EmptyTimCup
07-29-2012, 11:52 AM
Researchers Show How Easy it Is for Toddlers to Open a Gun Safe (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/researchers-show-how-easy-it-is-for-toddlers-to-open-a-gun-safe/)
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colt1860
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 5:46pm
I keep my guns out in the open on purpose. I teach children around to never touch a gun withou adult permission and supervision. Then I tell them how to properly handle a gun. I teach them how to safely pick up or grab a gun, and how to check if its loaded. I tell them to always assume the gun is loaded, to point it in a safe direction, and to never pull the trigger unless ready to shoot. I let them hold the gun for a minute so that their curiosity goes away. I tell them that guns are powerful tools and that if not used correctly they may become very dangerous very quick. I point out a few things that might happen if they carelessly ever decide to handle a gun. I tell them to never pick up a gun if at a friend’s house. And if the friend insists on handling a gun to leave immediately and tell an adult. They end up with a better understanding of guns, what guns do, what guns are for, and to not irresponsibly mess with guns. Education is the answer, not propaganda.
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BigJohn451
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 8:17pm
I have been a Locksmith and Safe Tech for 20 years. What they show is very much true with these inexpensive models of safes. I have opened them by dropping or smacking with a hammer several times.
If your going to get a safe spend a bit more and get one with a UL rated lock and a good reputation and it will keep out all but a professional for a reasonable time.
Harvey1
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 8:48pm
I have always done this with my children and grandchildren. Never had a problem with a ny of them.
Harvey1
muffythetuffy
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 8:57pm
I do no believe it nor should anyone with brains. Now we will have an EPA of gun safety. Gun safety and skills should be taught in school beside sex education.
apbt55
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 9:51pm
I keep mine out as well. What good is a gun in a safe when you need it. We have coyotes and raccoons, foxes and other varmint that like to each our chickens and piglets, especially since they are pastured. My six year old has her own 22LR and they know they do not touch the guns, that guns kill and they understand that. Kind of like any tool, better to teach them about it.
chfields62
Posted on July 29, 2012 at 12:55am
If you teach your children proper gun safety and then take them out and let them shoot it, they won’t go anywhere near it again, problem solved! A gun makes a lot of noise, it kicks and is not a pleasant experience for a young kid. That will also take the mystery out of it as well, which once a kid knows what something is/does they usually don’t mess with it after that. We never had a gun safe in the house, the guns were kept in my fathers closet. They were always loaded, however, we were trained from the time shortly after we could walk, about proper safety. He took us out to the range and let us shoot them. I learned right then just how dangerous they could be, I never once went near the guns except when he was around.
As a school kid, I was always the short skinny kid everybody picked on, I was chased home by bullies and even got beat up by the bullies a few times, no matter how much they harassed me or how much I hated them, I never even considered the thought of getting a gun from home and shooting those idiots. That is because I was taught right from wrong and that violence is the first resort of the incompetent and the last resort of the intelligent.
PropstotheGast
Posted on July 29, 2012 at 10:08am
Its great that your kids are well schooled in gun safety. But its moronic for you to leave loaded guns unsecured in your home. Unless you live far from anyone else, have a good electronic security system that calls the police, and dont allow your children or wife to bring friends into the home….sure you can get away with it. But I guarantee you if you are asleep and you dont use a good security system that I could gain access to your unsecured firearm without ever waking you up. In my experience living in an urban environment, my tenants are most often robbed by someone who knows them and has casual access to their home. You would be a sitting duck for on of your kids friends who has a secret habit to feed or a girlfriend he wants to impress.
If you are going to have loaded guns in the home, which I do, the minimum thing you need is a quick access gun safe in a hidden location. I would recommend a complete monitored alarm system and a gun safe bolted to something solid on top of that. I store my firearms inside a safe that is anchored to a concrete floor. I am four blocks from the police department and have a monitored security system which includes motion and perimeter sensors in addition to an internal sensor in the locked room where the gunsafe is. My children have been taught gun safety, but I enjoy friends and family and will not invite guests into a home with unsecured firearms
I have also taught my daughter not to touch the guns - from a very young age ... she is not 7 - now to convince her it is ok to go shooting with mom and dad [in search of a pink .22]
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colt1860
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 5:46pm
I keep my guns out in the open on purpose. I teach children around to never touch a gun withou adult permission and supervision. Then I tell them how to properly handle a gun. I teach them how to safely pick up or grab a gun, and how to check if its loaded. I tell them to always assume the gun is loaded, to point it in a safe direction, and to never pull the trigger unless ready to shoot. I let them hold the gun for a minute so that their curiosity goes away. I tell them that guns are powerful tools and that if not used correctly they may become very dangerous very quick. I point out a few things that might happen if they carelessly ever decide to handle a gun. I tell them to never pick up a gun if at a friend’s house. And if the friend insists on handling a gun to leave immediately and tell an adult. They end up with a better understanding of guns, what guns do, what guns are for, and to not irresponsibly mess with guns. Education is the answer, not propaganda.
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BigJohn451
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 8:17pm
I have been a Locksmith and Safe Tech for 20 years. What they show is very much true with these inexpensive models of safes. I have opened them by dropping or smacking with a hammer several times.
If your going to get a safe spend a bit more and get one with a UL rated lock and a good reputation and it will keep out all but a professional for a reasonable time.
Harvey1
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 8:48pm
I have always done this with my children and grandchildren. Never had a problem with a ny of them.
Harvey1
muffythetuffy
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 8:57pm
I do no believe it nor should anyone with brains. Now we will have an EPA of gun safety. Gun safety and skills should be taught in school beside sex education.
apbt55
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 9:51pm
I keep mine out as well. What good is a gun in a safe when you need it. We have coyotes and raccoons, foxes and other varmint that like to each our chickens and piglets, especially since they are pastured. My six year old has her own 22LR and they know they do not touch the guns, that guns kill and they understand that. Kind of like any tool, better to teach them about it.
chfields62
Posted on July 29, 2012 at 12:55am
If you teach your children proper gun safety and then take them out and let them shoot it, they won’t go anywhere near it again, problem solved! A gun makes a lot of noise, it kicks and is not a pleasant experience for a young kid. That will also take the mystery out of it as well, which once a kid knows what something is/does they usually don’t mess with it after that. We never had a gun safe in the house, the guns were kept in my fathers closet. They were always loaded, however, we were trained from the time shortly after we could walk, about proper safety. He took us out to the range and let us shoot them. I learned right then just how dangerous they could be, I never once went near the guns except when he was around.
As a school kid, I was always the short skinny kid everybody picked on, I was chased home by bullies and even got beat up by the bullies a few times, no matter how much they harassed me or how much I hated them, I never even considered the thought of getting a gun from home and shooting those idiots. That is because I was taught right from wrong and that violence is the first resort of the incompetent and the last resort of the intelligent.
PropstotheGast
Posted on July 29, 2012 at 10:08am
Its great that your kids are well schooled in gun safety. But its moronic for you to leave loaded guns unsecured in your home. Unless you live far from anyone else, have a good electronic security system that calls the police, and dont allow your children or wife to bring friends into the home….sure you can get away with it. But I guarantee you if you are asleep and you dont use a good security system that I could gain access to your unsecured firearm without ever waking you up. In my experience living in an urban environment, my tenants are most often robbed by someone who knows them and has casual access to their home. You would be a sitting duck for on of your kids friends who has a secret habit to feed or a girlfriend he wants to impress.
If you are going to have loaded guns in the home, which I do, the minimum thing you need is a quick access gun safe in a hidden location. I would recommend a complete monitored alarm system and a gun safe bolted to something solid on top of that. I store my firearms inside a safe that is anchored to a concrete floor. I am four blocks from the police department and have a monitored security system which includes motion and perimeter sensors in addition to an internal sensor in the locked room where the gunsafe is. My children have been taught gun safety, but I enjoy friends and family and will not invite guests into a home with unsecured firearms
I have also taught my daughter not to touch the guns - from a very young age ... she is not 7 - now to convince her it is ok to go shooting with mom and dad [in search of a pink .22]