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Asmodeus
06-12-2012, 09:59 AM
Every guy would ride a motorcycle if it wasn't for a woman. Whether it was mom, grandma, aunt, girlfriend, sister, fiancee, woman next door, etc.. etc...

Now... before any women decide to kick my butt for the theory, i recognize there are many women out there that are fine with it... My mom always hated it, my wife loves it... (funny enough, ex-wife hated it... :D)

How many guys you know that say "I want a bike but my xxxx would kill me"???

Not that I believe they'd all stick with it... It obviously ain't for everyone...

RoseRed
06-12-2012, 10:04 AM
And there are plenty of women that ride their own and don't have to depend on some man to take them for a ride.

GWguy
06-12-2012, 10:11 AM
I voluntarily stopped riding when I got married so she wouldn't worry, started riding again as soon as she was gone.

DoWhat
06-12-2012, 10:14 AM
My wife would love it if I got a motorcycle again.

I got great life insurance.

Asmodeus
06-12-2012, 10:37 AM
I voluntarily stopped riding when I got married so she wouldn't worry, started riding again as soon as she was gone.

That's still pretty much in line with the theory... I love my wife, but after 3 days of not being able to ride, I get insufferable... My wife will throw me out of the house to go ride... :whistle:

Larry Gude
06-12-2012, 10:42 AM
And there are plenty of women that ride their own and don't have to depend on some man to take them for a ride.

There is an explosion in the number of women riding their own scoot. It isn't even noteworthy anymore. In fact, whenever we see pairs, more often than note, one is a woman and there is nearly always at least one chick in 3 plus groups. We've seen quite a few gal/gal pairs as well this year. We're even seeing some of them, guy/gal, where she is lead.

Larry Gude
06-12-2012, 10:43 AM
I voluntarily stopped riding when I got married so she wouldn't worry about me riding thereby allowing her more time and room to worry about other things, started riding again as soon as she was gone.

:buddies:

Am I right?

vraiblonde
06-12-2012, 10:51 AM
There is an explosion in the number of women riding their own scoot.

Paging Christy.....

:lmao:

I think it is accurate to say that many men do not ride a motorcycle because some woman, typically a wife, objects.

The reason for this is that we know you. We interact with you in many situations and have a hard time picturing the guy who gets pissed when someone cuts him off in traffic, or will drive around for hours because they don't want to stop and ask for directions, safely operating a motorcycle. We see your impulsive decision-making and occasional lack of common sense. We also know who's going to have to deal with it if you crash and become brain-damaged or a paraplegic.

Women are also more naturally cautious than men, and I don't think it's unhealthy to fear consequences of actions that aren't your own and pay for decisions that you did not make.

GWguy
06-12-2012, 10:58 AM
:buddies:

Am I right?

:lol: Yeah, like figuring out a way to get a divorce..... :lmao:

Asmodeus
06-12-2012, 11:00 AM
Paging Christy.....

:lmao:

I think it is accurate to say that many men do not ride a motorcycle because some woman, typically a wife, objects.

The reason for this is that we know you. We interact with you in many situations and have a hard time picturing the guy who gets pissed when someone cuts him off in traffic, or will drive around for hours because they don't want to stop and ask for directions, safely operating a motorcycle. We see your impulsive decision-making and occasional lack of common sense. We also know who's going to have to deal with it if you crash and become brain-damaged or a paraplegic.

Women are also more naturally cautious than men, and I don't think it's unhealthy to fear consequences of actions that aren't your own and pay for decisions that you did not make.

So in other words it's cause in spite of all that you love us?

:drummer:

Bann
06-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Every guy would ride a motorcycle if it wasn't for a woman. Whether it was mom, grandma, aunt, girlfriend, sister, fiancee, woman next door, etc.. etc...

Now... before any women decide to kick my butt for the theory, i recognize there are many women out there that are fine with it... My mom always hated it, my wife loves it... (funny enough, ex-wife hated it... :D)

How many guys you know that say "I want a bike but my xxxx would kill me"???

Not that I believe they'd all stick with it... It obviously ain't for everyone...

You sound bitter. :coffee:

Asmodeus
06-12-2012, 11:07 AM
You sound bitter. :coffee:


Okay that definitely made me grin... Thanks!

I'm lucky that my dad ignored my mom's wishes when I was little and have been riding forever... lucky that my wife loves it almost as much as I do... Doesn't mean I don't get some dagger looks when I pull out in the middle of a thunderstorm... or when I leave the house at 0530 and it's 4 degrees... Bitter? hell no.. I'm a lucky man!

Bann
06-12-2012, 11:11 AM
Paging Christy.....

:lmao:

I think it is accurate to say that many men do not ride a motorcycle because some woman, typically a wife, objects.

The reason for this is that we know you. We interact with you in many situations and have a hard time picturing the guy who gets pissed when someone cuts him off in traffic, or will drive around for hours because they don't want to stop and ask for directions, safely operating a motorcycle. We see your impulsive decision-making and occasional lack of common sense. We also know who's going to have to deal with it if you crash and become brain-damaged or a paraplegic.

Women are also more naturally cautious than men, and I don't think it's unhealthy to fear consequences of actions that aren't your own and pay for decisions that you did not make. ^This^

vraiblonde
06-12-2012, 11:12 AM
So in other words it's cause in spite of all that you love us?

I was thinking more that we see your emotional and mental limitations more than others do, and even more than you do yourself. It's not a bad thing or a knock. Husbands see their wives' limitations more readily as well, which is why they do not want us using their power tools.

my-thyme
06-12-2012, 11:14 AM
Since getting my license, I can't imagine getting on the back of hubby's bike again!

I was always nervous about riding for my kid's sake, couldn't imagine who would take care of them if I got laid up with an injury. Now that they are grown, I ride as much as I can. If I get laid up now, no big deal.

vraiblonde
06-12-2012, 11:17 AM
I was always nervous about riding for my kid's sake, couldn't imagine who would take care of them if I got laid up with an injury. Now that they are grown, I ride as much as I can. If I get laid up now, no big deal.

This too ^^ A woman's sense of responsibility to her family precludes a lot of the fun things she wants to do that might be even somewhat dangerous. You see women let loose a lot more once the kiddies are grown and gone.

kwillia
06-12-2012, 11:17 AM
I was thinking more that we see your emotional and mental limitations more than others do, and even more than you do yourself. It's not a bad thing or a knock. Husbands see their wives' limitations more readily as well, which is why they do not want us using their power tools.
Me, "Hey, I tried using that auto-drill screwdriver thingy and now the screwhead is stripped...:mad:"

Him, "You can't just put it to the screw head and go full power... you have to use enough pressure and go a slower speed so as not to strip the screw! :doh:"

Me, "The screw must have been made of soft defective metal... besides, I've only asked for that screw to be screwed in for the past two weeks. :cussing:"


:lmao:

RoseRed
06-12-2012, 11:18 AM
This too ^^ A woman's sense of responsibility to her family precludes a lot of the fun things she wants to do that might be even somewhat dangerous. You see women let loose a lot more once the kiddies are grown and gone.

I quit riding when the Bug was born, just for that reason. Now that she's older, I'm happy to hop on the back and go for spin once in awhile.

Asmodeus
06-12-2012, 11:19 AM
This too ^^ A woman's sense of responsibility to her family precludes a lot of the fun things she wants to do that might be even somewhat dangerous. You see women let loose a lot more once the kiddies are grown and gone.

And as a Mom you don't want to see your kid get hurt, so they can't ride either?

kwillia
06-12-2012, 11:23 AM
This too ^^ A woman's sense of responsibility to her family precludes a lot of the fun things she wants to do that might be even somewhat dangerous. You see women let loose a lot more once the kiddies are grown and gone.

:dingding:

I, personally have just turned a huge corner in life now that my youngest has her license, a job, etc.

I'm really starting to relax from always being "on duty" for the first time since 1992.

I still cringe and get all :blahblahblah: though everytime my husband does something that could jeopardize his well-being and therefore our family sanity and security.

mAlice
06-12-2012, 11:26 AM
I rode a little dirt bike when I was a teenager. After losing two friends to motorcycle accidents in high school, I decided that being on a motorcycle was probably not the smartest thing I could do entertain myself.

vraiblonde
06-12-2012, 11:29 AM
And as a Mom you don't want to see your kid get hurt, so they can't ride either?

By "ride" do you mean ride on the back of Dad's bike, or operate their own motorcycle?

Either way, the answer is the same: if we are nervous about Dad's abilities, we sure as hell aren't going to let our child ride with him. And likewise, we know our kids and their limitations, impulsive behavior, lack of attention, etc, so clearly we are not going to let the kid who can't remember to unload a dishwasher ride a motorcycle.

My son is 29 and is now under his wife's jurisdiction. The only time I get involved is when specifically asked to. My daughter is 25 and, Larry will back me up on this, barely able to operate a car, let alone a motorcycle. I would object strenuously if she told me she wanted to get a bike.

Larry Gude
06-12-2012, 11:31 AM
:dingding:

I, personally have just turned a huge corner in life now that my youngest has her license, a job, etc.

I'm really starting to relax from always being "on duty" for the first time since 1992.

I still cringe and get all :blahblahblah: though everytime my husband does something that could jeopardize his well-being and therefore our family sanity and security.

Last time I was at Tomahawk watching MX, this kid, maybe 12-13 or so, blew the huge double on the back of the track and came out of the sky like he fell out of a tree, splat. Landed flat on his back about 10 feet from me. I grabbed his bike (dirt bikes are never scoots) and moved it out of the way right away but, before I'd gone a foot with it this woman comes exploding in hysterics that her little Johnny is hurt. Pure luck she was nearby when he went down. She was FREAKING OUT. It is truly interesting seeing moms that allow their kids to ride MX and actually race. It is dangerous as hell and you WILL get hurt. Not maybe. WILL.

He came to and got up and was, I am sure, fine but, my gawd, she lost it!
Bet she can't wait until some chick comes along and takes him away so she can get a break.

Larry Gude
06-12-2012, 11:35 AM
...barely able to operate a car...

I see your view of her mad skills has improved. Dramatically. I've never once thought of it as actually 'operating' when she is behind the wheel. It's more a vague "Well, they did give her a license and she does have keys..." She is one of the reasons I think there just may be a God or some other sort of intervening spirit out there. No other rational explanation comes to mind.

:lol:

kwillia
06-12-2012, 11:42 AM
I see your view of her mad skills has improved. Dramatically. I've never once thought of it as actually 'operating' when she is behind the wheel. It's more a vague "Well, they did give her a license and she does have keys..." She is one of the reasons I think there just may be a God or some other sort of intervening spirit out there. No other rational explanation comes to mind.

:lol:Is she the one that drove into a cow?

Asmodeus
06-12-2012, 11:43 AM
By "ride" do you mean ride on the back of Dad's bike, or operate their own motorcycle?

Either way, the answer is the same: if we are nervous about Dad's abilities, we sure as hell aren't going to let our child ride with him. And likewise, we know our kids and their limitations, impulsive behavior, lack of attention, etc, so clearly we are not going to let the kid who can't remember to unload a dishwasher ride a motorcycle.

My son is 29 and is now under his wife's jurisdiction. The only time I get involved is when specifically asked to. My daughter is 25 and, Larry will back me up on this, barely able to operate a car, let alone a motorcycle. I would object strenuously if she told me she wanted to get a bike.

Their own... My youngest (now 17) has a TTR50 she's had for many years... She doesn't have a street bike... Just got her driver's license earlier this year (my law, no scoot license without spending a year on the streets as a legal cage driver).. My son (20) has a HD Vrod he rides all over England... My eldest (22) is a wife and mommy now... I think her non-riding now is more to do with economics than safety, but I could be wrong... So far I haven't gotten in trouble for the HD tricycles for the grandkids...

My ex pretty much had all those objections as I taught each child, at their request, the basics...

So far I'd say it is still a pretty valid theory here... With probably a differentiation between women who grew up in bike 'friendly' homes vs not?

I have heard mAlice story told many times over the years... Usually from the woman that is saying no to a scoot in the garage...

Larry Gude
06-12-2012, 11:45 AM
Is she the one that drove into a cow?

No. That was the one that drives good-er.

:jameo:

kwillia
06-13-2012, 09:57 AM
Timely find...:coffee:

DEAR ABBY: My husband, "Chris," wanted a motorcycle for seven years. Last year I finally gave in, with the stipulation that he take a safety course and buy a good helmet and riding gear.


Two months later, Chris was in a crash and suffered several broken bones and a concussion. The hospital bill was more than $60,000. His accident was a reality check for me. Ever since, I have been petrified of losing him. Every time Chris rides I worry, pray and often cry until he returns or calls to say he's OK.


I have begged him to get rid of the bike. The stress is taking a toll on me physically and emotionally and creating tension between us. I'm afraid it would be selfish to insist he get rid of something he loves; on the other hand, I feel Chris is selfish for not taking my feelings into consideration. I'm torn between wanting him safe and wanting him to be happy. What should I do? -- STRESSED OUT IN PHILLY


DEAR STRESSED OUT: If his close call wasn't enough to convince your husband to rethink his motorcycle riding, and your begging and obvious distress haven't dissuaded him, accept that short of hog-tying Chris, you can't stop him from riding.


You can, however, protect yourself from some of the fallout that might result from another accident. Tell Chris that if his heart is set on riding, you want him to buy a life insurance policy and sign an organ donor card, because healthy young men on motorcycles are the most desired organ donors -- a fact shared with me by a former executive director of an organ donation registry. That way you will be provided for in case of a tragedy -- and it will ensure that part of him lives on when he is removed from life support.


It's also important that you find ways to lessen your stress. So start making time for activities you can enjoy while you're on your own. It'll give you less time to worry and something else on which to concentrate.

Asmodeus
06-13-2012, 10:25 AM
My brother-in-law (who rides) is an EMT in Virginia... At work they call them 'donor-cycles'... Yes I have insurance and yes my license says harvest the organs...

Now why didn't Abby recommend she get involved with the bike? One of the biggest failures in my first marriage was she wouldn't ride with me after she got her driver's license (at 30!)...

vraiblonde
06-13-2012, 10:29 AM
The hospital bill was more than $60,000.
I'd have taken every penny of that out of his ass.


Now why didn't Abby recommend she get involved with the bike? One of the biggest failures in my first marriage was she wouldn't ride with me after she got her driver's license (at 30!)...

Your motorcycle is so important to you that your marriage failed because she wouldn't ride with you? Are you serious?

RoseRed
06-13-2012, 10:37 AM
One of the biggest failures in my first marriage was she wouldn't ride with me after she got her driver's license (at 30!)...

Seriously!?! Priorities a bit askew?

kwillia
06-13-2012, 10:38 AM
Now why didn't Abby recommend she get involved with the bike? One of the biggest failures in my first marriage was she wouldn't ride with me after she got her driver's license (at 30!)...
You fully expected her to "respect" your choice to ride, yet you couldn't "respect" her choice to not ride? Really?

Asmodeus
06-13-2012, 11:19 AM
I'd have taken every penny of that out of his ass.



Your motorcycle is so important to you that your marriage failed because she wouldn't ride with you? Are you serious?

Sincerely (but there were other issues as well)...

It isn't a car... It is a way of life... Whether it is charity rides, organized 'fun' rides, funeral rides, rides halfway (or all the way) across the country or just getting to and from work every day...

There are 'weekend' riders who just ride for the heck of it on weekends and nice days... They put their bikes away if it rains or when the cold weather starts... That's not me nor the guys I ride with...

Would you stay with someone who flat out despises such a large portion of your being?

Asmodeus
06-13-2012, 11:21 AM
You fully expected her to "respect" your choice to ride, yet you couldn't "respect" her choice to not ride? Really?


lol... how much time you think we spent together after that decision? Not like anyone has ever been blindsided by me hopping on a bike... I was most probably on one when they met me...

vraiblonde
06-13-2012, 12:53 PM
Sincerely (but there were other issues as well)...

It isn't a car... It is a way of life... Whether it is charity rides, organized 'fun' rides, funeral rides, rides halfway (or all the way) across the country or just getting to and from work every day...

There are 'weekend' riders who just ride for the heck of it on weekends and nice days... They put their bikes away if it rains or when the cold weather starts... That's not me nor the guys I ride with...

Would you stay with someone who flat out despises such a large portion of your being?

How did you all manage to date and even get to marriage if you're on your motorcycle all the time and she doesn't ride?

RoseRed
06-13-2012, 01:06 PM
How did you all manage to date and even get to marriage if you're on your motorcycle all the time and she doesn't ride?

I wonder if he changed his lifestyle after the marriage and disregarded her feelings on the matter altogether. If so, sounds pretty insensitive on his part.

Asmodeus
06-13-2012, 02:10 PM
How did you all manage to date and even get to marriage if you're on your motorcycle all the time and she doesn't ride?

She didn't have a driver's license when I met her... We went everywhere on the bike, including to work each day... She never said a word about 'despising' it... My job caused me to be TDY a lot so I made her get her driver's license and bought a truck so she'd have transport while I was on the road...

Day she passed her license test she never got back on... Next morning when it was time to leave for work (we worked in the same building), she said, "I'm taking the truck, I hate motorcycles"....

But enough hijack! lol... So far theory validated!

RoseRed
06-13-2012, 02:13 PM
She didn't have a driver's license when I met her... We went everywhere on the bike, including to work each day... She never said a word about 'despising' it... My job caused me to be TDY a lot so I made her get her driver's license and bought a truck so she'd have transport while I was on the road...

Day she passed her license test she never got back on... Next morning when it was time to leave for work (we worked in the same building), she said, "I'm taking the truck, I hate motorcycles"....

But enough hijack! lol... So far theory validated!

I bet that did wonders for her wardrobe.

Asmodeus
06-13-2012, 02:16 PM
I bet that did wonders for her wardrobe.

LOL!

You mean her BDUs?

Moved_south
06-13-2012, 03:03 PM
My wife would love it if I got a motorcycle again.

I got great life insurance.

Thats what I told my husband.... I don't want to be sad AND poor.... :buddies:

vraiblonde
06-13-2012, 03:39 PM
She didn't have a driver's license when I met her... We went everywhere on the bike, including to work each day... She never said a word about 'despising' it... My job caused me to be TDY a lot so I made her get her driver's license and bought a truck so she'd have transport while I was on the road...

Day she passed her license test she never got back on... Next morning when it was time to leave for work (we worked in the same building), she said, "I'm taking the truck, I hate motorcycles"....

But enough hijack! lol... So far theory validated!

Once you go cager, you never go back.

itsbob
06-13-2012, 04:42 PM
Sincerely (but there were other issues as well)...

It isn't a car... It is a way of life... Whether it is charity rides, organized 'fun' rides, funeral rides, rides halfway (or all the way) across the country or just getting to and from work every day...

There are 'weekend' riders who just ride for the heck of it on weekends and nice days... They put their bikes away if it rains or when the cold weather starts... That's not me nor the guys I ride with...

Would you stay with someone who flat out despises such a large portion of your being?

:bs: :bs: :bs:

If your motorcycle is your way of life..

You need to DX your current life and get a new one..

How friggin shallow can you make bikers out to be, really?

It's a "large part of your being!??"

What a tard.

And as a motorcyclist (apparenlty I can't be a "biker" as I'm not so retarded that it is the center of my universe) I say this in the kindest and most sincere way I possible could..

Asmodeus
06-14-2012, 07:13 AM
:bs: :bs: :bs:

If your motorcycle is your way of life..

You need to DX your current life and get a new one..

How friggin shallow can you make bikers out to be, really?

It's a "large part of your being!??"

What a tard.

And as a motorcyclist (apparenlty I can't be a "biker" as I'm not so retarded that it is the center of my universe) I say this in the kindest and most sincere way I possible could..

Wow dude... You seem to have some serious issues of your own... Who are you to judge anyone's life? WTF do you know other than what you just read? Do you know me? lol... That's some extremely funny ####...

I'll up your tard for your sanctimonious bastage attitude... Shallow? Was the woman on here that was all about horses shallow because that's how she spent her time?

Just wow... You sound like a metric sort... maybe next time you're in Motovations, you'll ask Dan or George if I'm shallow or a tard...

Must be awesome to be so wonderful... With all due respect...

ItalianScallion
06-14-2012, 05:44 PM
Once you go cager, you never go back.
I do both so am I "bi"?

itsbob
06-14-2012, 06:50 PM
Must be awesome to be so wonderful... With all due respect...

It is, but sadly probably a feeling you'll never know.

See when I use a term like "it is my life"if be referring to my wife, kids or my entire family,, not a car, not my bike, not even my tractor...

You've fallen hook line and sinker for (I assume) the Harley 'it's a way of life', sucker.

Asmodeus
06-15-2012, 05:53 AM
It is, but sadly probably a feeling you'll never know.

See when I use a term like "it is my life"if be referring to my wife, kids or my entire family,, not a car, not my bike, not even my tractor...

You've fallen hook line and sinker for (I assume) the Harley 'it's a way of life', sucker.


I don't chest thump on the internet... Too easy to run your mouth about crap you know nothing of... and twist words to match your own lack of info... "it is a way of life", "it is a large part"... vs. "exclusive"... Suffice it to say, my life is great... The only things that would make me happier would be to get the hell out of blue state MD and have the Obamamites out of my government and paycheck... Now that the last child is starting college, we are one step closer to #1!

Dude when you run your mouth, you really put your foot in it... I've been riding since I was 5, legally on the road since 15... all metrics until 2007... and I just traded in my Honda Valkyrie Interstate... Whatever you do, don't admit it's your own prejudices that has you posting this ridiculous stuff... lol...

Terrid76
06-21-2012, 10:44 AM
Okay, I bought my husband his first bike for our anniversary a lot of years ago. It wasn't exactly what he wanted but it was what I wanted him to ride. Smallest street bike Honda made....a 125. He loved it, he wreaked it and we fixed it. Had that thing for almost 20 years before the kids traded it for something else. And, I learned to ride on that bike. For those that know how I ride, yes, I've been riding almost 30 years and yes, I like to putz. I know I never rode that bike faster than 35 mph becaues that was the speed limit where I was driving it.

Bought my husband his next bike.....a much bigger one when I was deployed to Kuwait in 2004. And when someone ran it over and killed it (not him), I told him to buy whatever he wanted. Still, paying on that one.

Now, I have no problems with him riding his bike. He doesn't have a car so if he wants to get to work he had better ride. However, neither of us like me riding on his bike. I do but we seem to disagree more when I do.

I do have my own bike (with training wheels) that I actually do putz around on. (I even have made it up to 55 but I'm not riding down 235 with the idiots any time soon.) I am a fair weather, no rain rider and I have no problem saying that.

I cosigned for my youngest son to get his first bike when he was 19. He just bought his second bike and dad cosigned. Next month, they are planning on riding with HOG to TN for Tale of the Dragon. They are going to have a blast and have some great father/son time. This is good stuff.

I do know Asmodeus and I can tell you that he is far from shallow. He is a very dedicated caring individual. I wish there were more people out there like him.


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