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Giantone
07-16-2012, 12:14 PM
35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tjwalker/2012/07/14/35-questions-mitt-romney-must-answer-about-bain-capital-before-the-issue-can-go-away/)


Unfortunately for the Romney Campaign, the slew of TV interviews did little to satisfy the media. In times of crisis, a strong candidate will come up with answers that satisfy the basic questions surrounding the controversy and will make people want to move on to another subject. Romney, however, could not seem to come up with basic messages that resolved the controversies. Many of his answers seemed evasive or overly legalistic. The biggest problem for Romney is that all of his interviews have only increased the questions that political observers, voters and the media have regarding the subject of Bain Capital.

Specifically, Romney is going to have to answer the following 35 questions before this issue subsides:


hit the link to see the 35 questions .....but hey facts aren't in the GOP vocabulary

Baja28
07-16-2012, 12:15 PM
You couldn't answer 10 good things about Obama! Feelings hurt??

Giantone
07-16-2012, 12:18 PM
You couldn't answer 10 good things about Obama! Feelings hurt??


....already did ,DA.:killingme

kom526
07-16-2012, 12:19 PM
Romney doesn't have the privilege of "executive order" to keep the facts from coming out. :fastandfurious::collegetranscripts:

itsbob
07-16-2012, 12:27 PM
Romney doesn't have the privilege of "executive privilege" to keep the facts from coming out. :fastandfurious::collegetranscripts:

:fixed:

Baja28
07-16-2012, 12:28 PM
....already did ,DA.:killingmeNo, you did not.

Giantone
07-16-2012, 12:30 PM
Romney doesn't have the privilege of "executive order" to keep the facts from coming out. :fastandfurious::collegetranscripts:


2 different things but hey don't let the total stupidity of your post bother you.:killingme

Giantone
07-16-2012, 12:31 PM
Romney doesn't have the privilege of "executive order" to keep the facts from coming out. :fastandfurious::collegetranscripts:



....lets pray to God he never gets it!!!:buddies:

kom526
07-16-2012, 12:32 PM
Anybody remember this?

White House Jobs Czar, GE CEO Immelt Moves Jobs to China | West Orlando News Online 2012® Central Florida News, Info, Sports (http://westorlandonews.com/2011/08/02/white-house-jobs-czar-ge-ceo-immelt-moves-jobs-to-china/)

How many jobs did Bain allegedly move overseas?

Giantone
07-16-2012, 12:48 PM
Anybody remember this?

White House Jobs Czar, GE CEO Immelt Moves Jobs to China | West Orlando News Online 2012® Central Florida News, Info, Sports (http://westorlandonews.com/2011/08/02/white-house-jobs-czar-ge-ceo-immelt-moves-jobs-to-china/)

How many jobs did Bain allegedly move overseas?


....that and running companies into the ground till they were bankrupt.

Dontel58
07-16-2012, 01:11 PM
35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tjwalker/2012/07/14/35-questions-mitt-romney-must-answer-about-bain-capital-before-the-issue-can-go-away/)


Unfortunately for the Romney Campaign, the slew of TV interviews did little to satisfy the media. In times of crisis, a strong candidate will come up with answers that satisfy the basic questions surrounding the controversy and will make people want to move on to another subject. Romney, however, could not seem to come up with basic messages that resolved the controversies. Many of his answers seemed evasive or overly legalistic. The biggest problem for Romney is that all of his interviews have only increased the questions that political observers, voters and the media have regarding the subject of Bain Capital.

Specifically, Romney is going to have to answer the following 35 questions before this issue subsides:


hit the link to see the 35 questions .....but hey facts aren't in the GOP vocabulary


It is funny how you Commies believe that you own a patent on "facts" and the GOP are backwoods ignorant people. I know this is not about your post mentioned above but can you honestly tell me why BO should be re-elected?


Yeah I'm a an idiot so don't waste your breath;)

Pete
07-16-2012, 01:15 PM
My 35 questions for Obama, many which have been asked before but not answered or answered insufficiently.

1. You seem to have been unusually close to a domestic terrorist, how is this possible?

2. Why did you vote present so many times?

3. How did you afford your costly Ivy League education?

4. What were your grades?

5. Why did you avoid the Birth Certificate thing so long and waste the courts time?

6. Van Jones? Really? What the #### were you thinking?

7. Do you employ former lobbyists or is that promise too old to honor?

8. Why did you pass off your book when you really didn't write it?

9. What are you going to do when you run out of money?

10. Why did you fly AF1 from DC to Va Beach for a political fund raiser?

11. How do you justify so many vacations and get aways?

12. What happened to that promise about bills being posted online for 72 hours before a vote?

13. David Axlerod? Really?

14. Do you still think they love you in Berlin?

15. Why won't you tell the UN to STFU?

16. What do you have on Hillary and Bill?

17. How long have you believed your own press?

18. If you could say one thing to Ruth Bader Ginsburg would it be "Damn #####, why didn't you retire so i could fill your spot?"?

19. Who is your favorite character on "Swamp people"?

20. Tell the truth, this #### is harder than it looked isn't it?

21. What is the logic behind policies that put middle class people out of work so you can help people who wont work?

22. How long can you extend unemployment before you have to rename it TANF?

23. Have you ALWAYS thought that the government was there to cure every ill, or was that mindset formed as a result of Affirmative Action?

24. What did you have to do for Terry McCauliffe to get him to screw over Hillary like that?

25. Is Harry Reid really that stupid or is it an act?

26. Is Nanci Pelosi really that stupid or is that an act?

27. If John Boehner was on fire would you piss on him to put it out?

28. Do you giggle everytime you hear the name Boehner?

29. Van Jones? Really? (Repeat but it is worth asking again)

30. Does the Reverend Wright ever call to chat since you threw him under the bus?

31. What are your feelings on closing Gitmo? Oh wait.....

32. How do you rationalize that Bush and Chaney water boarding terrorists for info is BAD but having a list of Americans on a hit list to be assassinated by a drone is NOT BAD?

33. That SEAL stuff is cool eh?

34. Why, if you are so awesome do you feel the need to be so nasty?

35. Can I borrow some of your money?

Giantone
07-16-2012, 01:17 PM
It is funny how you Commies believe that you own a patent on "facts" and the GOP are backwoods ignorant people. I know this is not about your post mentioned above but can you honestly tell me why BO should be re-elected?


Yeah I'm a an idiot so don't waste your breath;)




In his first two years in office, President Obama secured major legislative victories, the likes of which have not been seen since President Lyndon Johnson. In his first two years, he successfully enacted the Recovery Act, which created more than 3 million jobs and saved two of the Big 3 automakers. He passed education reform with Race to the Top and invested in our infrastructure.

The President passed health care reform, overhauled the financial sector to help protect consumers, repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell,” passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, and secured a New START Treaty. The President ended the war in Iraq, helped allies overthrow a dictator in Libya, expanded SCHIP—the child's health insurance program—to include 4 million new kids, and he put two women on the Supreme Court who we can all be proud of.

The miracle is that he accomplished these legislative successes with either little or no help from the Republican Party, the party that put us on the brink in the first place. It's been difficult to move legislation throughout the Republican-led House, but his accomplishments in the first three years of his administration more than exceed the records of presidents who have served longer terms. What President Barack Obama has done in his first term deserves to be rewarded—with a second term.

SamSpade
07-16-2012, 01:19 PM
Anybody remember this?

White House Jobs Czar, GE CEO Immelt Moves Jobs to China | West Orlando News Online 2012® Central Florida News, Info, Sports (http://westorlandonews.com/2011/08/02/white-house-jobs-czar-ge-ceo-immelt-moves-jobs-to-china/)

How many jobs did Bain allegedly move overseas?

People need to distinguish between "moving jobs" (offshoring) and outsourcing.

When jobs are "moved", they're lost here, and created there. Bain didn't do that.

When something is outsourced, someone "outside" is hired - it almost never means a job is lost. In fact, outsourcing doesn't even mean "outside the country". It can mean simply outside the company. If I start a small business and outsource my customer service to India, no one lost their job - BUT *I* now have one. But I could still outsource my customer service - to Iowa.

Most of the claims of lost jobs have been proven false - and outsourcing jobs has meant something as innocuous as hiring call centers in Japan to help Japanese customers.

Follow the information.

And recognize this basic rule of life - you are ALWAYS being manipulated. Be smart enough to know who's doing it.

Pete
07-16-2012, 01:22 PM
In his first two years in office, President Obama secured major legislative victories, the likes of which have not been seen since President Lyndon Johnson. In his first two years, he successfully enacted the Recovery Act, which created more than 3 million jobs and saved two of the Big 3 automakers. He passed education reform with Race to the Top and invested in our infrastructure.

The President passed health care reform, overhauled the financial sector to help protect consumers, repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell,” passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, and secured a New START Treaty. The President ended the war in Iraq, helped allies overthrow a dictator in Libya, expanded SCHIP—the child's health insurance program—to include 4 million new kids, and he put two women on the Supreme Court who we can all be proud of.

The miracle is that he accomplished these legislative successes with either little or no help from the Republican Party, the party that put us on the brink in the first place. It's been difficult to move legislation throughout the Republican-led House, but his accomplishments in the first three years of his administration more than exceed the records of presidents who have served longer terms. What President Barack Obama has done in his first term deserves to be rewarded—with a second term.

You should cite your sources if you are going to copy directly from the works of others.

Why Barack Obama Should Be Re-Elected to a Second Term | Democrats.org (http://www.democrats.org/news/blog/why_barack_obama_should_be_re_elected_to_a_second_term)

Plagiarism makes Baby Jesus cry.

SamSpade
07-16-2012, 01:22 PM
It's been difficult to move legislation throughout the Republican-led House.

More like, very little gets through the Senate. Like *budgets*. The logjam ain't the House.

Try to remember, the House doesn't work for the White House. They don't jump to his tune.

SamSpade
07-16-2012, 01:24 PM
You should cite your sources if you are going to copy directly from the works of others.

Why Barack Obama Should Be Re-Elected to a Second Term | Democrats.org (http://www.democrats.org/news/blog/why_barack_obama_should_be_re_elected_to_a_second_term)

Plagiarism makes Baby Jesus cry.

Actually, per terms of this forum and the Fair Use rule - if he doesn't, he can be banned.

kom526
07-16-2012, 01:25 PM
People need to distinguish between "moving jobs" (offshoring) and outsourcing.

When jobs are "moved", they're lost here, and created there. Bain didn't do that.

When something is outsourced, someone "outside" is hired - it almost never means a job is lost. In fact, outsourcing doesn't even mean "outside the country". It can mean simply outside the company. If I start a small business and outsource my customer service to India, no one lost their job - BUT *I* now have one. But I could still outsource my customer service - to Iowa.

Most of the claims of lost jobs have been proven false - and outsourcing jobs has meant something as innocuous as hiring call centers in Japan to help Japanese customers.

Follow the information.

And recognize this basic rule of life - you are ALWAYS being manipulated. Be smart enough to know who's doing it.
:yay:

My company outsources plenty of work to provide better service for our customers, but none of it ever leaves the US. The very polar opposite of what the JOBS CZAR did with GE, but moving offshore and outsourcing means the same thing, unless you are a political crony that gave you an entire TV network (and subsidiaries) for your 2008 campaign.

Pete
07-16-2012, 01:27 PM
Actually, per terms of this forum and the Fair Use rule - if he doesn't, he can be banned.

I care little about that. What I thought was funny is that 99% of the time he comes off as a window licker barely able to string together a coherent thought....the 1% he does it is so noticeable you can be pretty much be assured he swiped it from someplace and is trying to pass it off as his.:killingme

Gilligan
07-16-2012, 01:28 PM
You should cite your sources if you are going to copy directly from the works of others.

Why Barack Obama Should Be Re-Elected to a Second Term | Democrats.org (http://www.democrats.org/news/blog/why_barack_obama_should_be_re_elected_to_a_second_term)

Plagiarism makes Baby Jesus cry.

That. Giantone's oft-demonstrated fucntional illiteracy prompted me to immediately find the source for that plagiarized bit of propaganda too.

Gilligan
07-16-2012, 01:29 PM
Actually, per terms of this forum and the Fair Use rule - if he doesn't, he can be banned.

And quickly.

kom526
07-16-2012, 01:30 PM
I :heart: Ctrl [C] & Ctrl [V]!

SamSpade
07-16-2012, 01:36 PM
I care little about that. What I thought was funny is that 99% of the time he comes off as a window licker barely able to string together a coherent thought....the 1% he does it is so noticeable you can be pretty much be assured he swiped it from someplace and is trying to pass it off as his.:killingme

I kind of thought that too. I guess my BS detector is low on batteries. I'm usually good at detecting phony quotes, though.

My only worry about Fair Use is that it affects the FORUM and not the guilty party.

Gilligan
07-16-2012, 01:42 PM
I kind of thought that too. I guess my BS detector is low on batteries. I'm usually good at detecting phony quotes, though.

My only worry about Fair Use is that it affects the FORUM and not the guilty party.

I didn't make it past the second sentence before I knew he had copied the entire post. Took another 30 seconds to locate the source..but when I returned to the tread with link, I noticed that Pete had already done it.

Pete
07-16-2012, 01:47 PM
I kind of thought that too. I guess my BS detector is low on batteries. I'm usually good at detecting phony quotes, though.

My only worry about Fair Use is that it affects the FORUM and not the guilty party.

I didn't make it past the second sentence before I knew he had copied the entire post. Took another 30 seconds to locate the source..but when I returned to the tread with link, I noticed that Pete had already done it.

True but I sincerely doubt that the DNC cares, hell they might give him an Obama Badge for getting the word out. I am shocked that the plagiarized snippet extolling the virtues of Obama left out that "he killed Osama Bin Laden" which is one of their favorites.

SamSpade
07-16-2012, 01:51 PM
....that and running companies into the ground till they were bankrupt.

You DO know what they did at Bain, right? You seem to think they're corporate raiders. You know, hostile takeovers. Richard Gere in "Pretty Woman".

Not at all. A lot of what they do involves startups that need investment capital, but a lot of times, they're dealing with mature companies that are struggling and they go asking for outside help.

Somebody called them "vampires". There's at least ONE similarity - they can't come in unless they're invited.

But it's important to bear in mind that companies come for money when they're on their last breath. I read this morning about a steel company they didn't succeed with, but they had done things like massively underfund their pension fund before they came to Bain. The handwriting was on the wall - they were going to fail.

Some companies are going to fail, anyway. That's the nature of it all. If you're an oncologist and all of your patients arrive in Stage III, you're not a murderer if some of them die. Frankly, if half of them live, I'd consider you a minor deity.

Bain usually did better than that. When a company is failing, there's only a few options. One of them is that everyone loses their job. That is likely without help. Another is that some lose their jobs and the company survives. Another is that the company prospers and more people get jobs.

If you've heard of Sports Authority or Staples, you get the idea.

Frankly, whatever you think of Mitt, he's been at the practice of creating jobs. Obama has never done anything of the kind and has shown he's terrible at it.

aps45819
07-16-2012, 01:53 PM
2 different things but hey don't let the total stupidity of your post bother you.:killingme

You're correct.
Neither Romney's tax returns nor his tenure as CEO of Bain killed anybody.

Obama's attempt to undermine the 2nd ammendment did kill hundreds of people.
... but for some reason you support Obama's plan to provide Mexican drug dealers with weapons.

SamSpade
07-16-2012, 02:00 PM
You're correct.
Neither Romney's tax returns nor his tenure as CEO of Bain killed anybody.

Obama's attempt to undermine the 2nd ammendment did kill hundreds of people.
... but for some reason you support Obama's plan to provide Mexican drug dealers with weapons.

Ok, I've tried reading this but - was the whole purpose of Fast and Furious to make the case that gun laws need to be more restrictive? Did they purposely sell guns to intermediaries of drug dealers - not to FIND the drug cartels, but to make a point that we shouldn't be selling guns? Was it really just a stunt to curtail second amendment rights?

I've read that this time around, they made no effort to put any means of tracing on these guns, so once they were sold, they were gone.

Baja28
07-16-2012, 02:06 PM
And he's gone. Imagine that.

Dontel58
07-16-2012, 02:06 PM
In his first two years in office, President Obama secured major legislative victories, the likes of which have not been seen since President Lyndon Johnson. In his first two years, he successfully enacted the Recovery Act, which created more than 3 million jobs and saved two of the Big 3 automakers. He passed education reform with Race to the Top and invested in our infrastructure.

The President passed health care reform, overhauled the financial sector to help protect consumers, repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell,” passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, and secured a New START Treaty. The President ended the war in Iraq, helped allies overthrow a dictator in Libya, expanded SCHIP—the child's health insurance program—to include 4 million new kids, and he put two women on the Supreme Court who we can all be proud of.

The miracle is that he accomplished these legislative successes with either little or no help from the Republican Party, the party that put us on the brink in the first place. It's been difficult to move legislation throughout the Republican-led House, but his accomplishments in the first three years of his administration more than exceed the records of presidents who have served longer terms. What President Barack Obama has done in his first term deserves to be rewarded—with a second term.


The Stimulus created three million jobs? Why is the total job force is down more than a million since the One has been in office? SCHIP 4 million kids up to the age of 26? Libya = Muslim Brotherhood. Hell why don't go after Syria and Iran. Lets see Kagan had no Judicial experience but that is alright, remember the treatment when Bush's Solicitor General when she was appointed.

Remember those debt limit deals that Obama pulled over the Republican? Let's not forget WE HAVEN'T HAD A BUDGET PASSED since he has been President! Yeah I guess it is the Republican's fault :sarcasm:

aps45819
07-16-2012, 02:11 PM
Ok, I've tried reading this but - was the whole purpose of Fast and Furious to make the case that gun laws need to be more restrictive? Did they purposely sell guns to intermediaries of drug dealers - not to FIND the drug cartels, but to make a point that we shouldn't be selling guns? Was it really just a stunt to curtail second amendment rights?

I've read that this time around, they made no effort to put any means of tracing on these guns, so once they were sold, they were gone.

Return to 2009 and we hear
U.S. to blame for much of Mexico violence: Clinton | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/03/25/us-usa-mexico-idUSTRE52O5RF20090325)
and
Barack Obama, April 16, 2009: “This war is being waged with guns purchased not here but in the United States… more than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that lay in our shared border. So we have responsibilities as well.”
Now we have Obama claiming executive privilege on the documentation of F&F
Doesn't require the FBI to figure it out

Pete
07-16-2012, 02:11 PM
Appointing the debt reduction panel to do the job of our elected officials is beyond shameful and should cost every damn one of them their job and Obama should lead the march out of DC.

aps45819
07-16-2012, 02:14 PM
The Stimulus created three million jobs? Why is the total job force is down more than a million since the One has been in office? SCHIP 4 million kids up to the age of 26? Libya = Muslim Brotherhood. Hell why don't go after Syria and Iran. Lets see Kagan had no Judicial experience but that is alright, remember the treatment when Bush's Solicitor General when she was appointed.

Remember those debt limit deals that Obama pulled over the Republican? Let's not forget WE HAVEN'T HAD A BUDGET PASSED since he has been President! Yeah I guess it is the Republican's fault :sarcasm:

created or "saved"

He paid state government workers with federal tax funds.
It keeps the money laundering flow of union dues running into the democrat's coffers

SamSpade
07-16-2012, 02:37 PM
created or "saved"

He paid state government workers with federal tax funds.
It keeps the money laundering flow of union dues running into the democrat's coffers


And now those states are going broke. But somehow, he gets the "save".

Gilligan
07-16-2012, 02:42 PM
And now those states are going broke. But somehow, he gets the "save".

Or does he? Those chickens are coming home to roost and he's still in the hen house trying to hide from the mess now.

kom526
07-16-2012, 02:43 PM
And now those states are going broke. But somehow, he gets the "save".

And this is the reason why Christie said "no way or no thanks" to Obama's idea of another stimulus check to the states.

Merlin99
07-16-2012, 03:18 PM
35. Can I borrow some of my money?
...

itsbob
07-16-2012, 04:13 PM
In his first two years in office, President Obama secured major legislative victories, the likes of which have not been seen since President Lyndon Johnson. In his first two years, he successfully enacted the Recovery Act, which created more than 3 million jobs and saved two of the Big 3 automakers. He passed education reform with Race to the Top and invested in our infrastructure.

The President passed health care reform, overhauled the financial sector to help protect consumers, repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell,” passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, and secured a New START Treaty. The President ended the war in Iraq, helped allies overthrow a dictator in Libya, expanded SCHIP—the child's health insurance program—to include 4 million new kids, and he put two women on the Supreme Court who we can all be proud of.

The miracle is that he accomplished these legislative successes with either little or no help from the Republican Party, the party that put us on the brink in the first place. It's been difficult to move legislation throughout the Republican-led House, but his accomplishments in the first three years of his administration more than exceed the records of presidents who have served longer terms. What President Barack Obama has done in his first term deserves to be rewarded—with a second term.


How is allowing Fiat to buy a US Auto Company SAVING a US Auto Company??

It's no longer a US company, just like if they had gone out of business and Fiat bought them on the auction block..


And I believe the THIRD (non-bailed out) company fared better than ANY of them.. and didn't have to (crap don't know what word to use since the term I would like to use would brand me a racist)... on their contracts or their investors to remain solvent..

Rommey
07-17-2012, 12:28 AM
4. Surely someone from Bain occasionally called you up and asked your opinion about something work-related from 1999 to 2002. Wouldn’t that qualify as “involvement,” if only on a minor level?This sounds like a gotcha-type of question. They are setting it up with their preconceived notion and making him try to defend something that may not have happened. "Surely you have stopped beating your wife, haven't you?"

10. On the very day after you took over the Winter Olympics, the Boston Herald reported that “Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investment and key personnel decisions.” Do you now contend this was factually inaccurate?

11. Do you have records of having written to the Boston Herald asking them to make a correction on this story?Maybe at the time of the Herald report, that was the official position from Bain's perspective. I mean did Romney know for a 100% certainty that he wasn't going to be involved after that date? We now know this to be the case, but did anyone know this in 1999, on that specific date? As for the retraction/correction: why correct something correcting the status that was originally reported correctly?

12. On July 19, 1999, a news release about the resignation of two Bain Capital managing directors describes you as CEO and “currently on a part-time leave of absence to head the Salt Lake City Olympic Committee.” Was this wrong?

13. Did you ask for a retraction?Was he on a leave of absence to head the SLC Olympics?

14. Why would Bain say this if you had severed all ties in Feb 1999?I don't believe he ever stated he "severed all ties" in 1999. He stated he wasn't involved in the company's operations or management.

Giantone
07-17-2012, 05:01 AM
Who was in charge if Mitt wasn't and why is his name on paper work signed as the CEO from 2001?

Gilligan
07-17-2012, 08:38 AM
Who was in charge if Mitt wasn't and why is his name on paper work signed as the CEO from 2001?

I was listed as the primary stockholder and principal partner of a Limited Liability Company that I stopped having anything at all to do with for about 5 years before the registration of the company was changed.

Why you ask?

SamSpade
07-17-2012, 08:41 AM
Who was in charge if Mitt wasn't and why is his name on paper work signed as the CEO from 2001?

Because he founded the company? (Along with a few others).

He left the executive committee in charge, and went to Winter Olympics. He was still owner of Bain, its shareholder, CEO and President. But he was across the country with a different job. He was also involved in any number of projects, but managing Bain wasn't one of them. Maybe you think that turning around the Winter Olympics, which was hundreds of millions in the red and leaving it 100 million in the black, and managing a thousand employees and twenty some thousand volunteers is a task you can do easily while running a private equity firm.

By 2002, he was basically bought out - he transferred all ownership and moved on.

THIS has been a story thoroughly checked out. Many outlets hostile to Romney have declared it bogus. There's no "there", there. He left Bain. He wasn't there.

Bainers are the new birthers.


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