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bbubblyb
07-20-2005, 03:53 PM
Just found out last week that GMP is finally offering cable internet for people that don't have cable TV through them. I don't know how long they have offered this but I was happy to hear it. Hopefully will be hooked up in the next few days.

Danzig
07-20-2005, 04:08 PM
yes, I have had it for allmost a year that way they still GIVE you Chan 2 to 14 or 20 or something like that. I pay the $29 a month but I think they stopped that.

pappascw
07-22-2005, 11:03 PM
You had to know someone to get it up until a few months ago for 29.99 now it's 49.95 for 3.0/384

faamecanic
08-02-2005, 12:58 PM
No kidding.... hummm :confused: wonder if I want to keep my commerical basic account now.

bigluke
08-03-2005, 08:29 AM
Just called last week and it is 49.95 for the internet service only. Didn't have to get the expanded cable with it. Would have preferred to get DSL for the price, but it's not available where I live.

BuddyLee
08-03-2005, 01:04 PM
Just called last week and it is 49.95 for the internet service only. Didn't have to get the expanded cable with it. Would have preferred to get DSL for the price, but it's not available where I live.Does anyone know if it has the bang for the buck? I wouldn't want to pay extra if it's just as slow as dail-up.:ohwell:

Oz
08-03-2005, 08:00 PM
Does anyone know if it has the bang for the buck? I wouldn't want to pay extra if it's just as slow as dail-up.:ohwell:

Just ran a speed test from home: 2700K Download / 373K Upload

BuddyLee
08-03-2005, 11:30 PM
Just ran a speed test from home: 2700K Download / 373K UploadWhat does this mean?:stupid:

Oz
08-03-2005, 11:32 PM
What does this mean?:stupid:


It means web pages download and display crazy-fast, but if I try to send an email it's a lot slower.

Phone line and modem gets you almost 56K up/down so it's a heck of a lot faster than that!

DSL gives you about 768K Down and 384K Upload speed.

geminigrl
08-03-2005, 11:33 PM
It means web pages download and display crazy-fast, but if I try to send an email it's a lot slower.

Phone line and modem gets you almost 56K up/down so it's a heck of a lot faster than that!

DSL gives you about 768K Down and 384K Upload speed.
How do you run a test?

Oz
08-03-2005, 11:34 PM
How do you run a test?


Go to speakeasy.net then the Speed Test is on the bottom right of that page. Then click on the Washington DC link at the bottom left of the next page.

geminigrl
08-03-2005, 11:35 PM
:dur:
I was just asking a question :bawl:

geminigrl
08-03-2005, 11:38 PM
I got this:



Download Speed: 2768 kbps
Upload Speed: 366 kbps


:shrug:

geminigrl
08-03-2005, 11:39 PM
:huggy: Forgive me?:mad:

BuddyLee
08-04-2005, 01:22 AM
Download Speed: 22 kbps (2.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 1266 kbps (158.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Sounds kinda bad. Could the computer be the source of the slowness or would it entirely be the connection?

kelleymauck
08-04-2005, 03:10 AM
I've been wondering about this one myself. We want to change to direct tv but want to keep our comcast internet. can we do that?

SamSpade
08-29-2005, 09:34 AM
Ok, I just went to their site, and it's ....weak. There's just not much content there. A little disturbing for an actual *provider* to have such a skimpy site.

Now I've heard that recently, they've been bought out, and their entire service has changed - a little. So I'm not sure if the web page reflects the pricing schedule, since none of it matches what's been said in this thread.

What I'd *really* like to know though, is, what is the cost of startup?

Right now, I have DirecWay, the satellite internet service from DirecTV. It's been good WHEN it works - and it's not working right now, at all. Technical support is *always* bad. In almost every instance, after waiting forever for a technical support person, we invariably listen to some schmuck walk us through a half hour of procedures that I not only know won't work, but it's obvious he is just following a script - the support person is showing ZERO comprehension of the actual problem.

At this point, I'd be ready to pay even a little MORE *if* GMP Cable is more reliable. Slower or faster is irrelevant if you're getting *nothing*.

What are the startup costs? Last time we talked to them, several months ago, they offered NONE of the advertized costs, told us we'd have to buy our own modem on our own, and told us we'd have to pay startup fees and installation fees, even though we're a former customer, and the cables are ALREADY IN THE HOUSE.

misslady67
08-29-2005, 11:05 AM
I've been wondering about this one myself. We want to change to direct tv but want to keep our comcast internet. can we do that?

DirectTv does offer high speed satelite internet connection...but I don't know that much about the service. Although I have DirecTv for television, I am too cheap for anything other than dial up at home for internet service.

SamSpade
08-29-2005, 11:14 AM
DirectTv does offer high speed satelite internet connection...but I don't know that much about the service. Although I have DirecTv for television, I am too cheap for anything other than dial up at home for internet service.
We've had DirecWay for about a year. If we had another hi-speed option, we'd take it. The connection drops VERY often - we can be getting absolutely perfect *TV* reception, yet still have the Internet drop for no reason at all. This weekend, a DirecTV tech was in our attic - and boom! no internet at all. He couldn't fix it, and tech support has been terrible. Bottom line, we're paying big bucks for a service we're not getting.

In addition - the startup costs are nothing to sneeze at - you have to get a different, larger antenna mounted, and the costs for setup run around 600 bucks. That's before anything else.

One of the concerns I have about switching over is, we've already sunk the money into DirecWay - and to switch, it looks like we might have to sink a load of silly azzed "startup" costs (which strike me as silly, because there's almost no way in hell it costs them anything - and it's crazy to have to PAY to become a PAYING customer).

misslady67
08-29-2005, 11:20 AM
We've had DirecWay for about a year. If we had another hi-speed option, we'd take it. The connection drops VERY often - we can be getting absolutely perfect *TV* reception, yet still have the Internet drop for no reason at all. This weekend, a DirecTV tech was in our attic - and boom! no internet at all. He couldn't fix it, and tech support has been terrible. Bottom line, we're paying big bucks for a service we're not getting.

In addition - the startup costs are nothing to sneeze at - you have to get a different, larger antenna mounted, and the costs for setup run around 600 bucks. That's before anything else.

One of the concerns I have about switching over is, we've already sunk the money into DirecWay - and to switch, it looks like we might have to sink a load of silly azzed "startup" costs (which strike me as silly, because there's almost no way in hell it costs them anything - and it's crazy to have to PAY to become a PAYING customer).


WOW...thanks for the heads up! I was going to explore that option in the future...now I'm thinking uh NO.

SamSpade
08-29-2005, 11:35 AM
WOW...thanks for the heads up! I was going to explore that option in the future...now I'm thinking uh NO.
I wouldn't turn it DOWN if it was your only option. 90% of the time, it's been ok, and if it goes down, it's usually, "honey, can you go downstairs and re-boot the satellite modem?". We have wireless throughout the house, and it's good most of the time. My wife and I are quite a pair, sitting on the bed each with our laptops up and connected. More than once I've emailed her from two feet away.

I just expect more reliability from the Internet. If it can't be 100%, at least the *support* ought to be. Support with DirecWay is *AWFUL*. I've waited on the phone up to 45 minutes to get some twit reading from a book - who subsequently refers me to ANOTHER "expert" that I wait 45 minutes for.

If you have NO OTHER choice - it is still better than dial-up, by far. I just think it's ironic we have never dropped our 15 dollar a month dialup account, because we NEED the connection in the event of failure.

Steve
08-29-2005, 11:55 AM
GMP Cable was just bought out by MetroCast in Maine/NH. I've been calling GMP's service numbers all morning and the "800" line is disconnected while the local line is busy, busy, busy. I wouldn't expect any new service or even current technical support until MetroCast completes the transition.

Our GMP Internet access is always spotty. We had to buy our own modem and the signal drops out many times each day, requiring us to power cycle the modem. One technician recommended we have GMP install a dedicated, second line for the modem, to solve the dropping problem. Right now the data line splits off the incoming cable line and hits a -3.5dB filter. The techie says that the signal from the road is perfect, and blames our older wiring for the modem troubles. We'll see....

But when the service works, it works great! Speeds will be increasing to 4 MBPS once MetroCast completes the transition, according to a letter I received on Saturday.

SamSpade
08-29-2005, 12:37 PM
Steve, do you remember the start up costs? If the number's not answering, I'm probably not going to get a reply by phone too soon.

Steve
08-29-2005, 01:17 PM
Steve, do you remember the start up costs? If the number's not answering, I'm probably not going to get a reply by phone too soon.
No, actually. I went to the GMP Express web page but the prices listed there are old, based upon 1.5 and 2.5 MBPS download. I think I pay the straight $49.95 for Residential Service, though. I don't remember what the install fee was, since we've had it for about 2-3 years now.

marianne
08-30-2005, 11:59 AM
One of the concerns I have about switching over is, we've already sunk the money into DirecWay - and to switch, it looks like we might have to sink a load of silly azzed "startup" costs

I had DirecWay for two years, 2002-2004, because there were few other options at the time. When ComCast came in last year, I switched over. I did lose some money in the startup costs (operations costs were the same) but I was able to sell the dish for $200 by putting a post on SOMD classifieds.

Cable internet is sooo much faster for me than DirecWay was - it was well worth the switch. But I'm looking to switch from Cable TV to DirecTV to get the NFL package back. I don't think I can get Cable internet & satellite TV for the same price I'm paying for both services combined though.

SamSpade
08-30-2005, 01:49 PM
I had DirecWay for two years, 2002-2004, because there were few other options at the time. When ComCast came in last year, I switched over. I did lose some money in the startup costs (operations costs were the same) but I was able to sell the dish for $200 by putting a post on SOMD classifieds.

Cable internet is sooo much faster for me than DirecWay was - it was well worth the switch. But I'm looking to switch from Cable TV to DirecTV to get the NFL package back. I don't think I can get Cable internet & satellite TV for the same price I'm paying for both services combined though.
I take it you do not live in St. Mary's County? Because I presume, you can't get Comcast here, without stepping on GMPExpress's toes?

(I hate that; I've always hated the fact that EVERY cable company is a monopoly. I understand the rationale behind preventing a ton of cabling everywhere, but it also means any cable company is free to screw their customer base).

If the startup is around a hundred bucks, it would be worth it to switch. As it is, I *STILL* can't get DirecWay support to fulfill their promise of setting up an appointment with me within 24 hours. We're on 96 hours, and so far nothing. I can't even raise the vendor on the phone, the one assigned to deal with the repair. All I get is a message machine.

marianne
08-30-2005, 05:20 PM
I take it you do not live in St. Mary's County? Because I presume, you can't get Comcast here, without stepping on GMPExpress's toes?


Correct, I'm in La Plata (Chuck County, close to St. Mary's).

I don't recall Comcast having start up costs. I think we might have gotten the first three months free. We also did Comcast's "dish buy back" (because we still had our TV satellite dish & receiver in addition to the DirecWay dish which I sold) which meant we got $25 off our bill for something like 18 months.

I had the same experiences where it would take me close to a week to get DirecWay to come out to the house. Luckily we only had to do that once or twice. What I hated more was the phone support. I hated that you had to go through an hour of tiered levels of support to get someone with any knowledge. "Yes, I re-booted the computer. Yes, I unplugged the cable and plugged it back in. Yes, I stood on my head and sang the ABC's..."
:duh:

And the straw that broke the camels back was when they dropped streaming radio. That was it!

SamSpade
08-31-2005, 08:55 AM
What I hated more was the phone support. I hated that you had to go through an hour of tiered levels of support to get someone with any knowledge. "Yes, I re-booted the computer. Yes, I unplugged the cable and plugged it back in. Yes, I stood on my head and sang the ABC's..."
:duh:

Yep, KNOW that feeling!

The first big problem we had with that - it was THEIR fault! They sent out some kind of confirming signal for some kind of test, and our signal strength is ALWAYS *maginal* - so when it didn't answer, it just shut down.

My suspicion with the current problem is the satellite wiring is faulty. I am gonna be so p!ssed when they try to charge me for it, but I know they will.

I never considered the option of selling the DirecWay dish on my own - what did you get for it?

marianne
08-31-2005, 01:27 PM
Yep, KNOW that feeling!

The first big problem we had with that - it was THEIR fault! They sent out some kind of confirming signal for some kind of test, and our signal strength is ALWAYS *maginal* - so when it didn't answer, it just shut down.

My suspicion with the current problem is the satellite wiring is faulty. I am gonna be so p!ssed when they try to charge me for it, but I know they will.

I never considered the option of selling the DirecWay dish on my own - what did you get for it?

Yeah, we had a hard time in the beginning because the installers messed up the initial installation. When DirecWay finally realized that, they said those guys were no longer authorized to install DirecWay equipment. I don't know what happened there but someone got in trouble... DirecWay didn't try to charge me for fixing it.

If I remember correctly I asked $300 for the dish and settled for $200. At the time they were listing on Ebay for $300. If you do decide you want to sell it, let me know and I'll PM you the contact info for the guy that bought my dish. It seemed as though he would be willing to buy other dishes as well.


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