For anyone who's been following this topic, Just came out, the judge lifted the stay in the court case. In 14 days (unless something else happens) you can get a CCW in Maryland without a "good and substantial reason" THE STAY IS LIFTED! effective in 14 days - Maryland Shooters (http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=87545)

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Where's a good place to get a pistol other than the tackle box

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Where's a good place to get a pistol other than the tackle box

Virginia.
less tax and you should still be able to register it here in Maryland.

Though, I still think you might need a dealer to handle the transaction.

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Where's a good place to get a pistol other than the tackle boxAccurate Guns and Ammo. North of Leonardtown on Rt 5.

How about Fred's Sporting Goods in Waldorf, Md:yahoo:

How about Fred's Sporting Goods in Waldorf, Md:yahoo:

Oh hell no, way overpriced and keeps an ammo purchased log which isn't really required.

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Where's a good place to get a pistol other than the tackle box

Keep Shooting in Waldorf. They don't have a store front, so you have to make an appointment. They're awesome, and Mario is cool as hell!

Virginia.
less tax and you should still be able to register it here in Maryland.

Though, I still think you might need a dealer to handle the transaction.

Still need to go through a FFL. Adding transfer fees, spent shell casing fees, MSP fees, etc. Probably easier to either order online, or buy from a FFL in MD.

How about Fred's Sporting Goods in Waldorf, Md:yahoo:

Oh hell no, way overpriced and keeps an ammo purchased log which isn't really required.

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Fred's gets a big NO in my book.

For anyone who's been following this topic, Just came out, the judge lifted the stay in the court case. In 14 days (unless something else happens) you can get a CCW in Maryland without a "good and substantial reason" THE STAY IS LIFTED! effective in 14 days - Maryland Shooters (http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=87545)

Call me a pessimist; but I think something is gonna rear its ugly head to screw it up.

Call me a pessimist; but I think something is gonna rear its ugly head to screw it up.

Meh, I don't know. Based on the judge's wording it seems like it'll be pretty hard for the state to prove that they need the stay.

Meh, I don't know. Based on the judge's wording it seems like it'll be pretty hard for the state to prove that they need the stay.

I didn't read up on the whole thing. Is Maryland gonna use fees to make it tough to get a CCW; ie; $150/year?

How about Fred's Sporting Goods in Waldorf, Md:yahoo:

OHN, better places than Fred's to shop in the Waldorf area. If you know what you want to order, keepshooting and Allpawn have the cheaper paperwork fees.
Firearm, Sporting Goods, Military Surplus Online Store in Waldorf MD - Keepshooting® (http://www.keepshooting.com/)
Allpawn (White Plains) (301) 885-2274
Angus McGregor's Trading Post (866) 374-9340

Next up for look and see would be either
Engage Armament in Kensington
Maryland Small Arms Range Inc - Police Equipment & Supplies (http://msar.com/home) in Upper Marlboro

I didn't read up on the whole thing. Is Maryland gonna use fees to make it tough to get a CCW; ie; $150/year?

I wouldn't doubt it. When they were debating it in Annapolis one person kept asking how much money they could make from issuing CCW permits.

I would imagine that if they are "forced" into issuing them, they would use it to put a dent in the deficit.

They could do things like make the renewal time shorter. For example, my Utah permit was only $50, and I don't have to renew it for 5 years. After 5 years it's only $15.

Virginia.
less tax and you should still be able to register it here in Maryland.

Though, I still think you might need a dealer to handle the transaction.

Maryland does not have a pistol registry. A MD resident can not go to Virginia to buy a gun at a gun shop.

For anyone who's been following this topic, Just came out, the judge lifted the stay in the court case. In 14 days (unless something else happens) you can get a CCW in Maryland without a "good and substantial reason" THE STAY IS LIFTED! effective in 14 days - Maryland Shooters (http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=87545)
It always puzzled me that living in Waldorf wasn't a "good & substantial reason"...

I didn't read up on the whole thing. Is Maryland gonna use fees to make it tough to get a CCW; ie; $150/year?

No doubt they will try, but it will come back on them in a quick hurry. It'll be very hard for them to charge more than they have been charging and justify it without it being seen as an extreme burden on those folks who can't afford the increased rates...which, in many cases are the folks who would argue that they live in areas where they need it the most.

Though, I still think you might need a dealer to handle the transaction.





I though all pistols coming into MD through FFL Transfers had to be 'fingerprinted' - aka fired and shell casing photos cataloged with the firearm make ans serial

No doubt they will try, but it will come back on them in a quick hurry. It'll be very hard for them to charge more than they have been charging and justify it without it being seen as an extreme burden on those folks who can't afford the increased rates...which, in many cases are the folks who would argue that they live in areas where they need it the most.

I don't think they will try to charge more, I see it as much more likely they will try and set up some sort of labyrinthine set up like DC. Just make the process so tedious and drawn out, "now that just anyone can get one, we have to take thesxe extra steps to make sure the folks who do are not going off half cocked", that very few people will make it through.

MILLER: The new guide to getting a gun in D.C. - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/jul/12/miller-new-guide-getting-gun-dc/)

Maryland does not have a pistol registry. A MD resident can not go to Virginia to buy a gun at a gun shop.

Yes they can, just not a regulated firearm.

The Gun Locker is a good place to buy guns.

I though all pistols coming into MD through FFL Transfers had to be 'fingerprinted' - aka fired and shell casing photos cataloged with the firearm make ans serial

Only new handguns, and I'd like to point out that only 1 crime has been solved using the shell casing "fingerprint", and they already had the guy's name, and tag number.

For anyone interested in this issue, might I suggest you check out this site Maryland Shooters (http://www.mdshooters.com) most of the information is under the Maryland 2A forum

Yes they can, just not a regulated firearm.

ok, but I thought this discussion was about buying a concealed carry gun. AKA a regulated firearm.

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Where's a good place to get a pistol other than the tackle box

Bob's Sunoco in Callaway has a small Bass Pro Shop inside. Nice folks and decent prices.

Where's a good place to get a pistol other than the tackle box

Accurate Guns and Ammo. North of Leonardtown on Rt 5.

Went to both looking for a Bersa .380
AC&A had one concealed carry (http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/thunder-concealed-carry.html) model for $360

The Tackel Box had the Matt finish and a Duotone (http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/thunder-series.html) for $319 and a Plus (http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/thunder-plus.html) with the 15 round magazine for $460

I wanted the finger rest on the magazine and $40 in my pocket so I pick up the duotone from the TB next week

Here is the order lifting the stay and the explanation. Very interesting reading and will provide insight as to what the 4th will be looking at

ok, but I thought this discussion was about buying a concealed carry gun. AKA a regulated firearm.

He's saying that you can go to VA and buy a non-regulated gun (shotgun, rifle, etc). But you can NOT go there to buy a regulated gun (handgun, "assault rifles", etc.) without going through a FFL.

I know Maine isn't Maryland but up here obtaining a CCW is as easy as pie. We have crimes the same as any place else but they are mostly restricted to the big cities. In the country where I am it's almost nil because the criminals know almost everyone owns a gun and knows how to use it.

I know Maine isn't Maryland but up here obtaining a CCW is as easy as pie. We have crimes the same as any place else but they are mostly restricted to the big cities. In the country where I am it's almost nil because the criminals know almost everyone owns a gun and knows how to use it.

make room... im moving to maine!!!! :yahoo:

It sounds like there are a fair amount of people that do not know we exist. If interested, Cromwell's Firearms is a no BS firearms dealer and full retailer with great prices (especially once you figure shipping and transfer fees if you order off the Internet). If you buy direct from us, there is no transfer or shipping fees.

We have a limited inventory on hand, but can get almost anything a couple of days if in stock with manufacturer/distributor. We are located in Great Mills, MD. We also gladly do transfers, but please let us see if we can get the item for you direct, which is typically better for both buyer and seller.

We also do basic gunsmithing.


Anyone interested in how the CCW/MD Handgun Permit goes, let us know, because we have been MD Permitted for the last 10 years, and over 20 years in other states.

We are MD State Police certified firearms instructors and NRA certified firearms instructors.

We plan on going live on a full Point of Sale web site soon and our web site will show everything our primary distributor stocks, which is thousands of items. Take a look at our current web site Home (http://www.cromwellsfirearms.com) to get an idea of our prices and policies.

Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Best regards,
Nick Cromwell
CEO & Owner

Cromwell's Firearms
Full Service Federal & MD Regulated Firearms Dealer
Great Mills, MD
240-298-7239 (ph)
301-863-0377 (fax)
cromwellsfirearms@yahoo.com
Home (http://www.cromwellsfirearms.com)

It sounds like there are a fair amount of people that do not know we exist. If interested, Cromwell's Firearms is a no BS firearms dealer and full retailer with great prices (especially once you figure shipping and transfer fees if you order off the Internet). If you buy direct from us, there is no transfer or shipping fees.

We have a limited inventory on hand, but can get almost anything a couple of days if in stock with manufacturer/distributor. We are located in Great Mills, MD. We also gladly do transfers, but please let us see if we can get the item for you direct, which is typically better for both buyer and seller.

We also do basic gunsmithing.


Anyone interested in how the CCW/MD Handgun Permit goes, let us know, because we have been MD Permitted for the last 10 years, and over 20 years in other states.

We are MD State Police certified firearms instructors and NRA certified firearms instructors.

We plan on going live on a full Point of Sale web site soon and our web site will show everything our primary distributor stocks, which is thousands of items. Take a look at our current web site Home (http://www.cromwellsfirearms.com) to get an idea of our prices and policies.

Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Best regards,
Nick Cromwell
CEO & Owner

Cromwell's Firearms
Full Service Federal & MD Regulated Firearms Dealer
Great Mills, MD
240-298-7239 (ph)
301-863-0377 (fax)
cromwellsfirearms@yahoo.com
Home (http://www.cromwellsfirearms.com)

Totally forgot about you guys! I have heard about you, and seen your website. Prices seem fair also.

Best of luck! :buddies:

For anyone interested in this issue, might I suggest you check out this site Maryland Shooters (http://www.mdshooters.com) most of the information is under the Maryland 2A forum
I wonder if the MSP application forms are going to change? Probably, so there's no sense in getting one now is there?

I wonder if the MSP application forms are going to change? Probably, so there's no sense in getting one now is there?

It'll change, but no use waiting on that if you really want your permit. Use the current application and where it asks about your G&S, simply put "all lawful purposes" and be done with it.
If you apply now (before the 8th) and the 4th puts another stay in place, you'll lose your application fee. If you can afford that, go for it and it may put you a wee bit ahead of others who wait. Otherwise, wait until after the 7th and ensure there is no stay and apply on the 8th.
You'll have to do electronic finger prints, but plenty of places do that now.

I wonder if the MSP application forms are going to change? Probably, so there's no sense in getting one now is there?

The trick is to get your app in before they change it. When they get around to changing the app, and more importantly, the laws, and regulations is when I have a feeling things will get crazy.

You'll have to do electronic finger prints, but plenty of places do that now.
Where's the best place for us in St.Mary's?

Where's the best place for us in St.Mary's?

I don't think there is one down there. You'll have to go to the Waldorf MVA, or Chuck County Police Station to get it done. The next closest place is in Wayson's Corner.

Fingerprinting Services / Fingerprinting Courses (http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/publicservs/fingerprint.shtml)

He's saying that you can go to VA and buy a non-regulated gun (shotgun, rifle, etc). But you can NOT go there to buy a regulated gun (handgun, "assault rifles", etc.) without going through a FFL.




huh ?


Does this cover 'private party' sales

huh ?


Does this cover 'private party' sales

Yes. Once you cross state lines, you enter into commerce, which the gubment doesn't like it's citizens to do.

It's all in the Gun control act of 1968
The Gun Control Act mandated the licensing of individuals and companies engaged in the business of selling firearms. This provision effectively prohibited the direct mail order of firearms (except antique firearms) by consumers and mandated that anyone who wants to buy a gun from a source other than a private individual must do so through a federally licensed firearms dealer. The Act also banned unlicensed individuals from acquiring handguns outside their state of residence. The interstate purchase of long guns (rifles and shotguns) was not impeded by the Act so long as the seller is federally licensed and such a sale is allowed by both the state of purchase and the state of residence.

Private sales between residents of two different states are also prohibited without going through a licensed dealer, except for the case of a buyer holding a Curio & Relic license purchasing a firearm that qualifies as a curio or relic.

Private sales between unlicensed individuals who are residents of the same state are allowed under federal law so long as such transfers do not violate the other existing federal and state laws. While current law mandates that a background check be performed if the seller has a federal firearms license, private parties living in the same state are not required to perform such checks under federal law. State laws however can prohibit such sales.

A person who does not have a Federal Firearms License may not be in the business of buying or selling firearms. Individuals buying and selling firearms without a federal license must be doing so from their own personal collection.

Under the Gun Control Act, a federally licensed importer, manufacturer, dealer or collector shall not sell or deliver any rifle or shotgun or ammunition for rifle or shotgun to any individual less than 18 years of age, nor any handgun or ammunition for a handgun to any individual less than 21 years of age. [5]

Where's the best place for us in St.Mary's?

Not St. Mary's, I know, but look about half way down this page: https://www.dllr.state.md.us/finance/industry/fingerprint.shtml

I went to Harborview in Glen Burnie. Had my prints done, picture taken and application notorized all at the same time. I was in and out in less than 15 minutes and there were 4 others ahead of me.

Where's the best place for us in St.Mary's?

The MSP in Leonardtown did at one time do printing, could be worth a call. I have gone there and also CCSO for printing in the past.

The MSP in Leonardtown did at one time do printing, could be worth a call. I have gone there and also CCSO for printing in the past.

Hard print cards are no longer accepted by the FBI so prints must be scanned. I don't know that the MSP offers that service. Not saying they don't, just not sure.

Hard print cards are no longer accepted by the FBI so prints must be scanned. I don't know that the MSP offers that service. Not saying they don't, just not sure.

Let's say Maryland passes SI. THIS is just gonna add yet another hoop to have to jump through.

http://www.delmarvaobserver.com/2012/03/14/maryland-state-police-no-longer-providing-fingerprinting-services/

In addition to this, I'm bettin' the application fee is gonna be astronomical too.

Let's say Maryland passes SI. THIS is just gonna add yet another hoop to have to jump through.

http://www.delmarvaobserver.com/2012/03/14/maryland-state-police-no-longer-providing-fingerprinting-services/

In addition to this, I'm bettin' the application fee is gonna be astronomical too.
Yes but "We the people" still win :yahoo:

I'm going to visit the MSP next week to find out what's the latest on the applications.

Yes but "We the people" still win :yahoo:

I'm going to visit the MSP next week to find out what's the latest on the applications.

Did you apply when Judge Legg first made his ruling? If you haven't got back the app, and your money, but had your interview, and background checks all complete, you will be one of the first to get it, if CA4 doesn't issue a stay.

If you didn't do all that, you'll have to apply, and send it in after Aug 8. Then pray that Ca4 doesn't issue a stay. If they do, MSP has your money, and you won't have a CCW permit.

Let's say Maryland passes SI. THIS is just gonna add yet another hoop to have to jump through.

http://www.delmarvaobserver.com/2012/03/14/maryland-state-police-no-longer-providing-fingerprinting-services/

In addition to this, I'm bettin' the application fee is gonna be astronomical too.

This already is in effect. You must go to a LiveScane location, and do it 48-72 hours before you send in your app.

Did you apply when Judge Legg first made his ruling? If you haven't got back the app, and your money, but had your interview, and background checks all complete, you will be one of the first to get it, if CA4 doesn't issue a stay.

If you didn't do all that, you'll have to apply, and send it in after Aug 8. Then pray that Ca4 doesn't issue a stay. If they do, MSP has your money, and you won't have a CCW permit.
I didn't want to lose my money to the MD liberals so I didn't apply yet. I can wait until the dust settles and the rush is over.

I didn't want to lose my money to the MD liberals so I didn't apply yet. I can wait until the dust settles and the rush is over.

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