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DoWhat
02-03-2006, 11:40 AM
Chevy Silverado Z-71

Recommendations?

fddog
02-03-2006, 11:41 AM
what size do you have on it now?

jazz lady
02-03-2006, 11:42 AM
Get the round ones. :yay:

itsbob
02-03-2006, 11:43 AM
Chevy Silverado Z-71

Recommendations?
Rubber..

Granite doesn't wear very well..

missperky
02-03-2006, 11:44 AM
I just got a set of Yokahama-Geolander A/T tires put on my truck yesterday.

itsbob
02-03-2006, 11:46 AM
BUT since we are on the subject..

FD, bike tires?

120/70 17

Right now running Metzler Sportech M-1

DoWhat
02-03-2006, 11:47 AM
what size do you have on it now?
All I know without going out there and looking, 16in rims.

fddog
02-03-2006, 11:48 AM
BUT since we are on the subject..

FD, bike tires?

120/70 17

Right now running Metzler Sportech M-1
do you want the samething back on it?

Dutch6
02-03-2006, 11:49 AM
B. F. Goodrich.

fddog
02-03-2006, 11:51 AM
All I know without going out there and looking, 16in rims.
get the size and pm me, i'll get ya a price, Bad news you will have to drive to forestville to get them mounted

itsbob
02-03-2006, 11:51 AM
do you want the samething back on it?
PROBABLY.. though don't like the replacing tires every 3 or 4 months, do like the performance.. Don't know much about tires, but have heard good things about Avon.. Just want to be sure my tire's aren't going to slip out from under me when sliding my knee through a corner.

fddog
02-03-2006, 11:54 AM
PROBABLY.. though don't like the replacing tires every 3 or 4 months, do like the performance.. Don't know much about tires, but have heard good things about Avon.. Just want to be sure my tire's aren't going to slip out from under me when sliding my knee through a corner.
i like bridgestone

itsbob
02-03-2006, 11:57 AM
i like bridgestone
Can ya get me a price on the Sportech, and one or two others?? I'm thinking I won't be going with Metzler, but ya never know.

Ponytail
02-03-2006, 11:58 AM
All I know without going out there and looking, 16in rims.

I've got BFG Long Trail T/A's on my F250. I've got 55kmiles on them, and they look like they could easily take another 20k. They handeled the snow in Nova Scotia with out issue, and didn't do too badly in the little bit of mud that I've had them in. Good rain traction. Can't beat them for their long wear though. They're a bit pricey, but dang, if I can get 80,000 miles out of them, it's worth it.

The Geolanders have been around for quite some time and are gaining in popularity. I don't have any personal experience with them, but see them alot here in the 109 Parking lot and folks that I know that have them, seem to like them.

Dunlop maked a good tire for F/S trucks and SUVs too. My mom put them on her Exploder and they've been wearing really well too. Good wet traction. I just don't recall off the top of my head what they are.

fddog
02-03-2006, 11:58 AM
Can ya get me a price on the Sportech, and one or two others?? I'm thinking I won't be going with Metzler, but ya never know.
the purchasing guy is out i will get it for ya And let you know :yay:

DoWhat
02-03-2006, 12:01 PM
Truck Tires 02-03-2006 11:48 AM :sleuthwannabe:
:killingme :killingme
Now that was funny.

itsbob
02-03-2006, 12:03 PM
Thanks..

IF I actually get a refund this year.. doubtful.. will be looking for a complete set for the LR too.. have to get you the size!

itsbob
02-03-2006, 12:05 PM
the purchasing guy is out i will get it for ya And let you know :yay:
Do you mount and balance bike tires too?

I know our members are getting tired of paying dealer prices.. ($260 for rear on my bike) and other then doing it ourselves we don't have many options. May be able to spread the word for you!

fddog
02-03-2006, 12:06 PM
Do you mount and balance bike tires too?

I know our members are getting tired of paying dealer prices.. ($260 for rear on my bike) and other then doing it ourselves we don't have many options. May be able to spread the word for you!
no we don't do bikes

DoWhat
02-03-2006, 01:12 PM
I've got BFG Long Trail T/A's on my F250. I've got 55kmiles on them, and they look like they could easily take another 20k. They handeled the snow in Nova Scotia with out issue, and didn't do too badly in the little bit of mud that I've had them in. Good rain traction. Can't beat them for their long wear though. They're a bit pricey, but dang, if I can get 80,000 miles out of them, it's worth it.

The Geolanders have been around for quite some time and are gaining in popularity. I don't have any personal experience with them, but see them alot here in the 109 Parking lot and folks that I know that have them, seem to like them.

Dunlop maked a good tire for F/S trucks and SUVs too. My mom put them on her Exploder and they've been wearing really well too. Good wet traction. I just don't recall off the top of my head what they are.
Right now I have;
P265/75R16

Do you think it would be stupid to go with;
P275/70R16

A little height and width.

Ponytail
02-03-2006, 01:54 PM
Right now I have;
P265/75R16

Do you think it would be stupid to go with;
P275/70R16

A little height and width.

Nothing wrong with that. I think you'll find though that even that will be a smaller tire in diameter. I'll have to find that website that I have that gives good comparison and measurments. Though most tire manufacturers websites give height and width measurements for all of their tires.

The only thing you have to watch for when going wider (and higher for that matter), is the turn radius. Turn your trucks steering wheel one way or the other to full stop and shut it off while holding it there so that it doesn't spring back. Get out and look to see how far the tire is from the frame and body at both front and rear of the tire. You may have to play with it a little to find the closest point to the body on the wheel well.

I don't think you'll have a problem though. You're not going that wide.

Also, skinnier tires do better in rain/snow. If you increase the size of the contact patch, you're decreasing the p/a, or load over area.

RoseRed
02-03-2006, 01:56 PM
Truck Tires 02-03-2006 11:48 AM :sleuthwannabe:
:killingme :killingme
Now that was funny.
:killingme

I need new tires for my green SUV, what is your recommendation? :lmao:

Ponytail
02-03-2006, 02:01 PM
PROBABLY.. though don't like the replacing tires every 3 or 4 months, do like the performance.. Don't know much about tires, but have heard good things about Avon.. Just want to be sure my tire's aren't going to slip out from under me when sliding my knee through a corner.

The guys over at Buell like these:

Michelin Pilot Powers
Pirelli Diablo or Diablo Corsa
Metsler Roadtec Z6 (for long wear)
Pirelli Scorpion Syncs

I'll be trying the Syncs next. Lots of good stuff written about those for sporty daily driver types.

John Z
02-03-2006, 02:02 PM
I'll have to find that website that I have that gives good comparison and measurments.

Here is the tire size comparison web site I use:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

I plugged in the numbers, and you are right PT, the new tire is about .4" shorter overall. Speedo will be 1.6% too fast. Not bad really.

Another thing to think about is wheel width. Probably not an issue, however, with 10 mm wider tires.

Oz
02-03-2006, 02:04 PM
:killingme

I need new tires for my green SUV, what is your recommendation? :lmao:


Get the black ones - they'll look pretty with the green! :cool:

Ponytail
02-03-2006, 02:08 PM
:killingme

I need new tires for my green SUV, what is your recommendation? :lmao:


My recommendation is that you quit going around corners on two wheels. The tires you have will last longer that way. :lol:

Ponytail
02-03-2006, 02:10 PM
Here is the tire size comparison web site I use:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

I plugged in the numbers, and you are right PT, the new tire is about .4" shorter overall. Speedo will be 1.6% too fast. Not bad really.

Another thing to think about is wheel width. Probably not an issue, however, with 10 mm wider tires.

10mm is less than 1/2". That little bit won't make a difference.

itsbob
02-03-2006, 02:14 PM
:killingme

I need new tires for my green SUV, what is your recommendation? :lmao:
http://cycletires.com/t1.htm

They make different colors for bikes, why not trucks??

RoseRed
02-03-2006, 02:26 PM
My recommendation is that you quit going around corners on two wheels. The tires you have will last longer that way. :lol:
:smack: Fine, I'll go with the whitewalls. :mad:

gumby
02-03-2006, 03:39 PM
Right now I have;
P265/75R16

Do you think it would be stupid to go with;
P275/70R16

A little height and width.


I bought some Firestone Firehawks online from The Tire Rack for $78 a piece. $380 to the door. Old lady got them mounted at her work. I have 40000 on them now and they look like brand new. Best tire I have ever bought. Great in rain, quiet, smooth ride. They're on my 02 Tundra and I take them 100 miles a day to DC and back. I have the P275/70R16 and luv em. :yay: :yay:

teverheart2002
02-03-2006, 07:54 PM
Expensive way to go, but have you thought about 19 1/2 inch wheels with semi tires. We are thinking about doing this for my F-350, and interested if anyone has done this on here. A website that we were given is: www.ricksontruck.com (http://www.ricksontruck.com)

gumbo
02-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Right now I have;
P265/75R16

Do you think it would be stupid to go with;
P275/70R16

A little height and width.
On the new style Chevy and GMC Pick ups you have to watch out for tire to front bumper clearance when you turn the wheels.

MMDad
02-03-2006, 10:19 PM
On the new style Chevy and GMC Pick ups you have to watch out for tire to front bumper clearance when you turn the wheels.
http://forums.somd.com/showpost.php?p=1344899&postcount=21

gumbo
02-03-2006, 11:46 PM
http://forums.somd.com/showpost.php?p=1344899&postcount=21
I seen that..The reason I made my post is because the Chevy and GMC truck only has about an inch of clearance to play with from the factory.
The clearance is only a small problem. It's a little more complicated than the redneck tire gage (turn the wheels see if they fit)
The front end geometry of the new Chevy and GMC trucks are very temperamental because of the long spindles used.
For every tire size you go up the more caster gain you get, unfortunately on the Chevy and GMC trucks they already have a ton of caster gain.
So by adding to it, it causes sever tire wear much like the I beam suspension of the older F-150 and 250.
You can adjust the initial caster but not the caster gain
The caster gain is built into the spindles geometry, so by increasing the tire size you are increasing the geometry angle of the spindle, also by do this you throw off the Ackerman steering and the bump steer geometry thats built into the suspension.
In layman terms. Caster gain is how much your tire leans in or out at the top for every degree the tire is turned.
By increasing the height the more the tire leans.
The more the lean the more the tire wants to ride on the inner or outer edge.
Clearance is the least of the problems..
If the truck is a daily driver do not go over one tire size up on the newer Chevy and GMC trucks and if you go up one size do not expect the same wear you got from the stock size.

MMDad
02-04-2006, 12:19 AM
You've gotten a lot of "expert" opinions, but what does your owner's manual say?

gumbo
02-04-2006, 12:34 AM
You've gotten a lot of "expert" opinions, but what does your owner's manual say?
Not opinion... fact
I build and design race car suspension.
I also own a collision repair shop.

BTW..A owners manual will recommend the same size tire. Your front end geometry is designed for the size tire on your vehicle.
Some designs are just more temperamental than others.

MMDad
02-04-2006, 12:46 AM
Not opinion... fact
I build and design race car suspension.
I also own a collision repair shop.

BTW..A owners manual will recommend the same size tire. Your front end geometry is designed for the size tire on your vehicle.

Relax, Dumbo. I wasn't slamming you.

Without knowing year etc. you can only make an informed opinion. I was asking for what the owners manual says because it might recommend a different tire than either of those he mentioned. If you start with the manufacturers recommendation, you have a lot better reference to start with.

bcp
02-04-2006, 09:43 AM
I do heavy towing so on my I use the Wrangler All season 10ply.

they are rated 10 for snow, and when you only put 60lbs of air in them the ride is not too bad going down the highway. They are also quiet tires as they do not have the standard aggressive tread that causes the noise.

a little steep on price but I have had good luck with them.

I just replaced the two back ones and I think the out the door price was around 450 bucks.

fddog
02-06-2006, 09:16 AM
I seen that..The reason I made my post is because the Chevy and GMC truck only has about an inch of clearance to play with from the factory.
The clearance is only a small problem. It's a little more complicated than the redneck tire gage (turn the wheels see if they fit)
The front end geometry of the new Chevy and GMC trucks are very temperamental because of the long spindles used.
For every tire size you go up the more caster gain you get, unfortunately on the Chevy and GMC trucks they already have a ton of caster gain.
So by adding to it, it causes sever tire wear much like the I beam suspension of the older F-150 and 250.
You can adjust the initial caster but not the caster gain
The caster gain is built into the spindles geometry, so by increasing the tire size you are increasing the geometry angle of the spindle, also by do this you throw off the Ackerman steering and the bump steer geometry thats built into the suspension.
In layman terms. Caster gain is how much your tire leans in or out at the top for every degree the tire is turned.
By increasing the height the more the tire leans.
The more the lean the more the tire wants to ride on the inner or outer edge.
Clearance is the least of the problems..
If the truck is a daily driver do not go over one tire size up on the newer Chevy and GMC trucks and if you go up one size do not expect the same wear you got from the stock size.
:confused: We install camber/caster bushings everyday, and do cut outs on trucks to fix caster :yay:

Pete
02-06-2006, 09:23 AM
Seems strange to me too. I have a GMC K1500 and I have 245/75/R16's. The same model truck also comes with 265/75/R16's like the one sitting next to mine in the parking lot.

I don't know why but it seems that GMC does a run with 245's and then some with 265's. I cannot imagine the front end geometry is different between the trucks off the same production line because of tires size. Seems like it would screw up the efficiency of the line having to match suspension part to tires.

desertrat
02-06-2006, 10:09 AM
LT 285/75 R16 Bridgestone Dueler Revo A/T on my 2002 1500 4WD. One size up from stock.Gave about 1/2 inch more clearance. No clearance or handling problems. Nice tires, but costly.

Pete
02-06-2006, 10:13 AM
I really don't like the smaller 245's on my truck. I checked with the GM dealer and asked "If I go up a size to 265 can you reflash the computer with the new tire size so the speedo is true" and they said no, you have to go to a speedometer shop, so I will probably stay with 245's.

fddog
02-06-2006, 10:30 AM
I really don't like the smaller 245's on my truck. I checked with the GM dealer and asked "If I go up a size to 265 can you reflash the computer with the new tire size so the speedo is true" and they said no, you have to go to a speedometer shop, so I will probably stay with 245's.
a small jump in outer diameter like that will not make a significant difference in speed :yay:

gumbo
02-06-2006, 08:35 PM
:confused: We install camber/caster bushings everyday, and do cut outs on trucks to fix caster :yay:
:smack: Caster/Camber bushings, like I have never heard of these.. :sarcasm:

Wrong ! Would you like to make a wager ?
Let's say you sport around whatever siggy and AV I can come with for the next 60 days.
If you win, which you won't. I will do the same.

Before you take this Double Dog Dare ....Oh nevermind, go ahead and bite on it, this will be fun :killingme

I Repeat.......This is a Double Dog Dare. :killingme :killingme


PS.... See you at the shop for front end geometry lessons. :yay:


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