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03-08-2005, 03:30 PM
<div align="center"><table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" bordercolor="#111111" bgcolor="#C9C0A7" width="414" height="66"><tr><td background="http://somd.com/news/inmyopinion/little_back.gif" width="56"><img src="http://somd.com/news/inmyopinion/trr.gif" width="56" height="56"></td><td width="358"><font face="Impact" color="#000000" size="6">In My Opinion</font><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="3"><i><br><b> by Trevor Bothwell</b></i></td></tr></table></div>

The Washington Times reported (http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20050304-095508-9582r.htm) recently that Maryland's Montgomery County public school district has identified three schools that will participate in a new sex ed program. What exactly will this "new" program entail? According to the Times,

Bethesda Chevy-Chase High School in Bethesda, Seneca Valley High School in Germantown and Springbrook High School in Silver Spring will take part in the high school course in which 10th-graders will be shown how to put condoms on cucumbers.

Martin Luther King Middle School in Germantown, Tilden Middle School in Rockville and White Oak Middle School in Silver Spring will participate in the middle school curriculum in which eighth-graders will learn that homosexual couples are the newest American family.

Phew! And here I almost thought that maybe the district was going to propose an education program that was actually different from every other sex ed program in the country -- say, a curriculum encouraging kids not to have sex until they're married, or at least out of high school. Maybe a curriculum teaching that having sex as a teenager can result in the contraction of an STD or an unwanted pregnancy; a program that seeks to actually educate kids about the life-altering consequences of having a baby out of wedlock -- like pretty much forgetting about college, spending your teen years with a baby instead of your friends, and looking forward to a fun life on welfare in a trailer park because you can't qualify for a good job without the academic skills most employers demand. Of course, you won't really have to worry about working anyway, since you have a kid to look after now.

Silly me. Why would I ever even hold out hope that our public schools would take the rational and sensible approach to teaching about sex (if they insist)? After all, liberals endorse abortion-on-demand and welfare-on-demand. If your irresponsible and frivolous lifestyle encouraged by the local school results in unintended consequences, why, just head to Planned Parenthood (pick up a brochure (http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2NSZmZ2JlbDdmN3ZxZWVFRXl5NjM4MzczNCZ5cmlyeTdmNzE3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTQ=) from the school secretary) or to your local unemployment office! This is America!

If our public schools insist on wasting time teaching sex education when it clearly wouldn't kill them to spend a little extra time teaching kids geography, classical literature and the writing process, you'd think that at the very least they could come up with something a little more creative than the old "condom and the cucumber" trick. I mean, the freaking thing works one way and not the other. Even kids who can't read can figure that one out.

But here's the brutal truth: this isn't even about teaching about sex, much less disease prevention and the like. This is about our taxpayer-subsidized government schools indoctrinating our children with leftist ideology that encourages sexual license in society, where we're all free (and expected) to explore our wildest fantasies, especially if that means flashing our proverbial derrieres at those uptight nimrods on the right who actually expect members of society to exercise a bit of self-restraint and personal responsibility.

According to the Times, groups such as TeachtheFacts.org, who support this rubbish, even admit "the new course introduces information about homosexuality that students will find out regardless of whether they are taught about it."

Gee, and here I was almost convinced that teaching sex and homosexuality to kids who have no business even thinking about sex and homosexuality was one of those "compelling state interests" we hear so much about. Even supporters of this program admit there's no need to waste time on these pet projects during the school day.

I've beaten the drum relentlessly about the failures of our public schools academically and socially (see here (http://www.educationnews.org/free-market-the-key-to-school-re.htm), here (http://www.educationnews.org/communism-for-kids.htm), and here (http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050116-025623-1482r.htm)). And now we even have supporters of ridiculous "sex education" programs on record admitting that kids really aren't learning anything they wouldn't otherwise pick up from watching television, talking with their parents, or taking a walk in a park (http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=18109&pid=1093). But, hey, as long as it means our schools can get away with using even more excuses to ignore the most pressing academic (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41278-2004Dec6.html) deficiencies (http://nces.ed.gov/ssbr/pages/international.asp) in our children, apparently that's all that really matters.

Trevor Bothwell is a freelance writer living in Maryland. He is a former Maryland public school teacher, and he has worked as an adjunct instructor at the College of Southern Maryland. Trevor can be contacted at bothwelltj@yahoo.com

Vince
03-08-2005, 03:36 PM
If they were trying to teach my kids that crap I would pull them out of school or at the minimum not allow them to be taught that particular class.

Llwynog
03-08-2005, 04:10 PM
Ya know... I learned more from watching PBS than the sex ed class at school. Come to think of it that was true for some other topics too.

vraiblonde
03-08-2005, 05:28 PM
The best part (you're gonna laugh):

http://www.townhall.com/clog/archive/050306.html#073348PM

:killingme

jazz lady
03-08-2005, 05:46 PM
The best part (you're gonna laugh):

http://www.townhall.com/clog/archive/050306.html#073348PM

:killingme
Oh, the irony. :roflmao:

Vince
03-08-2005, 06:35 PM
The best part (you're gonna laugh):

http://www.townhall.com/clog/archive/050306.html#073348PM

:killingmebut state taxpayers who write the school board to complain of such trash are being censored due to inappropriate content in their emails! :killingme It's so stupid. The morons are trying to be so politically correct and teaching our children some of the most morally incorrect crap I've ever heard of. Where do these azzholes come from? :banghead:

Railroad
03-09-2005, 07:44 AM
:killingme It's so stupid. The morons are trying to be so politically correct and teaching our children some of the most morally incorrect crap I've ever heard of. Where do these azzholes come from? :banghead:
College.

kokopicu
03-09-2005, 08:01 AM
I think the sex ed class is a great thing if it teaches all the pros and cons of the subject. A lot of the kids will be totally turned off once they here about the STD's and see some of the graphic pics that go along with the STD. Most teenagers do not want to become a statistic (spelling sucks I know) so if they are shaken up with the nasty pics of what can happen to his/her genitial if a STD is contracted, they would rather stay away from that happening or at least use the proper percautions for this not to happen if he/she decides to take the plunge.

vraiblonde
03-09-2005, 08:04 AM
A lot of the kids will be totally turned off once they here about the STD's and see some of the graphic pics that go along with the STD. We saw all that in health class - didn't stop us. Kids never think it will happen to them.

DoWhat
03-09-2005, 08:12 AM
Kids never think it will happen to them.
So true.

Pete
03-09-2005, 08:23 AM
The best part (you're gonna laugh):

http://www.townhall.com/clog/archive/050306.html#073348PM

:killingme
:killingme

citysherry
03-09-2005, 09:18 AM
I think the sex ed class is a great thing if it teaches all the pros and cons of the subject. A lot of the kids will be totally turned off once they here about the STD's and see some of the graphic pics that go along with the STD. Most teenagers do not want to become a statistic (spelling sucks I know) so if they are shaken up with the nasty pics of what can happen to his/her genitial if a STD is contracted, they would rather stay away from that happening or at least use the proper percautions for this not to happen if he/she decides to take the plunge.

Sure, this approach will work just like seeing pictures of diseased lungs in school keeps kids from smoking - NOT!

kokopicu
03-09-2005, 09:29 AM
Sure, this approach will work just like seeing pictures of diseased lungs in school keeps kids from smoking - NOT!

And you are the picture perfect person of what a child should do?

Pegster710
03-09-2005, 10:27 AM
Sex Ed, in my humble opinion, does not belong in schools anyway. Certain things, related to health issues, should be addressed in Health class in high school, but beyond that... Middle school children have no business getting school sponsored training on these subjects. I remember having sex ed in 8th grade. What I remember most vividly was seeing the clique of "cool" boys go through the materials looking for explicit pictures of females and female parts - and laughing about what they were seeing.

I remember begging my parents to sign the permission form for me to attend - they did not want me to. They finally gave in. My biggest fear - that I wouldn't be considered "cool" if I didn't take the class. I was afraid of ridicule from my peers about being a "baby". I say eliminate the class - and eliminate the stress. Kids have enough to deal with as it is.

citysherry
03-09-2005, 10:43 AM
And you are the picture perfect person of what a child should do?

Yes, I am.

I think it is ridiculous that schools have “health” classes where teachers have to instruct students that they need to clean themselves and their clothes regularly because they don't want them funking-up their class rooms. Outside of a regular science/biology class, its my job not a teacher's job to explain to my kids what their sexual organs are, how they are used and how best to protect them. This is home training not school training!

kokopicu
03-09-2005, 11:01 AM
Yes, I am.

I think it is ridiculous that schools have “health” classes where teachers have to instruct students that they need to clean themselves and their clothes regularly because they don't want them funking-up their class rooms. Outside of a regular science/biology class, its my job not a teacher's job to explain to my kids what their sexual organs are, how they are used and how best to protect them. This is home training not school training!

Some children are not as privilaged to have a parent such as yourself. Some of the children who are "funking-up the classroom" have parents that could give a rat azz about what happens to the kid.

somdcrab
03-09-2005, 11:04 AM
Some children are not as privilaged to have a parent such as yourself. Some of the children who are "funking-up the classroom" have parents that could give a rat azz about what happens to the kid.

dem ghetto grads now dey is funky :coffee:

Tonio
03-09-2005, 11:15 AM
Some children are not as privilaged to have a parent such as yourself. Some of the children who are "funking-up the classroom" have parents that could give a rat azz about what happens to the kid.
Did you listen to Elliot's show on DC101 this week? A teacher from Charles County said she had a kid who was a major behavior problem. She asked the parents to meet with her to discuss the kid's suspension, and the parents showed up hammerstruck drunk.

kokopicu
03-09-2005, 11:17 AM
Did you listen to Elliot's show on DC101 this week? A teacher from Charles County said she had a kid who was a major behavior problem. She asked the parents to meet with her to discuss the kid's suspension, and the parents showed up hammerstruck drunk.

love me some elliot in the morning~~~~I will be glad when diane is back :yay:

it is parents, such as these mentioned above, why there are some many hoodlums out there doing whatever they want, but that is just MHO!!

virgovictoria
03-09-2005, 11:19 AM
Do any of you know Trevor Bothwell? Just curious.

vraiblonde
03-09-2005, 11:21 AM
Some of the children who are "funking-up the classroom" have parents that could give a rat azz about what happens to the kid.Then instead of teaching the kids how to screw, shouldn't they spend more time teaching them basic hygiene?

Our health classes were just that - basic health, nutrition and routine hygiene. Plus we had the "period" class (for girls only) when we were in 5th grade or something.

Reproduction (in junior high) was just that - basic reproduction. Here's what these body parts are called and here's how they work. No techniques were taught. No condoms on cucumbers.

I think schools should should focus solely on abstinence as the ONLY way to prevent unwanted pregnancy and disease. It's not their place to teach kids how to have sex or about "alternate lifestyles".

citysherry
03-09-2005, 11:25 AM
Some children are not as privilaged to have a parent such as yourself. Some of the children who are "funking-up the classroom" have parents that could give a rat azz about what happens to the kid.

You're right, its the lack of an engaged parent in these kids lives. So the solution should be to have these "don't giave a rat azz parents" attend the class.

Vince
03-09-2005, 11:26 AM
Reproduction (in junior high) was just that - basic reproduction. Here's what these body parts are called and here's how they work. No techniques were taught. No condoms on cucumbers.

I think schools should should focus solely on abstinence as the ONLY way to prevent unwanted pregnancy and disease. It's not their place to teach kids how to have sex or about "alternate lifestyles". :yeahthat: We are promoting a politically correct, morally incorrect society. Can you say "azzbackwards."

jwwb2000
03-09-2005, 12:19 PM
I think schools should should focus solely on abstinence as the ONLY way to prevent unwanted pregnancy and disease. It's not their place to teach kids how to have sex or about "alternate lifestyles".

vraiblonde Quote:
We saw all that in health class - didn't stop us. Kids never think it will happen to them.


So whatever the kids are taught they are gonna do whatever they want :shrug:

cokebear
03-09-2005, 01:19 PM
vraiblonde Quote:
We saw all that in health class - didn't stop us. Kids never think it will happen to them.


So whatever the kids are taught they are gonna do whatever they want :shrug:

I see that someone is out of time out :banana:

vraiblonde
03-09-2005, 01:34 PM
So whatever the kids are taught they are gonna do whatever they want :shrug:Well, it's interesting to note that, out of all my classmates, the girls whose parents were strict on them typically weren't spending their Saturday nights in the backseat of some car.

The rest of the vagabonds who didn't have the parental threat hanging over them...well... :shrug:

So you can teach kids to want something more than ess-eee-ex and parental influence can be pretty strong.

Tomcat
03-09-2005, 01:47 PM
Well, it's interesting to note that, out of all my classmates, the girls whose parents were strict on them typically weren't spending their Saturday nights in the backseat of some car..
They just didn't get caught, or were more comfortable in a bedroom than a back seat :duh:

Triggerfish
03-11-2005, 01:59 AM
In the navy before we pull into Thailand they always showed us STD pictures and stories. The story I will never forget is this. Two sailors pay for a prostitute. Sailor number one does his business using a condom. Sailor number 2 doesn't have a condom so he turns the condom used by sailor number 1 inside out and reuses the condom.............guess who got the clap?

justin anemone
03-12-2005, 04:01 PM
In the navy before we pull into Thailand they always showed us STD pictures and stories. The story I will never forget is this. Two sailors pay for a prostitute. Sailor number one does his business using a condom. Sailor number 2 doesn't have a condom so he turns the condom used by sailor number 1 inside out and reuses the condom.............guess who got the clap?


The prostitute!

Ken King
03-12-2005, 05:37 PM
In the navy before we pull into Thailand they always showed us STD pictures and stories. The story I will never forget is this. Two sailors pay for a prostitute. Sailor number one does his business using a condom. Sailor number 2 doesn't have a condom so he turns the condom used by sailor number 1 inside out and reuses the condom.............guess who got the clap?
They both did, they went back for another round like any self-respecting sailor coming in from months at sea would. :biggrin:

Spoiled
03-15-2005, 04:09 PM
Sex is all over tv and the rest of society, if the schools neglect to teach kids how to safely have it many of them may 'mess up'... I think condoms should be made more easily available to kids who dont have cars... I dont support out of marriage sex, but im not going to act as if it doesnt happen. Its not the 60s where the mom stays home, can monitor what the kids do all day... The parents arent always around to talk to their kids about this stuff either. There are many parents who dont talk to their kids about it either way, they feel its better to let them fend for themselves... If I was to have sex based on what some of my peers says, I would be more than willing to use the pull out method under the impression its almost perfect.... but my education (from maryland schools) has tought me otherwise

stormer41
03-20-2005, 03:02 PM
Kids are going to learn about everything one way or another.
I would rather have them teach about everything, then for the kids to learn it from their friends and get the wrong information....especially about the consquenses of what can happen.
If they don't experiment in high school they'll do it in college and then you have no say in their actions....the famous quote...."I told you so"
can only go so far.

kwillia
03-20-2005, 03:06 PM
Teens who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are more likely to take chances with other kinds of sex that increase the risk of sexually transmitted diseases, a study of 12,000 adolescents suggests. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150902,00.html)

The latest study, published in the April issue of the Journal of Adolescent Health, found that teens pledging virginity until marriage are more likely to have oral and anal sex than other teens who have not had intercourse. That behavior, however, "puts you at risk," said Hannah Brueckner, assistant professor of sociology at Yale and one of the study's authors.

Bustem' Down
03-22-2005, 04:41 AM
They both did, they went back for another round like any self-respecting sailor coming in from months at sea would. :biggrin:
Hey now, as a sailor I take offense to that. Any self-respecting sailor would never pay for the same prostitute twice. Variety is the spice of life! :cheers:

gigglestick
03-23-2005, 10:42 AM
Hey now, as a sailor I take offense to that. Any self-respecting sailor would never pay for the same prostitute twice. Variety is the spice of life! :cheers:

Why pay for something that you can get for free? Never understood why a guy would pay for sex.....

Tonio
03-23-2005, 11:04 AM
Why pay for something that you can get for free? Never understood why a guy would pay for sex.....
In most cases, isn't it because the guy can't get laid otherwise? :lol:

dum_blonde
03-23-2005, 04:54 PM
Okay:

1) Where in those quotations from the lesson plans does it say that the condom-on-cucumber stuff and the like are being taught at the exclusion of abstinence? It's like teaching creationism... the other half of the political spectrum might perceive it as ridiculous and having no place in public schools, but it's at least worth mentioning, given that evolution can never be proven. Along the same vein, it's safer that young teenagers know about this kind of stuff from a reputable source where they can ask questions and things like that.

2) It's sticking your head in the sand to imply that students that age shouldn't be taught these subjects because they have no business thinking about them-- I remember what kind of skank-a$$ hos we had in our eighth grade class in Esperanza, and the rest of us were not entirely uninformed. Treating the situation as though it were the way one would like it to be is a surefire way to solve nothing.


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