Stop Beefin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quietcool2006]

As a frequet patron of Monk's,I'm looking for feed-back on opinions for solutions in wake of the fighting and unfortunate loss of life involving a few people who can't deal with problems in a smarter way than they choose.We need to wake up!!!!!!!.It is just a place 2 party........Not a man or woman-hood proving ground!!!! All my Chill Peeps..............Make some noise!!!!!!!!!

[aps45819]

Don't support music/musicans/bars or clubs that feature music that glorifies rape, prostitution, murder or drug dealing.
If you do, expect to associate with people that find rape, prostitution, murder and drug dealing acceptable activities and don't be suprised when these events happen.

Feel free to wake up

[bresamil]

Don't support music/musicans/bars or clubs that feature music that glorifies rape, prostitution, murder or drug dealing.
If you do, expect to associate with people that find rape, prostitution, murder and drug dealing acceptable activities and don't be suprised when these events happen.
vBulletin Message
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to aps45819 again.

[morganj614]

Don't support music/musicans/bars or clubs that feature music that glorifies rape, prostitution, murder or drug dealing.
If you do, expect to associate with people that find rape, prostitution, murder and drug dealing acceptable activities and don't be suprised when these events happen.

:yeahthat: no rap crap :clap:

[Jameo]

:yeahthat: no rap crap :clap:

99 red ballons floating in the summer sky :dude: :killingme

[mAlice]

All my Chill Peeps..............Make some noise!!!!!!!!!


We don't have chill peeps here. Well, we may have had them on Easter, but they're gone now.

[jwwb2000]

99 red ballons floating in the summer sky :dude: :killingme

:dude:

[morganj614]

99 red ballons floating in the summer sky :dude: :killingme

I'll meet you at sundown, at 20 paces :smack:

[vraiblonde]

Don't support music/musicans/bars or clubs that feature music that glorifies rape, prostitution, murder or drug dealing.
If you do, expect to associate with people that find rape, prostitution, murder and drug dealing acceptable activities and don't be suprised when these events happen.

Feel free to wake up
That was beautiful. :sniff: I may cry.

I love you man... :flowers:

[Jameo]

I'll meet you at sundown, at 20 paces :smack:

At the lake? I'll bring the beer :yahoo:

[morganj614]

At the lake? I'll bring the beer :yahoo:

I'll bring the poles :wench:(not a whip, just casting a line) :lol:

[aps45819]

That was beautiful. :sniff: I may cry.

I love you man... :flowers:
I have good manners also :whistle:

[mainman]

At the lake? I'll bring the beer :yahoo:That's 10 paces for those with regular sized legs...:wink:

[Pete]

They play rap at Monks?

[kom526]

Keep your "chill peeps" in PG and Charles county, and end rap night. :yay:

[remaxrealtor]

:yeahthat: no rap crap :clap:
:yay:

[BS Gal]

99 red ballons floating in the summer sky :dude: :killingme
Oh, thanks for that. I just got that song off of my mind after hearing it this a.m. Remind me to e-mail Moondoggie and tell him to take it off the play list.

[Jameo]

Oh, thanks for that. I just got that song off of my mind after hearing it this a.m. Remind me to e-mail Moondoggie and tell him to take it off the play list.

Your welcome! He should play it once an hour and decidate it to Morgan! :yay: :killingme

[jwwb2000]

Your welcome! He should play it once an hour and decidate it to Morgan! :yay: :killingme

She would :heart: him for doing that for her :yay:

He should also play "Brand New Key" once an hour for Kwillia as well :yay:

[otter]

Don't support music/musicans/bars or clubs that feature music that glorifies rape, prostitution, murder or drug dealing.
If you do, expect to associate with people that find rape, prostitution, murder and drug dealing acceptable activities and don't be suprised when these events happen.

Feel free to wake up

:yay:

[slotted]

Where's the beef? :shrug:

[huntr1]

Don't support music/musicans/bars or clubs that feature music that glorifies rape, prostitution, murder or drug dealing.
If you do, expect to associate with people that find rape, prostitution, murder and drug dealing acceptable activities and don't be suprised when these events happen.

Feel free to wake up
For once, you post something I agree with. :faint:

[Pete]

What about "diversity"? Our culture benefits greatly from diversity.

[quietcool2006]

Don't support music/musicans/bars or clubs that feature music that glorifies rape, prostitution, murder or drug dealing.
If you do, expect to associate with people that find rape, prostitution, murder and drug dealing acceptable activities and don't be suprised when these events happen.

Feel free to wake up
You obviously don't get out much!!!!!!!!Don't judge the song by the beat.....Get to know the lyrics.

[Wenchy]

You obviously don't get out much!!!!!!!!Don't judge the song by the beat.....Get to know the lyrics.

Can you post some of your favorite Rap lyrics for us? :popcorn:

[Pete]

Can you post some of your favorite Rap lyrics for us? :popcorn:
For the record all my rap lyrics are law abiding and non violent.

:peace: Pete Diddy.

[quietcool2006]

What about "diversity"? Our culture benefits greatly from diversity.
The crowd IS pretty diverse..........but that does not stop any premeditated violence or any random act for that matter .I have seen all races fight each other for whatever reason they thought was legitimate.

[Pete]

The crowd IS pretty diverse..........but that does not stop any premeditated violence or any random act for that matter .I have seen all races fight each other for whatever reason they thought was legitimate.
I was being sarcastic, I think diversity is a crock.

[meangirl]

I was being sarcastic, I think diversity is a crock.


:killingme

[quietcool2006]

:yay:
You never heard of assaults,shootings and murders in schools,shopping malls,church(during services),other innocent events,including weddings?????.......All of which, I suppose, were committed by rappers or at least while "rap" music was being played in some way,shape or form.Who are u?????????,Rip Van Winkle?????????.....What kind of music did John Lennon's killer listen to?........MUSIC is definitely an influence......if you are weak-minded.That is why I stated that a few people seem to make bad choices and cause a whole crowd to be labled as bad seeds.The majority of US are self guided and not easily led to stupidity by our noses.

[quietcool2006]

:killingme
Mental Diversity is more impacting than physically being diverse.Forget the racial stand point!!!!!!......... A few jerks+ A few more jerks= a whole lot of jerks..........And yes I realize that you are being sarcastic......but the message still applies to all in any situation.

[BS Gal]

You never heard of assaults,shootings and murders in schools,shopping malls,church(during services),other innocent events,including weddings?????.......All of which, I suppose, were committed by rappers or at least while "rap" music was being played in some way,shape or form.Who are u?????????,Rip Van Winkle?????????.....What kind of music did John Lennon's killer listen to?........MUSIC is definitely an influence......if you are weak-minded.That is why I stated that a few people seem to make bad choices and cause a whole crowd to be labled as bad seeds.The majority of US are self guided and not easily led to stupidity by our noses.
By that, do you mean what we snort up our noses?

[quietcool2006]

By that, do you mean what we snort up our noses?
If your mind was a parachute..............You would free-fall to your death!!!! See the math problem in my previous post.You are officially in the equation!!!

[BS Gal]

If your mind was a parachute..............You would free-fall to your death!!!! See the math problem in my previous post.You are officially in the equation!!!
I see no math problem. You can back off my azz immediately.

[MysticalMom]

You obviously don't get out much!!!!!!!!Don't judge the song by the beat.....Get to know the lyrics.

You mean like these? :shrug:

Artist: AP-9 f/ Killa Tay
Album: Headshotz
Song: Some Other ####

I never hearda these fools
I'm quick to murder these fools
Dude if you hop off on this gangsta ####
Study the rules
Or get bloody and bruised
Tied up jacked and kidnapped
My fo thugs wit no love savagely raising big straps
We git em Lloyd
Trigga finga itchy like the hemmroids
Snap you like a poloriod
Somebody better hol'ja boy
Flawless like Roy Jones
Destroy bones on contact
Life ain't ####
Witout some pussy and a bomb sack
Million Dollar contracts
Comin' and goin'
But y'all aint knowin'
Bank account swollen
Picture me rollin'
In the Escalade
High starin death in the face
Heart fulla hate
Puttin work in but aint catchin no case
I got my game tight
Cuz big homey, laced me as a young G
Hungry for my chedda cheeze
Pushin OZ's
Make a profit hoes
Gots to got my name in they mouth
They bumpin guns and smokin murda blunts
When the guns come out
They poppin' please don't shoot
But ain't no git back when the #### crack
Murda man like Al Capone
Bust him wit the big gat
Hit him high
Feel the ride
Aint givin a #### about Genocide
When this song is on
I gotta ride for mine
When the war pop off
Niggas die
Like fay days
Kill em all from the OG's to the Bebe's
When the gun blaze
Like sun rays
Doin drive by's on the run ways
Feds tryin to hunt Tay down
In every town
From Philly to Compton they investigatin
My stomach rounds


[Chorus] 2x
All my niggas smuggle ####
I'm on some otha ####
Like ####in' over the government
My ghetto politic thug niggas lovin this
Leavin u open like a hollow tip
Inside ya nigga
Swollow this
Hollow Hollow

[AP-9]
I don't give a ####
Still lettin off clips
Gimme the mike and let me touch some #### 'till I love
I get a headrush
When the lead go bust
Kickin up dust
Man that's a must
Sometimes on the mike I cuss
Kickin up dust on the mike I buss
I know my people's know who really run
Smokin' up on a Philly Blunt
Slappin' a sucka wit a gun
Crushin' up #### just like Big Pun
North to the East
South to the West
I most confess
I gotta get a piece
Betta yet a hoe can't settle for less
I don't discriminate
Every fake nigga perpetrate
Concentrate on makin' papes
Shakin' fakes in the month of gate
Keepin' em as I contemplate
These high stakes wit a runnin' mate
Takin' it to another climate
For those that ever try to draw me
Rent em off to Bombay
Feelin my way
#### you in the hallway
My rhyme pays
'Sides Bombay
My Do or Die day nigga
Livin it up
Im givin' it up
For my niggas that been tearin #### up
Nigga What

[Chorus] 2x

[AP-9]
I been doin this #### since '89
They still hatin' on debatin' on tryin' to play P-9
I see fakers on then its on
Wanna spray P-9?
All around my neck strapped tough flee
For the niggas that wanna touch me
Tryin' to #### me
Wit' no vasoline
I get the gasoline
For niggas that's after me
5 G's is what I need on the M-I-C
Half a that before I breathe on
Niggas like you get peed on
So speed on
And be gone
To the cut with your fleet on
Or all of your teeth gone
Missin
No description until we bust
And you didn't listen
Rollin' wit the funk I think I bust cuz im thug livin'
Never give in
Nothin'
But takin' the bacon wit no mistakin'
I got some killas
On the pay roll
In day low
When it's time to handle business
Never miss it
Nigga lay low

[Chorus] 2x

[fttrsbeerwench]

It bugs me when dumb shiat happens and you have people whining that it's not fair or the cops are targetting blacks, or that the white girl was drunk and purposely hit the kid in the road in the dark..
It also bug me when someone is killed and people say he deserved it or that he was a POS and it's no loss.. He was someones son. He was a human being and his life was valuable, even if he lived a life that some don't approve of.

QUIETCOOL2006, don't condone the violence or sit here and make excuses. You are asking for trouble coming on here biatching that "we" don't like your hang out, when the truth is, that place sucks and it is dangerous to go there because of the crowds lack of common sense and decency.

Also, I like rap music in general but agree with Aps that the songs that promote violence, and thug living is garbage.

[sushisamba]

:yay:

Guess who's back (3X)

Hey young world... the world is yours
Hey young world... the world is yours
Young world young world... the world is yours
Young wo-ah-huh-huh-huh-urld

This rap here... it may cause concern it's
broad and deep... why don't you listen and learn
Love mean happiness... that once was strong
But due to society... even that's turned wrong
Times have changed... and it's cool to look bummy
and be a dumb dummy and disrespect your mummy
Have you forgotten... who put you on this Earth?
Who brought you up right... and who loved you since your birth?
Reward is a brainwashed kid goin wild
Young little girls already have a child
Bad company... hey, now you've been framed
Your parents are hurting... hurting and ashamed
You're ruining yourself... and your mommy can't cope
Hey, little kids don't follow these dopes
Here's a rule for the non cool... your life, don't drool
Don't be a fool like those that don't go to school
Get ahead... and accomplish things
You'll see the wonder and the joy life brings
Don't admire thieves... hey they don't admire you
Their time's limited, hardrocks too
So listen, be strong, scream whoopee-doo
Go for yours, cause dreams come true
And you'll make your mommy proud... so proud of you too
And this is a message... that the Ruler Rick threw
And it's true

"You know, you know what, you know what, you know what?
We like to party, like to party"
(repeat 3X)

Hey young world, the world is yours
Hey young world

"Yo peep this"

Hey Mr. Bigshot... hey, don't you look fly?
But you don't have a nickle... ohhhh, my my my
You've been fightin again and, you forgot why
Hey kid, walk straight, master your high
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.... because you make your family cry
And all jokes aside, are you in good health?
Hey little boy... now have you really checked yourself?
You're a disgust, you know someone that I can't trust, you'd
steal mom's welfare... and you'd run and buy some dust, and
plus, a must so... bigshot you're not
Your friends are talkin and I'm hearin that your girls are what?
You didn't know? Go steal and rob
And while you're at it... go get a suit for a j-awhh-ob
You see you're actin like this urge is demandin
C'mon, wake up... have some understandin
Society's a weak excuse for a man
It's time for the brothers... rap is trying to take the stand
Believe it or not, the Lord still shines on you deep
Guides you... and he watched you as you grew, plus
past the age of... a little child, that's true
But folks your age don't act like you do, so
so be mature... and put the point to a halt
And if you're over eighteen... I wish you'd act like an adult
Don't live in a world... of hate hate hate
Pull yourself together... and get yourself straight
Men don't steal... hey, most don't borrow
And if you smoke crack... your kids'll smoke crack tomorrow
So be more mature... and kids do your chores
Make your own money... hey, be proud that's yours
You know why, cause that's a man... that's brains no spite
Stayin out of trouble... when it comes in sight
And a man never loses a fight... in God's sight
Cause righteous laws are overdue
And this is a message that the Ruler Rick threw
And it's true

"You know, you know what, you know what, you know what?
We like to party, like to party"
(repeat 3X)

Hey young world, the world is yours
Hey young world...

"Yo peep this...
MC... Ricky... D...
The Grand Wizzard...
and his partner...
and his and his and his partner...
say what?
La-Di! Da-Di! La-Di! Da-Di! (repeat 2X)
La-Di-Da-Di..."

[itsbob]

They play rap at Monks?
Only on murder and fight nights..


Or was it they have murder and fights on rap night.. AI can never keep it straight.. kinda like the chicken and the egg thing..

[Negative Nancy]

The bars are to blame. Brass did the same crap. If all you care about is the $$$$ at the door then the state or county should come and close your doors for good.

[itsbob]

The bars are to blame. Brass did the same crap. If all you care about is the $$$$ at the door then the state or county should come and close your doors for good.
Of course they are worried about $$$ they are a business, and they have to worry about it or go out of business..

The whole operation is based on ADULTS, you have to be over 21 to drink and partake at a bar, so you are dealing with ADULTS.. the adult customers need to suffer for their mistakes and bad decisions.. they should know when they've had enough to drink, they should know not to get into fights.

[Tigerlily]

I would just like to say that in defense of the people that own and operate Monk's that I have never been in there when trouble of that kind was going on. Weds' may have become a problem just as Thursdays were before. I frequent Monk's several times a week and do not feel uncomfortable there just as I don't feel uncomfortable at St. James after what happened there. I don't believe the owners are trying to attract thugs. The music that is played is the music that young 20 somethings like to listen to these days. I have been there on rap night and they play all sorts of Hip hop music. I cannot recall hearing any music that promoted violence, rape, drugs ( other than my personal favorite " I Got High" dedicated to my ex that I play from the jukebox) I don't have any real solutions to offer. If however we start turning away people at the doors based on there color, muical preferences or dress then what will we revert to.

The problem in a nutshell is young men and women with too much attitude combined with too much liquer is a recipe for disaster no matter where you may be.

[Negative Nancy]

BS rap night attracts thugs, drugs and low life. But it brings in the money and the owners care more about the money than you. I understand they need to make money, but when you put that in front of my saftey then it's time to close down.

[Tigerlily]

BS rap night attracts thugs, drugs and low life. But it brings in the money and the owners care more about the money than you. I understand they need to make money, but when you put that in front of my saftey then it's time to close down.


In this day and age there is potential danger in pretty much anywhere you go and anything you do. It all reverts to personal choice. If you don't like the people that frequent certain places then it is best to go elsewhere or stay home. I agree that I would not want to intentionally put myself in a place that these types of things happen. My point is that the owners have made great strides in providing a safe environment inside their establishment. What occurred here was outside the establishment across the street. Does this mean the owners have to police the streets of the surrounding neighborhood as well? Is that not what the actual police are for? In fact was there not an officer in the parking lot all ready when this incident occurred?

[nomoney]

I frequent Monk's several times a week

Do you go to a bar every night?

[Tigerlily]

Do you go to a bar every night?
No not at all. I would say three times a week. Usually Monk's in the afternoon to play keno on Sunday. I went to St. Jame's for shrimp on Tuesday then we stopped at Monk's on the way home for a few games of keno. Sometimes I go to visit D at the Legion it just really depends. Why?

[nomoney]

No not at all. I would say three times a week. Usually Monk's in the afternoon to play keno on Sunday. I went to St. Jame's for shrimp on Tuesday then we stopped at Monk's on the way home for a few games of keno. Sometimes I go to visit D at the Legion it just really depends. Why?

I don't know, just seems like you're always mentioning being at all the local bars like almsot every day.

[slotted]

I don't know, just seems like you're always mentioning being at all the local bars like almsot every day.
Dear Nomo,
MYOFB.
:huggy:,
slotted

[Tigerlily]

I don't know, just seems like you're always mentioning being at all the local bars like almsot every day.
Good point. All I can say is that when my kids are away on the weekends and "D" works I usually go visit him at work. I've played on various bar leagues for years so I have been in just about every single one at least once. It just really depends. I am not a have to stop every day after work kind of person. I just kinda go with the flow. If I want to go out I do if not I don't.


BTW don't be hatin cause you ain't got nomoney :huggy:

[bresamil]

Good point. All I can say is that when my kids are away on the weekends and "D" works I usually go visit him at work. I've played on various bar leagues for years so I have been in just about every single one at least once. It just really depends. I am not a have to stop every day after work kind of person. I just kinda go with the flow. If I want to go out I do if not I don't.


BTW don't be hatin cause you ain't got nomoney :huggy:
I thought you were a part time bartender? :confused:

[sushisamba]

I thought you were a part time bartender? :confused:
:popcorn:

[nomoney]

Dear Nomo,
MYOFB.
:huggy:,
slotted


Dear slotted,

Go get a haircut

:huggy:,
nomoney

[itsbob]

Dear slotted,

Go get a haircut

:huggy:,
nomoney
I tried to catch a glimpse of him today leaving the parking lot to see if he had it cut all ready..

[Tigerlily]

I thought you were a part time bartender? :confused:
I was a part time bartender for the last nine years until Mattie's closed. My last day was April 15th. I can go to Evan's when they open next month but until then I have only one job for the first time in a very very long time.

[Tigerlily]

I tried to catch a glimpse of him today leaving the parking lot to see if he had it cut all ready..
Hey Bob, I went on that website to track that dollar I got the other day. I was the third person who had had it. It made it's way from Va Bch to the base, then to Monk's and then to me. I used it at the Legion so I will have to keep checking to see where it goes next. :lmao:

[itsbob]

BS rap night attracts thugs, drugs and low life. But it brings in the money and the owners care more about the money than you. I understand they need to make money, but when you put that in front of my saftey then it's time to close down.
Did you go to rap night?? :larry:

[slotted]

I tried to catch a glimpse of him today leaving the parking lot to see if he had it cut all ready..
I have to wait because shutterbug told me to.

[quietcool2006]

It bugs me when dumb shiat happens and you have people whining that it's not fair or the cops are targetting blacks, or that the white girl was drunk and purposely hit the kid in the road in the dark..
It also bug me when someone is killed and people say he deserved it or that he was a POS and it's no loss.. He was someones son. He was a human being and his life was valuable, even if he lived a life that some don't approve of.

QUIETCOOL2006, don't condone the violence or sit here and make excuses. You are asking for trouble coming on here biatching that "we" don't like your hang out, when the truth is, that place sucks and it is dangerous to go there because of the crowds lack of common sense and decency.

Also, I like rap music in general but agree with Aps that the songs that promote violence, and thug living is garbage.Please...........for the record,find and highlight any and all of my posts that EXSCUSE or CONDONE ignorant behavior that is being discussed here.Other than that...I agree with you on the complaining when people generalize about who the cops are targeting unless it is proven other-wise.

[quietcool2006]

I would just like to say that in defense of the people that own and operate Monk's that I have never been in there when trouble of that kind was going on. Weds' may have become a problem just as Thursdays were before. I frequent Monk's several times a week and do not feel uncomfortable there just as I don't feel uncomfortable at St. James after what happened there. I don't believe the owners are trying to attract thugs. The music that is played is the music that young 20 somethings like to listen to these days. I have been there on rap night and they play all sorts of Hip hop music. I cannot recall hearing any music that promoted violence, rape, drugs ( other than my personal favorite " I Got High" dedicated to my ex that I play from the jukebox) I don't have any real solutions to offer. If however we start turning away people at the doors based on there color, muical preferences or dress then what will we revert to.

The problem in a nutshell is young men and women with too much attitude combined with too much liquer is a recipe for disaster no matter where you may be.Tigerlilly...............THANX 4 keepin an open mind in this discussion.REAL RECOGNIZES REAL........THANX 4 HAVIN A REAL BRAIN!!!!!!

[quietcool2006]

I see no math problem. You can back off my azz immediately.U REEEALLLLLY need a nice long nap or tall ladder.....This conversation is waaaaaaaay above your head!!!!!!!!!! :jameo:

[MysticalMom]

A math problem for you:

How many country or rock singers have been gunned down in th last 10 years?

How many Rap singers have been gunned down in the last 10 years?

[BuddyLee]

All my Chill Peeps..............Make some noise!!!!!!!!!I see...

[fttrsbeerwench]

Please...........for the record,find and highlight any and all of my posts that EXSCUSE or CONDONE ignorant behavior that is being discussed here.Other than that...I agree with you on the complaining when people generalize about who the cops are targeting unless it is proven other-wise.


I wasn't pointing finger at you... There are many factors that make up the whole scenario.. If this area was more community mindedif young people didn't find the "bling bling " lifestyle so attractive. If, there were more to do in this area than get drunk four nights a week, or sell dope, or carry a gun to be cool or because you're afraid.

I'm not wrong, I've seen it first hand. I have spent a long while separating myself from it.. Your original post was trying to make a case for places like that, for the people who caused it. There's no excuse.

[itsbob]

Tigerlilly...............THANX 4 keepin an open mind in this discussion.REAL RECOGNIZES REAL........THANX 4 HAVIN A REAL BRAIN!!!!!!
Real Recognizes Real?? WTF? Are you in 6th grade?

[Tigerlily]

Real Recognizes Real?? WTF? Are you in 6th grade?
I'm not in sixth grade and my boobies are real :whistle:

[MysticalMom]

my boobies are real :whistle:

I can vouch for that. And they're nice ones too. :yay:

[juggy4805]

Why is every one blaming the artist for using violence in lyrics. That is whats demanded of them. There are tons of positive rap out there. Do you think the people who hold the power of promotion will promote that type of rap? No. Why would they? It is all about money in the end. Why should a rapper stay positive and stay broke? Violent music is entertainment and nothing more. Tom Cruise makes violent movies all the time. No one is complaining about him. Don't blame the artist. Blame the stupid person that tries to make entertainment, a reality. I am in no way condoning thugs, drug dealers or disrespect towards anyone. I am just saying. Violence is every where. The Sopranos to CSI. It is all about money. All of this is run by major corporations. Don't hate an artist for doing what he needs to do to make a better life for his family.

[juggy4805]

Real Recognizes Real?? WTF? Are you in 6th grade?


You bash him for saying real recognizes real and then you write WTF? Come on man :nono:

[BuddyLee]

Why is every one blaming the artist for using violence in lyrics. That is whats demanded of them. There are tons of positive rap out there. Do you think the people who hold the power of promotion will promote that type of rap? No. Why would they? It is all about money in the end. Why should a rapper stay positive and stay broke? Violent music is entertainment and nothing more. Tom Cruise makes violent movies all the time. No one is complaining about him. Don't blame the artist. Blame the stupid person that tries to make entertainment, a reality. I am in no way condoning thugs, drug dealers or disrespect towards anyone. I am just saying. Violence is every where. The Sopranos to CSI. It is all about money. All of this is run by major corporations. Don't hate an artist for doing what he needs to do to make a better life for his family.:shortbus: Pimpin' ain't easy, especially when you're trying to promote such 'entertainment'.

In trying to do what you want or what you think is right you also do many other things which you do not mean to do, your initial act is not pure, it has costs.

From Levinas:

"The comedy begins with the simplest of our movements, each of which carries with it an inevitable awkwardness. In putting out my hand to approach a chair, I have creased the sleeve of my jacket. I have scratched the floor, I have dropped the ash from my cigarette. In doing that which I wanted to do, I have done so many things I did not want. The act has not been pure, for I have left some traces. In wiping out these traces, I have left others. Sherlock Holmes will apply his science to this irreducible coarseness of each of my initiatives and thereby, the comedy may well turn tragic. When the awkwardness of the act turns against the goal pursued, we are at the height of tragedy."

[juggy4805]

:shortbus: Pimpin' ain't easy, especially when you're trying to promote such 'entertainment'.

In trying to do what you want or what you think is right you also do many other things which you do not mean to do, your initial act is not pure, it has costs.

From Levinas:

"The comedy begins with the simplest of our movements, each of which carries with it an inevitable awkwardness. In putting out my hand to approach a chair, I have creased the sleeve of my jacket. I have scratched the floor, I have dropped the ash from my cigarette. In doing that which I wanted to do, I have done so many things I did not want. The act has not been pure, for I have left some traces. In wiping out these traces, I have left others. Sherlock Holmes will apply his science to this irreducible coarseness of each of my initiatives and thereby, the comedy may well turn tragic. When the awkwardness of the act turns against the goal pursued, we are at the height of tragedy."


So if Hip Hop was all positive, there would be no violence in the streets?

[BuddyLee]

So if Hip Hop was all positive, there would be no violence in the streets?No, it's not just hip-hop as you exemplified. However, if all I'm listening to is...poppin' a cap in my wigga's crown...I might have a greater tendency to do that. Television and movies are part of the problem, I just don't see them playing in night clubs or Monk's for that matter.

[Toxick]

Am I to conclude that "beefin'" is unseemly?

[juggy4805]

No, it's not just hip-hop as you exemplified. However, if all I'm listening to is...poppin' a cap in my wigga's crown...I might have a greater tendency to do that. Television and movies are part of the problem, I just don't see them playing in night clubs or Monk's for that matter.

I agree, but if Monk's didn't play rap music at all, bad things would still happen.

[juggy4805]

Am I to conclude that "beefin'" is unseemly?

Yes you are.

[BuddyLee]

I agree, but if Monk's didn't play rap music at all, bad things would still happen.Undoubtedly. I also think there's a slight tendency that something might happen if all the juices of the music are flowing towards that direction.

[Toxick]

Yes you are.

Thanks.

Then, I will no longer beef.




Unless that means I will no longer EAT beef - in which case I will continue beefin', cause I like steak, burgers, and Jerrys Subs.

[juggy4805]

Thanks.

Then, I will no longer beef.




Unless that means I will no longer EAT beef - in which case I will continue beefin', cause I like steak, burgers, and Jerrys Subs.



Pompous.................. :really:

[Somdmommy]

Undoubtedly. I also think there's a slight tendency that something might happen if all the juices of the music are flowing towards that direction.


:yeahthat: I agree: Its just like when your in your car and a song comes on, and makes you want to drive fast!!!!

[aps45819]

I agree, but if Monk's didn't play rap music at all, bad things would still happen.
True, but not at Monks

[MysticalMom]

I agree, but if Monk's didn't play rap music at all, bad things would still happen.

I've lived in the Ridge/St Inigoes area for almost my entire life. I can honestly tell you that we didn't have those kind of problems at Monks until they started Wednesday Night Rap nights.

[fttrsbeerwench]

I agree..
I went there alot back when it was Razzberries.. I can't recall one fight. I can't recall alot of things...:otter:

[MysticalMom]

I agree..
I went there alot back when it was Razzberries.. I can't recall one fight. I can't recall alot of things...:otter:

:roflmao: I 've had many nights like that in Monks. :alkies:

[quietcool2006]

A math problem for you:

How many country or rock singers have been gunned down in th last 10 years?

How many Rap singers have been gunned down in the last 10 years?
ANSWER:WAYYYY MORE RAPPERS ARE GUNNED DOWN THAN COUNTRY OR ROCK SINGERS........NEW MATH PROBLEM 4 U:INSERT THE WORD"OVERDOSE" IN PLACE OF "GUNNED DOWN".......AND FOR A BONUS......GIVE ME THE DEMOGRAPHICS ON "WHO" IS ACTUALLY BUYING HIP HOP MUSIC ON A RETAIL LEVEL?..........WHO CALLS THE SHOTS.....(NO PUN INTENDED)AT MOST OF THE RECORD LABELS?????SIMPLE RULES OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND APPLY HERE.NOT SAYING OR JUSTIFYING STUPIDITY...........LET'S BE REAL......IT IS WHAT IT IS.I LOVE HIP HOP AS WELL AS MOST OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC.....EXCEPT COUNTRY.I'VE MADE RECORDS ,PERFORMED IN SHOWS AND HUNG OUT WITH ALL TYPES OF ENTERTAINERS......FROM ALL GENRES OF MUSIC.TRUST ME,STEREOTYPES GET CRUSHED REAL FAST WHEN YOU SEE WHAT GOES ON WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE OFF AND THE CURTAINS ARE CLOSED.IF PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLES CULTURE,IT IS REAL EASY TO GENERALIZE AND MAKE FALSE ASSUMPTIONS.........SOME OF BEST FRIENDS ARE ROCK-STARS!!!!!!!!!

[MysticalMom]

ANSWER:WAYYYY MORE RAPPERS ARE GUNNED DOWN THAN COUNTRY OR ROCK SINGERS........NEW MATH PROBLEM 4 U:INSERT THE WORD"OVERDOSE" IN PLACE OF "GUNNED DOWN".......AND FOR A BONUS......GIVE ME THE DEMOGRAPHICS ON "WHO" IS ACTUALLY BUYING HIP HOP MUSIC ON A RETAIL LEVEL?..........WHO CALLS THE SHOTS.....(NO PUN INTENDED)AT MOST OF THE RECORD LABELS?????SIMPLE RULES OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND APPLY HERE.NOT SAYING OR JUSTIFYING STUPIDITY...........LET'S BE REAL......IT IS WHAT IT IS.I LOVE HIP HOP AS WELL AS MOST OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC.....EXCEPT COUNTRY.I'VE MADE RECORDS ,PERFORMED IN SHOWS AND HUNG OUT WITH ALL TYPES OF ENTERTAINERS......FROM ALL GENRES OF MUSIC.TRUST ME,STEREOTYPES GET CRUSHED REAL FAST WHEN YOU SEE WHAT GOES ON WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE OFF AND THE CURTAINS ARE CLOSED.IF PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLES CULTURE,IT IS REAL EASY TO GENERALIZE AND MAKE FALSE ASSUMPTIONS.........SOME OF BEST FRIENDS ARE ROCK-STARS!!!!!!!!!

Why are you yelling at me? :shrug: I just asked a simple question.

I tried..I really did..but I have no idea what you are trying to say to me here. :jameo:

[quietcool2006]

I've lived in the Ridge/St Inigoes area for almost my entire life. I can honestly tell you that we didn't have those kind of problems at Monks until they started Wednesday Night Rap nights.
There is no "rap" night on Wed. nights.It is just a club night with other music.....not just rap being played as well.However...there are all races in attendance every week..............Maybe they are all undercover rappers and want to meet at a place where they can have a comming out party.You probably think the U.S. can solve the illegal alien issues by shutting down Taco Bell too.I got love 4 u MysticalMom........but I gotta keep it real with u. :deadhorse :deadhorse

[quietcool2006]

Why are you yelling at me? :shrug: I just asked a simple question.

I tried..I really did..but I have no idea what you are trying to say to me here. :jameo:
Not yellin at u......CAPSLOCK was left on inadvertantly..........Now if,you would,...........answer the questions,please. :peace:

[BuddyLee]

I always knew MysticalMom didn't keep it real...now I have proof.:bunny:

[MysticalMom]

There is no "rap" night on Wed. nights.It is just a club night with other music.....not just rap being played as well.However...there are all races in attendance every week..............Maybe they are all undercover rappers and want to meet at a place where they can have a comming out party.You probably think the U.S. can solve the illegal alien issues by shutting down Taco Bell too.I got love 4 u MysticalMom........but I gotta keep it real with u. :deadhorse :deadhorse

First of all it has nothing at all to do with race for me. Never has. I don't give a flying shiat if people are white, black, red purple, or blue with little pink polka dots. And frankly it pisses me off when people pull the race card. It's old already. We're talking about MUSIC that breeds violence. And you'll never make me change my mind about the fact that alot of rap breeds violence.

Ok..maybe it's not officially "rap" night...but that's 90% of what they play on Wednesday nights.

As for the rest of what you said...WTF are you talking about? Everybody knows we need those illegals to cut our grass thank you very much.

[MysticalMom]

I always knew MysticalMom didn't keep it real...now I have proof.:bunny:

:love:

[quietcool2006]

I wasn't pointing finger at you... There are many factors that make up the whole scenario.. If this area was more community mindedif young people didn't find the "bling bling " lifestyle so attractive. If, there were more to do in this area than get drunk four nights a week, or sell dope, or carry a gun to be cool or because you're afraid.

I'm not wrong, I've seen it first hand. I have spent a long while separating myself from it.. Your original post was trying to make a case for places like that, for the people who caused it. There's no excuse. :killingme
Is this all you think there is to do in this area????Just who do you think it is that makes up this fantasy community????.........IF "if" was a drink,we'd all be drunk by now.I'm curious as to what your definition of the"bling-bling" lifestyle is.Feel free to point your finger if you have to.

[BuddyLee]

I'm starting to wonder if that bullet was intended for somebody else.:confused:

[quietcool2006]

First of all it has nothing at all to do with race for me. Never has. I don't give a flying shiat if people are white, black, red purple, or blue with little pink polka dots. And frankly it pisses me off when people pull the race card. It's old already. We're talking about MUSIC that breeds violence. And you'll never make me change my mind about the fact that alot of rap breeds violence.

Ok..maybe it's not officially "rap" night...but that's 90% of what they play on Wednesday nights.

As for the rest of what you said...WTF are you talking about? Everybody knows we need those illegals to cut our grass thank you very much.
:war: NOW YOU HAVE INSULTED....WITHOUT INTELLIGENCE,I MIGHT ADD A WHOLE LOT OF DIFF' RACES........WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??????CONSIDERING YOU HATE WHEN SOMEONE PULL THE "RACE CARD" YOU COULD HAVE LEFT THAT LAST LINE OUT....EVEN IF YOU WERE KIDDING................I SURE HOPE YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD RIDING-MOWER!!!!!!!!!..........I'M STILL TRYING TO HAVE LOVE 4 YA,BUT UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE:NO CHRISTMAS 4 YOU,THIS YEAR!!!!!!!! :killingme

[MysticalMom]

:war: NOW YOU HAVE INSULTED....WITHOUT INTELLIGENCE,I MIGHT ADD A WHOLE LOT OF DIFF' RACES........WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??????CONSIDERING YOU HATE WHEN SOMEONE PULL THE "RACE CARD" YOU COULD HAVE LEFT THAT LAST LINE OUT....EVEN IF YOU WERE KIDDING................I SURE HOPE YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD RIDING-MOWER!!!!!!!!!..........I'M STILL TRYIG TO HAVE LOVE 4 YA,BUT UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE:NO CHRISTMAS 4 YOU,THIS YEAR!!!!!!!! :killingme

Hey..you made the crack about Taco Bell...not me. :whistle:

[quietcool2006]

Hey..you made the crack about Taco Bell...not me. :whistle: :jameo: Obviously you missed the point that I was making!!!!!!!!!! :buttkick: You want the truth but you can not deal with it.....Can you?

[BuddyLee]

:jameo: Obviously you missed the point that I was making!!!!!!!!!! :buttkick: You want the truth but you can not deal with it.....Can you?I think she might be a cracka'.

[Nickel]

I think she might be a cracka'.
:offtopic:, but I think you will appreciate this BL. In the movie Madagascar, when Marty says "This place is crackalackin!", Dustin thought he meant "lacking crackas" as in, no white people. :killingme

[BuddyLee]

:offtopic:, but I think you will appreciate this BL. In the movie Madagascar, when Marty says "This place is crackalackin!", Dustin thought he meant "lacking crackas" as in, no white people. :killingmeAwww Po' Dustin.

I wonder if he actually found the robin's nest or if it found him.:lol:

[MysticalMom]

:jameo: Obviously you missed the point that I was making!!!!!!!!!! :buttkick: You want the truth but you can not deal with it.....Can you?

I already know the truth and deal with it just fine. I am neither racist, nor am I stupid. You are not going to change my mind. I know what I HAVE seen and experienced. I call a spade a spade because I know and have seen it is spade.

quietcool...Why don't we just agree to disagree and call it a night?

[MysticalMom]

I think she might be a cracka'.

Ya think? :lmao:

[MysticalMom]

:offtopic:, but I think you will appreciate this BL. In the movie Madagascar, when Marty says "This place is crackalackin!", Dustin thought he meant "lacking crackas" as in, no white people. :killingme

OMG! :roflmao:

[MysticalMom]

Oh and Mr. Cool...if it makes ya feel any better...

I also think that rock and roll breeds sex and drugs and country music breeds drunk rednecks. :shrug:

[Wenchy]

I also think that rock and roll breeds sex and drugs and country music breeds drunk rednecks. :shrug:

How about my "ghey" 80's music?

[BuddyLee]

How about my "ghey" 80's music?That breeds squishy buttocks'.:duh:

[Wenchy]

That breeds squishy buttocks'.:duh:

Is that what did it? :lmao:

:banana:

[itsbob]

How about my "ghey" 80's music?
That breeds people like Michael Jackson and Richard Simmons..

[Wenchy]

That breeds people like Michael Jackson and Richard Simmons..

I rocked to MJ back then :banana: but Richard always made my stomach turn. :jameo:

Talking Heads
UB40
Thompson Twins
Tears for Fears
Squeeze


Those were my faves.

[MysticalMom]

I rocked to MJ back then :banana: but Richard always made my stomach turn. :jameo:

Talking Heads
UB40
Thompson Twins
Tears for Fears
Squeeze


Those were my faves.

I was never into "80's music". Even in the 80's. I'm a country girl. :yay:

[luvvme]

They play rap at Monks?


Thats what I was thinking! But speaking of Rape and Tourture there is plenty of it in that rock -n- roll crap :larry:

[BuddyLee]

Thats what I was thinking! But speaking of Rape and Tourture there is plenty of it in that rock -n- roll crap :larry:In practically every song that is dedicated to the genre?:coffee:

[luvvme]

No. But neither does rap. You guys are using examples of rap trash that nobody listens to. Yeah some of the mainstream stuff is a little violent but just close your ears like I do.

[BuddyLee]

No. But neither does rap. You guys are using examples of rap trash that nobody listens to. Yeah some of the mainstream stuff is a little violent but just close your ears like I do.So I see.:ohwell: