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Larry Gude
08-10-2012, 04:42 PM
So sayeth Spike;

Spike Lee said President Barack Obama is "not perfect," but that expectations for his first term "were way too high."

“He was a savior, black Jesus,” the actor-director told CNN's Don Lemon in an interview airing in its entirety Saturday. “Look, I don't care who it was. Expectations were way too high.”

Lee accused Republicans of gridlocking Congress to prevent Obama from winning a second term — "a Congress that's solidified as saying, 'Whatever you do, we're blocking that. We're blocking, and every breath we take, we're going to do what we can that you don't get a second term. Bottom line. And if it hurts America in the process, tough business.'”


How about 'supporters were way too high'?

We can argue all sorts of things about Barrack Obama but, no matter where you stand on the guy, some simple truths exist for eternity;

He was stunningly inexperienced to run much of anything let alone the toughest job in the world. That speaks to an extraordinary level of arrogance, even for a politician.

He was stunningly inexperienced even as a politician. That speaks to an extraordinary level of arrogance, even for a politician, building little resume at any level, at all.

His core values, to this day, unknowns, were not well established as they would been had he run anything, had he spent any real time at any legislative level. It's important for people to know who and what you are to stick with you, to help you. One common theme of all the big Obama mouth piece types; they all sounded like THEY didn't know what matters to him.

Barrack H. Obama will be, historically, the story of arrogance. Now, being a bit of an arrogant SOB myself, I don't automatically reject arrogance as a dis-qualifier. Believing in yourself is good even if it means you've jumped in over your head. That doesn't mean you can't, or won't, succeed.

It just means you ####ing eh well better had.

And that is the other chapter in the Obama book; failure. As for being a black Jesus, man, the last thing the Jesus I was taught was, was a hack politician.

Barack Obama, like George W. Bush before him, had all a president could ever ask; a favorable legislature, both branches. What he then chose to do is on him and him alone. He chose divisiveness, he chose aloofness, he chose to be a lecturer, not a leader. That cost him congress mid term, big time. He leaves the office this coming January with a nation in worse economic shape, more divided, angrier and more frustrated than when he took office. That is saying something and it is, frankly, sad. For us all. And he will leave having lost to a guy not very many people have much, if any, expectations for. And that is said for us all as well.

Support for Obama is what it is; hope and faith. That's about all he has in common with Jesus and that ain't much to run a nation by.

:buddies:

Gilligan
08-10-2012, 04:55 PM
I'm stealing that. :buddies:

FromTexas
08-10-2012, 05:30 PM
To be fair to Spike, I believe he was suggesting that is what everyone portrayed Obama as - not that he was a black Jesus.

He leaves the office this coming January with a nation in worse economic shape, more divided, angrier and more frustrated than when he took office. That is saying something and it is, frankly, sad. For us all. And he will leave having lost to a guy not very many people have much, if any, expectations for. And that is said for us all as well.


Hey! Maybe we can get the reverse of what Spike is referring to.. There are low expectations (Mitt) so we may get pleasantly surprised instead - he may seem much better than he really every might be because the bar was low.

edinsomd
08-10-2012, 05:31 PM
My expectations for Obama pretty much hit the mark- I've disagreed with just about every descesion he's made. Exactly as I expected I would.

blazinlow89
08-10-2012, 06:02 PM
He set the bar high for himself. Can't blame everyone else for his short comings.

twinoaks207
08-10-2012, 06:22 PM
Any African-American being elected as the first African-American President would have faced high expectations, both from the African-American community who saw this as "finally, recognition in that area", and from others who agreed that it was about time that barrier was broken.

What makes the situation so very, very sad on multiple levels is that there was so little thought and care put into the selection of the person chosen for the job. They fell for the smooth-talker, the slick manipulative con with no experience, the empty suit. And, by doing so -- by choosing style over substance, they set progress back an incalculable number of years. This debacle is going to make things so very, very hard on any African-American in the future who chooses to run and might make a very, very good President for our country. Unfortunately for them, they are going to be dragging a ton of baggage that isn't even theirs.

I am still waiting for a time when we are all judged on the content of our character. This episode has done nothing more than push that goal even farther away for our country. And that makes me very, very sad.

Lurk
08-10-2012, 06:45 PM
Didn't someone mention that now the oceans would stop rising, that hunger would be cured, that. . . Well, you can understand why expectations might have been a smidgen high.

edinsomd
08-10-2012, 06:58 PM
Didn't someone mention that now the oceans would stop rising, that hunger would be cured, that. . . Well, you can understand why expectations might have been a smidgen high.

All paid for by Obama's stash.

nhboy
08-10-2012, 07:45 PM
You clowns are just disappointed that Romney is all you got and it ain't much! :dye:

twinoaks207
08-10-2012, 07:50 PM
You clowns are just disappointed that Romney is all you got and it ain't much! :dye:

There are none so blind as those who will not see.:coffee:

Baja28
08-10-2012, 07:57 PM
You clowns are just disappointed that Romney is all you got and it ain't much! :dye:Remember this statement when Romney wins in a landslide. :coffee:

Gilligan
08-10-2012, 07:58 PM
You clowns are just disappointed that Romney is all you got and it ain't much! :dye:

Fair enough. We recognized long ago that a ham sammich could beat Barry, he being such an epic failure. So the fact that Mitt is arguable not doing any better than the ham sammich is indeed disconcerting.

BOP
08-10-2012, 08:23 PM
There are none so blind as those who will not see.:coffee:

I actually agree with nonothing.

Well, even a blind nut finds a squirrel once in a while.

I'm ready to vote for Paul, wasted vote be damned. Mitt doesn't act like he really wants to be president, so my wasted vote might as well not go to him.

FromTexas
08-10-2012, 09:15 PM
You clowns are just disappointed that Romney is all you got and it ain't much! :dye:

Romney is light years better than Obama. :yay:

nhboy
08-10-2012, 10:37 PM
Romney is light years better than Obama.


Romney is a leech.....:yay:

Bay_Kat
08-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Romney is a leech.....:yay:

You love him and you know it. Stop obsessing.

twinoaks207
08-10-2012, 10:55 PM
Romney is a leech.....:yay:

Must be the same Etch-a-Sketch Obama used to hide all of his records.

Bay_Kat
08-10-2012, 10:56 PM
Must be the same Etch-a-Sketch Obama used to hide all of his records.

no doubt

BOP
08-11-2012, 08:08 AM
As long as Romney doesn't cut off my welfare, I'll vote for him.....:yay:

@democratsarewhores.com

SamSpade
08-11-2012, 08:14 AM
Yea, thought that was a little funny too.

Because I am trying to think of how low I have to set the bar before he has shown he's exceeded it.

EmptyTimCup
08-11-2012, 08:17 AM
I actually agree with nonothing.

Well, even a blind nut finds a squirrel once in a while.

I'm ready to vote for Paul, wasted vote be damned. Mitt doesn't act like he really wants to be president, so my wasted vote might as well not go to him.

:yeahthat:

Larry Gude
08-11-2012, 08:27 AM
To be fair to Spike, I believe he was suggesting that is what everyone portrayed Obama as - not that he was a black Jesus.


Fair to Spike or not, if you are running for office and you play into whatever people are saying about you and just let it go, that becomes YOURS. Genius. Experienced. Great communicator. Messiah. Obama never once looked into the camera and said "Look, I am a far cry from some sort of messiah but, I do care and I love children, puppies and a good beer every once in awhile..."

Clinton lived up to his hype; one smart SOB. Womanizer.
Dubbya lived up to his; personable, good natured.

Obama played with fire, fueled the whole image so, it's on him that he can't actually walk on water.

:shrug:

Larry Gude
08-11-2012, 08:28 AM
You clowns are just disappointed that Romney is all you got and it ain't much! :dye:

And, again, just think how much someone has to suck to lose to a guy like that.

Larry Gude
08-11-2012, 08:31 AM
There are none so blind as those who will not see.:coffee:

The Bush Denial Syndrome went on until he was out of office. More virulent strains exist to this day. All sorts of lefties will suddenly 'see the light' once Obama is out of office and the emotions settle. And some, like with Bush, will forever make excuses; the media, the congress, events of the day and argue he wasn't all that bad.

:buddies:

Larry Gude
08-11-2012, 08:34 AM
Mitt doesn't act like he really wants to be president, so my wasted vote might as well not go to him.

Really??? The guy has done nothing but work at it for something like 6 years now. The two years leading up to '08 plus the last four.

That's the one thing I am sure of about him; he wants to BE potus. The question, as with them all, is do they want to DO the job.

Reagan wanted to DO it. Bubba wanted to BE it. Obama wants to BE it.

:shrug:

Larry Gude
08-11-2012, 08:36 AM
Romney is light years better than Obama. :yay:

Yeah? So, four years from now, how do we gauge that?

GDP?
Unemployment?
Price of oil?
Immigration?
Healthcare costs?
Housing?
The DOW?
The deficit?
The debt?
Imports? Exports?

Or will we be making the same sad, pathetic excuses for him we made for Dubbya and the left is now making for Obama?

Light years? That's an awfully bold statement. Care to quantify it?

chernmax
08-11-2012, 08:40 AM
The Bush Denial Syndrome went on until he was out of office. More virulent strains exist to this day. All sorts of lefties will suddenly 'see the light' once Obama is out of office and the emotions settle. And some, like with Bush, will forever make excuses; the media, the congress, events of the day and argue he wasn't all that bad.

:buddies:

The big difference was the liberal news media made sure everything Bush did was front page news including a daily war death count! Obama is doing worse and what's reported is mostly the sound of crickets... :coffee:

Larry Gude
08-11-2012, 08:52 AM
The big difference was the liberal news media made sure everything Bush did was front page news including a daily war death count! Obama is doing worse and what's reported is mostly the sound of crickets... :coffee:

Unless you listen to and read the myriad other sources that DO point out, every day, Obama's foibles, troubles and mistakes. This argument really ought to be put to bed along with the buggy whip. If the msm was ALL powerful, Bush 43 never wins let alone wins re-election. The GOP doesn't take over congress in '10 (or '94 for that matter) and Mitt is behind by 20, not winning by 5. Imagine how far ahead an actual conservative would be if we'd stop fearing the dread pirate msm and just vote for one.

It is said that the devil's greatest trick was in convincing people he didn't exist. The msm media's biggest trick is convincing people they run the show.

:buddies:


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