so a guy kills his buddy while doing donuts behind Salsaritas In P.F.
daddy prolly bought him the truck and he will buy him a lawyer.
but he still has to live with the killing.

Okay.

I know this family personally. The guy that was killed was the drivers cousin as well as best friend. They grew up together and did everything together. He is devastated. He understands his actions were stupid but like someone else said in another thread regarding this, the person who died chose to sit on the window sill of the door and hang out, had he not, he most likely would not have died. The father of the driver is a local football coach who has dedicated many personal hours to mentor the youth today. I absolutely do not condone drinking and driving, nor have they confirmed he was drinking, however every person on this forum has had a drink and driven home. We can all be as judgemental as we want but this boy is living with the knowledge in his head and his heart that he killed his best friend. Nothing anyone can "buy" will take that away.

so a guy kills his buddy while doing donuts behind Salsaritas In P.F.
daddy prolly bought him the truck and he will buy him a lawyer.
but he still has to live with the killing.

Pretty insensitive post dude or dudette. They were related and best friends.
Sadly it was a case of young ones doing something stupid with unthinkable consequences. But young ones always think they are invincible, and most of them get away with it most the time. My thoughts and prayers are with the families in this sad time. I would not want to live with the thought for the rest of my life, if i only hadn't done that he would still be here. JMHO.

so a guy kills his buddy while doing donuts behind Salsaritas In P.F.
daddy prolly bought him the truck and he will buy him a lawyer.
but he still has to live with the killing.

Ok, I'll bite....how does one die doing donuts in a vehicle?? From the limited information it seems a truck was involved, I'm assuming a pickup? Was the guy in the bed of the truck...that would make sense then. If so, some of the fault would have to fall on the person who died.

Having done some stupid #### in the back of a pickup as a teenager, I'm surprised this didn't happen to me....

Ok, I'll bite....how does one die doing donuts in a vehicle?? From the limited information it seems a truck was involved, I'm assuming a pickup? Was the guy in the bed of the truck...that would make sense then. If so, some of the fault would have to fall on the person who died.

Having done some stupid #### in the back of a pickup as a teenager, I'm surprised this didn't happen to me....

dude was sitting on door window... vehicle tips on it's side... crushes dude

Ok, I'll bite....how does one die doing donuts in a vehicle?? From the limited information it seems a truck was involved, I'm assuming a pickup? Was the guy in the bed of the truck...that would make sense then. If so, some of the fault would have to fall on the person who died.

Having done some stupid #### in the back of a pickup as a teenager, I'm surprised this didn't happen to me....

Young Calvert Man Killed in Vehicle Rollover | Southern Maryland News Net (http://smnewsnet.com/archives/20790)

Ok, I'll bite....how does one die doing donuts in a vehicle?? From the limited information it seems a truck was involved, I'm assuming a pickup? Was the guy in the bed of the truck...that would make sense then. If so, some of the fault would have to fall on the person who died.

Having done some stupid #### in the back of a pickup as a teenager, I'm surprised this didn't happen to me....

The one who died was sitting on the door with the window down so he was hanging out of the truck, truck hit a curb, flipped over on top of the guy after he was ejected out of/off of the truck

Young Calvert Man Killed in Vehicle Rollover | Southern Maryland News Net (http://smnewsnet.com/archives/20790)

Thanks. Sounds like Edward Earl May (which is an awesome name BTW), deserves some of the fault here.

Some notes on doing donuts in a vehicle:

1. make sure you are using a vehicle with a low COG
2. make sure you are in the seats, not the window, hood, trunk, bed or roof.

I know this family personally. The guy that was killed was the drivers cousin as well as best friend. They grew up together and did everything together. He is devastated. He understands his actions were stupid but like someone else said in another thread regarding this, the person who died chose to sit on the window sill of the door and hang out, had he not, he most likely would not have died. The father of the driver is a local football coach who has dedicated many personal hours to mentor the youth today. I absolutely do not condone drinking and driving, nor have they confirmed he was drinking, however every person on this forum has had a drink and driven home. We can all be as judgemental as we want but this boy is living with the knowledge in his head and his heart that he killed his best friend. Nothing anyone can "buy" will take that away.

um....i have never had a drink and driven home because for one its against the law. Two im not replaceable and Three im not going to put other people at risk. Both people involved were almost my age. IMO i wish more young people would be mature and think like myself. But that will never happen.

um....i have never had a drink and driven home because for one its against the law. Two im not replaceable and Three im not going to put other people at risk. Both people involved were almost my age. IMO i wish more young people would be mature and think like myself. But that will never happen.

I wish they would too. It is very rare to hear that. Honestly, when we go out, my husband and I make it a point that if one of us is having a drink then other one won't, been that way for 25 yrs. I did mean that comment in general but that is why I also said I do not condone drinking and driving. I just have not heard it was confirmed he was drinking. Thank you for being a responsible adult

Thanks. Sounds like Edward Earl May (which is an awesome name BTW), deserves some of the fault here.

Some notes on doing donuts in a vehicle:

1. make sure you are using a vehicle with a low COG
2. make sure you are in the seats, not the window, hood, trunk, bed or roof.

Shouldn't rule #1 be don't do donuts.
and Rule #2 - You are responsible for all passengers in your vehicle. If they are not properly seated and belted - don't move.

(Rule #1a [supercedes all other rules] - if you are under the influence, don't put the key in the ignition). (I don't know whether this rule applies in this case or not - but probably).

I am truly sorry for the families of all involved. What a huge loss and what a sad thing to have to live with.

Sad, tragic story.

Silver lining; I am happy to note that everyone, so far, recognizes this was the responsibility of the individual driving as well as the person who lost their life. Not one person has blamed cars, indulgent parents, alcohol, curbs or whomever invented the 'donut' maneuver.

There may be hope for us yet.

We all did stupid things when we were young. Frankly, I am surprized I lived through it . I really feel for the Survivor, and having to live with the fact that something so terrible happened. He will pay for this for the rest of his life. His Insurance Payments won't let him forget it either, but right now, that's the least of his worries.

RIP Eddie

I wish they would too. It is very rare to hear that. Honestly, when we go out, my husband and I make it a point that if one of us is having a drink then other one won't, been that way for 25 yrs. I did mean that comment in general but that is why I also said I do not condone drinking and driving. I just have not heard it was confirmed he was drinking. Thank you for being a responsible adult

Though, it seems to me, that there are some folks that, while not being intoxicated, drive worse than an intoxicated person. Just sayin'..

Shouldn't rule #1 be don't do donuts.
and Rule #2 - You are responsible for all passengers in your vehicle. If they are not properly seated and belted - don't move.

(Rule #1a [supercedes all other rules] - if you are under the influence, don't put the key in the ignition). (I don't know whether this rule applies in this case or not - but probably).

I am truly sorry for the families of all involved. What a huge loss and what a sad thing to have to live with.

Like the captain of a ship, as the driver you are ultimately responsible for the safety of your passengers. These weren't rookie teenage drivers either -- 23 is a little old to be doing stuff like this. Lesson learned unfortunately and perhaps a lesson to other young people that this stuff can and does have real consequences. My prayers and condolences to the families.

NO SYMPATHY! Darwin Award Winner!!!! :drummer: :dye: :yahoo:

um....i have never had a drink and driven home because for one its against the law. Two im not replaceable and Three im not going to put other people at risk. Both people involved were almost my age. IMO i wish more young people would be mature and think like myself. But that will never happen.

Agree 100%

The guy is a MORON for assuming everyone here drinks and drives. Friggin' IDIOT!

Shouldn't rule #1 be don't do donuts.
and Rule #2 - You are responsible for all passengers in your vehicle. If they are not properly seated and belted - don't move.

(Rule #1a [supercedes all other rules] - if you are under the influence, don't put the key in the ignition). (I don't know whether this rule applies in this case or not - but probably).

I am truly sorry for the families of all involved. What a huge loss and what a sad thing to have to live with.

What!? Then what the heck are all these fields in Southern Md for??

(On a serious note, very sorry for everyone involved. Teenagers and young adults are idiots, including myself when I was one.)

A live it-learn it moment. Condolences.

A live it-learn it moment. Condolences.

Maybe I'm a jerk or heartless (obviously), but I don't get the condolences. Personally, the people involved got what they deserved.

Like that kid in the texting while driving commercial who says he wants to give up so bad...he should...I hate that kid. Stupid people doing stupid things get what they deserve...and that goes for me too!

I know this family personally. The guy that was killed was the drivers cousin as well as best friend. They grew up together and did everything together. He is devastated. He understands his actions were stupid but like someone else said in another thread regarding this, the person who died chose to sit on the window sill of the door and hang out, had he not, he most likely would not have died. The father of the driver is a local football coach who has dedicated many personal hours to mentor the youth today. I absolutely do not condone drinking and driving, nor have they confirmed he was drinking, however every person on this forum has had a drink and driven home. We can all be as judgemental as we want but this boy is living with the knowledge in his head and his heart that he killed his best friend. Nothing anyone can "buy" will take that away.

The person who was driving also could have made the choice not to do donuts while someone was hanging out of his passenger window.

I am one person on these forums who DOES NOT drink and than drive. Not even one drink! It is against the law for one, and second I value my life and the lives of others to just not do it, EVER. Careful what you accuse others of. Not everyone is stupid.

Maybe I'm a jerk or heartless (obviously), but I don't get the condolences. Personally, the people involved got what they deserved.

Like that kid in the texting while driving commercial who says he wants to give up so bad...he should...I hate that kid. Stupid people doing stupid things get what they deserve...and that goes for me too!

I agree, I'm just glad there wasn't any bystanders get hurt as is sometimes the case.
Really, you don't think this is the first stupid thing this guy has done.
Prolly tore up some fields, where his dad doesn't coach of course.
Just speculation on my part as I know I can be pretty insensitive.

I agree, I'm just glad there wasn't any bystanders get hurt as is sometimes the case.
Really, you don't think this is the first stupid thing this guy has done.
Prolly tore up some fields, where his dad doesn't coach of course.
Just speculation on my part as I know I can be pretty insensitive.

No it's not the first stupid thing he has done, but pretty sure it will be the last and that is a pretty big price to have to pay, dont you think!


Maybe I'm a jerk or heartless (obviously), but I don't get the condolences. Personally, the people involved got what they deserved.

Like that kid in the texting while driving commercial who says he wants to give up so bad...he should...I hate that kid. Stupid people doing stupid things get what they deserve...and that goes for me too!

People involved got what they deserved? Seriously, you are saying someone deserves to die, someone that did not commit any punishable crime?

People involved got what they deserved? Seriously, you are saying someone deserves to die, someone that did not commit any punishable crime?

I don't take his statement to mean they deserved it outright, but rather that it was a consequence of their poor judgement. If you do something reckless and harm comes to you, you suffer the consequence of your poor choices... :shrug:

Not as big as his buddy, or his buddys family.

Look, this guy was holding the reigns, his fault, period.
If he was drinking and over the limit then he should be charged with manslaughter.
If he was just being INCREDIBLY stupid, then prolly reckless endangerment.
Either way, jail time is in order.
This forum is always screaming about drunk drivers but now I se alot of feeling sorry for this guy.
I dont. sorry.

I don't take his statement to mean they deserved it outright, but rather that it was a consequence of their poor judgement. If you do something reckless and harm comes to you, you suffer the consequence of your poor choices... :shrug:

Well the fact that one lost his life and the fact that the other has to live the rest of his life knowing he ultimately is responsible for not just killing someone, but his cousin is horrible enough, to see the insensitive comments is aggravating.

Maybe I'm a jerk or heartless (obviously), but I don't get the condolences. Personally, the people involved got what they deserved.

Like that kid in the texting while driving commercial who says he wants to give up so bad...he should...I hate that kid. Stupid people doing stupid things get what they deserve...and that goes for me too!
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but haven't you just ONCE done something stupid? Yes this kid did, and he knows it, but another Kid is dead, and that is horrible.

Look, this guy was holding the reigns, his fault, period.
If he was drinking and over the limit then he should be charged with manslaughter.
If he was just being INCREDIBLY stupid, then prolly reckless endangerment.
Either way, jail time is in order.
This forum is always screaming about drunk drivers but now I se alot of feeling sorry for this guy.
I dont. sorry.

It was a decision that he will live with the rest of his life. Obviously he knows it wasnt the most brilliant thing to do, but it cant be changed. These two people did everything together, they were best friends.

He has not been charged with DUI, so maybe it would just be better to assume innocent until proven guilty with the drunk assumption.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but haven't you just ONCE done something stupid? Yes this kid did, and he knows it, but another Kid is dead, and that is horrible.

I did alot of stupid things, Manned up to it all.
You really should stop calling this guy a kid.
And yes it is horrible, and thats really what pisses me off.
In all my stupidity, I never killed anyone.
We'll see later if he mans up.

I did alot of stupid things, Manned up to it all.
You really should stop calling this guy a kid.
And yes it is horrible, and thats really what pisses me off.
In all my stupidity, I never killed anyone.
We'll see later if he mans up.

^that.

I did alot of stupid things, Manned up to it all.
You really should stop calling this guy a kid.
And yes it is horrible, and thats really what pisses me off.
In all my stupidity, I never killed anyone.
We'll see later if he mans up.

He is 20 ..... 20 is still a kid to me. Why are you thinking he isnt manning up to this?

Yes it is horrible and it "pisses" you off, can you imagine how horrible he feels? Several of us have done some really stupid things, and it hasnt killed anyone, it doesnt mean what we have done in the past couldnt have killed someone, just just means were were lucky enough that it didnt.

He has not been charged with DUI, so maybe it would just be better to assume innocent until proven guilty with the drunk assumption.



The driver, Thomas Michael Parise, 20 of Prince Frederick, was placed under arrest for suspicion of DUI. The Maryland State Police Crash Team responded to assist with the investigation.


If the police put it in the press release, they must have something to go on. His only presumption of innocence until proven guilty is in the legal system. The public in general owes him no such assumption.

There's a lot that can happen with plea bargains, etc. so there may never be a DUI conviction. But that doesn't mean he was not drunk, it would just mean he was not convicted.

He is 20 ..... 20 is still a kid to me. Why are you thinking he isnt manning up to this?


:yeahthat: It is a scientific fact the male brain doesn't reach maturity until around 25... the female brain does around 22.


Off subject, but that is why armies around the world send the "kids" to the front lines.... it has to do with their "consequences and common sense" connectors not fully functioning yet so they willingly take on more risks.

If the police put it in the press release, they must have something to go on. His only presumption of innocence until proven guilty is in the legal system. The public in general owes him no such assumption.

There's a lot that can happen with plea bargains, etc. so there may never be a DUI conviction. But that doesn't mean he was not drunk, it would just mean he was not convicted.

and yet if you check the Maryland judiciary website as I am sure many have already done, you will note that he was not charged with any alcohol offense. Had he been drunk, they would have at least held him on that rather than allowing him to go home after a short time.

You are right a lot can happen with plea bargains, but usually there is a charge incorporated somewhere to have the leverage of a plea bargain, not necessarily a conviction but at the very least a charge.

and yet if you check the Maryland judiciary website as I am sure many have already done, you will note that he was not charged with any alcohol offense. Had he been drunk, they would have at least held him on that rather than allowing him to go home after a short time.

You are right a lot can happen with plea bargains, but usually there is a charge incorporated somewhere to have the leverage of a plea bargain, not necessarily a conviction but at the very least a charge.

Nope, when a fatality is involved they rarely charge anything immediately. They'll just wait until all of the analysis is done. The lack of any charge today does not mean they won't charge him tomorrow.

Nope, when a fatality is involved they rarely charge anything immediately. They'll just wait until all of the analysis is done. The lack of any charge today does not mean they won't charge him tomorrow.

rarely......even a DUI charge? Why would they not charge that immediately? I can understand any other charge as they would have to have all info and meet with states attorney to formally charge, but a DUI I would think would be a given...to charge with immediately.

rarely......even a DUI charge? Why would they not charge that immediately? I can understand any other charge as they would have to have all info and meet with states attorney to formally charge, but a DUI I would think would be a given...to charge with immediately.

I would think they would have done a field sobriety test on the driver or breathalyzer or blood work or something then and there. :confused: Its too late to do one now. :shrug: I would think they would have done one on the scene or shortly after. They can say alcohol "may have been a factor" if there was an open container in the car or something on the scene. Doesnt mean he was under the influence either. It just means they may have found a beer bottle or something. One does not necessarily always mean the other.

I would think they would have done a field sobriety test on the driver or breathalyzer or blood work or something then and there. :confused: Its too late to do one now. :shrug: I would think they would have done one on the scene or shortly after. They can say alcohol "may have been a factor" if there was an open container in the car or something on the scene. Doesnt mean he was under the influence either. It just means they may have found a beer bottle or something. One does not necessarily always mean the other.

It said he was arrested on suspicion of DUI. I'm sure they then took him in to perform an admissable test. If he truly was not charged at that time, it does not mean he will not be charged.

This sounds like a case of Darwinism to me.

rarely......even a DUI charge? Why would they not charge that immediately? I can understand any other charge as they would have to have all info and meet with states attorney to formally charge, but a DUI I would think would be a given...to charge with immediately.

Because the totallity of the evidence is what determines how they charge him. The DUI charge would be very relevant to any other charges he faces. If they charge him with DUI now they have to give him a speedy trial on that, then another one when they're ready for the rest of the charges.

:yeahthat: It is a scientific fact the male brain doesn't reach maturity until around 25... the female brain does around 22.


Off subject, but that is why armies around the world send the "kids" to the front lines.... it has to do with their "consequences and common sense" connectors not fully functioning yet so they willingly take on more risks.

All military personel are not front line people, they do a pt test in basic and the old farts wont pass it.

I did alot of stupid things, Manned up to it all.
You really should stop calling this guy a kid.
And yes it is horrible, and thats really what pisses me off.
In all my stupidity, I never killed anyone.
We'll see later if he mans up.
To me, a person in their early twenties IS a Kid, but that's because I am almost old enough to be their Grandmother.

To me, a person in their early twenties IS a Kid, but that's because I am almost old enough to be their Grandmother.

It's really just the way some are using the word here.
Like he's a tenny bopper, and maybe we should just spank him and send him to his room, where he can play with his Xbox.

I know people in their 20s who are offende when I use the term around them.

All military personel are not front line people, they do a pt test in basic and the old farts wont pass it.
It was a generalization, dude. I'm referring to the results based on a world study of wars and the psychology of those that are willing to kill and to put themselves in harms way.

DUI = Driving under the influence.

Doesn't have to be alcohol.

It was a generalization, dude. I'm referring to the results based on a world study of wars and the psychology of those that are willing to kill and to put themselves in harms way.

Right you are.
But after training, and then killing, should we still call them kids?

I don't take his statement to mean they deserved it outright, but rather that it was a consequence of their poor judgement. If you do something reckless and harm comes to you, you suffer the consequence of your poor choices... :shrug:

If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough.

Don't forget that the legal age for consuming alcohol is 21, not 20. Regardless if he was legally drunk, can still be charged for underage drinking (assuming the tests show any alcohol in his system at all).

Man, if some of you had kids and this happened to them, I'm thinking you'd change your tune VERY quickly.

Sure the kids were stupid. But we've all done stupid things and walked away fine. They didn't. And it's a tragedy.

I opened this thinking it would be about someone dropping the Krispy Kreams in the parking lot.

Sure the kids were stupid. But we've all done stupid things and walked away fine. They didn't. And it's a tragedy.

:yeahthat: BUT, I would still say he was doing stupid chit and it got him killed.

Man, if some of you had kids and this happened to them, I'm thinking you'd change your tune VERY quickly.

Sure the kids were stupid. But we've all done stupid things and walked away fine. They didn't. And it's a tragedy.

You are right... it could happen to any one of our kids, but I believe even if it were mine that was part of this dynamic duo of dunceness I would still be angry at my kid for either being dead because of a tragically stupid idea or for being the one that killed his cousin with his tragically stupid idea. Having it be one of your own does not displace the blame.

um....i have never had a drink and driven home because for one its against the law. Two im not replaceable and Three im not going to put other people at risk. Both people involved were almost my age. IMO i wish more young people would be mature and think like myself. But that will never happen.

I've also never in my life drove when I've got even one drink in me. But when I was in my early 20's I did some astonishingly stupid stuff, even cold sober. It's a miracle I lived past about 25 or thereabouts. (I'm 69 now.) You're absolutely right. It would be great if young people would develop maturity by the time they need it.

You are right... it could happen to any one of our kids, but I believe even if it were mine that was part of this dynamic duo of dunceness I would still be angry at my kid for either being dead because of a tragically stupid idea or for being the one that killed his cousin with his tragically stupid idea. Having it be one of your own does not displace the blame.

If it was your kid and you came on here and read some of this stuff, you'd be a little defensive... just a little. Let's be real. Sometimes it's hard to put the shoes on the other foot.

The person who was driving also could have made the choice not to do donuts while someone was hanging out of his passenger window.

I am one person on these forums who DOES NOT drink and than drive. Not even one drink! It is against the law for one, and second I value my life and the lives of others to just not do it, EVER. Careful what you accuse others of. Not everyone is stupid.

Not accusing anyone, I was making a statement in general and hoped everyone would take it that way. When I was younger, I absolutely had an occassion or 2 that I had drinks and drove. Pretty much every person I knew did too. After I lost my best friend to a drunk driver, I made a promise to his mom and mine that I would never drink and drive again and I haven't. My husband and I make sure that if one does have even one drink, then the other one drives, has been that way for 20+ yrs. My point was that this kid knows he was wrong and he is suffering the concequenses of his actions in more ways than one. Any driver of any car is responsible for the passengers in their car. Sorry that you were offended.

I don't take his statement to mean they deserved it outright, but rather that it was a consequence of their poor judgement. If you do something reckless and harm comes to you, you suffer the consequence of your poor choices... :shrug:

Exactly, thank you.

Well the fact that one lost his life and the fact that the other has to live the rest of his life knowing he ultimately is responsible for not just killing someone, but his cousin is horrible enough, to see the insensitive comments is aggravating.

If you don't want to see what you call "insensitive" comments, then I suggest you turn off your computer and go outside and run in the grass.

Also, the kid who died was sitting in the window of the truck when it happened so remember that the kid who lived is not completely at fault. The person who died also went along on the ride under their own free will, and if I remember correctly was 25.

Nice to see the internet still shows the stupidity of some people...

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but haven't you just ONCE done something stupid? Yes this kid did, and he knows it, but another Kid is dead, and that is horrible.

I never said it wasn't horrible, I said I don't understand the condolences. And like I said in my original post; yes I have done a bunch of stupid stuff and have been lucky enough that I have survived them all.

These kids had enough exposure to the right way to drive and to act.
The driver knew, by the very fact he possessed a license, that he was responsible for all passengers and to wear seat belts.
His buddy also had the same knowledge. The schools, police and media drown these teens in that kind of info.
There is NO excuse for them to not know.
But then you have all the Jackarse" movies, and idiot videos on YouTube that encourages this deadly behavior.
The driver was 100% percent at fault.
His buddy was just too stupid to say anything, and just went along.

If he were my kid, he would NEVER drive until he was 21. After that, I would have no say.

Stupid is as stupid does!
Sorry the parents lost their son, but it is what it is.

I never said it wasn't horrible, I said I don't understand the condolences. And like I said in my original post; yes I have done a bunch of stupid stuff and have been lucky enough that I have survived them all.

I understand the condolences. Terrible things can happen to good people and even if the terrible things are a result of stupidity you can feel sorry for them and their family just the same.

Look, I have son just about to turn 20. He is a good guy. He is a smart guy. He has a good group of friends whom I adore. Do I ever think him or one of his friends could do something downright stupid that could result in permanent injury of death.... the answer is yep... because by nature that is what young adult males do. They are always testing boundaries. Most times they can quickly pull themselves back over the line when they find they've crossed it... but sometimes they can't.

Did it have to happen? No. But it did. And for that I do offer my true and sincere condolences to the friends and family affected by such a tragic event.

The decision not to immediately charge the driver stems from a case in Montgomery County years ago. A driver was at fault in an accident that seriously injured another person. The police officer wrote several traffic tickets that night for various offenses, and on the advice of his attorney, the driver paid them the next day; in Maryland, paying a ticket is in effect pleading guilty to the offense and paying your fine. When the injured person died a short time later, the courts ruled that the driver would not face any further charges since that would constitute double jeopardy because he had already "pled guilty" to the original offenses.

I don't remember the exact details of the charges, but that story stuck with me because I have done many blood draws for police officers on drivers suspected of driving under the influence. Those specimens are sent to a lab which may take several days to process them. Thus, official charges aren't placed until the lab results are received. I don't think on-scene breathalizer results can be used for charging DUI/DWI; on the scanner police channels, I've heard officers requesting a certified breathalizer operator come to the station. The machines have to be inspected and calibrated for the results to be admissible in court.

As the mother of an almost 23-year-old son, stories like this always make me sad, both for the young life lost and for those left behind. No matter what the circumstances, it is still a terrible tragedy.

I understand the condolences. Terrible things can happen to good people and even if the terrible things are a result of stupidity you can feel sorry for them and their family just the same.

Did it have to happen? No. But it did. And for that I do offer my true and sincere condolences to the friends and family affected by such a tragic event.

You make a good point.