Obama asserts executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/20/holder-asks-obama-to-assert-executive-privilege-over-fast-and-furious-documents/)

I'd say I'm shocked, but I'd be lying. If there is any doubt left as to Romney being the lesser of two evils... let it be lifted now. Obama choses to be a dictator rather than the designed one branch of three.

Could it be that the documents show the "The One" knew about this the whole time? Nah, he said he didn't know so he must not have known, I mean if you can't trust the president..................

How is it G.W. Bush lost several Attorney Generals over nitpicking yet Holder lives on?

On Tuesday evening, Issa gave him one final chance to provide the documents before the 10 a.m. scheduled vote to hold Holder in contempt.
Holder again did not provide the documents to Congress.
Read more: Obama asserts executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/20/holder-asks-obama-to-assert-executive-privilege-over-fast-and-furious-documents/#ixzz1yLWnEJaz)As a member of Congress, I treat assertions of executive privilege very seriously, and I believe they should be used only sparingly. In this case, it seems clear that the administration was forced into this position by the committee’s unreasonable insistence on pressing forward with contempt despite the attorney general’s good faith offer.”
Read more: Obama asserts executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/20/holder-asks-obama-to-assert-executive-privilege-over-fast-and-furious-documents/#ixzz1yLWwG2uM)So Issa gives Holder a final chance to provide the documents and of course, Holder did not. Where was the administration forced into the position of asserting executive privilege? Seems pretty clear Obama is protecting his buddy Holder. Hold Holder in contempt.

What is the upside to Obama in doing this? How is this not a liability to him?

He'll keep someone on as long as they are good for his campaign, but as soon as they are a liability they are done. Since he's obviously standing by Holder, there must be a way that they are planning to use this to make something posistive.

The white house can only exercise executive privilige for documents that directly involve them.

Looks like Obammy had a plan to send guns to Mexico

Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't it during Nixon's first term that Watergate first came up? And then it all got really ramped up during his second term causing his resignation?

Could it be that Congress has pussyfooted with this in anticipation of Obama taking a second term, whereas Congress could then proceed a lot more viciously forcing his resignation over serving time?

If what APS is saying is correct, that Obama could only invoke executive priviledge to protect himself, then hasn't the President just opened himself up to being investigated?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't it during Nixon's first term that Watergate first came up? And then it all got really ramped up during his second term causing his resignation?

Could it be that Congress has pussyfooted with this in anticipation of Obama taking a second term, whereas Congress could then proceed a lot more viciously forcing his resignation over serving time?

If what APS is saying is correct, that Obama could only invoke executive priviledge to protect himself, then hasn't the President just opened himself up to being investigated?I was thinking the same thing. He's protecting his buddy Holder, and he's protecting himself.

The white house can only exercise executive privilige for documents that directly involve them.

Looks like Obammy had a plan to send guns to Mexico

I'm reading Holder's letter to Obama now (direct link to it from the link below) and that is EXACTLY my understanding as to why Holder has asked for it and why Obama did it.

Obama asserts executive privilege on Fast and Furious documents - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/20/politics/holder-contempt/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Oh my! Look at the picture DRUDGE REPORT 2012® (http://www.drudgereport.com) has just put up! :roflmao:

BREAKING: Obama WH Grants Executive Privilege on Fast & Furious Documents (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/20/wh-grants-holders-FF-docs-exec-priv)


Fox News is reporting that the White House has approved AG Eric Holder's request to protect Fast and Furious documents under executive privilege.

Holder has refused to turn over specific documents to House Oversight Committee Chairman Issa, despite a deadlines and a looming vote to hold him in contempt. The contempt hearing is expected to proceed as scheduled.

More information will be posted as it becomes available.\




So Barry Soweto implements a program of illegally selling guns to criminals, to prove ipsofacto we need more gun control - because it is so easy for criminals to purchase guns .....


.... and Only Conservatives and CBS say anything


and now he claims executive priviledge to cover it all up

Awesome - cover ups always bring the guilty down -[well Bill C did get away with numerous murders]

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Obama asserts executive privilege over ‘Fast and Furious’ documents (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/20/obama-asserts-executive-privilege-over-ff-docs/)




Mr. Boehner’s press secretary, Brendan Buck, said that until now “everyone believed that the decisions regarding Fast and Furious were confined to the Department of Justice. The White House decision to invoke executive privilege implies that White House officials were either involved in the Fast and Furious operation or the cover-up that followed.

“The administration has always insisted that wasn’t the case. Were they lying, or are they now bending the law to hide the truth?” he asked.

“This is a very sad day for the United States of America,” said Rep. John L. Mica, Florida Republican, concerning the president’s assertion of executive privilege. “There is no way this committee is not entitled to these documents.”

When I was in law school I wrote a paper on the States Secret Privilege (I graduated from law school when G.W. Bush was President and the issue mostly implicated at that time by the Privilege was the Bush's administration withholding information about their data mining operations. As such I imagine a lot of people's view about the Privilege have done a 180. Probably most Democrats who at time were opining that the Privilege should be interpreted very narrowly and now saying it should be interpreted broadly and Republicans asserting a broad interpretation or now advocating a narrow interpretation. I think in some ways there is a tendency for all President's to assert the Privilege broadly. I thought George W. Bush used the privilege fairly aggressively in trying to hide the details of intelligence operations from the public and Obama may be doing the same here. It is so easy for President's to subconsciously be motivated by self interest.

In George Bush's case, major telecommunication companies like AT&T were assisting the government in their data mining operations. Data mining basically is a machine redflags certain communications for a real person's review if that communication meets certain parameters. Some of the parameters were the place of origin of the communication for example all communications for Saudi Arabia may be red flagged. Other parameters may be the use of certain words that could be used innocently. Anyway, people sued the government to find out if their personal communications had been redflagged. This could have been embarrassing political for Bush as it could have made clear that a lot of innocent communications were being reviewed by the government in their data mining operation, so the administration refused the acknowledge whether any communication had been red flagged or reviewed at all saying to do so would help the terrorists figure out what parameters were being used for the government. In reality that was somewhat plausible, but it was also un-deniable that this position probably prevented the administration from getting bad press.

I am sure Obama woudl argue that the requested documents have details about current operations that they do not want the Mexican gangs to know. At the same time, it may be very politically beneficial not to release these documents for Obama.

Thus I think President's, whether Republican or Democrats, will always have an instinct to aggressively use the Privilege as it will constantly be in their political interest to do so.

Thus I think President's, whether Republican or Democrats, will always have an instinct to aggressively use the Privilege as it will constantly be in their political interest to do so.




wouldn't it be nice it Presidents did NOT try to subvert the system ....

Clinton - whitewater / rose law firm billing records
Bush - Collusion between Ma Bell and the NSA
Obama - illegal gun running operation to prove we need stricter gun laws

wouldn't it be nice it Presidents did NOT try to subvert the system ....

Clinton - whitewater / rose law firm billing records
Bush - Collusion between Ma Bell and the NSA
Obama - illegal gun running operation to prove we need stricter gun laws
If this idiot gets another term, be prepared, he will try to get rid of the Second Amendment. He didn't do much about guns in his first term, but the second term....the brakes will be off.

If this idiot gets another term, be prepared, he will try to get rid of the Second Amendment. He didn't do much about guns in his first term, but the second term....the brakes will be off.

Romney isn't exactly pro-gun either.