of 2 of you pinheads. When I got up to Cox Rd the mob was turning left at that intersection; again with a couple of biker ‘marshals’ sitting in the intersection blocking traffic so they can continue through, running the red light. One of them (a female) actually had the gall to sit there blocking traffic while she took photos of the trail of bikes as they went through the intersection.

What this gang did was completely illegal and a complete disregard for others. If I were in the opposing traffic and you sat in front of me blocking my way when my light turned green, I’d be inclined to mow right through blasting my horn for you lawbreakers to get the h3ll out of MY way; just as you were doing. The road is there for everyone; not just you boneheads that think that just because you're in your little biker posse you can claim the highway.

We get a lot of threads on here about bikers complaining about 4-wheel drivers not paying enough attention to bikers. Don’t wonder why anymore. Because you pinheads think you own the damn road. You think you can do whatever the heck you want and expect everyone to still look out for YOU. I’m trying to figure out why you bikers think because you’re in a pack you have the right to clog all other traffic up so you can keep your mob together. Why do you think the law doesn’t apply to you? Now that it’s warmed up we’re getting more and more packs riding around cutting in and out of traffic, tailgating, and running red lights.

Don’t give me any more crap about not watching out for you. Don’t expect it when you have no desire to do your part in allowing me to safely look out for you.

Where are you going that your in such a rush in Saturday morning in SoMD non-the-less. Slooow down. You just might live longer...

I know. :lol: I was saying "seriously? Cager?" As in who says that kind of stuff? :lol:

It was good to see you a couple of weeks ago, you look great! And I love your new ride, too!

:love:

You got some bitter women on here... Cage=4 wheel vehicle...

Who's bitter? I thought the term was freakin hysterical.

I just find some bikers and their sense of self importance a bit tedious. And I'm sorry, you have to admit that the gentleman who threatened to pull out his ruger fit that bill. :lol:

But, I ride everywhere. Beltway. Downtown Baltimore and DC, Ohio, heading to Greensboro soon. Granted, I only get in the mess when I choose but, I'll ride anywhere.

I swear Larry, every time you post about riding all I can envision is William H. Macy in Wild Hogs. :lol: :huggy:

It was good to see you a couple of weeks ago, you look great! And I love your new ride, too!

:love:


What can I say, I'm born to be wild, ditchin the cager life man. :jet:

It was good to see you too. :huggy:

What can I say, I'm born to be wild, ditchin the cager life man. :jet:

It was good to see you too. :huggy:

We should have lunch soon, on a bicycle built for two.

It was good to see you a couple of weeks ago, you look great! And I love your new ride, too!

:love:

Something different....your hair?

Something different....your hair?

That's not me...

That's not me...

Really?

:whistle:


:lol:

Who's bitter? I thought the term was freakin hysterical.

I just find some bikers and their sense of self importance a bit tedious. And I'm sorry, you have to admit that the gentleman who threatened to pull out his ruger fit that bill. :lol:

hysterical = gay? that would be pejorative...

Every sub-culture, group, club, clique, whatever has their own 'slang'... It isn't self-importance...

There is a lot of anger on the roads these days... Definitely gotten worse since I was a kid starting to ride the roads... The guy that said he'd pull his firearm to me is no different than the others who routinely around the DC region who pull guns in a road rage incident... Has nothing to do with scoots... I can admit that if I think you hit me intentionally, I may not be a pleasant man afterwards...

I ride with respect... I give it and I hope to get it back...

Really?

:whistle:


:lol:

I'm afraid you may be having a senior moment, look who I quoted. :lol:


:huggy:

I don't have a problem with bikers. I don't even complain about their loud exhaust systems waking up the entire neighborhood at 3am and them flying down the streets, passing cars in between lanes or any of the stuff some idiots do. They give bikers a bad name but I know many of them ride resposibly, obey traffic laws and what not and I know a lot of bikers do a lot for our military. I even understand why they need loud exhaust systems.

But the people who ride their bikes without regard for the safety of themselves or others do give bikers a bad name.

It's simple to me. I see good, responsible bikers on here complain about others not being respectful. Then you have people like DKW.

If you want those of us in cars (or, in my case, an enormous van) to show you respect, try respecting the laws and not thinking you can do whatever you want because the law gives you "right of way". You have right of way and people need to pay attention, but you do not have the right to: ride at 110 mph, pass in between travel lanes, pass on the shoulder, blow through red lights.

Again, most bikers around here have common sense and there's hardly ever a problem sharing the road with them. But, as Psy said, I would never want the blood of some biker on my hand and splattered all over my vehicle because they failed to respect traffic laws and respect others.

I'm afraid you may be having a senior moment, look who I quoted. :lol:


:huggy:

Me? That's what I thought.

As for the loud exhaust system, it doesn't bother me when it's a bike. It bothers the living piss out of me when people make their cars as loud as they can get them though (a lot of people in Waldorf/St. Charles do this). The loud stereos has surpassed annoyance and is a larger problem for me this year than in years' past.

I swear Larry, every time you post about riding all I can envision is William H. Macy in Wild Hogs. :lol: :huggy:

That's me! Slave to the system finally getting in touch with my inner (honda) Rebel!

As for the loud exhaust system, it doesn't bother me when it's a bike. It bothers the living piss out of me when people make their cars as loud as they can get them though (a lot of people in Waldorf/St. Charles do this). The loud stereos has surpassed annoyance and is a larger problem for me this year than in years' past.

The loud pipes bother me. I live 1/2 mile off of 235. When I have to get up and close the windows because the noise from the overly-loud pipes is drowning out the tv in the room I'm sitting in, and this happens almost nightly in the summer up to 4am, I get pissed. Absolutely no call for pipes that loud. And don't give me the 'it's so cagers can hear me' crap. There is no valid data to support that argument.

The loud pipes bother me. I live 1/2 mile off of 235. When I have to get up and close the windows because the noise from the overly-loud pipes is drowning out the tv in the room I'm sitting in, and this happens almost nightly in the summer up to 4am, I get pissed. Absolutely no call for pipes that loud. And don't give me the 'it's so cagers can hear me' crap. There is no valid data to support that argument.

I have a much bigger problem with loud car speakers here. Being awakened at 3am because of someone's obnoxiously loud rap music or not being able to hear my own TV in my own house through closed windows because of other peoples' rap music pisses me off to no end. I would really like to see police enforce noise laws, but we already know if they do, the African-American community while scream discrimination.

hysterical = gay? that would be pejorative...

Every sub-culture, group, club, clique, whatever has their own 'slang'... It isn't self-importance...

There is a lot of anger on the roads these days... Definitely gotten worse since I was a kid starting to ride the roads... The guy that said he'd pull his firearm to me is no different than the others who routinely around the DC region who pull guns in a road rage incident... Has nothing to do with scoots... I can admit that if I think you hit me intentionally, I may not be a pleasant man afterwards...

I ride with respect... I give it and I hope to get it back...

Gay = Silly, Funny, Absurd etc...

The slang isn't the self importance, blocking intersections and not following the same traffic laws that the rest of follow because they feel it is imperitive to stay together as a pack is self importance.

I don't know how many times you idiots have cut in front of my "cage" like you own the road. It's worse when you all are in groups because god forbid you guys aren't side by side and up each other's tail pipes. And sure, I've had cars cut in front of me, but the difference is, if I get clipped by a car it's going to be just a fender bender, if a bike clips me I'll feel like crap for the rest of my life for severely injuring or killing one of you yahoos.

I don't know how many times you idiots have cut in front of my "cage" like you own the road. It's worse when you all are in groups because god forbid you guys aren't side by side and up each other's tail pipes. And sure, I've had cars cut in front of me, but the difference is, if I get clipped by a car it's going to be just a fender bender, if a bike clips me I'll feel like crap for the rest of my life for severely injuring or killing one of you yahoos.

Yep, and bikers should be aware of that. If you cut me off in a way that I don't have time to react, it's going to end worse for you. Granted, I usually drive with my foot hovering over the brake pedal on busier streets because any time I drive on 301 for a period of 1.2 miles, I'll be chop-blocked at least seven times.

Gay = Silly, Funny, Absurd etc...

The slang isn't the self importance, blocking intersections and not following the same traffic laws that the rest of follow because they feel it is imperitive to stay together as a pack is self importance.

I don't know how many times you idiots have cut in front of my "cage" like you own the road. It's worse when you all are in groups because god forbid you guys aren't side by side and up each other's tail pipes. And sure, I've had cars cut in front of me, but the difference is, if I get clipped by a car it's going to be just a fender bender, if a bike clips me I'll feel like crap for the rest of my life for severely injuring or killing one of you yahoos.

wasn't me! Again... not exclusive to scoots... Saw one of those new tiny fiats this morning dive in front of an 18 wheeler trash hauler at the Lothian roundabout... I was sure I was going to see a pancake... Just as sure the truck driver was going to feel just as bad as you would with a scoot... while he was scrapping the fiat off his tires... truck was lucky he didn't jackknife trying to avoid the twit...

I honestly see very little difference in bad drivers be they in cages, scoots, mopeds, bicycles or boats... While a biker has a lot less metal protection around them, a Fiat vs an 18 wheeler is going to make pretty much the same splat...

wasn't me! Again... not exclusive to scoots... Saw one of those new tiny fiats this morning dive in front of an 18 wheeler trash hauler at the Lothian roundabout... I was sure I was going to see a pancake... Just as sure the truck driver was going to feel just as bad as you would with a scoot... while he was scrapping the fiat off his tires... truck was lucky he didn't jackknife trying to avoid the twit...

I honestly see very little difference in bad drivers be they in cages, scoots, mopeds, bicycles or boats... While a biker has a lot less metal protection around them, a Fiat vs an 18 wheeler is going to make pretty much the same splat...

That does seem to be a pattern. The smaller and more 'nimble' the car is, the more chances the drivers seems to take, the more reactionary the movements become.

Gay = Silly, Funny, Absurd etc...

The slang isn't the self importance, blocking intersections and not following the same traffic laws that the rest of follow because they feel it is imperitive to stay together as a pack is self importance.

I don't know how many times you idiots have cut in front of my "cage" like you own the road. It's worse when you all are in groups because god forbid you guys aren't side by side and up each other's tail pipes. And sure, I've had cars cut in front of me, but the difference is, if I get clipped by a car it's going to be just a fender bender, if a bike clips me I'll feel like crap for the rest of my life for severely injuring or killing one of you yahoos.

Now you've done gone and jumped the refrigerator. :tap:

Most 'rides', plural for a cutsie slang term we, the biker 'community', came up with to describe a ride, another term we made up that describes the activity of...going for a ride...as opposed to the cutsie pie cager slang 'drive', is an event, an activity, involving more than one bike or sled or rail or scoot or...your 'ride'.

Now, on these so called 'rides', be it two or more...riders (the people that go on the rides mounted on their ride) not everyone knows where we are going or how we will get there. There may be a general idea that we are going 'there' or, oft times, 'here' (but NEVER 'here nor there'). The leader just...leads. Everyone else, even if they know where we are going and how, just follows. That's what lone wolf rebel types do on rides, that in addition to all us rugged individualists wearing some variation of the same pirate costume; black leather and blue denim.

Furthermore, quite often, there are members of the group of, shall we say, lesser skill. Going on a ride can be fun and exciting. However, anxiety can set in among the noob set in the group when, in addition to this being a new or newer experience, the concern for being separated may start to creep in. Anxiety. Not good. So, better to keep them together.

Further and even more, if groups get split up, the ones who made the light are obligate to pull over and wait for the rest. These means a whole bunch of bikes off to the side that then need to get back in traffic when the rest catch up. This means more stops and starts which is where the majority of noob bike mishaps happens.

All in all, there would be more accidents and more headaches for cagers to get all pissy about.

And we can't have that!

:evil:

scoots

Every time one of you posts this word, I picture a dog scooting its ass on the carpet.

Every time one of you posts this word, I picture a dog scooting its ass on the carpet.

Sounds like a new drinking game. :lmao:

I have a much bigger problem with loud car speakers here. Being awakened at 3am because of someone's obnoxiously loud rap music or not being able to hear my own TV in my own house through closed windows because of other peoples' rap music pisses me off to no end. I would really like to see police enforce noise laws, but we already know if they do, the African-American community while scream discrimination.

Beg to differ with you- rap is not music- it is unpleasant jive ghetto noise that is an insult to any normal person's eardrums.

Every time one of you posts this word, I picture a dog scooting its ass on the carpet.

Worst cover of ALL time...

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Beg to differ with you- rap is not music- it is unpleasant jive ghetto noise that is an insult to any normal person's eardrums.

I've given this much thought and contemplation; what is rap?

Rap is poetry. The electronic beat and whatever instruments there are, if any, are purely secondary as rap can stand on it's own devoid of anything but the words.

I have hated poetry my entire life. I care not for rock or metal lyrics past a perfunctorty 'Born to be wiiiiiilllllllllllldddddddddddd!!" here and there or a "Aw, sugah, sugah'. The rest is noise complementing the only thing that matters, the music. Which rap does not have. Nor does poetry.

:buddies:

Beg to differ with you- rap is not music- it is unpleasant jive ghetto noise that is an insult to any normal person's eardrums.

I like rap music, when it actually has meaning and isn't just about ####in dem hos, shooting dem #####es that had it coming and eating babies.

I like rap

Fine. All well and good. There is no such thing as rap music. It's rap. Period.

The loud pipes bother me. I live 1/2 mile off of 235. When I have to get up and close the windows because the noise from the overly-loud pipes is drowning out the tv in the room I'm sitting in, and this happens almost nightly in the summer up to 4am, I get pissed. Absolutely no call for pipes that loud. And don't give me the 'it's so cagers can hear me' crap. There is no valid data to support that argument.

I really hate when I'm having a nice, tranquil afternoon at an outdoor venue, then along comes a group of motorcycles with their obnoxious exhaust systems, tearing into my nice, quiet afternoon.

Fine. All well and good. There is no such thing as rap music. It's crap. Period.

:fixed: :biggrin:

I really hate when I'm having a nice, tranquil afternoon at an outdoor venue, then along comes a group of motorcycles with their obnoxious exhaust systems, tearing into my nice, quiet afternoon.

whiner

I like rap music, when it actually has meaning and isn't just about ####in dem hos, shooting dem #####es that had it coming and eating babies.

Find me some rap that has meaning and I'll find you some dog poo worth eating.

Find me some rap that has meaning and I'll find you some dog poo worth eating.

I always enjoyed this 'un;

OGk2qmDmvT8

Fine. All well and good. There is no such thing as rap music. It's rap. Period.

mu·sic/ˈmyoozik/

Noun:

1.The art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.
2.The vocal or instrumental sound produced in this way.


Sounds like rap qualifies as music to me. Whether you like it or not, it's still music. I enjoy it, but I'd rather listen to my music or my TV than have to hear somebody else's 6 trillion watt speaker system. I listen to my music loud, but it's not loud enough that people can hear it a half mile away. Common courtesy stuff.

As for the driving, people are in such a damn hurry that some of these roads are almost undrivable. Like when I put a signal on and everyone decides to slam their gas pedal to block me from turning... why? What's the ####ing point? You are going to have to stop at that red light in 1,000 feet anyways. It takes a fraction of a second. In fact, I had an idiot last week in a 2 door Honda POS who sped up to prevent me from cutting in front of him, so when I hit the brakes to get behind him, he actually jammed the brakes to prevent me from turning. I quit playing his game, slammed the gas, cut him off and went on my merry way. In fact, he actually missed the light (that he ran anyways) trying to play his game.

zWSOxCsAYc0

Every time one of you posts this word, I picture a dog scooting its ass on the carpet.

hmmmm..... Might be you... scoot short for scooter is what I normally come up with... 2nd would be thinking of my kids when they were little before they could crawl... maybe 3rd for the butt-scoot...

Car plows into group of bikersDon't feel so special or take it personally... cars plow into groups of pedestrians, buildings and also run up flag poles too.

zWSOxCsAYc0

That clearly was not an accident.

Find me some rap that has meaning and I'll find you some dog poo worth eating.

Kanye West -- his early years. Yeah, the man's an ####### and a racist, but his music is great. His song "Roses" is great, even though his resentment towards white people is glaring.

I'm behind a slow connection right now so I can't post a YouTube.

Don't feel so special or take it personally... cars plow into groups of pedestrians, buildings and also run up flag poles too.

Jessica? Is that you?

zWSOxCsAYc0

I can't count the times I've wanted to do that. I hate bicyclists.

I can't count the times I've wanted to do that. I hate bicyclists.

I'm one of those bicyclists. But if there are cars on the road, I'll certainly move out of the way so they can get by. When I lived in Carroll County, where some of the main routes are single-lane roads, you'd have bicyclists ride in the middle of the street, four-wide, in rush hour traffic and give zero damn to the fact that they're holding up traffic going their whopping five miles per hour. They gave zero ####, and you can't count how many times I wish it was legal to just drive right through them and drive off.

Don't feel so special or take it personally... cars plow into groups of pedestrians, buildings and also run up flag poles too.

I don't feel special. I gave up group rides some time ago. I'm a rebel among rebels.

:diva:

I really hate when I'm having a nice, tranquil afternoon at an outdoor venue, then along comes a group of motorcycles with their obnoxious exhaust systems, tearing into my nice, quiet afternoon.


ED ZACHARY!!

They go out on their bikes to enjoy the "freedom" the "Wind in their hair" and their connection to the road and nature, the serenity...

And f**K it up for the rest of us.. so we can't.

ED ZACHARY!!

They go out on their bikes to enjoy the "freedom" the "Wind in their hair" and their connection to the road and nature, the serenity...

And f**K it up for the rest of us.. so we can't.

This just occurred to me;

Fat Bob

Street Bob

It's Bob? Are you actually a Harley guy????

The all new, 2013 Harley Davidson It's Bob!

wasn't me! Again... not exclusive to scoots... Saw one of those new tiny fiats this morning dive in front of an 18 wheeler trash hauler at the Lothian roundabout... I was sure I was going to see a pancake... Just as sure the truck driver was going to feel just as bad as you would with a scoot... while he was scrapping the fiat off his tires... truck was lucky he didn't jackknife trying to avoid the twit...

I honestly see very little difference in bad drivers be they in cages, scoots, mopeds, bicycles or boats... While a biker has a lot less metal protection around them, a Fiat vs an 18 wheeler is going to make pretty much the same splat...

100% correct on this one. I've never had a CDL, but used to ride shotgun in commercial trucks. People did some stupid crap in front of us. 36,000 lb doesn't stop, and we weren't even the biggest truck on the road, not by a long shot.

Find me some rap that has meaning and I'll find you some dog poo worth eating.

3ZOy6t1vVtE

I'll pass on the dog poo.

This just occurred to me;

Fat Bob

Street Bob

It's Bob? Are you actually a Harley guy????

The all new, 2013 Harley Davidson It's Bob!

Sponge Bob. He's yellow and lives underwater.

Sponge Bob. He's yellow and lives underwater.

:yay:

3ZOy6t1vVtE

I'll pass on the dog poo.

I think you just did.

:evil:

:yay:

I have a full size poster of that and Patrick in my family room downstairs.

:yay:

Spongebob Spongy Rider Poster (http://www.123posters.com/spongebob9.htm)

Sponge Bob. He's yellow and lives underwater.

:tap:


He lives in a pineapple, pal.



:lol:

I have a full size poster of that and Patrick in my family room downstairs.

:yay:

Spongebob Spongy Rider Poster (http://www.123posters.com/spongebob9.htm)

Why am I not surprised. :lol:

Why am I not surprised. :lol:

Surprised you don't remember seeing it when you picked up the freezer. Kinda hard to miss.... :lol:

I have a full size poster of that and Patrick in my family room downstairs.

:yay:

Spongebob Spongy Rider Poster (http://www.123posters.com/spongebob9.htm):doh:

:doh:

Like Bugs Bunny would say,

"He don't know me very well, do he?"

:lol:

Surprised you don't remember seeing it when you picked up the freezer. Kinda hard to miss.... :lol:

I remember the bloody heat and trying to get it moved about amidst your painting project at the time.

I remember the bloody heat and trying to get it moved about amidst your painting project at the time.

Yeah, it was toasty that day.

Yeah, it was toasty that day.

That whole week!

This just occurred to me;

Fat Bob

Street Bob

It's Bob? Are you actually a Harley guy????

The all new, 2013 Harley Davidson It's Bob!

:dingding:

NOT!!!

:jameo:

I'm one of those bicyclists. But if there are cars on the road, I'll certainly move out of the way so they can get by. When I lived in Carroll County, where some of the main routes are single-lane roads, you'd have bicyclists ride in the middle of the street, four-wide, in rush hour traffic and give zero damn to the fact that they're holding up traffic going their whopping five miles per hour. They gave zero ####, and you can't count how many times I wish it was legal to just drive right through them and drive off.

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