Texas Voter ID Clown Show Ends Today (http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/07/12/texas-voter-id-clown-show-ends-today/?singlepage=true)


The Texas voter ID trial wraps up today with closing arguments in a D.C. federal courtroom. The trial featured bizarre and absurd testimony. I believe Texas is bound to lose this case because the statutory language is stacked against the state. But celebrations at the DOJ and in civil rights groups may be short-lived. Texas voter ID might die, but after the clown show this week put on by the DOJ’s witnesses, the short-term victory over Texas might take the life of Section 5 when it gets to the Supreme Court.

In addition to seeking approval of voter ID, Texas is also challenging the constitutionality of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. That challenge will be heard later. Section 5 requires sixteen states to submit all election changes for preclearance. Actually the number is more like 15 because DOJ has given New Hampshire a Granite State Free Ride (http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/04/05/dojs-granite-state-free-ride/), essentially ignoring the state’s obligation to comply with the law.

Shelby County, Alabama, is making a facial challenge to the statute, but after this week, the Texas challenge looks to pack a wilder punch.

Consider this: After DOJ wins the voter ID case against Texas, Section 5 will reach the Supreme Court in a case that featured Department of Justice testimony that Governor Rick Perry’s administration is infested with fascists and white supremacists. This evidence was presented by DOJ to support a finding of racially discriminatory intent.

The craziest part is that the DOJ lawyers (http://pjmedia.com/blog/every-single-one-the-politicized-hiring-of-eric-holder%e2%80%99s-voting-section/) trying the case probably believe it.

The clown show saw another DOJ expert, paid thousands of dollars by you, the taxpayer, opine that vast numbers of Texans do not have photo identification. On that list were President George Bush, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, and Phil Gramm. These days that’s called an epic fail.

But the testimony got even more ridiculous. San Antonio teenager Victoria Rodriguez travelled the whole way to Washington, D.C., for the clown show. She testified that she did not have photo ID, even though she had the birth certificate to get a free one. Her excuse? She couldn’t find the time. Neither could her parents be bothered to drive her to get the ID. One wonders if Victoria Rodriguez ever leaves the house, or when she does, if she has other priorities besides voting. I’d suspect so.

One also wonders why DOJ lawyers decided to put her on the stand.

Then another DOJ expert kept the clown show rolling along when he relied on a list of voters “disenfranchised” because they didn’t have voter ID. On that list was a white man named Rodney Ellis. Except there was one problem: state Senator Rodney Ellis testified from the stand he has a driver’s license. (http://electionlawcenter.com/2012/07/12/clownshow-rolls-on-doj-expert-ids-sen-rodney-ellis-as-white.aspx) Oh, there was another problem with the DOJ expert list – Ellis is also black. (http://electionlawcenter.com/2012/07/12/clownshow-rolls-on-doj-expert-ids-sen-rodney-ellis-as-white.aspx)

This is the quality of data being used to scare minorities into thinking millions of people will be disenfranchised in November through voter ID.

The clown show also featured a DOJ expert (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/11/texas-trial-day-one) who compared Justices Scalia and Thomas to the segregationist racist justices in the Dred Scott decision. Just wait until that’s made known to the Supreme Court.

Don’t forget that the clown show saw Texas Election Director Keith Ingram on the stand. The DOJ experts had identified Ingram and his wife (twice) as voters without photo identification. Ingram pulled his photo ID out of his wallet on the stand. The expert hired by DOJ was paid thousands of tax dollars for a report relying on this faulty data.

Clown shows cost money, your money.

Finally, the clown show had partisan origins. Tax dollars flowed toward Catalist to provide some of this laughable voter data to the DOJ experts. Who is Catalist? A left-wing get-out-the-vote operation. (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/05/Holder-Employs-Democrat-Operative-Org-to-Challenge-Texas-Voter-ID-Law)

I wouldn't have a problem if they mailed all documented citizens a photo ID free of charge. Requiring someone to pay $20 for a photo ID (along with their voter registration) in order to vote amounts to, IMO, a poll tax.

I wouldn't have a problem if they mailed all documented citizens a photo ID free of charge. Requiring someone to pay $20 for a photo ID (along with their voter registration) in order to vote amounts to, IMO, a poll tax.How much does it cost for these people to travel to and from the polls? Maybe we should kick in the cost of transportation.

A poll tax is charging $20 (to use your example) strictly to vote. Paying $20 for an ID is not a poll tax.

I'd be willing to wager that the number of legitimate people (i.e., legal citizens that don't otherwise have their ability to vote revoked) that don't have an ID is less than the number of people that vote illegally. Every vote that is cast illigitimately robs from the voters that vote legally.

What guarantee do we have that the system works and can't be manipulated by some unscrupulous person or group? To blindly say that we don't want someone to take even a basic step to ensure a honest and legitimate election is ignorant. I believe that most states offer people a means to get a free ID, so the cost is not an issue.

How much does it cost for these people to travel to and from the polls? Maybe we should kick in the cost of transportation.

A poll tax is charging $20 (to use your example) strictly to vote. Paying $20 for an ID is not a poll tax.

I'd be willing to wager that the number of legitimate people (i.e., legal citizens that don't otherwise have their ability to vote revoked) that don't have an ID is less than the number of people that vote illegally. Every vote that is cast illigitimately robs from the voters that vote legally.

What guarantee do we have that the system works and can't be manipulated by some unscrupulous person or group? To blindly say that we don't want someone to take even a basic step to ensure a honest and legitimate election is ignorant. I believe that most states offer people a means to get a free ID, so the cost is not an issue.

So, people should have to pay $20 or whatever for an ID in order to vote? Again, in my opinion, that amounts to a poll tax.

I've already issued a solution to the "problem", which is for the state to mail every DOCUMENTED CITIZEN an ID card. It's a completely foolproof solution. I don't know how you can have a problem with that?

So, people should have to pay $20 or whatever for an ID in order to vote? Again, in my opinion, that amounts to a poll tax.

I've already issued a solution to the "problem", which is for the state to mail every DOCUMENTED CITIZEN an ID card. It's a completely foolproof solution. I don't know how you can have a problem with that?

When do the individuals reach an age where the nanny state can take the pacifier? You hit 18 you do two things, register to vote and apply for a photo ID, easy peasy. The $20 is not a poll tax, it covers those pesky little things called "employees" and those other things called "administrative fees" and "infrastructure". Unless you want to pay an extra tax to cover the expense of hand holding, nuturing and coddling.

So, people should have to pay $20 or whatever for an ID in order to vote? Again, in my opinion, that amounts to a poll tax.

I've already issued a solution to the "problem", which is for the state to mail every DOCUMENTED CITIZEN an ID card. It's a completely foolproof solution. I don't know how you can have a problem with that?

how are these people able to cash their welfare checks, because lets face it, this is about the welfare crowd.
How do they apply for their free gubmint money?
How can healthcare be instituted and kept in order if we cant ask for an ID when people come in for their free gubmint entitlements?

I call BS on the arguments against voter ID, the least the left could do is be honest about it and admit that they dont want to keep people from voting more than once, that they dont want to keep illegals from voting.

If healthcare goes through, do you have any idea how many will not be able to participate in the program due to the inability to stand still long enough to get their picture taken?
I suggest setting up and issuing Picture ID cards at Wal-Marts, thats where most of these people hang out anyway.
They can afford to buy their Kools at 70.00 a carton, but they cant find 20 bucks to get an ID?
BS.
If they are that stupid they deserve to die anyway.

Texas is offering free IDs to those who can't afford them to vote.

No $20.

Andy is wrong again.

Yet Victoria Rodriguez found time to go to DC, how did she get there? It couldn't have been abord a commercial flight, did she drive without a valid license?

Yet Victoria Rodriguez found time to go to DC, how did she get there? It couldn't have been abord a commercial flight, did she drive without a valid license?

If she cant afford 20 bucks for an ID, how can she afford a car, insurance and fuel to go to DC? I don't think she drove.

she must have prostituted herself for rides or something.

If she cant afford 20 bucks for an ID, how can she afford a car, insurance and fuel to go to DC? I don't think she drove.

she must have prostituted herself for rides or something.

I would submit that there is a very real possibility that her entire trip was paid for by a group that needed a "face of the poor, downtrodden people that are unable to afford an ID" to promote their agenda. But, when I think about it, I guess you are right, either way she prostituted herself.

One person, one vote. No proof, no vote!

I wouldn't have a problem if they mailed all documented citizens a photo ID free of charge. Requiring someone to pay $20 for a photo ID (along with their voter registration) in order to vote amounts to, IMO, a poll tax.

Where did the $20 for an ID come from?

If she cant afford 20 bucks for an ID, how can she afford a car, insurance and fuel to go to DC? I don't think she drove.

she must have prostituted herself for rides or something.

She could not fly, don't you have to show ID to fly nowadays?

So, people should have to pay $20 or whatever for an ID in order to vote? Again, in my opinion, that amounts to a poll tax.Your argument would have merit if the ID were developed for the specific purpose of participating in the voting process. In other words only a specific Voter ID card, not a generic ID such as a driver's license. With that being said, does the individual have any responsibility in order to participate in the voting process? Do they need to spend ANY time or money in order to vote?

Should a person be compensated for the costs to register? How about the costs to travel to/from the polling location?

What's more important: ensuring that only legitimate voter cast ballots or letting everyone vote in the hopes that only legitimate voters cast ballots?

So, people should have to pay $20 or whatever for an ID in order to vote? Again, in my opinion, that amounts to a poll tax.

I've already issued a solution to the "problem", which is for the state to mail every DOCUMENTED CITIZEN an ID card. It's a completely foolproof solution. I don't know how you can have a problem with that?

The DOJ (Holder & his racist subordinates), refused to share Federal Databases with the states. A federal district court, however, ruled against the DOJ’s call for an injunction to immediately stop Florida’s voter purge. This forced the sharing of databases so that DOCUMENTED CITIZENS are on the rolls, not dead folks, Mickey Mouse, or dogs.

So, people should have to pay $20 or whatever for an ID in order to vote? Again, in my opinion, that amounts to a poll tax.

I've already issued a solution to the "problem", which is for the state to mail every DOCUMENTED CITIZEN an ID card. It's a completely foolproof solution. I don't know how you can have a problem with that?

Nothing is foolproof.

So, people should have to pay $20 or whatever for an ID in order to vote? Again, in my opinion, that amounts to a poll tax.

I've already issued a solution to the "problem", which is for the state to mail every DOCUMENTED CITIZEN an ID card. It's a completely foolproof solution. I don't know how you can have a problem with that?

Does the poll worker take the ID card away from the person when they come to vote? If the answer is "No" then this is not a poll tax. If the answer is "Yes" you might have a point (but if you comb your hair over it, it probably won't show).

Texas is offering free IDs to those who can't afford them to vote.

No $20.

Andy is wrong again.

Why are we still debating $20 cost?

Texas is offering free IDs to those who can't afford them to vote.

No $20.

Andy is wrong again.

Then Texas is different from many other states in which I don't have a problem with Texas' laws.

Then Texas is different from many other states in which I don't have a problem with Texas' laws.

Does this mean you are against obamacare due to the restrictive access that it will have to have?

Then Texas is different from many other states in which I don't have a problem with Texas' laws.

Which ones, because I think all of the ones that require an ID provide it free if you can't afford to pay.