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BeenSpur'd
06-24-2008, 01:33 PM
I went out to feed up this morning and discovered that the four, six week old chicks that I hatched in the incubator were killed by something last night. I don't know how they did it, they were in a big and strong metal cage on a wagon next to the chicken coop. It was their third night out since I moved them from out of the farmhouse. I had incubated the eggs because a snake had been going in there and stealing eggs that I left for the hen to sit on. I was just trying to let them grow a little bigger before I moved them in with the rooster and hen. What ever got them pulled one of them out of the cage and left the other three in there with neck wounds. The spaces on the cage are not that big so it must of been awfully traumatic. Whatever that something was that did this is going to be trapped and disposed of. I spent a lot of time raising these guys. I guess I will have to try again, I get an egg a day from the hen. I bought the hen and rooster from the county fair last year, it took five months for them to settle down in their new home, they got traumatized from being on display and I think last night set them back again. Anyhow, gotta go dig some graves:(
Mousebaby
06-24-2008, 01:36 PM
I went out to feed up this morning and discovered that the four, six week old chicks that I hatched in the incubator were killed by something last night. I don't know how they did it, they were in a big and strong metal cage on a wagon next to the chicken coop. It was their third night out since I moved them from out of the farmhouse. I had incubated the eggs because a snake had been going in there and stealing eggs that I left for the hen to sit on. I was just trying to let them grow a little bigger before I moved them in with the rooster and hen. What ever got them pulled one of them out of the cage and left the other three in there with neck wounds. The spaces on the cage are not that big so it must of been awfully traumatic. Whatever that something was that did this is going to be trapped and disposed of. I spent a lot of time raising these guys. I guess I will have to try again, I get an egg a day from the hen. I bought the hen and rooster from the county fair last year, it took five months for them to settle down in their new home, they got traumatized from being on display and I think last night set them back again. Anyhow, gotta go dig some graves:(
Aaawww, that's terrible! :huggy:
RareBreed
06-24-2008, 01:37 PM
How terrible for you and those poor chicks. I hope you find out what killed them.
Radiant1
06-24-2008, 01:44 PM
Sorry to hear about your chicks. If you actually trap a creature could you let me know what it was? I lost both of my ducks, the female was basically beheaded by the neck (!) with no other sign of trauma and the male simply disappeared.
It might be the numerous foxes we have in the area but I would have thought that they would devour the duck for food, not just injure it and leave it for dead. I was told that opossums are known to suck blood out of fowl by the neck but not sure how accurate that is.
Mousebaby
06-24-2008, 01:47 PM
Sorry to hear about your chicks. If you actually trap a creature could you let me know what it was? I lost both of my ducks, the female was basically beheaded by the neck (!) with no other sign of trauma and the male simply disappeared.
It might be the numerous foxes we have in the area but I would have thought that they would devour the duck for food, not just injure it and leave it for dead. I was told that opossums are known to suck blood out of fowl by the neck but not sure how accurate that is.
You know you guys are giving me the heebie jeebies. :twitch:
Radiant1
06-24-2008, 01:54 PM
You know you guys are giving me the heebie jeebies. :twitch:
Sorry! :flowers:
Keep your babies inside or well protected, there are vampire creatures that roam at night!
Mousebaby
06-24-2008, 02:00 PM
Sorry! :flowers:
Keep your babies inside or well protected, there are vampire creatures that roam at night!
:shocking: Apparently so! Makes me rethink letting my doggies out at night! :jameo:
Hessian
06-24-2008, 02:01 PM
seems to me that our ancestors had a different view of life & death...because they regularly faced the unknown and accepted it as part of nature.
Did it frustrate them? Absolutely-to tears MANY times but, there was this sense of inevitablity,...I will lose part of my crop to raccoons & deer, the sacks of grain will succumb to mice & rats, hens will be snatched by weasels & foxes & snakes....
Those were pretty tough people-in more than one way.
I am sorry for your loss,...you have experienced what has been felt millions of times before.
Dougstermd
06-24-2008, 02:02 PM
How terrible for you and those poor chicks. I hope you find out what killed them.
yeah so they can kill it!!!!!
Inkpen
06-24-2008, 02:07 PM
I went out to feed up this morning and discovered that the four, six week old chicks that I hatched in the incubator were killed by something last night. I don't know how they did it, they were in a big and strong metal cage on a wagon next to the chicken coop. It was their third night out since I moved them from out of the farmhouse. I had incubated the eggs because a snake had been going in there and stealing eggs that I left for the hen to sit on. I was just trying to let them grow a little bigger before I moved them in with the rooster and hen. What ever got them pulled one of them out of the cage and left the other three in there with neck wounds. The spaces on the cage are not that big so it must of been awfully traumatic. Whatever that something was that did this is going to be trapped and disposed of. I spent a lot of time raising these guys. I guess I will have to try again, I get an egg a day from the hen. I bought the hen and rooster from the county fair last year, it took five months for them to settle down in their new home, they got traumatized from being on display and I think last night set them back again. Anyhow, gotta go dig some graves:(
Killed ...not eaten..how weird is that!!!
How tight was the wire on the cage?
Or better yet, how big was the wire?
2x2, 2x4, 1x1,
Sounds like a cat!!!!
Mousebaby
06-24-2008, 02:16 PM
Killed ...not eaten..how weird is that!!!
How tight was the wire on the cage?
Or better yet, how big was the wire?
2x2, 2x4, 1x1,
Sounds like a cat!!!!
Ya know I was thinking the same thing because of what happened to one of my hamsters. My cat Grace pulled him through the bars and ate him through the bars. When I went to feed him the next day the only thing left in his cage was his skull! :faint:
BeenSpur'd
06-25-2008, 10:35 AM
Here is a picture of the cage with the chicks in it. All of their heads were missing and one whole chick was gone. I buried them after my daughter and I said a few words about them. Just thought that cage was strong and nothing would get them, boy was I wrong. I've been getting an egg a day so I'll start saving them again to try one more time this year to get a few more hens.
happyappygirl
06-25-2008, 10:52 AM
how weird their heads were pulled out and off, but they are in different places. since it happened at night, and there wasn't any light in the cage, they most likely never moved when something reached in and grabbed them. Chickens rarely move in the dark, they can't see well. sounds like a cat or raccoon.
Poor chicks. :frown: we had a snake get into ours once, it couldn't get out after it swallowed the doves, the lumps were too big for it to fit through the mesh. I made sure to get him out so he never got in again. :smack:
deemerma
06-26-2008, 08:26 PM
Here is a picture of the cage with the chicks in it. All of their heads were missing and one whole chick was gone. I buried them after my daughter and I said a few words about them. Just thought that cage was strong and nothing would get them, boy was I wrong. I've been getting an egg a day so I'll start saving them again to try one more time this year to get a few more hens.
Same think happened to my Quail that I hatched in an incubator. Out of 6 eggs, he was a late bloomer, my dad wanted me to give up they were way past time to hatch, but I persisted and there he was, after two batches of unsuccessful eggs, my very own QUAIL! Used to have in a VERY similar cage, only set up higher and with an enclosure with solid walls connected by a tiny little birdie-door. Went to feed one day and nothing but scattered body parts...I still wonder what got in there, this was in a subdivision in Waldorf, so I didn't really consider dangerous predators to be lurking, no stray cats around to speak of...sorry about you loss, I think I know how you feel. Also had a rabbit eaten from the bottom up in that neighborhood, so did our neighbors, no more outside pets for me!
Cowgirl
06-26-2008, 09:18 PM
I'm pretty sure it's an opossum if it's beheading and leaving bodies. We had several head/neckless ducks and chickens over the years.
Kohburn
07-01-2008, 04:37 PM
sounds like you need a cage inside a cage with a gap between them large enough to keep animal arms from reaching in.
desertrat
07-01-2008, 05:07 PM
I'm pretty sure it's an opossum if it's beheading and leaving bodies. We had several head/neckless ducks and chickens over the years.
How about a weasel? That is their prefered method of killing and they kill just for fun (or practice) when they're done killing for food. You all got the weasels out here?
Cowgirl
07-01-2008, 08:58 PM
How about a weasel? That is their prefered method of killing and they kill just for fun (or practice) when they're done killing for food. You all got the weasels out here?
:shrug: I'm not sure they're out here. Could be, I guess.
jedi2814
07-15-2008, 11:41 AM
Here is a picture of the cage with the chicks in it. All of their heads were missing and one whole chick was gone. I buried them after my daughter and I said a few words about them. Just thought that cage was strong and nothing would get them, boy was I wrong. I've been getting an egg a day so I'll start saving them again to try one more time this year to get a few more hens.
Most likely a racoon; possibly a possum, but they tend to be too lazy to work that hard. Strong doesn't matter if the predator's got hands. Racoons are scavengers - they'll take what they can get and move on. The only real protection at night from a variety of predators is a house with no entrances open at night. We lost 15 full grown hens in one night because the door did not get secured properly before dark. We think that was a fox, because we found some of them buried around the farm. Raccoons will kill full grown hens too though.
That cage also would not be warm enough for less than two - four week old chicks if they are seperated from the hen. They need to be kept at 90 degrees for the first week and then have the temperature lowered 5-10 degrees each week until you reach 70 degrees. They should be kept at 70 until they feather out. You may have been lucky this time since it was June. We lost several chicks this spring because the light burned out during the night and they got cold (it got down to 40 that night and they were only 8 days old).
I am all for finding and eliminating the culprit - but that's not always easy - they are smarter than you think (you also don't want to advertise that you did it - unless the animal is in "season" you would be poaching). You have to have good defenses too.
Good luck with your next hatch!
ArkRescue
07-17-2008, 11:19 AM
I use chain link fencing to keep predators out (and I have a top also) and although that works great, it doesn't stop them from digging UNDER the perimeter to get in so I constantly have to watch for signs of a dig in progress (they usually dig over a period of nights I've heard). I have not lost any chickens in 1 year but I do have a dog nearby that alerts to anything that moves out there, so I think he keeps the predators at a distance. So sorry for your loss.
I've trapped and relocated 4 raccoons and 4 opossums - those raccoons sure get heavy! I caught them all over a period of 2 weeks in the barn going after kitty food from a rescue kitty I have there who is housed in a big cage/condo - I guess they reach in and take his food? Darn predators!
I went out to feed up this morning and discovered that the four, six week old chicks that I hatched in the incubator were killed by something last night. I don't know how they did it, they were in a big and strong metal cage on a wagon next to the chicken coop. It was their third night out since I moved them from out of the farmhouse. I had incubated the eggs because a snake had been going in there and stealing eggs that I left for the hen to sit on. I was just trying to let them grow a little bigger before I moved them in with the rooster and hen. What ever got them pulled one of them out of the cage and left the other three in there with neck wounds. The spaces on the cage are not that big so it must of been awfully traumatic. Whatever that something was that did this is going to be trapped and disposed of. I spent a lot of time raising these guys. I guess I will have to try again, I get an egg a day from the hen. I bought the hen and rooster from the county fair last year, it took five months for them to settle down in their new home, they got traumatized from being on display and I think last night set them back again. Anyhow, gotta go dig some graves:(
BeenSpur'd
07-17-2008, 02:39 PM
I've trapped and relocated 4 raccoons and 4 opossums - those raccoons sure get heavy! I caught them all over a period of 2 weeks in the barn going after kitty food from a rescue kitty I have there who is housed in a big cage/condo - I guess they reach in and take his food? Darn predators!
What did you use as bait for the opossum and raccoons? I'm going to get a trap and start trapping. I have more eggs incubating and they will start hatching out Monday. I want to trap everything that can possibly kill chicks before I put them out and will keep a trap set all the time when I do put the new batch out. I will not put them out in the cage, this time they will go directly into the coop when they are big enough. I also have a bunch of ground hogs that have to go, since dad sold his land around my farm and they've been putting a housing development in, all the wild critters have moved to my farm. On a good note, I saw two turkey hens and a handful of babies visiting my male turkey the other morning:) I think he is the father, he was loose this spring until I built a pen for him to keep him out of my garden.
jedi2814
07-18-2008, 10:42 AM
I've trapped and relocated 4 raccoons and 4 opossums - those raccoons sure get heavy! I caught them all over a period of 2 weeks in the barn going after kitty food from a rescue kitty I have there who is housed in a big cage/condo - I guess they reach in and take his food? Darn predators!
How far do you go to relocate? I've heard they often make it back from several miles.
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