Phoenix boy, 14, shoots armed intruder while watching three younger siblings (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/23/phoenix-boy-14-shoots-armed-intruder-while-watching-three-younger-siblings/)


A 14-year-old Phoenix boy shot an intruder who broke into his home while brandishing a gun as the teenager watched his three younger siblings, police said.

The teen and his brothers and sisters were at home alone at their residence at 55th Avenue and Baseline when a woman rang the doorbell Friday. The teen didn't open the door because he didn't recognize her, Police Officer James Holmes said Saturday.

Soon after, the teen heard a bang on the door, rushed his siblings upstairs and got a handgun from his parent's bedroom. When he got to the top of the stairs, he saw a man breaking through the front door and point a gun at him.

The boy shot the 37-year-old man, who is in critical condition but expected to survive and be booked into jail.

Holmes said the suspect did not get a shot off. He declined to release his name until he is booked into jail.

The woman who rang the home's doorbell got away.

Holmes hailed the teen's actions and his parents for teaching the kids to never open the door to strangers.



I am sure the parents will get charged with not having the weapon locked up, where children cannot get to it .

Surprised they didn't haul the kid off to jail and charge him with assault with a deadly weapon. :sarcasm:

I am sure the parents will get charged with not having the weapon locked up, where children cannot get to it .

I'm sure they won't. Do you ever stop to think how ridiculous you sound?

I'm sure they won't. Do you ever stop to think how ridiculous you sound?

If CPS had found the gun available to a kid this age then yes it would have happened, ridiculous sounding or not.

Surprised they didn't haul the kid off to jail and charge him with assault with a deadly weapon. :sarcasm:
Fear not Vince; it wasn't in Maryland...
I'm sure they won't. Do you ever stop to think how ridiculous you sound?
Who sounds what? Do you not know what liberalism has done to Maryland?

If CPS had found the gun available to a kid this age then yes it would have happened, ridiculous sounding or not.

CPS doesn't charge crimes, the police do. gheez

Fear not Vince; it wasn't in Maryland...

Who sounds what? Do you not know what liberalism has done to Maryland?

I know what people say it's done. I hear it all the time, but then see real life examples of where they are wrong. Case in point. People say all the time if you shoot an unarmed intruder in your home, you will get charged. Then we know if a case in St. Mary's County where a guy shot a college kid (on the porch of his house) and no charges were filed.

Supposition and real life are two different things.

I'm sure they won't. Do you ever stop to think how ridiculous you sound?
What's so stupid about ETC's reply? Anything is possible these days, and without knowing all of the Children's ages that were in the house at the time of the Incident, you should never have a Gun in the house that is not properly secured. Who's to say that it wasn't? Maybe it was, none of us know at this point. Thank God it was a good outcome, and that the only person hurt, was the POS that took the Bullet.

What's so stupid about ETC's reply? Anything is possible these days, and without knowing all of the Children's ages that were in the house at the time of the Incident, you should never have a Gun in the house that is not properly secured. Who's to say that it wasn't? Maybe it was, none of us know at this point. Thank God it was a good outcome, and that the only person hurt, was the POS that took the Bullet.

I didn't say it was stupid. Those are your words. Anything is possible any day. Having said that, it didn't happen. These stories get traded that the police and prosecutors are out to get people and their guns. While that is possible, it is the exception, not the rule. The statement is ridiculous because it didn't happen!

I will use your words though and say that ETC was stupid in writing what he did because this is the quote from the police who investigated the incident.

The police and indeed our community does not ever want to see a situation where a teenager of that age has to take a weapon to protect his family ... but this young man did exactly what he should have done," he said. "I'm not sure he gave full thought about what he had to do. He just acted."

Holmes said that the gun the teen grabbed was his father's, but did not know whether the boy had been trained to use it.

He said the family, whose names were not released, is declining to speak to reporters about the ordeal, saying that they "are all pretty traumatized."

"The dad was pretty much out of his mind with distress, officers couldn't even talk to him," Holmes said. "It's going to take them a while to recover mentally."


Holmes added that the family is lucky that the teen acted so swiftly and effectively.

"As ugly as this is, and as much as this family is going through, we don't have injured children on our hands," he said.

So instead of spouting off with his usual anti-government rhetoric, maybe he should have read what the police said about the incident?

CPS doesn't charge crimes, the police do. gheez

Ooh you got me, they just bring them with. Did it make you feel better to get a technical win and still look like an ass?

Ooh you got me, they just bring them with. Did it make you feel better to get a technical win and still look like an ass?

Right....I look like an ass because I point out your ignorance to the system. Did you even bother to read the article and see the praise the kid got from the authorities?

Right....I look like an ass because I point out your ignorance to the system. Did you even bother to read the article and see the praise the kid got from the authorities?
For NOW..he gets Praise. I actually love the fact that this Boy knew what to do, and things turned out "Just right" for his sake!! There is a fine line though, and all will come out in the Wash. His Parents may have had an unsecured Gun, or it might be that the Boy knew how to get to it, and knew how to use it. If that's the case, my hat is off to both he, and his Parents.

For NOW..he gets Praise. I actually love the fact that this Boy knew what to do, and things turned out "Just right" for his sake!! There is a fine line though, and all will come out in the Wash. His Parents may have had an unsecured Gun, or it might be that the Boy knew how to get to it, and knew how to use it. If that's the case, my hat is off to both he, and his Parents.

The wash is done, folded and put away. The police said it was a great job. How hard is it for people to accept what really goes on rather than buy into the hype that others sell on the internet?

I am sure the parents will get charged with not having the weapon locked up, where children cannot get to it .

I heard the intruder had a bag of skittles, a can of ice tea, backpack with screw drive and watches on him.

Obviously this kid was properly trained by someone in the use of the gun AND it wasn't locked up like our idiot government recommends. Yay to the parents for a change!! Imagine if the gun was locked away. This could have had a really bad outcome. I'm sure the media will now change their opinion on gun laws and accessibility, right? :killingme

Supposition and real life are two different things.

:howdy:

Homeowner, 80, charged in shooting of burglar: 'Unjust that I can't protect me' - Chicago Tribune (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-27/news/chi-elderly-man-shoots-burglar-in-englewood-both-charged-20120326_1_records-show-wright-felony-burglary-bathroom)

Homeowner who shot burglar faces assault charge - Spokesman Mobile - April 26, 2012 (http://m.spokesman.com/stories/2012/apr/26/homeowner-who-shot-burglar-faces-assault-charge/)

Homeowner charged in shooting of 2 men leaving in car - Sunday, March 14, 2010 | 12:27 p.m. - Las Vegas Sun (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/mar/14/police-homeowner-shoots-2-men-leaving-car/)

Avery Ranch homeowner charged with murder | kvue.com Austin (http://www.kvue.com/news/One-dead-after-crash-and-shooting-in-northwest-Austin-138635259.html)

Homeowner Charged With Killing Burglar - SouthJersey.com (http://www.southjersey.com/articles/?articleID=10913)

How many more do you want?

How many more do you want?

three :coffee:

If someone intrudes into my house, and I feel threatened, the intruder gets shot, and I will deal with the consequences. That simple.

I'm sure they won't. Do you ever stop to think how ridiculous you sound?

As much as you do troll

So instead of spouting off with his usual anti-government rhetoric, maybe he should have read what the police said about the incident?


Because parents NEVER get charged for leavening a weapon where children can get to it.

:howdy:

Homeowner, 80, charged in shooting of burglar: 'Unjust that I can't protect me' - Chicago Tribune (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-27/news/chi-elderly-man-shoots-burglar-in-englewood-both-charged-20120326_1_records-show-wright-felony-burglary-bathroom)

Because of prior weapons convictions, Wright was charged with unlawful use of a weapon,

Homeowner who shot burglar faces assault charge - Spokesman Mobile - April 26, 2012 (http://m.spokesman.com/stories/2012/apr/26/homeowner-who-shot-burglar-faces-assault-charge/)

The guy shot the suspect in the back after he was leaving. The suspect had broken into the homeowner's marijuana growing storage room.

Homeowner charged in shooting of 2 men leaving in car - Sunday, March 14, 2010 | 12:27 p.m. - Las Vegas Sun (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/mar/14/police-homeowner-shoots-2-men-leaving-car/)

Shot the guys for tampering with is work truck outside of his house.

Avery Ranch homeowner charged with murder | kvue.com Austin (http://www.kvue.com/news/One-dead-after-crash-and-shooting-in-northwest-Austin-138635259.html)

Shot the guy along side of a fence.

Homeowner Charged With Killing Burglar - SouthJersey.com (http://www.southjersey.com/articles/?articleID=10913)

Suspect was breaking into a shed outside of the guys house.

How many more do you want?

Did you read any of these stories?

NOT a single one of these stories did the burgular break into the house and the homeowner was charged. There is more to each of the story!

Homeowner shoots burglar trying to enter east Wichita home - KWCH (http://articles.kwch.com/2012-06-23/early-morning-shooting_32385394)

Police haven't finished the investigation, but Sgt. Dale Mattern says, "There's a lot of discretion, but if a homeowner feels that his life is threatened, then he has a right to protect himself."

Tacoma homeowner shoots burglar in face - seattlepi.com (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Tacoma-homeowner-shoots-burglar-in-face-3648391.php)


The investigation is ongoing, but Fulghum said it appears the resident was in fear for his life and protecting himself.

"If you're in fear for your safety or the safety of your family, friends or others, you have the right to protect yourself or protect them," he said.


Read more: Tacoma homeowner shoots burglar in face - seattlepi.com (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Tacoma-homeowner-shoots-burglar-in-face-3648391.php#ixzz1yo2vObcp)
Springville homeowner shoots, kills intruder | Deseret News (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865551247/Springville-homeowner-shoots-kills-intruder.html?pg=all)

"I don't see any reason to think it's anything but (self-defense)," Caron said. "They don't know this guy. This guy came into the house, threatened them, claimed he had a gun and, to protect his family, (the homeowner) took that action."

Cops: Homeowner shoots burglary suspect (http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/cops-homeowner-shoots-burglary-suspect-1.3744105)

Anderson was first taken to Peconic Bay Medical Center, but because of his injuries, he was transferred to Stony Brook, where he remains in police custody. The Stony Brook official declined to provide Anderson's condition.

Homeowner shoots burglar on Albuquerque West Side | KOB.com (http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2544729.shtml)

Torres will not face charges for shooting Garcia. Roseman said Torres was within his legal rights to defend his property with a gun.

And here is a local one for you before you claim that it wouldn't happen in Maryland....

Intruder shot in St. Mary’s County home, authorities say - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/intruder-shot-in-st-marys-county-home-authorities-say/2011/11/21/gIQAsQCtjN_story.html)
A burglar was shot in Southern Maryland over the weekend in a struggle with a homeowner, authorities said.

Because parents NEVER get charged for leavening a weapon where children can get to it.

Parents do get charged with that, but if you took two seconds to read the story, well maybe an hour with your comprehension skills, then you would know that each case has its own circumstances. When a parent gets charged there is usually some merit to charging them. I like the troll comment. You don't like what someone says so call them names. That's intelligent.

yeah and your not trolling .........

I'm sure they won't. Do you ever stop to think how ridiculous you sound?


because calling me ridiculous is congenial conversation between 2 adults


but I'll bite, I an guessing you work in Law Enforcement, because you appear to take umbrage with the common thought process [I call common, because I am not the ONLY one] in thinking the DA could come back with a charge on the parents of 'not securing a weapon' where children could get to it.

a common law in many jurisdictions [IMHO mostly run by liberals] after some child shoots another, with a weapon that was not secured.

stupid parents for not teaching their children proper respect for firearms, not for leaving a weapon loaded in the house .... I will state for children under 4 that probably cannot understand what guns are, a hand run should be placed out of reach - like on top of a refrigerator or book case

yeah and your not trolling .........




because calling me ridiculous is congenial conversation between 2 adults


but I'll bite, I an guessing you work in Law Enforcement, because you appear to take umbrage with the common thought process [I call common, because I am not the ONLY one] in thinking the DA could come back with a charge on the parents of 'not securing a weapon' where children could get to it.

a common law in many jurisdictions [IMHO mostly run by liberals] after some child shoots another, with a weapon that was not secured.

stupid parents for not teaching their children proper respect for firearms, not for leaving a weapon loaded in the house .... I will state for children under 4 that probably cannot understand what guns are, a hand run should be placed out of reach - like on top of a refrigerator or book case

I think you should take your meds. I can hardly make out the dribble you are trying to write.

More Congenial Conversation Craig



in the iggy box you go FYVM

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Of course. When you know you are wrong, put the person on ignore. Why pay attention to the truth. It is typical of your type. You don't want the truth, just the hype written by the conspiritor types like yourself who loath this wonderful country we have because of your miserable place in life.

Ahhhh Much Better ..........



This message is hidden because itsrequired, Hank, Black Francis, CRAIG is on your ignore list.

Right....I look like an ass because I point out your ignorance to the system. Did you even bother to read the article and see the praise the kid got from the authorities?Since I know where to find Maryland codes best I'll put them in Section 4-104 - Child's access to firearms. :: 2010 Maryland Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia (http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-law/title-4/subtitle-1/4-104/)


§ 4-104. Child's access to firearms
(c) Prohibited.- A person may not store or leave a loaded firearm in a location where the person knew or should have known that an unsupervised child would gain access to the firearm.


and yes you do look like an ass.

I for once, am glad the parents left an unlocked gun where this 14 year old child had access and training to use it, and put it to good use.

I'm glad he used it in the proper manner, for protection. That's why most people have guns. All too often teens play with them and shoot themselves, their friends or their siblings. For once, he shot the bad guy!!!

:thewave:

Because parents NEVER get charged for leavening a weapon where children can get to it.
Did you forget the :sarcasm: thingy?

Good for the kid.

This is why you should teach your kids about guns early in life.

My nephew started hunting at 7 years old. He's 10 now, and constantly pulls in deer, turkey, squirrel, hog, etc.

But, my brother-in-law taught him to respect guns, and they are never to be used as toys.

I think you should take your meds. I can hardly make out the dribble you are trying to write.
Maybe you are the one that needs to take your Meds, OR brush up on your Comprehension skills! Whew...touchy today, aren't we. I really do hope that you are OK!

Since I know where to find Maryland codes best I'll put them in Section 4-104 - Child's access to firearms. :: 2010 Maryland Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia (http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-law/title-4/subtitle-1/4-104/)



and yes you do look like an ass.

Thanks for the post: I notice this:

He does not look that bad if you read the whole thing:






4) the child has a certificate of firearm and hunter safety issued under § 10-301.1 of the Natural Resources Article.

(c) Prohibited.- A person may not store or leave a loaded firearm in a location where the person knew or should have known that an unsupervised child would gain access to the firearm.

(d) Penalty.- A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to a fine not exceeding $1,000.

(e) Effect of violation.-

(1) A violation of this section may not:

(i) be considered evidence of negligence;

(ii) be considered evidence of contributory negligence;



So if the child has been trained and certified, there is no issue here.

Thanks for the post: I notice this:

He does not look that bad if you read the whole thing:






4) the child has a certificate of firearm and hunter safety issued under § 10-301.1 of the Natural Resources Article.

(c) Prohibited.- A person may not store or leave a loaded firearm in a location where the person knew or should have known that an unsupervised child would gain access to the firearm.

(d) Penalty.- A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to a fine not exceeding $1,000.

(e) Effect of violation.-

(1) A violation of this section may not:

(i) be considered evidence of negligence;

(ii) be considered evidence of contributory negligence;



So if the child has been trained and certified, there is no issue here.
Then there's the issue of the younger brother and sister, they would require the same training.

My nephew started hunting at 7 years old. He's 10 now, and constantly pulls in deer, turkey, squirrel, hog, etc.





in my early teens I spent some time at my aunts house in North Central PA [near Kane] - we would take my cousins .30-30 Winchester out 20 rnds of ammo, and some cans and go shooting, no one thought twice about two guys with a deer rifle walking out to the small town, into the nearby state forest .....

could you imagine the :cds: now a days

in my early teens I spent some time at my aunts house in North Central PA [near Kane] - we would take my cousins .30-30 Winchester out 20 rnds of ammo, and some cans and go shooting, no one thought twice about two guys with a deer rifle walking out to the small town, into the nearby state forest .....

could you imagine the :cds: now a days

Now we have guys who legally open carry getting stopped and questioned.

"Concerned citizens" drive down the road and see someone with a pistol hanging off their hip, and they automatically call the cops. Whatever makes them feel safe, warm, and fuzzy I guess....:bigwhoop:

in my early teens I spent some time at my aunts house in North Central PA [near Kane] - we would take my cousins .30-30 Winchester out 20 rnds of ammo, and some cans and go shooting, no one thought twice about two guys with a deer rifle walking out to the small town, into the nearby state forest .....

could you imagine the :cds: now a days

We took the 22 and about 20 bricks of ammo and we'd be gone until we couldn't see the targets.

Since I know where to find Maryland codes best I'll put them in Section 4-104 - Child's access to firearms. :: 2010 Maryland Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia (http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-law/title-4/subtitle-1/4-104/)



and yes you do look like an ass.

I look like an ass when you are proven to be completely wrong? Ok. You still show your ignorance to the justice system. Nobody disputes that there is a law against not securing your weapon, but because you are ignorant to the system you don't understand police and prosecutorial discretion.

This case is a perfect illustration of proper discretion but you try and use it to show how the law is screwed up. Unfortunately for you and the rest of your anti-government, put aluminum foil because they are coming to get me, conspiritorist, the police and prosecutors most often do the right things when it comes to cases like this.

If I look like an ass to you or your cronies, I will take that as a complment because obviously you see the world backwards.

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Maybe you are the one that needs to take your Meds, OR brush up on your Comprehension skills! Whew...touchy today, aren't we. I really do hope that you are OK!

Pisses off a gun fearing liberal when one of their own gets shot while breaking into a conservatives home.

Too funny that I am in ETC's head so much that he thinks everyone that disagrees and questions him is me.... #rentfree

:diva:

:lmao:

Too funny that I am in ETC's head so much that he thinks everyone that disagrees and questions him is me.... #rentfree

:diva:

:lmao:

Actually, you tend to mention him more than he mentions you, if anyone is in the others head, I would have to guess that he has succeeded in squatting pretty firmly in yours.

Actually, you tend to mention him more than he mentions you, if anyone is in the others head, I would have to guess that he has succeeded in squatting pretty firmly in yours.

I beg to differ... Show me where, Mr. Blowhard...

Oh Lookiee ..... Craig broke out Hank to troll some more



when you get similar bussshiot ..... from multiple TROLLS

Oh Lookiee ..... Craig broke out Hank to troll some more



when you get similar bussshiot ..... from multiple TROLLS

Sorry dude... More than just me, think you are a flaming douche...:smoochy:

Sorry dude... More than just me, think you are a flaming douche...:smoochy:

I am trying to picture what a flaming douche looks like, and imagine it would be incredibly painful. I don't think ETC looks like that, but I could be wrong. :shrug: