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AK-74me
02-13-2008, 05:00 PM
Check this link. So are they saying the .50 has a kill radius the same as a small nuke???

4 miles? You don't say. Have they ever heard of line of sight???

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/assaultweapons/)

LordStanley
02-13-2008, 05:34 PM
Have they ever heard of line of sight???

Or trees and buildings that might happen to be in the way

ylexot
02-13-2008, 05:36 PM
Or trees and buildings that might happen to be in the way

At four miles...curvature of the Earth :lmao:

Ken King
02-13-2008, 06:17 PM
The M-107 LRSR has an a maximum range of slightly better than 4.2 miles, effective range is listed at about 1.1 miles using the 12.7 X 99mm round. Curvature of the earth computations for a height of approximately 5 feet with 0 elevation equates to a distance of 2.7 statute miles. So from an elevated stand or any upward elevation angle the 4 mile distance can be achieved, just not with any accuracy.

Now how many street thugs would be inclined to walk around with an almost 5 foot long and 28 pound weapon? Not many I suspect.

This is just more feel good BS without doing what needs to be done, firm and mandatory sentences for the use of a firearm in the commission of a crime. A .25 cal can kill someone just as well as a .50 cal.

Lenny
02-13-2008, 06:50 PM
So from an elevated stand or any upward elevation angle the 4 mile distance can be achieved, just not with any accuracy.

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That should be accurate enough if your target is a large as Al Gore's carbon footprint.

edinsomd
02-13-2008, 07:41 PM
That should be accurate enough if your target is a large as Al Gore's carbon footprint.

Bu-bu-bu-but its so BIG and Scary! Algore's carbon footprint, that is.
Ed

Toreadoralpha
02-13-2008, 08:31 PM
The M-107 LRSR has an a maximum range of slightly better than 4.2 miles, effective range is listed at about 1.1 miles using the 12.7 X 99mm round. Curvature of the earth computations for a height of approximately 5 feet with 0 elevation equates to a distance of 2.7 statute miles. So from an elevated stand or any upward elevation angle the 4 mile distance can be achieved, just not with any accuracy.

Now how many street thugs would be inclined to walk around with an almost 5 foot long and 28 pound weapon? Not many I suspect.

This is just more feel good BS without doing what needs to be done, firm and mandatory sentences for the use of a firearm in the commission of a crime. A .25 cal can kill someone just as well as a .50 cal.


Now now now, don't give me fancy figures, physics and math. Logic, reason, and such only confuse the issue.

What we need is hysteria, feelings, and good intentions. It doesn't matter whether or not a law produces the intended result, or even a positive one. All that matters is that their intentions are good, irreguardless of silly reality or unintended consequences. Don't judge liberal policies on anything other than the fact they are just doing the darndest to try to be of help.

You wouldn't take a blow torch from a two year old trying to help with the plumbing repair would you, the two year old is just trying to help.

:whistle:

RadioPatrol
02-13-2008, 09:56 PM
Check this link. So are they saying the .50 has a kill radius the same as a small nuke???

4 miles? You don't say. Have they ever heard of line of sight???

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/assaultweapons/)

but you could shoot down Gas Bag Gore's Jet with one, or shoot holes in evil cell towers or radar sites @ airports .... :whistle:

RadioPatrol
02-13-2008, 09:59 PM
:coffee:

Although primarily used by militaries around the world, the .50 caliber sniper rifle and its various types of ammunition are readily available to the public.

wasn't it a civie that designed the 1st one b4 the Military ever new they wanted one ? :confused:

AK-74me
02-24-2008, 01:37 PM
Police Push for .50 Caliber Rifle Ban | KHON2 FOX | KHON News (http://www.khon2.com/home/ticker/15897727.html)

So much BS in one article.

And WTF is a "safety weapon on firearms" ???

Novus Collectus
02-24-2008, 05:56 PM
but you could shoot down Gas Bag Gore's Jet with one, or shoot holes in evil cell towers or radar sites @ airports .... :whistle:
They start to believe their own lies and I can see the claims just getting worse:
"We must ban .50 cal rifles because they are capable of shooting down the space station."

ImnoMensa
02-24-2008, 08:30 PM
Go to a Turkey shoot and half the people there cant hit a paper target at 25 feet with a shotgun.

There may be a few shooters around who can do this gun justice, but how many of them are criminals.?

czygvtwkr
02-24-2008, 09:55 PM
I think the size, weight, and cost will deter just about any criminal.

50 cal is only 0.05" larger than a 45..........

czygvtwkr
02-24-2008, 10:33 PM
Now this is real bull####.

A government study found that a used .50 caliber BMG sniper rifle can be purchased online for just $29.95

Hell I would pay 10x that happily.

edinsomd
02-24-2008, 11:12 PM
Now this is real bull####.



Hell I would pay 10x that happily.

:yahoo: I'll take a dozen! Unfortunatly, .50 BMG is still about $6.00 PER ROUND.
Damn those annoying facts,
Ed

RadioPatrol
02-25-2008, 01:46 AM
Now this is real bull####.



Hell I would pay 10x that happily.

Maybe in downtown Baghdad ......... or Mogadishu, certaily not anywhere in the US ... some paper pusher must have confused a .50 cal Muzzle Loader

Pushrod
02-25-2008, 08:57 AM
Maybe in downtown Baghdad ......... or Mogadishu, certaily not anywhere in the US ... some paper pusher must have confused a .50 cal Muzzle Loader

He!!, that would even be a deal on a muzzel loader. I can't think of any gun outside of a BB gun that you can get for under $30.00 used.

RadioPatrol
02-25-2008, 09:00 AM
He!!, that would even be a deal on a muzzel loader. I can't think of any gun outside of a BB gun that you can get for under $30.00 used.

well true ........ just poking further fun @ this nonsense

Larry Gude
02-25-2008, 09:17 AM
I think the size, weight, and cost will deter just about any criminal.

50 cal is only 0.05" larger than a 45..........

...criminals wil use anything they can get their hands on!

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_and_Lightfoot)


:lmao:

RadioPatrol
02-25-2008, 09:21 AM
...criminals wil use anything they can get their hands on!

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_and_Lightfoot)


:lmao:

great flick ...... I'd steal a 20mm cannon to rob an Armory :whistle:

AK-74me
02-26-2008, 06:17 PM
pointing out facts that all the hysteria crazy ban the .50 cal people seem to always miss.

With "Powerful Rifle" article, journalist shoots self in the foot (http://fiftycal.org/frenchrebuttal0511.php)

czygvtwkr
02-26-2008, 06:26 PM
A wrench in the intake will bring down a plane faster than a bullet would.....lets ban wrenches.

Larry Gude
02-26-2008, 06:32 PM
pointing out facts that all the hysteria crazy ban the .50 cal people seem to always miss.

With "Powerful Rifle" article, journalist shoots self in the foot (http://fiftycal.org/frenchrebuttal0511.php)

...but a .50 could bring down an airliner. So could a .308 or maybe even a .223. A .38 special might do the trick. Maybe even a flare gun. Two decent size geese could bring down a 737. Two determined shot putters might even pull it off with some practice. Or a couple of brick layers or even disgruntled baggage handlers with some milspec Samsonite. If two jihadi dove into the engines at the end of the runway, who knows? Of course, a good shooter with a .50 could eliminate the jihadi's from up to 2,700yards or so, not to mention the geese, bricklayers and baggage handlers...

Larry Gude
02-26-2008, 06:33 PM
A wrench in the intake will bring down a plane faster than a bullet would.....lets ban wrenches.

...wrenches...much, much cheaper than guns...and no back ground check! Call it the Mac tool loophole...

Let's see, box cutters have brought down a few more planes than sniper rifles, what else?

RadioPatrol
02-27-2008, 06:35 AM
pointing out facts that all the hysteria crazy ban the .50 cal people seem to always miss.

With "Powerful Rifle" article, journalist shoots self in the foot (http://fiftycal.org/frenchrebuttal0511.php)

She begins with the bold assertion that soldiers can shoot rifle bullets through tank armor from a mile away. One might think that in making a statement about soldiers and tank vulnerability that a logical source might be, perhaps, the Army? Had Ms. French bothered to investigate she would have noted Army testing on precisely that point, which stated that a 20mm cannon, which dwarfs the lowly .50cal, was required to break the weakest item on a tank’s exterior – a thermal lens cover. (U.S. Army Worldwide Equipment Guide, 7 Nov 2000) Tank armor is designed to stand up to high-explosive anti-tank missiles with warheads the size of footballs, the very reason that modern soldiers are equipped with rocket launchers. A .50cal cannot penetrate that armor from five feet away, much less the ridiculous assertion that it can do this from a mile away.


what a tool .........

Vince
02-27-2008, 07:15 AM
Maybe in downtown Baghdad ......... or Mogadishu, certaily not anywhere in the US ... some paper pusher must have confused a .50 cal Muzzle LoaderEven a .50 cal Muzzle Loader is going to cost you between $300 and $500 unless it's a POS.

Vince
02-27-2008, 07:19 AM
Check this link. So are they saying the .50 has a kill radius the same as a small nuke???

4 miles? You don't say. Have they ever heard of line of sight???

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/assaultweapons/)Got to love this Brady :bs: And if Obama gets in office be prepared. He not only supports the ban on semi-auto assault weapons, but he wants all semi-auto weapons banned.

Novus Collectus
02-28-2008, 06:10 PM
pointing out facts that all the hysteria crazy ban the .50 cal people seem to always miss.

With "Powerful Rifle" article, journalist shoots self in the foot (http://fiftycal.org/frenchrebuttal0511.php)

Excellent article!!!


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