PDA

View Full Version : Specific Religions Aside..


itsbob
03-08-2007, 10:16 PM
.. does everyone agree a business with "Christian" in their names or ads, is most assuredly a rip off??

Christian Loan Sharks (http://www.christiancashalliance.net/cashloan/?promo_sub_code=CD481)

BS Gal
03-08-2007, 10:23 PM
.. does everyone agree a business with "Christian" in their names or ads, is most assuredly a rip off??

Christian Loan Sharks (http://www.christiancashalliance.net/cashloan/?promo_sub_code=CD481)
If they are nestled next to their beaver, I have no problem with it. :huggy:

Pete
03-08-2007, 10:26 PM
If they are nestled next to their beaver, I have no problem with it. :huggy:
stomp

Beelzebaby666
03-08-2007, 10:27 PM
I would think twice about calling them, but more because they are affiliated with bankers than because they claim to be affiliated with God. God doesn't want my money and he wouldn't charge me interest. :lol:

Nickel
03-08-2007, 10:30 PM
.. does everyone agree a business with "Christian" in their names or ads, is most assuredly a rip off??

Christian Loan Sharks (http://www.christiancashalliance.net/cashloan/?promo_sub_code=CD481)
No, but I would be leery of the term "Cash Alliance". :shrug:

Penn
03-09-2007, 12:06 AM
Hmmmm, that big green arrow gives me the heeebie-jeeebies!:jameo:

kom526
03-09-2007, 12:50 AM
Instead of sending Vito to collect, they send Jehovah's Witnesses?

Penn
03-09-2007, 12:56 AM
Put the big dog outside for the night!:lmao:

SamSpade
03-09-2007, 06:30 AM
.. does everyone agree a business with "Christian" in their names or ads, is most assuredly a rip off??

Christian Loan Sharks (http://www.christiancashalliance.net/cashloan/?promo_sub_code=CD481)

There's only one reason anyone would need to do business with anyone other than a well known lending institution - and that's because their credit isn't very good. I know - my sister works for such a place.

But I get your point, and I'd probably also be suspicious of any business that feels the need to advertise "Christian" so boldly.

brendar buhl
03-09-2007, 07:34 AM
There is this thing in Baltimore called "The Shepard's Guide". It is a Yellow Pages for Christian businesses. My experience has been that theses companies are relying on their Christianity to bring in business instead of what other companies rely on (quality). The plumber that I called gave me an estimate that was nearly twice what "non-Christian" plumbers quoted. Of course you don't want some one installing satanic pipes in your house do you.

crzy1
03-09-2007, 07:41 AM
Instead of sending Vito to collect, they send Jehovah's Witnesses?

:lmao:

vraiblonde
03-09-2007, 08:01 AM
.. does everyone agree a business with "Christian" in their names or ads, is most assuredly a rip off??
That has been my experience, yes.

vraiblonde
03-09-2007, 08:02 AM
And about that particular business:

Praying for cash? :eyebrow:

SamSpade
03-09-2007, 08:52 AM
I can only think of one reason why it might even have a ring of legitimacy.

I was once in a church where they produced a listing of companies owned by other members. It was never stressed but often encouraged to go to the businesses of our fellow members.

I've also seen directories of businesses owned by (specific race or ethnicity) for exactly the same reasons - to encourage the business of those within said community.

And to be fair? Sometimes I have returned to businesses where I got a good deal and found out later they were devout (something) and regarded ethics highly as part of their doing business - because while I respect the need to be in business for profit, it's nice to know someone whose word is better than a written contract.

itsbob
03-09-2007, 09:47 AM
And to be fair? Sometimes I have returned to businesses where I got a good deal and found out later they were devout (something) and regarded ethics highly as part of their doing business - because while I respect the need to be in business for profit, it's nice to know someone whose word is better than a written contract.
True, but did they advertise their belief by using CHRISTIAN in big bold letters in their signs? My experience has been the same, but I didn't know this about them until I met them. I used an electician again and again in NH, he trusted me with just a phone call and a handshake, and I trusted him that his work would be superior and I wouldn't have to watch over him. THe name of his business was "An Affordable Electrician" or "AA Electrician".

THis particular Christian businees is a payday loan business, meaning they are charging christian interest rates of probably more then 30%.. AND they aren't even the lenders, but a service to refer you to people who will loan you the money. They just get to take their piece of you off of the top.

SamSpade
03-09-2007, 10:27 AM
True, but did they advertise their belief by using CHRISTIAN in big bold letters in their signs?

Not typically. And I didn't specify devout WHAT. I did know of a man twenty years ago who was a very devout JEW who had such a reputation - that people would rather have his word, than a signature from anyone else. Such is the case with people who dedicate their professional conduct.

However, being very familiar with Biblical texts and such, it isn't hard sometimes to spot references however mildly obscure that suggest Christian or some kind of religious devotion (e.g. "Berean Research" or "Barnabas Counseling" or perhaps a soup kitchen called "Widow's Oil"). Since I've seen both good and bad examples, I treat them all the same - you get my business if you do a good job.

Toxick
03-09-2007, 10:29 AM
.. does everyone agree a business with "Christian" in their names or ads, is most assuredly a rip off??

Not ANY business.


But most assuredly that one.

wxtornado
03-09-2007, 12:12 PM
I must be missing something - is there supposed to be an advantage in having the word "christian" in your business name? Ah, I think I just figured it out...........

2ndAmendment
03-09-2007, 01:47 PM
.. does everyone agree a business with "Christian" in their names or ads, is most assuredly a rip off??

Christian Loan Sharks (http://www.christiancashalliance.net/cashloan/?promo_sub_code=CD481)
No. "Christian Book Store" comes to mind. I tend to look for businesses that I know are run by Christians. I expect honesty. I have rarely been disappointed.

Looking at that site and reading their privacy page, I agree that this group is playing on the word Christian but not standing on Christian principles. Their terms would not even display. That is not new for "religious" people. The only written record of Jesus getting mad and physically tossing things and people is in the temple with the money changers telling them they had turned His house into a den of thieves.

Many mafia think they are Christians. I think they are going to be surprised. Many profess to be Christians but don't live the life of a Christian. As James said, "Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself." James 2:14-20

14What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?

15If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food,

16and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and be filled," and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that?

17Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.

18But someone may well say, "You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works."

19You believe that God is one You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.

20But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? We are not saved by works; only the blood of Jesus can save us; salvation is a gift that cannot be earned. James was not saying anything to the contrary. He was saying that if you have true faith, if you really have Jesus as Savior and Lord, your actions will show that you do.

A real Christian business person may indicate that the business is Christian, but the terms and conditions, the business practices, everything about the business better reflect the Christian life.

2ndAmendment
03-09-2007, 01:53 PM
I would think twice about calling them, but more because they are affiliated with bankers than because they claim to be affiliated with God. God doesn't want my money and he wouldn't charge me interest. :lol:
It is not Biblical for Jews to charge interest of Jews. Deuteronomy 23:19-20

19"You shall not charge interest to your countrymen: interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest.

20"You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countrymen you shall not charge interest, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess. That could be expanded to Christians. See where the pursuit of money causes problems? Proverbs 22:7

7The rich rules over the poor,
And the borrower becomes the lender's slave.
Isn't it the truth?

2ndAmendment
03-09-2007, 01:55 PM
There is this thing in Baltimore called "The Shepard's Guide". It is a Yellow Pages for Christian businesses. My experience has been that theses companies are relying on their Christianity to bring in business instead of what other companies rely on (quality). The plumber that I called gave me an estimate that was nearly twice what "non-Christian" plumbers quoted. Of course you don't want some one installing satanic pipes in your house do you.
Wolves among the sheep.

vraiblonde
03-09-2007, 01:56 PM
No. "Christian Book Store" comes to mind.
That's different - they specifically sell Christian products. Bob's talking about the auto mechanics or computer repair places (just for example :jet:) who make a big deal out of being a Christian business. Using God as a marketing tool, and like that. Those guys are almost ALWAYS crooks.

wxtornado
03-09-2007, 02:06 PM
That's different - they specifically sell Christian products. Bob's talking about the auto mechanics or computer repair places (just for example :jet:) who make a big deal out of being a Christian business. Using God as a marketing tool, and like that. Those guys are almost ALWAYS crooks.

Okay, maybe I don't get it. Does the average joe think christians are somehow more "honest business people" or something? Is this why some people use the word "christian" in their business name? :confused:

vraiblonde
03-09-2007, 02:41 PM
Okay, maybe I don't get it. Does the average joe think christians are somehow more "honest business people" or something? Is this why some people use the word "christian" in their business name?
Yes. And it's a definite marketing tool, similar to advertising yourself as the lowest prices in town. There are a lot of folks out there that call themselves Christians and may actually attend a regular church, but they're nothing more than wolves among the sheep, like 2A said earlier.

2ndAmendment
03-09-2007, 02:59 PM
That's different - they specifically sell Christian products. Bob's talking about the auto mechanics or computer repair places (just for example :jet:) who make a big deal out of being a Christian business. Using God as a marketing tool, and like that. Those guys are almost ALWAYS crooks.
But my answer is in accordance with itsbob's question.

wxtornado, I do expect a business run by a Christian to stand to the best business ethic. If I am not treated that way, then I may speak to the owner about his business ethic. If he does not correct his ethics, then it is Biblical to bring it to the church leaders and if he still does not correct his ethic, to bring it before the church. It is Biblical for Christians to "police" their own or to make it know that the person is not an accepted member of the church, not an organization, but the body of believers. Most church leaders do not have the Spiritual fortitude to follow the Bible in this regard. Church has become business. And I think Jesus is not too happy about it. Church should be about the business of God.

It is very sad that many have been turned from God by the improper actions of religious, not righteous, people. There is a vast difference between religious and righteous. The scribes and Pharisees that had Jesus crucified were religious men. They were not righteous or they would have recognized Jesus for who He is, the I AM.

itsbob
03-09-2007, 11:22 PM
That's different - they specifically sell Christian products. Bob's talking about the auto mechanics or computer repair places (just for example :jet:) who make a big deal out of being a Christian business. Using God as a marketing tool, and like that. Those guys are almost ALWAYS crooks.
EXACTLY thank you.. I think I remember an auto repair place in Lusby has Christian in their names.. advertised it.. and I think we had more complaints in the forums from them then any other auto repair place.

brendar buhl
03-10-2007, 09:22 AM
EXACTLY thank you.. I think I remember an auto repair place in Lusby has Christian in their names.. advertised it.. and I think we had more complaints in the forums from them then any other auto repair place.

No doubt. It's fine and appropriate to expect high standards from Christians especially considering all of the self-righteous preaching that we do, but you will probably end up being disappointed. In reality Christians end up working of the same set of ethics as everyone else. For proof of that just look at the Churches divorce rate.

itsbob
03-10-2007, 04:32 PM
I wouldn't consider those that own businesses with "Chrisitiain" in their names so much as Christians (although I'm sure there are some well intentioned Chrsitians that do own some of these busineses) but not so upright business men trying to shear the flock, and take advantage of those that are true Christians.


SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.