View Full Version : White Male in His 30′s Shoots and Kills 7 at Sikh
cwo_ghwebb
08-05-2012, 11:30 PM
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White Male in His 30′s Shoots and Kills 7 at Sikh Temple In Oak Creek Wis ‘Cause They Looked Like Muslims’, Extreme Right Wing Nuts Strike Again.
White Male in His 30′s Shoots and Kills 7 at Sikh Temple In Oak Creek Wis ‘Cause They Looked Like Muslims’, Extreme Right Wing Nuts Strike Again.
Anti-Muslim haters Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller have for years posted photos of the Muslim Prophet Mohammad with a bomb in his Turban. Sikhs usually wear a Turban.
LA TIMES April 15th 2011 UNSOLVED MURDER Second Sikh shooting victim in Sacramento suburb has died.
The assault on Singh and Atwal came just months after a Sikh cabdriver was attacked in West Sacramento by two men who yelled anti-Muslim slurs.
Extreme Right Wing Nuts Strike Again. « Bill Warner Private Investigator Crime, Terrorism, Missing Persons & Cheaters (http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/tag/extreme-right-wing-nuts-strike-again/)
SamSpade
08-06-2012, 07:36 AM
Not surprised that we don't even know the man's name, but somehow he's described as extreme right-wing. Like anyone has any idea.
I guess the "word is out", and by that I mean, if you think something is true it carries the weight of fact.
Just like in Tucson when Giffords was shot - until we found out later the gunman was crazy and was a die-hard Bush-hater.
Bay_Kat
08-06-2012, 08:10 AM
From CNN
Wade Michael Page, 40, was alleged shooter in Wisconsin temple attack, say multiple law enforcement officials. He was also an army vet.
Source: Wisconsin temple gunman was Army vet, possibly a white supremacist - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
His name isn't in the article, but there's a little Breaking News banner on the front of CNN with his name in it.
I wonder if the info will change again.
SamSpade
08-06-2012, 08:16 AM
From CNN
Wade Michael Page, 40, was alleged shooter in Wisconsin temple attack, say multiple law enforcement officials. He was also an army vet.
Source: Wisconsin temple gunman was Army vet, possibly a white supremacist - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
His name isn't in the article, but there's a little Breaking News banner on the front of CNN with his name in it.
I wonder if the info will change again.
Thanks. Although he has been described as a white supremacist and skinhead, I haven't seen anything that corroborates that - no statements from people who knew him or otherwise.
I think it's weird that someone would go ape#### on Sikhs, because they're as peaceful as the Amish. I would have to think the shooter was either crazy and had no idea who he was shooting, or had another reason.
Folks, look at the area where this occurred. It's Wisconsin, one of the most Tru-Blue states in America (Despite the recent change in administration). Of course, the local police are going to try to paint the killer as one of those flaming extremists from the right wing.
cwo_ghwebb
08-06-2012, 08:29 AM
Thanks. Although he has been described as a white supremacist and skinhead, I haven't seen anything that corroborates that - no statements from people who knew him or otherwise.
I think it's weird that someone would go ape#### on Sikhs, because they're as peaceful as the Amish. I would have to think the shooter was either crazy and had no idea who he was shooting, or had another reason.
Anyone intelligent doesn't have enough information to come to any conclusions at this point.
But then again, after almost three years, the Fort Hood shooting is classified as "workplace violence".
jetmonkey
08-06-2012, 09:42 AM
I learned from the article that if you have a 9-11 tattoo you are teh racist! :buddies:
EmptyTimCup
08-06-2012, 03:55 PM
Seven People Dead in Shooting at Sikh Temple in Wisconsin (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-multiple-people-shot-at-sikh-temple-in-wisconsin/)
OAK CREEK, Wis. (The Blaze/AP) — A gunman opened fire Sunday and killed six people at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee before he was killed in an exchange of gunfire with one of the first officers to respond to the chaotic scene, authorities said.
The shootings happened before 10:30 a.m., when witnesses said several dozen people were gathering at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin for a service. Hours of uncertainty followed as police in tactical gear and carrying assault rifles surrounded the temple with armored vehicles and ambulances.
A crowd gathered outside as officers descended on the temple and some spoke of talking or exchanging text messages with people inside. Some said they had heard there were multiple shooters, others spoke of women and children held hostage.
EmptyTimCup
08-06-2012, 03:58 PM
Authorities Identify Sikh Temple Shooter as Army Vet (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/authorities-identify-sikh-temple-shooter/)
Business Insider lists some of the other alleged facts that have been collected about the shooter:
Bloomberg reports that Page “discharged honorably from the Army in 1998 after six years of service” after serving from April 1992 through October 1998 as a sergeant and later a specialist, working as a Hawk missile system repairman before becoming a psychological operations specialist.
He was was stationed at Ft. Bliss in Texas and at Ft. Bragg in North Carolina while originally being from Colorado. Details about his discharge are not yet known.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that has studied hate crimes for decades, reports that Page was “a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.” They have a picture but we have not confirmed it. Here is End Apathy’s MySpace page.
Prior to Page’s identification, ABC News was already reporting that the man behind the attack was potentially a “white supremacist“ and a ”skinhead.” The suspect’s landlord also told the Greendale Patch that she believes the man had “just broken up with his girlfriend.” As of Monday morning, no details regarding a potential motive were released.
Page was a “frustrated neo-Nazi” who led a racist white supremacist band, the Southern Poverty Law Center said Monday.
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The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) also released a statement explaining that American Muslims “stand with their Sikh brothers and sisters.” - this is a load of crap, to Moslems, Hindus are Apostates - or none believers
:popcorn:
vraiblonde
08-06-2012, 04:18 PM
I think it's weird that someone would go ape#### on Sikhs, because they're as peaceful as the Amish. I would have to think the shooter was either crazy and had no idea who he was shooting, or had another reason.
Crazy people do crazy things. This is what I was talking about, how politics invades every single aspect of our lives. It's entirely possible that this was a mental case shooting and had nothing to do with politics or religious issues. Now CAIR wants to jump on the bandwagon and rouse the rabble.
cwo_ghwebb
08-06-2012, 08:03 PM
Crazy people do crazy things. This is what I was talking about, how politics invades every single aspect of our lives. It's entirely possible that this was a mental case shooting and had nothing to do with politics or religious issues. Now CAIR wants to jump on the bandwagon and rouse the rabble.
For some reason, being in the Army was the first thing that was reported, like he was a trained sniper with PTSD or something.
The reporting is reinforcing something that DHS stated earlier:
the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacksThe reporting I saw from CNN had some clown from the Southern Poverty Law Center on as an expert on hate crimes (same extreme left wing nut group who classifies the Fellowship of Christian Athletes as a hate group).
This dude was a disturbed individual, that's for sure. But keep your politics out of the discussion LSM!
vraiblonde
08-06-2012, 08:25 PM
For some reason, being in the Army was the first thing that was reported, like he was a trained sniper with PTSD or something.
I caught that too. Nope, no media bias here folks! :lol:
EmptyTimCup
08-06-2012, 08:35 PM
I caught that too. Nope, no media bias here folks! :lol:
DHS should be along anytime to remind us;
Homeland Security Report Warns Of Rising Right-Wing Extremism (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-report_n_186834.html)
If you think the conservative "Tea Party" movement is daunting, take a look at a new report issued by the Department of Homeland Security that says right-wing extremism is on the rise throughout the country.
In the report (a full copy of which is below), officials warn that right-wing extremists could use the bad state of the U.S. economy and the election of the country's first black president to recruit new members to their cause.
In the intelligence assessment issued to law enforcement last week, Homeland Security officials said there was no specific information about an attack from right-wing extremists in the works.
The agency warns that an extended economic downturn with real estate foreclosures, unemployment and an inability to obtain credit could foster an environment for extremists to recruit new members who may not have been supportive of these causes in the past.
In November, law enforcement officials were seeing more threats and unusual interest against then- President-elect Barack Obama than ever before.
ThinkProgress notes some key take-aways from the report:
Anti-immigration: “Rightwing extremist groups’ frustration over a perceived lack of government action on illegal immigration has the potential to incite individuals or small groups toward violence. If such violence were to occur, it likely would be isolated, small-scale, and directed at specific immigration-related targets.”
Recruiting returning vets: “Rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat.”
Gun-related violence: “Heightened interest in legislation for tighter firearms...may be invigorating rightwing extremist activity, specifically the white supremacist and militia movements.”
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