Tonight I was going northbound on 235 in the Hollywood area. There were several cars in each lane when a guy on a motorcycle came up between us on the yellow line. We were approaching a light, but were probably still going around 40 mph at the time. I could not believe it! After reading many of the posts on this forum about being mindful of motorcycles, I would like to think that I am more cautious when pulling out on a road to make sure I don't pull into the path of a bike. But this guy should also be more cautious. What if I had not heard him/did not realize he was driving between me and the car to my right and I chose to drive on the right side of my lane, up to the line??? He would have been toast. When i told someone about this, they said that they had heard that this was actually legal. If it is, it is the stupidest law I have ever heard of.

Tonight I was going northbound on 235 in the Hollywood area. There were several cars in each lane when a guy on a motorcycle came up between us on the yellow line. We were approaching a light, but were probably still going around 40 mph at the time. I could not believe it! After reading many of the posts on this forum about being mindful of motorcycles, I would like to think that I am more cautious when pulling out on a road to make sure I don't pull into the path of a bike. But this guy should also be more cautious. What if I had not heard him/did not realize he was driving between me and the car to my right and I chose to drive on the right side of my lane, up to the line??? He would have been toast. When i told someone about this, they said that they had heard that this was actually legal. If it is, it is the stupidest law I have ever heard of.

That doesn't make sense, does it? I would find it unnerving to have a motorcycle come up between me and a vehicle in the other lane. This concerns me because my son just purchased a motorcycle on Saturday. Cycles and cars/trucks should be able to share the road together safely.

Tonight I was going northbound on 235 in the Hollywood area. There were several cars in each lane when a guy on a motorcycle came up between us on the yellow line. We were approaching a light, but were probably still going around 40 mph at the time. I could not believe it! After reading many of the posts on this forum about being mindful of motorcycles, I would like to think that I am more cautious when pulling out on a road to make sure I don't pull into the path of a bike. But this guy should also be more cautious. What if I had not heard him/did not realize he was driving between me and the car to my right and I chose to drive on the right side of my lane, up to the line??? He would have been toast. When i told someone about this, they said that they had heard that this was actually legal. If it is, it is the stupidest law I have ever heard of.

Not legal in MD anyway. Used to be in CA, but I don't know now.

Tonight I was going northbound on 235 in the Hollywood area. There were several cars in each lane when a guy on a motorcycle came up between us on the yellow line. We were approaching a light, but were probably still going around 40 mph at the time. I could not believe it! After reading many of the posts on this forum about being mindful of motorcycles, I would like to think that I am more cautious when pulling out on a road to make sure I don't pull into the path of a bike. But this guy should also be more cautious. What if I had not heard him/did not realize he was driving between me and the car to my right and I chose to drive on the right side of my lane, up to the line??? He would have been toast. When i told someone about this, they said that they had heard that this was actually legal. If it is, it is the stupidest law I have ever heard of.

Was it this guy?

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Not legal in CA anymore either. I am pretty sure it's not legal anywhere in the States. And stupid besides. WTH would you trust your safety to drivers?

Not legal in CA anymore either. I am pretty sure it's not legal anywhere in the States. And stupid besides. WTH would you trust your safety to drivers?:yeahthat: I can't find anywhere that they changed the law in CA, but lane splitting is illegal in Md. Lane sharing is legal (two motorcycles riding side by side in the same lane).

:yeahthat: I can't find anywhere that they changed the law in CA, but lane splitting is illegal in Md. Lane sharing is legal (two motorcycles riding side by side in the same lane).

Not saying they haven't made it illegal, but I saw a few people doing it a couple of weeks ago in Cali..

Not saying they haven't made it illegal, but I saw a few people doing it a couple of weeks ago in Cali..

I used to do it out there, but only when there were a few cars stopped at a light.

I ride...SAFELY and obey all traffic laws. I am more cautious on my bike than in my car but idiots like this guy give us a bad rap. This is why cars are tailgating me and squeezing me out of my lane because they think we're all azzholes like that guy. It makes the roads less safe for the rest of us bikers. SMH.....

I ride...SAFELY and obey all traffic laws. I am more cautious on my bike than in my car but idiots like this guy give us a bad rap. This is why cars are tailgating me and squeezing me out of my lane because they think we're all azzholes like that guy. It makes the roads less safe for the rest of us bikers. SMH.....

You can't afford to let cars tailgate you. A rear-ender is a fender bender for them and a trip to the hospital for you. Or worse. I am NOT advocating zooming between cars. I am advocate and aggressive self defense where you use your advantages, acceleration, maneuverability and braking to protect yourself from dangers. Separate yourself, create space.

Rely on your fellow mans concern for your well being on a bike as little as possible. You can't afford it.

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You can't afford to let cars tailgate you. A rear-ender is a fender bender for them and a trip to the hospital for you. Or worse. I am NOT advocating zooming between cars. I am advocate and aggressive self defense where you use your advantages, acceleration, maneuverability and braking to protect yourself from dangers. Separate yourself, create space.

Rely on your fellow mans concern for your well being on a bike as little as possible. You can't afford it.

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Well Stated! :buddies:

Sorry all, I was wrong on the CA thing.

Yep they still do it in CA. Was out there in January watching the crazy idiots do it.

Yep they still do it in CA. Was out there in January watching the crazy idiots do it.All someone has to do is open their car door for some reason and that's all.

I see this once a week. I drive from Mechanicsville to Lexington Park M-F.

All someone has to do is open their car door for some reason and that's all.

Sport Biker rider I worked with on Bolling years ago, came in one morning all ticked off... He'd lane split in Northern Virginia because the traffic was of course at a halt... someone in a Civic actually threw their door open when they saw him coming... He was livid... I told him not only was it illegal, he was a freakin self-important idiot... Even when I ride in California, I don't lane split... cell phones, coffee, donuts, smoking, steering with their knees? No thanks... Just because you can get through that gap doesn't mean you should!

You can't afford to let cars tailgate you. A rear-ender is a fender bender for them and a trip to the hospital for you. Or worse. I am NOT advocating zooming between cars. I am advocate and aggressive self defense where you use your advantages, acceleration, maneuverability and braking to protect yourself from dangers. Separate yourself, create space.

Rely on your fellow mans concern for your well being on a bike as little as possible. You can't afford it.

:buddies:In light of this post and many others of recent... I've come to the conclusion you've fallen and bumped your head one too many times.

Sport Biker rider I worked with on Bolling years ago, came in one morning all ticked off... He'd lane split in Northern Virginia because the traffic was of course at a halt... someone in a Civic actually threw their door open when they saw him coming... He was livid... I told him not only was it illegal, he was a freakin self-important idiot... Even when I ride in California, I don't lane split... cell phones, coffee, donuts, smoking, steering with their knees? No thanks... Just because you can get through that gap doesn't mean you should!

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I ride...SAFELY and obey all traffic laws. I am more cautious on my bike than in my car but idiots like this guy give us a bad rap. This is why cars are tailgating me and squeezing me out of my lane because they think we're all azzholes like that guy. It makes the roads less safe for the rest of us bikers. SMH.....

I don't understand why drivers treat you that way. I guess they don't realize that they are the a-holes. I don't get that mentality. I leave more than ample room between my car and the bike(s) ahead of me. It is your road (cyclers), too. I always think when the biker is looking in his rearview, he appreciates the space I give him/her. Now, that my son has a cycle, I hope others will look out for him. My hub is a runner, and runs on Rt. 4 alot, I always tell him that worries me. He actually had a woman in a van, he feels deliberately push him into the weeds/trees while running on one of our neighborhood roads. He couldn't believe he had to jump to avoid her. He was running towards her and could see that she was staring right at him. The road he was on is not even heavily traveled. Why do people play such deadly games with their vehicles?

All someone has to do is open their car door for some reason and that's all.

You just have to be ready for it. As in don't be going 50 mph faster than the cars you are passing.

All someone has to do is open their car door for some reason and that's all.

and they would be guilty of at least assault and liable for all damages incurred.

In light of this post and many others of recent... I've come to the conclusion you've fallen and bumped your head one too many times.

What the heck is wrong with THAT post, huh???? :tap:

:neener:

You can't afford to let cars tailgate you. A rear-ender is a fender bender for them and a trip to the hospital for you. Or worse. I am NOT advocating zooming between cars. I am advocate and aggressive self defense where you use your advantages, acceleration, maneuverability and braking to protect yourself from dangers. Separate yourself, create space.

Rely on your fellow mans concern for your well being on a bike as little as possible. You can't afford it.

:buddies:

Yeah, in a moment of stupidity I did a brake check on a car that was tailgating me on Rte 4.. and as SOON as I did it I said to myself.. .. "MORON, WTF are you thinking!??"

And as you well know, I generally don't lolly-gag in the left lane..

and they would be guilty of at least assault and liable for all damages incurred.

If you can prove that they knew you were coming, and didn't just open the door to dump a coffee (folks who do this in parking spots should be fed to piranhas one limb at a time, and dont detach the limbs first) or spit, whatever. Barring intent, it's gonna be hard getting a dime.

I will admit to the occasional brake check, but do have a steel beam backing up my bumper.

If you can prove that they knew you were coming, and didn't just open the door to dump a coffee (folks who do this in parking spots should be fed to piranhas one limb at a time, and dont detach the limbs first) or spit, whatever. Barring intent, it's gonna be hard getting a dime.

I will admit to the occasional brake check, but do have a steel beam backing up my bumper.

A towing receiver or a demolition derby modification?

Mopar made a very nice tow rig for the Charger, the reciever inserts on a vertical axis, so when not installed, nothing hangs below the bumper.....but up inside, its a 2 inch beam curved to match the contours of the plastic bumper cover.... when i got rear ended a couple years back (lady on phone going 35 or better in the rain hit and pushed a minivan into me as I was stopped to enter my driveway) the only mark on my car was imprints of his plate screw heads in the plastic:)

and they would be guilty of at least assault and liable for all damages incurred.

Even if you can prove all that stuff - and get money out of the other driver - it still won't help you heal any faster.

Mopar made a very nice tow rig for the Charger, the reciever inserts on a vertical axis, so when not installed, nothing hangs below the bumper.....but up inside, its a 2 inch beam curved to match the contours of the plastic bumper cover.... when i got rear ended a couple years back (lady on phone going 35 or better in the rain hit and pushed a minivan into me as I was stopped to enter my driveway) the only mark on my car was imprints of his plate screw heads in the plastic:)

That is pretty cool looking, I would add that to my Jetta if such were available.

Even if you can prove all that stuff - and get money out of the other driver - it still won't help you heal any faster.

:smartman:

That is pretty cool looking, I would add that to my Jetta if such were available.

Oh, but the looks from the purists when they see a utility trailer hooked to the back of an SRT:) You would thing I had smeared poop all over the Mona Lisa:killingme

Yeah, in a moment of stupidity I did a brake check on a car that was tailgating me on Rte 4.. and as SOON as I did it I said to myself.. .. "MORON, WTF are you thinking!??"

And as you well know, I generally don't lolly-gag in the left lane..

Oh, come now, Robert. I's be quite shocked if you devoted an entire minute to being stupid whilst conveying on yon'boxer. :lol:

I try to keep it down to however long it takes the impulse to get to my hands and back to my brain. "IDIOT!!!" I mean, if I can lose it for a second, so can they and they WILL win the war of the morons! :lol:

You just have to be ready for it. As in don't be going 50 mph faster than the cars you are passing.

Like may of us, I've seen people on "crotch rockets" blow by traffic flow like it was sitting still.

Like may of us, I've seen people on "crotch rockets" blow by traffic flow like it was sitting still.

To them they probably are, rude awakening some day, I think. I haven't seen many weaving through traffic, but I am sure they do.

Oh, but the looks from the purists when they see a utility trailer hooked to the back of an SRT:) You would thing I had smeared poop all over the Mona Lisa:killingme

There is a SmartCar at work with a little hitch on it. Cracks me up. Why not though? I towed a boat up to Deep Creek lake behind a 85 LTD. Class 2 bumper hitch.

There is a SmartCar at work with a little hitch on it. Cracks me up. Why not though? I towed a boat up to Deep Creek lake behind a 85 LTD. Class 2 bumper hitch.
I've seen bikes tow trailers, and a video on here of one being used as a tow truck for metro areas.

There is a SmartCar at work with a little hitch on it. Cracks me up. Why not though? I towed a boat up to Deep Creek lake behind a 85 LTD. Class 2 bumper hitch.

I mean, a small aluminum framed trailer with a kayak, or a bike carrier with two bikes, no problem. BTW< keep an eye out for the coolest little trailer ever, just found it, but it's so cool it deserves it's own thread......

:yeahthat: I can't find anywhere that they changed the law in CA, but lane splitting is illegal in Md. Lane sharing is legal (two motorcycles riding side by side in the same lane).

The last time I checked, lane sharing as you call it, is illegal in Md.
And very dangerous.

Even if you can prove all that stuff - and get money out of the other driver - it still won't help you heal any faster.

Where does the bike go when it hits the open door?






:gossip: in the car

The last time I checked, lane sharing as you call it, is illegal in Md.
And very dangerous.

It is legal in Maryland. Two bikes one lane side by side.

I ride...SAFELY and obey all traffic laws. I am more cautious on my bike than in my car but idiots like this guy give us a bad rap. This is why cars are tailgating me and squeezing me out of my lane because they think we're all azzholes like that guy. It makes the roads less safe for the rest of us bikers. SMH.....

My thoughts exactly...

I mean, a small aluminum framed trailer with a kayak, or a bike carrier with two bikes, no problem. BTW< keep an eye out for the coolest little trailer ever, just found it, but it's so cool it deserves it's own thread......


http://forums.somd.com/ride/249092-very-cool-but-pricey-trailer.html#post4849310

I've seen bikes tow trailers, and a video on here of one being used as a tow truck for metro areas.

So have I. I don't find that as amusing as the smart car for some reason.

:yeahthat: I can't find anywhere that they changed the law in CA, but lane splitting is illegal in Md. Lane sharing is legal (two motorcycles riding side by side in the same lane).

You are correct that Lane Sharing is legal in Maryland see - Section 21-1303 - Operating on laned roadways. :: 2010 Maryland Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia (http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/transportation/title-21/subtitle-13/21-1303/)

2010 Maryland Code
TRANSPORTATION
TITLE 21 - VEHICLE LAWS - RULES OF THE ROAD
Subtitle 13 - Operation of Motorcycles
Section 21-1303 - Operating on laned roadways.

"(d) Driving between lanes of traffic prohibited.- A person may not operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.

(e) Motorcycles not to be driven more than two abreast.- Motorcycles may not be operated more than two abreast in a single lane. "

How ever during the licensing training MD riders must use the given MVA Handbook and in it, it states "Don't Pair Up - Never operate directly alongside another rider"

See Page 32 of this Handbook http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Resources/DL-001.pdf

So yes it IS legal, however it is NOT recommended!

There is a SmartCar at work with a little hitch on it. Cracks me up. Why not though? I towed a boat up to Deep Creek lake behind a 85 LTD. Class 2 bumper hitch.

:shrug: I used to tow a 16 foot wood boat with a 40 HP Johnson (back when a 40 horse was HUGE...) with a '78 Subaru BRAT. 1.5L motor, stick shift. Great little car....

There is a SmartCar at work with a little hitch on it. Cracks me up. Why not though? I towed a boat up to Deep Creek lake behind a 85 LTD. Class 2 bumper hitch.

I see nothing noteworthy in towing a boat with an aircraft carrier.


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