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Tomcat
06-16-2005, 12:49 PM
In Hollywood was studied and listed as a Maryland historic building. I don't remember who it was did the study though. Over the years the paperwork has been misplaced. Would you have any idea what agency / organization may have done this study and how I could find a copy of it?
For those who don't know the history, in the early 30's? It was originally a wholesale gasoline distributor/ general store (think very early Burch Mart) It was sold and became the Hollywood Movie Theater (first movie theater in St.Marys County) Walter "Flug" Norris ran a concession stand / bar there and eventually bought the place. Later on he turned it into just a bar, Norris' Tavern. In the 70's? it was sold and the name changed to Hole in the Wall Tavern.
Henry
06-18-2005, 03:47 AM
Elizabeth Hughs and Kirk Ranzetta from 1997 to 2000 conducted a St. Mary's County Historic Sites Survey for the Department of Planning and Zoning. The results of this survey were published in a seies of area specific pamphlets. These are available at the public library.
However to the best of my knowledge the Hole in the Wall building was not included. Perhaps it should have been if it really was the County's first Movie Theater.
jaunxy
06-22-2005, 11:16 AM
My grandmother, who lives in the house left of Hole in the Wall (the one with tons of X-mas lights every year), worked at the concession stand of the movie theater when she was younger. She's been in that house for a majority of her life, so she'd be a great person to ask about Hole in the Wall's history.
Henry
06-23-2005, 03:30 AM
If I just went to your grandmother's house, would she talk to me? What I really need to know is when the first movie was shown. What year.
Tomcat
06-23-2005, 07:31 AM
check your pm
jaunxy
06-23-2005, 08:15 AM
She would most definitely chat with you if you were to stop by, but unfortunately she's in the nursing home recovering from a recent blockage in her leg. Hopefully she'll be out soon since it's driving her crazy being cooped up...she's an 84-year old energizer bunny! (If you do by chance meet her, please don't tell her I revealed her age...she'd kill me).
I'll see her this evening and ask her details about the theater. On another note, there also used to be a general store directly in front of her house on the hill (right next to the blacksmith shop) that they didn't tear down until sometime in the 70's I believe.
Tomcat
06-23-2005, 08:21 AM
check your PM's
jaunxy
06-23-2005, 01:28 PM
Hi Henry, me again. I just spoke with Mom-Mom (my grandmother) and learned all kinds of stuff! Probably not a whole lot to help you out, but I learned family info that I never knew.
Basically, her house on the hill was owned by my Pop-Pop's stepfather, Vince Wise. The store in front of her house (which was torn down in the late 70's) was a general store owned by Vince Wise. My Pop-Pop (Joe Wible) worked at the store, although he did not live in the house with his stepfather and mom...he was raised by his grandmother. His brother, Durant (Frank), did live at the house. He now lives in New Mexico, but my Mom-mom speaks with him daily. When she talks to him today, she's going to ask him about his memories of the old movie theater, and see if he still has any photos. He'll most likely know details, such as when Flug Norris took over and turned it into a bar.
Mom-Mom doesn't recall the exact year that the movie theater was opened, but she worked there before she was married (17-20 years old). That means the theater had to have been open prior to 1940. It was owned by Ike Weiner, a Jewish man, from what Mom-Mom recalls. Her fondest memory of the old black & white movies was a man named Wilson Greenwell who would always hand her a handkerchief before she went in the theater, since they always made her cry (not something for historical records, but it was cool to hear her talk about it). She met my Pop-Pop while he was working at the general store. After his stepfather and mom passed, Mom-Mom and Pop-Pop took over the house on the hill, where she has lived since.
As a side note, Winslow Pump and Well, right across the street from Hole in the Wall, used to be Joe Weiner's (theater Ike's brother) grocery store. A little metropolis resided at that intersection apparently ;-) .
This has been fun. I'll let you know when I hear back from Durant.
Henry
06-24-2005, 03:23 AM
Thanks "jaunxy" for your fascinating information.
Henry
I believe the first movie theatre in the county was in leonardtown "Duke's"
Henry
07-02-2005, 04:50 AM
Thanks for your note. I also thought that the movie theater in Leonardtown was the first and only one in St. Mary's County; but there is no question that the Hole in the Taverne was a movie theater. I am trying to determine
when they came into existance.
Henry
Ehesef
09-29-2005, 09:28 AM
I believe the first movie theatre in the county was in leonardtown "Duke's"
Dukes was a bowling alley. Nook and Monk's was a movie theater.
sunflower
09-29-2005, 09:32 AM
Dukes was a bowling alley. Nook and Monk's was a movie theater.
Sure was. I remember watching a movie with my grandmother a long long time ago.
jazz lady
09-29-2005, 09:44 AM
Dukes was a bowling alley. Nook and Monk's was a movie theater.
My mom used to go bowling at Duke's way back when. I think somebody told me the bowling alley is still up there. I definitely remember the movie theater. I saw "Blazing Saddles" there for the first time with a bunch of drunk girlfriends. :lol: There also used to be a drug store (Rexall?) just up from there with a real soda fountain.
Henry
09-29-2005, 10:09 AM
Dear Ehesef & Sunfkower
You are both correct, but the real problem is nobody has given me or uou any dates as to when the first film was shown at either venue!
Henry
Ehesef
09-29-2005, 10:15 AM
Dear Ehesef & Sunfkower
You are both correct, but the real problem is nobody has given me or uou any dates as to when the first film was shown at either venue!
Henry
The only thing I can tell you is that my Great Grandfather used to send my mom and her brother/sisters/cousins up to the movie theater with a nickel to watch the John Wayne double feature on Sundays. Mom was born in 1955, so I would assume that this was between then and 1965. I couldn't even begin to guess when the first movie was shown.
Jaunxy, thanks for the information, it definitely was interesting. My GF says she knew who your Pop-Pop was; Flug Norris was her Great Grandfather.
wineo
02-24-2008, 10:23 AM
I believe the first movie theatre in the county was in leonardtown "Duke's"
You are correct. The Dukes showed movies in their house, which is across the street from 4 Star Pizza, before there was a "Movie House" friends and family would gather and watch films there. Just some history I know of the family.
caprism
02-24-2008, 11:13 AM
The original movie theatre in Leonardtown was in the building where The Hair Company is. The movie theatre where Nook and Monks (now Cerro Grandes) was - was there as far back as I can remember... late sixties. In the 70's they actually had late night adult films that played there... In the early 80's Rocky Horror Picture show was shown there. I think that was the closure of the theatre. My last memory there was just that... Rocky Horror Picture show... What a hell of a way to close a place down !!!:diva: Every seat in the place was packed.
Sorry but I don't know about the Hole in the Wall history...:offtopic: I know...:popcorn:
:howdy:
I don't know alot about the 'Hole' either except when I used to hang out there in the late 70's, early 80's :buddies:
I do remember the grocery store across the street used to be McKay's in 1965 because I won 2nd place in a coloring contest they had there at halloween that year:lmao: Perhaps Manning McKay could help you with what you are trying to find.
Anyway, Good Luck and keep us informed.:howdy:
toppick08
02-24-2008, 11:57 AM
:howdy:
I don't know alot about the 'Hole' either except when I used to hang out there in the late 70's, early 80's :buddies:
I do remember the grocery store across the street used to be McKay's in 1965 because I won 2nd place in a coloring contest they had there at halloween that year:lmao: Perhaps Manning McKay could help you with what you are trying to find.
Anyway, Good Luck and keep us informed.:howdy:
My grandfather built Manning McKay's store on Hollywood Road,
along with the Leonardtown Firehouse, and the old Ben Franklin store.
:howdy:
wineo
02-24-2008, 12:22 PM
:howdy:
I don't know alot about the 'Hole' either except when I used to hang out there in the late 70's, early 80's :buddies:
I do remember the grocery store across the street used to be McKay's in 1965 because I won 2nd place in a coloring contest they had there at halloween that year:lmao: Perhaps Manning McKay could help you with what you are trying to find.
Anyway, Good Luck and keep us informed.:howdy:
I won a costume contest there in 91, it was an ABATE Halloween party. The goods times we had there in the 80's:buddies:
Still stop in every now and then, same people still there in the same stools:lmao: Do some of them every leave:whistle:
BlueOx77
02-24-2008, 12:29 PM
The Maryland Historic Trust has documentation on the Hollywood Movie Theater, check their Web site. And it was not the first theater in the county, there were already theaters in Leonardtown and even the 7th District.
RoseRed
02-24-2008, 01:01 PM
I won a costume contest there in 91, it was an ABATE Halloween party. The goods times we had there in the 80's:buddies:
Still stop in every now and then, same people still there in the same stools:lmao: Do some of them every leave:whistle:
ABATE used to have kickass Halloween parties there. :yay:
wineo
02-24-2008, 01:05 PM
ABATE used to have kickass Halloween parties there. :yay:
Those where the days:buddies:We even made the magizine pictures, didn't know it until about a year later. I was such a trampy witch:killingme Everyone would go all out for those parties back then.
We get older and things change, can't drink like that anymore:otter:
RoseRed
02-24-2008, 01:06 PM
Those where the days:buddies:We even made the magizine pictures, didn't know it until about a year later. I was such a trampy witch:killingme Everyone would go all out for those parties back then.
We get older and things change, can't drink like that anymore:otter:
I wonder if I know you...
wineo
02-24-2008, 01:11 PM
I wonder if I know you...
Why yes you do, but not by name, if you saw me you would remember. You were married to:gossip: and I have known him for about 20 years:whistle: Before you married him. Haven't seen him around in a few years.
Went to the Firemans Convention a few times, with friends from Hollywood back in the early 80's.:otter::buddies:
I don't get out ofter anymore, haven't been to the Hole since last year, stoped in and played Keno after having dinner at Clarkes Landing with hubby.
Do Frank and Cindy still stop in?:coffee:
RoseRed
02-24-2008, 01:18 PM
Why yes you do, but not by name, if you saw me you would remember. You were married to:gossip: and I have known him for about 20 years:whistle: Before you married him. Haven't seen him around in a few years.
Went to the Firemans Convention a few times, with friends from Hollywood back in the early 80's.:otter::buddies:
I don't get out ofter anymore, haven't been to the Hole since last year, stoped in and played Keno after having dinner at Clarkes Landing with hubby.
Do Frank and Cindy still stop in?:coffee:
My interest is piqued! :lol:
I have no idea who hangs out there anymore. I haven't hung out there for several years, although I have made a few guest appearances. :lmao:
GreenHornet
02-24-2008, 09:23 PM
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