"I find Barak Obama to be a very attractive candidate. I would want to vote for him. But the closer I look at his positions, the more alarmed I become. He builds himself as the candidate of change--and in a odd way he is--just not the kind of change, I think, most Americans now understand." - Dr. Al Mohler

"...we're looking at the most liberal candidate to gain a party nomination, probably in the history of this country. And on so many of the issues, far beyond where a Bill Clinton was..." - Dr. Al Mohler


The Importance of Being an Informed Voter -
Focus on the Family (http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Focus_on_the_Family/archives.asp?bcd=7/21/2008)

Well he IS the most liberal senator of 2007.

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008) (http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/)

Barry Obama is Marxist. Look at his history, what he did in Chicago, the Alinsky organizations, etc. He wants to redistribute the income, tell private companies what salaries they can pay, etc.
He is dangerous. Of course, he hasn't been nominated yet.

"I find Barak Obama to be a very attractive candidate. I would want to vote for him. But the closer I look at his positions, the more alarmed I become. He builds himself as the candidate of change--and in a odd way he is--just not the kind of change, I think, most Americans now understand." - Dr. Al Mohler

"...we're looking at the most liberal candidate to gain a party nomination, probably in the history of this country. And on so many of the issues, far beyond where a Bill Clinton was..." - Dr. Al Mohler


The Importance of Being an Informed Voter -
Focus on the Family (http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Focus_on_the_Family/archives.asp?bcd=7/21/2008)
And Bush is one of the worst Presidents in history. John McCain is a continuation of George Bush's Presidency. What's your point? :bigwhoop:

blinds.

John McCain is a continuation of George Bush's Presidency. What's your point? :bigwhoop:
Really?

Did ya' get that from the DU?

Really?

Did ya' get that from the DU?

MSM is his brain.

Did ya' get that from the DU?
Actually, I get my talking points here from the RU at SOMD. :smile:

You guys frequent the DU more often than I do. :shrug:

MSM is his brain.

... I haven't killed all my brain cells. :otter:

... I haven't killed all my brain cells. :otter:
me too.

:otter:

me too.

Drunk already?

Actually, I get my talking points here from the RU at SOMD. :smile:

You guys frequent the DU more often than I do. :shrug:
I've never been there.:shrug:

I don't see how McCain is like Bush though. He may have a few similarities but that doesn't equate him to Bush.

The only places I hear that is from liberal talking pieces. If you say something long and often enough you can get anyone to believe it, whether its true or not.

... I haven't killed all my brain cells. :otter:

Couldnt prove it by what I have read in your posts.

I've never been there.:shrug:

Neither have I. :shrug:

And Bush is one of the worst Presidents in history. Then, don't vote for Bush for a third term.John McCain is a continuation of George Bush's Presidency. What's your point? :bigwhoop:In what way? Or, rather, in what meaningfully different way than Barry? Every time George says something, two weeks later Barry says the same thing. Regarding Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, etc., etc. Barry follows George in every meaningful way when it comes to foreign policy.

Tax and spend? George has wasted unimaginable sums of money, and Barry wants to waste even more, on even more dumb stuff.

If you're going to make such an inaccurate claim, please demonstrate from their platforms where John follows George, and Barry does not.

Tax and spend? George has wasted unimaginable sums of money, and Barry wants to waste even more, on even more dumb stuff.

McCain's voted for Bush's side 90% of the time. :eyebrow:

It was McCain who wanted to screw Americans and cost the US billions in revenue with a "Gas Tax Holiday" by taxing the oil companies, was it not?
Even though he knows the oil companies WILL get that money back somehow. Can you say higher gas prices? So, guess who loses out? :nomoney:

Obama was the only candidate against this idiotic idea.

McCain voted for the war in the first place. Yes, Obama's coming around to the agreement that we are having success in Iraq yet Obama realizes it is still not the war we should've started. McCain and Clinton and the rest of Congress showed an utter lack of judgement.

Bush gave big businesses, car manufacturers and other big industries that employ large amounts of laborers here in America huge tax incentives to take their jobs and ship them off to some third world bumfukk country (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001854367_bushecon10.html). Because that's helped our economy out so much. :rolleyes:

Guess who else supports this flawed and failed economic policy?

McCain is an extension of Bush. I can hear the chants of "four more years" already in the background.

I don't like Obama, and I don't like McCain. To me, it's the lesser of the two evils. That's why I'm an undecided voter. :shrug:

I've never been there.:shrug:

I don't see how McCain is like Bush though. He may have a few similarities but that doesn't equate him to Bush.

The only places I hear that is from liberal talking pieces. If you say something long and often enough you can get anyone to believe it, whether its true or not.

...not like Bush. It just happens to be the line of argument the Obama people figured the largest amount of morons would buy into.

McCain has been excorciated by many Republicans, for years, for being a RINO, Republican in name only and, even a cursory glance will tell you, he was quite at odds with W during the 2000 campaign, resulting in some bad blood that still hasn't gone away even today and has manifested itself numerous times during W's 7 years, from tax policy to environmental issues, to the judge thing to, if anyone cares to recall, the surge itself. That was far more McCain's idea than W's. McCain caught constant flack for being at odds with Bush.

It's been laughably silly to watch Democrats run around and tell one another that McCain is Bush III and reassure one another that, 'yeah that's the ticket', all while the American right just sits back and watches this charade with bemusement and the occasional guffaw.

He didn't earn the Maverick title overnight and while the media certainly abandoned him overnight, his actions and choices over 20 some odd years can't disappear over night no matter how hard Obama pushes the illusion and no matter how many idiots actually buy into it.

You can call a cat a dog all you want. Just don't expect anyone to know what the hell you're talking about or buy into the nonsense.

It was McCain who wanted to screw Americans and cost the US billions in revenue with a "Gas Tax Holiday" by taxing the oil companies, was it not?
Even though he knows the oil companies WILL get that money back somehow. Can you say higher gas prices? So, guess who loses out? :nomoney:

Obama was the only candidate against this idiotic idea. :

...if you can show where McCain said he wanted the oil companies to make up the difference. I can show you where Obama opposed the idea on the grounds that it would hurt the government by not getting the money.

McCain's voted for Bush's side 90% of the time. :eyebrow:In the half of the votes he was supposed to cast that he actually showed up for, how many of Barry's votes were on Bush's side? How about just on the controversial issues, like funding Iraq/Afghanistan stuff? (see, to point out McCain, you have to either compare or contrast with Barry - that's how this question gets answered)It was McCain who wanted to screw Americans and cost the US billions in revenue with a "Gas Tax Holiday" by taxing the oil companies, was it not?Correct - it was not :lol: The idea was to merely suspend the tax, not make the oil companies come up with the difference.

Barry's idea was to tax the oil companies more, thus raising the cost of gasoline even more. He decries the amount of profits the companies get, but fails to mention that the government gets $3 from oil for every dollar in profit the companies make. And, he's only against American companies making this amount - he doesn't criticize foreign companies' oil profits.Obama was the only candidate against this idiotic idea.Because he had a more stupid one of his own :lmao:McCain voted for the war in the first place.He was there to vote. Can't compare that, because Barry wasn't there to vote.Yes, Obama's coming around to the agreement that we are having success in Iraq yet Obama realizes it is still not the war we should've started.Hindsight is a great thing. And, that's a great idea - tell the VOLUNTEER American service people that their deaths have been in vain, created no greater good in the world, so just come on home (oh, and watch all the progress you've made go away because of that bad decision)McCain and Clinton and the rest of Congress showed an utter lack of judgement.No, they went with the best information they had to protect Americans. And, Barry was voting "present" in the Illinois Senate at the time, and his voice was not heard at the time.Bush gave big businesses, car manufacturers and other big industries that employ large amounts of laborers here in America huge tax incentives to take their jobs and ship them off to some third world bumfukk country (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001854367_bushecon10.html). Because that's helped our economy out so much. :rolleyes:Again, then don't vote for Bush.Guess who else supports this flawed and failed economic policy?And, what was Barry's vote?McCain is an extension of Bush. I can hear the chants of "four more years" already in the background.

I don't like Obama, and I don't like McCain. To me, it's the lesser of the two evils. That's why I'm an undecided voter. :shrug:Research Barry, and you'll see which is the lesser. It ain't McCain, but I agree with you that neither is my first choice.

It ain't McCain, but I agree with you that neither is my first choice.

I voted for Ron Paul in the Primary, but the majority of the Republican Party stuck us with this god awful candidate.

The thing I fret the most with Obama is a one-party government. We were stuck with that in Maryland and it ain't working. But, all of our candidates tried their hardest to appeal to the conservative base by being like Bush. Yes, McCain was the least like Bush during the primaries but it's not like he's any good even still.

What we need is a true conservative. And I don't mean any of these evangelical religious hacks (Bush), I mean a true Conservative who has read and understands the Constitution. Ron Paul and Alan Keyes come to mind.

Bush gave big businesses, car manufacturers and other big industries that employ large amounts of laborers here in America huge tax incentives to take their jobs and ship them off to some third world bumfukk country (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001854367_bushecon10.html). Because that's helped our economy out so much. :rolleyes:



Every quarter, the BLS releases their jobs data - and every quarter for about the last 15 years, the number of jobs lost and number of jobs gained is fairly close - in the neighborhood of around 7 million. When you hear news about 100,000 new jobs this quarter - that's a net gain. A lot more were created, and a lot were lost.

Outsourcing per quarter is measured in the low tens of thousands - a fraction of a percent of the total.

It's insignificant. If someone loses their job because it is outsourced, it's like whining over a cup of spilled milk when there's ten gallons in the fridge. There are plenty of jobs, and the U.S. keeps making them.

I voted for Ron Paul in the Primary, but the majority of the Republican Party stuck us with this god awful candidate.

The thing I fret the most with Obama is a one-party government. We were stuck with that in Maryland and it ain't working. But, all of our candidates tried their hardest to appeal to the conservative base by being like Bush. Yes, McCain was the least like Bush during the primaries but it's not like he's any good even still.

What we need is a true conservative. And I don't mean any of these evangelical religious hacks (Bush), I mean a true Conservative who has read and understands the Constitution. Ron Paul and Alan Keyes come to mind.McCain has been the least like Bush, including comparrisons with Barry, all along - long before the primaries. Larry had it right - he's out for McCain, just like Obama is out for Obama.

A true conservative, regardless of religion, would be nice, but it's not going to happen this race.

Every quarter, the BLS releases their jobs data - and every quarter for about the last 15 years, the number of jobs lost and number of jobs gained is fairly close - in the neighborhood of around 7 million. When you hear news about 100,000 new jobs this quarter - that's a net gain. A lot more were created, and a lot were lost.

Outsourcing per quarter is measured in the low tens of thousands - a fraction of a percent of the total.

It's insignificant. If someone loses their job because it is outsourced, it's like whining over a cup of spilled milk when there's ten gallons in the fridge. There are plenty of jobs, and the U.S. keeps making them.
When you've got a degree in one field and those jobs go away, you end up with jobs in another career field (and sometimes with a significant pay decrease). The number of tech and auto manufacturing jobs we lost have nothing to do with the number of new hairstylist positions that opened up - it's irrelevant.

Oh, and, um, going back to college to learn the trade for a new career costs a lot of money.

:bigwhoop:

And Bush is one of the worst Presidents in history.

Andy, shut up. Bush isn't even freakin' CLOSE to being one of the worst Presidents in history. He's not even in the Top Ten.

I swear, sometimes you drive me crazy with your immaturity.

... I haven't killed all my brain cells. :otter:

And both of them thank you.

Barry is running for Jimmy Carter's second term!

And Bush is one of the worst Presidents in history. John McCain is a continuation of George Bush's Presidency. What's your point? :bigwhoop:

Either way, the American people are screwed?

It was McCain who wanted to screw Americans and cost the US billions in revenue with a "Gas Tax Holiday" by taxing the oil companies, was it not?
Even though he knows the oil companies WILL get that money back somehow. Can you say higher gas prices? So, guess who loses out? :nomoney:


Im glad you brought this up.
the way right now to come out of the high prices, or at least slow them down is to become less reliant on foreign oil.
Oblama does not want to drill, he wants to see if new technology can take the place of oil. and, someday it will have to.
the problem is that the day you are looking for with new technology is many years off. Obamas idea is only going to raise the price of fuel, and further decay the dollar in the world market. we will be a third world nation.

McCain on the other hand understand that the need for new oil NOW is evident. With new oil we can decrease our dependence and increase supply forcing the price down. You do understand that in oil producing countries they pay next to nothing for their fuel. well, oil producing countries that also process their own oil. The U.S could be one of those countries.

If you are basing your theories on the future price of fuel and heating oils, obama is not the one to look to.

When you've got a degree in one field and those jobs go away, you end up with jobs in another career field (and sometimes with a significant pay decrease). The number of tech and auto manufacturing jobs we lost have nothing to do with the number of new hairstylist positions that opened up - it's irrelevant.

Oh, and, um, going back to college to learn the trade for a new career costs a lot of money.

:bigwhoop:

Wow, imagine how all those thousands of Egyptians felt in the way back olden days when they were out of a job due to technology?

Since the beginning of time, man has been required to learn new trades. It's nothing new and certainly not the Republicans' and/or George Bush's fault!

I voted for Ron Paul in the Primary, but the majority of the Republican Party stuck us with this god awful candidate.

What we need is a true conservative. And I don't mean any of these evangelical religious hacks (Bush), I mean a true Conservative who has read and understands the Constitution. Ron Paul and Alan Keyes come to mind.

Wow, a true bit of wisdom coming from you :yay:!
Unfortunately we are going to be stuck with these two viable candidates, McSane and Obamination, and McCain is definetly the lesser of the two evils.

"I find Barak Obama to be a very attractive candidate. I would want to vote for him. But the closer I look at his positions, the more alarmed I become. He builds himself as the candidate of change--and in a odd way he is--just not the kind of change, I think, most Americans now understand." - Dr. Al Mohler

"...we're looking at the most liberal candidate to gain a party nomination, probably in the history of this country. And on so many of the issues, far beyond where a Bill Clinton was..." - Dr. Al Mohler


The Importance of Being an Informed Voter -
Focus on the Family (http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Focus_on_the_Family/archives.asp?bcd=7/21/2008)
If Dobson is against it. It can't be all bad.