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ontheriver
07-05-2012, 07:04 PM
Anybody have any suggestions?

somdfunguy
07-05-2012, 07:32 PM
Go two car

bcp
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
would it be cheaper to buy an older car that would make the garage look newer?

ontheriver
07-05-2012, 07:57 PM
would it be cheaper to buy an older car that would make the garage look newer?

I have an old car, '69 charger. The garage is for her. You are so crazy. I think I love you. But, seriously. I have an OLD garage, block, with a flat rubber roof. I need a proper place for Charger with storage above. ( I have a lot of junk, and I like all of it, so ..... storage above.) I can't go beyond my "footprint", because I'm in critical area, ... but I can go up...

bcp
07-05-2012, 08:05 PM
I have an old car, '69 charger. The garage is for her. You are so crazy. I think I love you. But, seriously. I have an OLD garage, block, with a flat rubber roof. I need a proper place for Charger with storage above. ( I have a lot of junk, and I like all of it, so ..... storage above.) I can't go beyond my "footprint", because I'm in critical area, ... but I can go up...

if its block, a simple inspection will tell you if you can go up on the existing structure, then its a simple matter of taking off the existing roof and going up.

Love the 69 chargers, it deserves a special place, nice light paneled walls, then do a black and white tile floor, some indirect lighting, Posters of the Chargers through the years, naked women posters ( or the real thing if its in the budget) a glass front beer fridge,, I could have fun with your money :killingme

ontheriver
07-05-2012, 08:21 PM
if its block, a simple inspection will tell you if you can go up on the existing structure, then its a simple matter of taking off the existing roof and going up.

Love the 69 chargers, it deserves a special place, nice light paneled walls, then do a black and white tile floor, some indirect lighting, Posters of the Chargers through the years, naked women posters ( or the real thing if its in the budget) a glass front beer fridge,, I could have fun with your money :killingme

You is stupid.... but, she DOES deserve a special place, because she is awesome. I don't have MONEY (spent it all on the car) ,.... but, I CAN take care of business.... I just want a quality garage, cause I'm not doin' it again. I am looking for someone to build my garage, so I can take care of Charger, and NOT prolong RETIREMENT..... :yahoo: I DO have a sign that says "Charger Parking Only"! As far as the nekkid women...., I has nekkid stained glass wimmins built into the house.... so, that's covered....not to worry.

ItalianScallion
07-05-2012, 11:08 PM
Wait until the weekend; A lot of people will have garage sales...:whistle:

Seriously though, what area are you in and do you have the permits yet?

ArkRescue
07-06-2012, 06:56 AM
speaking of garages ..... I took a few pictures from my adventures on the 4th of July.

okay, okay so it's :offtopic: :biteme:

Vince
07-06-2012, 07:01 AM
Go two carGo 2 1/2. You never have too much garage room.

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 07:07 AM
speaking of garages ..... I took a few pictures from my adventures on the 4th of July.

okay, okay so it's :offtopic: :biteme:

Pretty.. Is you burned up?

ArkRescue
07-06-2012, 07:10 AM
Pretty.. Is you burned up?

nah, apparently I did a good job of repeat applications of sunscreen considering how many hours I was in the sun that day. As fair as I am, I don't think I could ever use too much sunscreen LOL

bcp
07-06-2012, 07:12 AM
Wait until the weekend; A lot of people will have garage sales...:whistle:

Seriously though, what area are you in and do you have the permits yet?

you thinking old fashioned church raising?

GWguy
07-06-2012, 08:16 AM
you thinking old fashioned church raising?

I did that when I built a barn in NY. Afterwards we had an old fashioned BenGay and beer raising.

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 08:57 AM
Wait until the weekend; A lot of people will have garage sales...:whistle:

Seriously though, what area are you in and do you have the permits yet?

I'm in St. Mary's. I think I can get a "renovation" permit instead of a building permit.

Chris0nllyn
07-06-2012, 09:01 AM
I went with a metal garage. 30'x36'

Fairly cheap, No posts in the middle of the garage, Only need a foundation, and final inspection (IF you don't get the electric and plumbing inspected, or if you have it at all), Took us a weekend to put together, room for a lift (as you can see).

87113

Like someone said, there's never enough garage space.

kom526
07-06-2012, 09:04 AM
I went with a metal garage. 30'x36'

Fairly cheap, No posts in the middle of the garage, Only need a foundation, and final inspection (IF you don't get the electric and plumbing inspected, or if you have it at all), Took us a weekend to put together, room for a lift (as you can see).

87113

Like someone said, there's never enough garage space.

OTR has critical areas restrictions to consider. If the footprint is big enough, I'd tear down and rebuild something like this on the existing pad.

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 09:05 AM
I went with a metal garage. 30'x36'

Fairly cheap, No posts in the middle of the garage, Only need a foundation, and final inspection (IF you don't get the electric and plumbing inspected, or if you have it at all), Took us a weekend to put together, room for a lift (as you can see).

87113

Like someone said, there's never enough garage space.

I could go with something like that. As I said, though, it can't be bigger than what I already have. It's a very small lot. Where did you find yours?

Chris0nllyn
07-06-2012, 09:05 AM
OTR has critical areas restrictions to consider. If the footprint is big enough, I'd tear down and rebuild something like this on the existing pad.

Mine is in the critical area as well...I forgot to mention that.

Vince
07-06-2012, 09:06 AM
Went with this, but I have a Cape Cod style house. Didn't get the upstairs windows.

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 09:09 AM
Went with this, but I have a Cape Cod style house. Didn't get the upstairs windows.

See, that's my DREAM garage. *jealous*

Chris0nllyn
07-06-2012, 09:14 AM
I could go with something like that. As I said, though, it can't be bigger than what I already have. It's a very small lot. Where did you find yours?

I can't remember what the exact company was, but there are tons of them out there.

Steel Buildings, Steel Building Garage Kits, Prefab Metal Garages, Steel Garages - Olympia Steel Buildings (http://www.olympiabuildings.com/garage-kits.htm)

Garage Kits & Buildings, Carports - Steel Buildings for RVs, Trucks, and Cars (http://www.versatube.com/metal-buildings/garage-kits-buildings)

You'll probably have to rent some type of forklift though. They brought ours on a big 18 wheeler and we had to have a forklift to get it off.

You'll also need some type of scaffolding or scissor lift to assemble the beams.

bcp
07-06-2012, 10:37 AM
See, that's my DREAM garage. *jealous*

Post a picture of what you have now and give the dimensions

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 10:57 AM
Post a picture of what you have now and give the dimensions

:blushing: you know, I won the "ugliest" garage award many moons ago. The radio station gave me $500 to get a new door. I'll measure when I get home.

bcp
07-06-2012, 11:04 AM
:blushing: you know, I won the "ugliest" garage award many moons ago. The radio station gave me $500 to get a new door. I'll measure when I get home.

Im just thinking that if you got enough people together, it could be done alot cheaper.

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 11:07 AM
Im just thinking that if you got enough people together, it could be done alot cheaper.

cheaper is good.

bcp
07-06-2012, 11:11 AM
cheaper is good.

but you would still have to have the footer and walls inspected to make sure they were done properly in the first place and would be safe to hold the additional weight.
Hint, this might require digging down along to side to make sure the footer is deep enough, if not it might require underpinning. or actually building the top floor bigger than the bottom by a few inches and giving it support from the exterior.

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 11:14 AM
but you would still have to have the footer and walls inspected to make sure they were done properly in the first place and would be safe to hold the additional weight.
Hint, this might require digging down along to side to make sure the footer is deep enough, if not it might require underpinning. or actually building the top floor bigger than the bottom by a few inches and giving it support from the exterior.

well, cheaper is good, but I definitely would want it to be safe, sound, and legal.

bcp
07-06-2012, 12:06 PM
well, cheaper is good, but I definitely would want it to be safe, sound, and legal.

If you wait till its cooler, I can help and make sure the building is safe and sound, but I am not qualified to inspect the foundation and walls, someone else would have to do that and certify it before the first bit of work started.
you would also have to find an electrician that would either step in and inspect our work afterwards, or run the electrical cheap for you.. or, just dont add any electrical upstairs until after the final inspection....

ontheriver
07-06-2012, 12:12 PM
If you wait till its cooler, I can help and make sure the building is safe and sound, but I am not qualified to inspect the foundation and walls, someone else would have to do that and certify it before the first bit of work started.
you would also have to find an electrician that would either step in and inspect our work afterwards, or run the electrical cheap for you.. or, just dont add any electrical upstairs until after the final inspection....

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I'd just like to make sure Charger is under cover by the time the hard part of winter hits. :howdy:

acommondisaster
07-06-2012, 07:48 PM
mmmmm winter. :hot:

willie
07-07-2012, 05:27 PM
I have an old car, '69 charger. The garage is for her. You are so crazy. I think I love you. But, seriously. I have an OLD garage, block, with a flat rubber roof. I need a proper place for Charger with storage above. ( I have a lot of junk, and I like all of it, so ..... storage above.) I can't go beyond my "footprint", because I'm in critical area, ... but I can go up...
There is a formula concerning the % of impervious land and the lot size. You might be able to exceed the current footprint.

Dukesdad
07-07-2012, 06:08 PM
Anybody have any suggestions?

My suggestion.

Give me the car. I'll take you riding when you want and save you all that $$$ on the garage.

:smoochy:

ontheriver
07-07-2012, 07:04 PM
My suggestion.

Give me the car. I'll take you riding when you want and save you all that $$$ on the garage.

:smoochy:

Awww. What a sweet offer.. :smack: :smoochy:

bcp
07-08-2012, 08:33 AM
There is a formula concerning the % of impervious land and the lot size. You might be able to exceed the current footprint.

in non critical areas it is roughly 25% of land that can be covered on any given lot.
Where you can run into problems is if you want to tear down an old structure and build a new one in its place. If the old structure exceeded the limitations, you might not get the permits to replace it with a new, even if it is the same footprint.
The buildings are grandfathered in, not the footprint. Tear it down and you start all over with that pesky impervious thing.

ontheriver
07-08-2012, 08:48 AM
in non critical areas it is roughly 25% of land that can be covered on any given lot.
Where you can run into problems is if you want to tear down an old structure and build a new one in its place. If the old structure exceeded the limitations, you might not get the permits to replace it with a new, even if it is the same footprint.
The buildings are grandfathered in, not the footprint. Tear it down and you start all over with that pesky impervious thing.

Ed Zachary. I believe the critical areas is 15%. At least, that's the number I "remember" hearing. (I wanted a pool here, no dice...) :frown:

bcp
07-08-2012, 08:57 AM
Ed Zachary. I believe the critical areas is 15%. At least, that's the number I "remember" hearing. (I wanted a pool here, no dice...) :frown:

Right now we are strongly considering bulldozing our current shack into its basement and covering it over, then clearing some land farther back on the property and building a new and improved shack.
I was concerned about how much of a foot print we could throw down because I do not want a multi level home, no basement, no second floor etc...
When I discovered that I could pretty much go 25% all concerns were gone, I cant afford to cover 25% of 5 acres. :killingme

ontheriver
07-08-2012, 09:03 AM
Right now we are strongly considering bulldozing our current shack into its basement and covering it over, then clearing some land farther back on the property and building a new and improved shack.
I was concerned about how much of a foot print we could throw down because I do not want a multi level home, no basement, no second floor etc...
When I discovered that I could pretty much go 25% all concerns were gone, I cant afford to cover 25% of 5 acres. :killingme

5 acres is good. This lot is not even a quarter acre (.23). Now mind you, I wouldn't move for ANY amount of money, but I am restricted with that huge river taking up space out front.....:whistle:

willie
07-09-2012, 02:58 PM
Ed Zachary. I believe the critical areas is 15%. At least, that's the number I "remember" hearing. (I wanted a pool here, no dice...) :frown:
I just finished a 784 sq.ft. garage (on the water). 15% is the figure they worked with. Surprisingly, CR6 is considered impervious. The whole process was a lot easier than I was expecting.

ontheriver
07-10-2012, 08:11 AM
BCP, to answer your question, approximate size is 12' x 15'.

DEEKAYPEE8569
07-10-2012, 08:14 AM
You is stupid.... but, she DOES deserve a special place, because she is awesome. I don't have MONEY (spent it all on the car) ,.... but, I CAN take care of business.... I just want a quality garage, cause I'm not doin' it again. I am looking for someone to build my garage, so I can take care of Charger, and NOT prolong RETIREMENT..... :yahoo: I DO have a sign that says "Charger Parking Only"! As far as the nekkid women...., I has nekkid stained glass wimmins built into the house.... so, that's covered....not to worry.

Don't'cha mean 'not prolong getting to retirement?'

DEEKAYPEE8569
07-10-2012, 08:16 AM
Go 2 1/2. You never have too much garage room.

A 20'x30'x8' would work, wouldn't it?

ontheriver
07-10-2012, 08:19 AM
Don't'cha mean 'not prolong getting to retirement?'

I think you knew what I meant.... :coffee:

DEEKAYPEE8569
07-10-2012, 08:21 AM
I think you knew what I meant.... :coffee:

Well.....yeah..... :biggrin:

glhs837
07-10-2012, 09:28 AM
I just finished a 784 sq.ft. garage (on the water). 15% is the figure they worked with. Surprisingly, CR6 is considered impervious. The whole process was a lot easier than I was expecting.

A 20'x30'x8' would work, wouldn't it?



NO kidding, they call recycled asphalt impervious? Seems odd, I haven't seen any puddles forming on the lower driveway which I had done when I moved in almost a year ago.

Dee, I think 20 isnt quite wide enough, not if you want to be able do work, 24 is the bare minimum width, IMHO, but even that is going to limit you. It think everyone is conditioned by modern garages into thinking that it you can squeeze a car in there, it's acceptable, never mind opening the doors and such.

ArkRescue
07-10-2012, 10:04 AM
Im just thinking that if you got enough people together, it could be done alot cheaper.

Yeah, and I'd be willing to volunteer and bring along a helper too.

ontheriver
07-10-2012, 10:14 AM
Yeah, and I'd be willing to volunteer and bring along a helper too.

:howdy: :huggy:

GWguy
07-10-2012, 10:19 AM
Yeah, and I'd be willing to volunteer and bring along a helper too.

Not sure a cat will be of much help.

bcp
07-10-2012, 10:20 AM
Not sure a cat will be of much help.

Construction crews always appreciate a little pussy walking around when they work.

GWguy
07-10-2012, 10:23 AM
Construction crews always appreciate a little pussy walking around when they work.

Ah. you're right.


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