This new Romney ad, hot off the press, so to speak, illustrates the problem Barack Obama has in running for re-election. His record is simply terrible, so whenever he tries to articulate his rationale for a second term, he opens himself up to a devastating rejoinder.It Worked? Seriously? | Power Line (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/07/it-worked-seriously.php)

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Too many fools fell for Obama's b.s. the first time around.

Well, there it is. What's disheartening is that these politicians, who do not give a crap about anyone but themselves, have so many faithful acolytes who will lap up any lie their god tells them. Now, I'm not convinced that Romney will be any better than Chairman Barry, but at least someone in his campaign finally has a clue as to what's important in this election.

Well, there it is. What's disheartening is that these politicians, who do not give a crap about anyone but themselves, have so many faithful acolytes who will lap up any lie their god tells them. Now, I'm not convinced that Romney will be any better than Chairman Barry, but at least someone in his campaign finally has a clue as to what's important in this election.

I agree to a great extent. What I find disheartening is Obama believes what he says. Breaking a few eggs to make an omelet is exactly how he is treating the American economy. Socialists want equal outcomes, everyone in misery.

What I find disheartening is Obama believes what he says.

Of course he believes it, and his plan is indeed "working". It's not what we thought he meant, but that's why he kept his message short and ambiguous. "I HOPE to be an oligarch because I want to CHANGE this country into a Socialist nation."

It's not his fault people are stupid; he's just taking advantage of it.

I agree to a great extent. What I find disheartening is Obama believes what he says. Breaking a few eggs to make an omelet is exactly how he is treating the American economy. Socialists want equal outcomes, everyone in misery.

It depends on what you mean by “It worked”. Remember Obama said he wants to ‘fundamentally transform” America. What do you think that means? He was raised and honed, all of his life, by socialists and communists. He grew to hate the way America is and was conditioned to know how he wants America to be. The only way to accomplish that is to tear our current systems down. That starts with destroying the economy.

So, from that aspect… it worked.

It depends on what you mean by “It worked”. Remember Obama said he wants to ‘fundamentally transform” America. What do you think that means? He was raised and honed, all of his life, by socialists and communists. He grew to hate the way America is and was conditioned to know how he wants America to be. The only way to accomplish that is to tear our current systems down. That starts with destroying the economy.

So, from that aspect… it worked.

Good point. Could be why yesterday was only his second time meeting with his cabinet members this year.

If things like jobs, and the economy were #1 issues, I'd bee meeting with people I chose to run each of those departments to get their input.

W but at least someone in his campaign finally has a clue as to what's important in this election.

And, what would that be? Honest question. I'd LOVE to have some sort of idea where Mitt is going to lead us.


This morning, Mike Steele and Howard Dean were going at it and Dean was all about the tax returns and how Mitt is out of touch and how regular Americans can't ever get that rich and have off shore accounts and tax shelters and on and on and Steele was like "Yes, they can!" and went on this lost narrative about how America is still great and all. And it's like, WHERE IS THE MEAT? Why can't Mitt just be comfortable being the rich son of a rich man who has done well? Why can't he just be comfortable knowing he and his life is very exceptional and NOT the rule? Any ONE can get rich but, this isn't about that. Exceptional individuals will ALWAYS find a way. This election is about the VAST majority of us that just wanna feel like we're working for ourselves again and not the bank and not the government.

Energy. Housing. Student loans. We, the people, are drowning in debt. It is fine when the economy is moving. People look forward. Now, it's stalled and many, many people are just getting by.

This SHOULD be Mitt's wheelhouse but, no one from his side is making the case on any of these KEY issues. Nothing can get better until they are addressed.

Good point. Could be why yesterday was only his second time meeting with his cabinet members this year.

If things like jobs, and the economy were #1 issues, I'd bee meeting with people I chose to run each of those departments to get their input.

Obama claims the economy and jobs are his major issues. He talks incessantly about these subjects as that is what the public wants to hear. But his actions are in direct conflict with his rhetoric. What's frustrating is the blind support for this con artist and all the rest of those Congresscritters on both sides of the aisle who are just looking out for THEIR pocketbooks and those of their friends.

Why can't Mitt just be comfortable being the rich son of a rich man who has done well? Why can't he just be comfortable knowing he and his life is very exceptional and NOT the rule?

You know the answer to this but seem to be in denial about it. Obama owns the narrative. Obama is making Romney’s wealth into a criminal act forcing Romney to constantly defend himself. I’ve said it over and over that democrats figured out a long time ago how to get to the emotions of voters; and the core issues is not it. That stuff is boring. But talk about how filthy rich and out of touch Romney is? Now that’s the kind of tabloid politics we can relate to.

Obama claims the economy and jobs are his major issues. He talks incessantly about these subjects as that is what the public wants to hear. But his actions are in direct conflict with his rhetoric. What's frustrating is the blind support for this con artist and all the rest of those Congresscritters on both sides of the aisle who are just looking out for THEIR pocketbooks and those of their friends.

What's even more frustrationg is that he still has supporters who actually believe him. He comes off as "Joe Cool", coins terms like "Change", and "Forward", and people eat it up.

Obama supporters, are you living under a rock!?

I'll be honest, I'm not entirely sure Romney will do much better. He's a business man, sure, and that may help him with the economy. What bothers me is that many in DC seem to think THEY know better than us. They spend, spend, spend on govt. run programs that are literally complete failures, every single one. I'm just not sure Romney is willing to actually CUT the spending, and return to Constitutional principals that this country was founded upon.

You know the answer to this but seem to be in denial about it. Obama owns the narrative. Obama is making Romney’s wealth into a criminal act forcing Romney to constantly defend himself. I’ve said it over and over that democrats figured out a long time ago how to get to the emotions of voters; and the core issues is not it. That stuff is boring. But talk about how filthy rich and out of touch Romney is? Now that’s the kind of tabloid politics we can relate to.

One day, I wish a politician would just be REAL. Romney needs to say "Look, jackass, I made this money by working hard (if he did). All Americans can do the same, it just takes some work." Problem is, after 4 years of people getting everything they want, why should they work hard? They won't be rich, but hey, they can get everything they need, and not work at all.

Obama claims the economy and jobs are his major issues. He talks incessantly about these subjects as that is what the public wants to hear. But his actions are in direct conflict with his rhetoric. What's frustrating is the blind support for this con artist and all the rest of those Congresscritters on both sides of the aisle who are just looking out for THEIR pocketbooks and those of their friends.

I kind of look at it like this... Girls are all gaga over Justin Bieber. Is that because he has great music? Nope... he's a cute kid that girls can drool over. He's not selling his music; his music really sucks. He's selling his sex appeal.

And, what would that be? Honest question. I'd LOVE to have some sort of idea where Mitt is going to lead us.


This morning, Mike Steele and Howard Dean were going at it and Dean was all about the tax returns and how Mitt is out of touch and how regular Americans can't ever get that rich and have off shore accounts and tax shelters and on and on and Steele was like "Yes, they can!" and went on this lost narrative about how America is still great and all. And it's like, WHERE IS THE MEAT? Why can't Mitt just be comfortable being the rich son of a rich man who has done well? Why can't he just be comfortable knowing he and his life is very exceptional and NOT the rule? Any ONE can get rich but, this isn't about that. Exceptional individuals will ALWAYS find a way. This election is about the VAST majority of us that just wanna feel like we're working for ourselves again and not the bank and not the government.

Energy. Housing. Student loans. We, the people, are drowning in debt. It is fine when the economy is moving. People look forward. Now, it's stalled and many, many people are just getting by.

This SHOULD be Mitt's wheelhouse but, no one from his side is making the case on any of these KEY issues. Nothing can get better until they are addressed.

Mitt donated his inheritance to BYU for scholarships. His money, he earned. I'm sure he had family connections that enabled him to excel.

I'm hoping Romney jumps on the free market interventions of over regulation and gets the government into actually passing a budget for a change.

I agree with you that the issues of energy and housing need to be addressed. Energy is the largest job producing industry right now! Get rid of Interior Secretary Salazar. He's a total f-up.

Freddie and Fanny's authority (and regulations) need to be gutted. The financial markets need regulations that actually address the problems, not the b.s. passed by Frank-Dodd.

/rant

One day, I wish a politician would just be REAL. Romney needs to say "Look, jackass, I made this money by working hard (if he did). All Americans can do the same, it just takes some work." Problem is, after 4 years of people getting everything they want, why should they work hard? They won't be rich, but hey, they can get everything they need, and not work at all.

Romney should be propped up as an example of what America is about. The business world isn’t a perfect one. People are going to get hired and people are going to get fired. Big corporations are constantly laying off people to adjust for financial shortfalls. Heck, the fed is about to go through massive budget cuts and thousands of civilians and contractors will get laid off. Thousands in the military are being forced out. This is how business works. It’s a tough world. You have to do for yourself to make yourself marketable; which means you actually have to work for it. With the exception of an extreme few that inherit their wealth, wealthy people worked hard, endless hours, sacrificing their own capital, their families, failing more than they succeed, to get to where they are; all to have these greedy liberals come along and tell them “you didn’t build that, someone else did” then have their wealth stripped away for no other reason than because they are wealthy.

It’s really shameful that anyone like Romney has to defend their success. It should be a selling point; but instead liberals have effectively made it a liability. We’ve become such a backwards thinking society.

Mitt donated his inheritance to BYU for scholarships. His money, he earned. I'm sure he had family connections that enabled him to excel. Which is another way of saying most of us ain't never going to be like Mitt. I have no problem with that. Neither should he.

I'm hoping Romney jumps on the free market interventions of over regulation and gets the government into actually passing a budget for a change.

I agree with you that the issues of energy and housing need to be addressed. Energy is the largest job producing industry right now! But, energy is not free market. At least, oil isn't. Nuke isn't. Nor coal. Get rid of Interior Secretary Salazar. He's a total f-up.

Freddie and Fanny's authority (and regulations) need to be gutted. The financial markets need regulations that actually address the problems, not the b.s. passed by Frank-Dodd. Now, we're cooking.

/rant

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Romney should be propped up as an example of what America is about. .

Why? I am a pro Main Street guy, not Wall Street. I am pro Mom and pop, not WalMart. I am pro lots of little kings, not a few enormous ones. I am pro small enough to sink or swim, anti Too Big To Fail. Corporations, big ones, feast on the regulations and rules and economic engineering of the gummint. Nothing protects them more than government keeping all the little people in line. We, the people, get swept away by them.

All Mitt ever did was take advantage of the challenges and problems the little guy faced, problems mostly of regulation and rules and government machinations of the dollar, trade rules and so on, and helped an entity get over the hurdles or help end their misery. I am not opposed to that, at all. Pressure to change, evolve, get better, is a good thing but, it can go too far. In a perfect capitalist world there is ONE of everything. Well, if you think about it, the PERFECT capitalist world, incessant survival of the fittest, there is one mega corporation and nothing else.

Mitt never invented anything. Never built anything. Never delivered a good or service, a product, other than figuring out the paper part of the equation. That's all well and good but, man, is that what America is, or should be, all about?

All Mitt ever did was take advantage of the challenges and problems the little guy faced, problems mostly of regulation and rules and government machinations of the dollar, trade rules and so on, and helped an entity get over the hurdles or help end their misery.?

Say what? Do you realize how many "Bains" there are out there and how many small companies would not exist had there not been??

I am. Many of the companies I've worked for and worked with were "bootstrapped" in to being successful and growing companies thanks in part or even entirely to equity venture capital and the firms that manage it.

Say what? Do you realize how many "Bains" there are out there and how many small companies would not exist had there not been??

I am. Many of the companies I've worked for and worked with were "bootstrapped" in to being successful and growing companies thanks in part or even entirely to equity venture capital and the firms that manage it.

I hear you. I am not anti Bain, at all. I am just responding to the assertion that Mitt is what America is all about. American is all about all those small companies. The Mitt's of the world are a part of that, down stream.

Why? I am a pro Main Street guy, not Wall Street. I am pro Mom and pop, not WalMart. I am pro lots of little kings, not a few enormous ones. I am pro small enough to sink or swim, anti Too Big To Fail. Corporations, big ones, feast on the regulations and rules and economic engineering of the gummint. Nothing protects them more than government keeping all the little people in line. We, the people, get swept away by them.

All Mitt ever did was take advantage of the challenges and problems the little guy faced, problems mostly of regulation and rules and government machinations of the dollar, trade rules and so on, and helped an entity get over the hurdles or help end their misery. I am not opposed to that, at all. Pressure to change, evolve, get better, is a good thing but, it can go too far. In a perfect capitalist world there is ONE of everything. Well, if you think about it, the PERFECT capitalist world, incessant survival of the fittest, there is one mega corporation and nothing else.

Mitt never invented anything. Never built anything. Never delivered a good or service, a product, other than figuring out the paper part of the equation. That's all well and good but, man, is that what America is, or should be, all about?

You watch WAY too much MSNBC.

What exactly is this “Main Street” thing you talk about? Doesn’t the average main street business aspire for Romney-like success? Sam Walton was once a ‘Main Street’ guy. So was Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Richard Sears, James Sinegal. Jeff Bezos...

Romney epitomizes success. It may not fit your narrow liking of success but, for crying out loud, compare his type of success to Obama’s in terms of what sort mind we want in the WH. Someone who has spend a lifetime figuring out how to destroy capitalism vs. someone who has spent their life actually working in the capitalistic system.

Point being, Obama is using Romney’s success as a failure. How backwards is this?

, compare his type of success to Obama’s in terms of what sort mind we want in the WH.

This is unavoidable, isn't it, the Les Evil thing? As long as it is, that is the BEST we will always have.

When will we get Mo Betta?

A; When we stop accept Les.


If America is all about finance then, we just disagree. It's important but, I hate to think of us as a bunch of bankers and fanciers.


"Tonight, True Grit. Watch the Duke fight off a hostile takeover bid as he finds a better margin from derivatives and a new depreciation schedule based on changes in LIBOR and the exchange rate!"

You watch WAY too much MSNBC.




I used to think ad hominy attacks were beneath you. :drama:

For your information, I watch WAY less MSNBC than I used to.


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I used to think ad hominy attacks were beneath you. :drama:

I hate hominy.

For your information, I watch WAY less MSNBC than I used to.


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That’s only because Big Brother is on. :jet:

You know the answer to this but seem to be in denial about it. Obama owns the narrative. Obama is making Romney’s wealth into a criminal act forcing Romney to constantly defend himself. I’ve said it over and over that democrats figured out a long time ago how to get to the emotions of voters; and the core issues is not it. That stuff is boring. But talk about how filthy rich and out of touch Romney is? Now that’s the kind of tabloid politics we can relate to.

^This^

Class warfare works. Jack up the proles and get them thinking they should have what smarter, harder working people have, then turn them loose. We have created an entitlement nation and now we get to watch it in action.

But I agree - Romney should come to grips with who he is, turn it into a positive, and stop trying to convince the masses that he's everyman.

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Too many fools fell for Obama's b.s. the first time around.

Yay for video editing! Obama was talking about Clinton's economic plan vs. Bush's economic plan.

Yay for video editing! Obama was talking about Clinton's economic plan vs. Bush's economic plan.

The problem with this is... it wasn't Clinton's plan; it was the GOP in congress. It wasn't until the GOP took full control of congress that Clinton did an about face. He raised taxes when he first entered into office with a democrat congress, and it had a detrimental effect on the economy. Strangely enough when the GOP put Clinton in a corner on taxes and welfare reform Clinton had a change of heart. The results are now history. Tax cuts and letting the economy run on its own reaped positive results. Although I believe Bush owns what he signed for, it was the democrats that ran the roost when all this mess started coming down. So, although we can blame Bush, we can’t blame the GOP. Bush and the democrats are at fault for creating this massive mess.

Of course democrats love to give credit to their president when things go good, but blame other presidents when things go bad.

Mitt donated his inheritance to BYU for scholarships. His money, he earned. I'm sure he had family connections that enabled him to excel.

I'm hoping Romney jumps on the free market interventions of over regulation and gets the government into actually passing a budget for a change.

I agree with you that the issues of energy and housing need to be addressed. Energy is the largest job producing industry right now! Get rid of Interior Secretary Salazar. He's a total f-up.

Freddie and Fanny's authority (and regulations) need to be gutted. The financial markets need regulations that actually address the problems, not the b.s. passed by Frank-Dodd.

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And donates at LEAST 10% of his income to his church... And I would bet it's more than..

Yay for video editing! Obama was talking about Clinton's economic plan vs. Bush's economic plan.

So what was the news anchor referring to?

What's even more frustrationg is that he still has supporters who actually believe him. He comes off as "Joe Cool", coins terms like "Change", and "Forward", and people eat it up.

Obama supporters, are you living under a rock!?

I'll be honest, I'm not entirely sure Romney will do much better. He's a business man, sure, and that may help him with the economy. What bothers me is that many in DC seem to think THEY know better than us. They spend, spend, spend on govt. run programs that are literally complete failures, every single one. I'm just not sure Romney is willing to actually CUT the spending, and return to Constitutional principals that this country was founded upon.

Obama is using propaganda tactics, pure and simple. He uses the "folksy" approach (My family and I are just like you) and simplifies his message so the "masses" can understand it. He will hook in those who respond to charisma and those who don't or can't bother to research the information, and to those who see an economic benefit to themselves and their corporations/foundations, etc.

The only way to beat this is to educate people about what propaganda is, provide examples from his campaign, and to keep pointing it out over, and over, and over, and over.

You know the answer to this but seem to be in denial about it. Obama owns the narrative. .

I know the answer to it BUT, I am not in denial about it, at all. I just think it is dumb politics. I do NOT see how 'the answer' works. Never have. Never will yet they all still do it. At least post Reagan they do. Reagan hit that weak as #### back right up the middle and sent the pitcher diving for cover.

Mitt is in an enormous position of power and influence now that he is the nominee. There's no more primary, no more fatal gaffs that can happen. He can go sacrifice a kitten and still get over 40% at this point. Why not change the narrative??? There is NO way he could be worse to the left at this point nor much better or worse with the rigth. Some candid honesty, some frankness, in my view, instead of letting this thing squeak down to the wire, looks to me like he could just win moderates over in droves by simply stop insulting their intelligence.

Obama is using propaganda tactics, pure and simple. He uses the "folksy" approach (My family and I are just like you) and simplifies his message so the "masses" can understand it. He will hook in those who respond to charisma and those who don't or can't bother to research the information, and to those who see an economic benefit to themselves and their corporations/foundations, etc.

The only way to beat this is to educate people about what propaganda is, provide examples from his campaign, and to keep pointing it out over, and over, and over, and over.

one of the Kenyan's campaign speeches from 2008? I heard it years ago and it needs to be replayed (over & over)...he was down south talking to a certain class of people...and he is chanting out things like:
*An pack a lunch for your child....(yay)
*An walk them from the school bus! ...(yay)
*An make sure they have a nutritious dinner!...(yay)
*An help them with their schoolwork!...(yay)
(He never says AND)

What kind of idiots think this is an intelligent political speech?
That is what caught him off the teleprompter just last week: His "church-chat" lunacy that he can't back up if it faces honest scrutiny.
20 years with Rev Wright leaves a lot of baggage that he can't avoid spewing.

BTW, I think some of the Romney ads have WAY better appeal compared to McCain's wimpy approach.

I know the answer to it BUT, I am not in denial about it, at all. I just think it is dumb politics. I do NOT see how 'the answer' works. Never have. Never will yet they all still do it. At least post Reagan they do. Reagan hit that weak as #### back right up the middle and sent the pitcher diving for cover.

Mitt is in an enormous position of power and influence now that he is the nominee. There's no more primary, no more fatal gaffs that can happen. He can go sacrifice a kitten and still get over 40% at this point. Why not change the narrative??? There is NO way he could be worse to the left at this point nor much better or worse with the rigth.

If Mitt were in this position of power we’d be hearing about the issues: the economy, getting spending under control, his tax plan, his war plan, who Romney is going to be as POTUS. Instead all he is doing is defending the onslaught of attacks by Obama. If he’s in this position of power he sure isn’t exercising it. Sacrifice a kitten? He can’t even get past his stupid taxes for crying out loud. He can’t get past the fact that he’s a wealthy guy will money tucked away in a couple of Swiss accounts. He has to defend being wealthy. That is one of the most outrageous and stupid things I can’t think of; you have to defend being successful. I don’t call that power, I call that weak and lacking an ability to sell yourself.

Some candid honesty, some frankness, in my view, instead of letting this thing squeak down to the wire, looks to me like he could just win moderates over in droves by simply stop insulting their intelligence.

Where do the Ron Paulers stand this time around? Are they going to do like they did the last time and sit it out in protest that their man or someone more conservative wasn’t picked? Is Romney too Les Evil for them?

If Mitt were in this position of power we’d be hearing about the issues: the economy, getting spending under control, his tax plan, his war plan, who Romney is going to be as POTUS. Instead all he is doing is defending the onslaught of attacks by Obama. If he’s in this position of power he sure isn’t exercising it. Sacrifice a kitten? He can’t even get past his stupid taxes for crying out loud. He can’t get past the fact that he’s a wealthy guy will money tucked away in a couple of Swiss accounts. He has to defend being wealthy. That is one of the most outrageous and stupid things I can’t think of; you have to defend being successful. I don’t call that power, I call that weak and lacking an ability to sell yourself.



Where do the Ron Paulers stand this time around? Are they going to do like they did the last time and sit it out in protest that their man or someone more conservative wasn’t picked? Is Romney too Les Evil for them?

Well, gosh. Two things. As lame as you seem to think Mitt is, why would anyone support someone who can't change the conversation even a little bit and two, if he's not so lame and it's just the all powerful media in charge, doesn't that mean Obama will win again, no matter what? So, why bother?

You make a compelling case

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Well, gosh. Two things. As lame as you seem to think Mitt is, why would anyone support someone who can't change the conversation even a little bit and two, if he's not so lame and it's just the all powerful media in charge, doesn't that mean Obama will win again, no matter what? So, why bother?

You make a compelling case

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Are you back to telling me the media isn’t powering the Obama ship? Obama and his team steers it, the media adds fuel and powers it. All Obama has to do is throw something out there and the media runs with it, regardless of the validity of it.

If we were able to talk about Obama’s record Romney would be beating the panties off Obama. One failure after another. If you believe the polls, they are in a dead heat. How can that be? Except that Obama has effectively put Romney on the ropes with lame issues like his tax records and that he somehow was a criminal in regard to his tenure at Bain.

Ask the average guy on the street what they know about Romney. Do you think you will hear: Great business man. Turned the Olympics around. Had a darn good track record as governor? I’m betting what you’ll hear is: Out of touch rich guy. Lied about his taxes. Wasn't he accused of being a felon?

But alas, you said it…. Why bother. Not from a MD perspective; but on a national level. In reality, from a conservative POV, Romney isn’t good enough. He’s just a notch above McCain. Maybe a little better on fiscal things, and maybe way better on charisma. But, bottom line he falls way short. So, to my question on that… what are you going to do? Is Romney good enough? As far as I know Paul has not endorsed Romney. I seem to remember Paul refusing to. Being the ardent Paul supporter, what are the Paul peeps going to do?

Are you back to telling me the media isn’t powering the Obama ship? Obama and his team steers it, the media adds fuel and powers it. All Obama has to do is throw something out there and the media runs with it, regardless of the validity of it.

If we were able to talk about Obama’s record Romney would be beating the panties off Obama. One failure after another. If you believe the polls, they are in a dead heat. How can that be? Except that Obama has effectively put Romney on the ropes with lame issues like his tax records and that he somehow was a criminal in regard to his tenure at Bain.

What I am telling you, and you refuse to either listen to or, worse, accept, is that the major media is a given. Period. End of story. Up with D. Down with R. That's it. Unless you are John McCain in which case it's Lucy and Charlie Brown and the football, up with R when it doesn't matter and down with R when it does.

From there, what's an R to do? Mitt is THE nominee and gets ALL the media coverage he would like. He can say and do as he pleases. My argument is with what and how Mitt chooses to deal with what is, in essence, the weather. It's a given. Dress in layers, so to speak, so you can simply deal with conditions as they change. Rain, snow, cold, windy, warm, humid. Whatever. This is about the people in the middle who decide our national elections. Mitt, any R, gets more than enough coverage to shape his own narrative. They just choose not to. Mitt ends the tax return conversation today if he chooses. He can do one of two things; release them like some sheepish imp or just say "Newsflash, America! I have done really, really well. That's one of the reasons a lot of people think I'd be a better president than the guy we have!" Or, he can do both and seize the initiative.

To which you will again then pewl "But, then, they'll want more! Mitt is too busy to constantly be dealing with media attacks!" to which I will again say "Then he sure as hell isn't ready to be president if that is too much for him."

I'm not the one saying it doesn't matter. I am suggesting how Mitt could handle the media and in ways I think will solidify him with the right, interest the middle and reduce the intensity of the left.

It's up to a candidate to inspire people to support them.

Obama looked right at that camera and L I E D ! ! !

It's up to a candidate to inspire people to support them.

Have you ever asked yourself why Obama is still so positively popular? After all he has done to further destroy the economy, break promises, destroy the confidence of voters, promoting abject lies, become a wedge president rather than a uniter, have the thinnest skin of any president I’ve ever seen… I could on and on how this president has let EVERYONE (including people on the left)down. Why is he still resonating with voters? Given all of this, he should probably be rating in the lower teens; and the vast majority of that coming from the black vote. How is it is still running neck-in-neck with Romney?

Have you ever asked yourself why Obama is still so positively popular? After all he has done to further destroy the economy, break promises, destroy the confidence of voters, promoting abject lies, become a wedge president rather than a uniter, have the thinnest skin of any president I’ve ever seen… I could on and on how this president has let EVERYONE (including people on the left)down. Why is he still resonating with voters? Given all of this, he should probably be rating in the lower teens; and the vast majority of that coming from the black vote. How is it is still running neck-in-neck with Romney?

Let's cut to the chase, shall we?

Either your fears of the MSM are well founded and Obama wins re-election

Or

Your fears of the all mighty MSM are so much that; your fears, and Romney wins.

I will bet you one US dollar that Romney wins.

Have you ever asked yourself why Obama is still so positively popular? After all he has done to further destroy the economy, break promises, destroy the confidence of voters, promoting abject lies, become a wedge president rather than a uniter, have the thinnest skin of any president I’ve ever seen… I could on and on how this president has let EVERYONE (including people on the left)down. Why is he still resonating with voters? Given all of this, he should probably be rating in the lower teens; and the vast majority of that coming from the black vote. How is it is still running neck-in-neck with Romney?

And, PS, the ONLY reason Obama is doing so well is NOT because of how good he is but, because of how bleh Mitt is.

You are JUST like Grant's Generals when he came East; incessantly focused on what the other guy is going to do to you. EVERYTHING is a reason why our side can't do something.

I'd suggest you quit worrying about two things you can't control; the MSM and, two, what some 40-45% of voters will think NO MATTER WHAT you think should be what they think.

And, further, I'd suggest you start worrying about something you DO control; your vote. We ONLY keep getting dips because far, far too many people are MORE worried about the other side and nowhere near worried enough about what is supposed to be our side.

Let's cut to the chase, shall we?

Either your fears of the MSM are well founded and Obama wins re-election

Or

Your fears of the all mighty MSM are so much that; your fears, and Romney wins.

I will bet you one US dollar that Romney wins.

The MSM sold us Obama. How in the world did he get elected in first place? And don’t give me your Bush=failure schpeel. How did he even win the nomination? He had absolute no experience in anything but community organizing. He admitted that he’s a socialist. Now he actually has a proven track record of ineptitude and abject failure; and yet he is still tied with Romney? How does anyone explain this?

And, PS, the ONLY reason Obama is doing so well is NOT because of how good he is but, because of how bleh Mitt is.

You are JUST like Grant's Generals when he came East; incessantly focused on what the other guy is going to do to you. EVERYTHING is a reason why our side can't do something.

I'd suggest you quit worrying about two things you can't control; the MSM and, two, what some 40-45% of voters will think NO MATTER WHAT you think should be what they think.

And, further, I'd suggest you start worrying about something you DO control; your vote. We ONLY keep getting dips because far, far too many people are MORE worried about the other side and nowhere near worried enough about what is supposed to be our side.

:killingme My vote. That's going to matter in MD :killingme

But thanks for the advice. :buddies:

The MSM sold us Obama. How in the world did he get elected in first place? And don’t give me your Bush=failure schpeel. How did he even win the nomination? He had absolute no experience in anything but community organizing. He admitted that he’s a socialist. Now he actually has a proven track record of ineptitude and abject failure; and yet he is still tied with Romney? How does anyone explain this?

Where was Carter in the polls at this point in his re-election bid??

I don't know, but would be curious to see how they stack up..

The MSM sold us Obama. How in the world did he get elected in first place? And don’t give me your Bush=failure schpeel. How did he even win the nomination? He had absolute no experience in anything but community organizing. He admitted that he’s a socialist. Now he actually has a proven track record of ineptitude and abject failure; and yet he is still tied with Romney? How does anyone explain this?

John


McCain