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"Multimillionaire Sean Hannity proved he's not just a loudmouthed blowhard but seriously out of touch with everyday Americans. Kudos to guest Robert Kuttner for refusing to be intimidated. From the 9/10/08 Hannity & Colmes."

You call that a meltdown? :confused: Looks like a normal night to me.

It seems the idiot attempted to outshout Hannity on Hannity's turf. Since the dude is not Bill O'Reilly, he doesn't have the technique down yet. The master at ignoring what the other guy is saying and talking away from an embarrassing question is Hussein Obama. Rewatch the O'Reilly interviews to watch the hybrid in action.

Well the one who threw the first punch was Kuttner by calling Hannity a fool and accusing him of taking his talking points from the RNC.

If he'd actually had any balls, he would have walked off the set - I half expected to see him start crying. Instead, we hear Hannity being called a "bully".

That's politics. If you're a weakling, get off TV and certainly don't show your face on political talk shows unless they're going to hold your hand and kiss your ass. This looked like a typical night on any talk show. By comparison, the McLaughlin Group is usually nothing but a shouting match for several minutes of EVERY show.

The thing that set Hannity off - and truthfully actually had me LAUGHING - is the claim that Obama is struggling to be high-minded, idealistic and staying above the mud and dirtiness and insults. That's talk - he's done nothing of the sort and it's going to get worse if he slips further in the polls.

It's always easy in politics to be nice and polite when you're beating the hell out of your oponent. The test of your mettle in politics is how you behave when the pressure is on, and you have to choose between LOSING and playing dirty.

If Obama actually had the nerve to admit he'd rather LOSE than play dirty, he still might have a chance at my vote, but I've yet to see evidence of such character in him.

You call that a meltdown? :confused: Looks like a normal night to me.

I didn't see a meltdown, at least not on Hannity's part. Guess NH doesn't watch or listen to Hannity much. :lol:

Well the one who threw the first punch was Kuttner by calling Hannity a fool and accusing him of taking his talking points from the RNC.


Hannity threw the first punch calling Kuttners point that Obama is intermittently closing the deal 'garbage'. Sean started that one.

I am not a Hannity fan.

I am not a Hannity fan.

...to be, but, the last couple years, he's just a Bush cheerleader and that means credibility out the window.

Hannity threw the first punch calling Kuttners point that Obama is intermittently closing the deal 'garbage'. Sean started that one.

He wasn't attacking KUTTNER. If something is BS, you might as well say so. Dusting off Obama's halo is BS.

I consider it throwing the first punch when you get personal - you fool!

I'm not crazy about Hannity for a lot of reasons - for one, listening to his show, it seems like he just reads right off the Drudge Report and nothing else, and he's gone on too long with Rev Wright, William Ayers and a lot of ancillary issues.

But I certainly have no patience with any Obama cheerleading either when they try the pious fiction about him being too high-minded. Obama is getting nastier by the day. Yesterday Hannity had a die-hard liberal caller who's called him for months and has dusted up with him frequently - admit that while he may not vote for McCain, the bloom is definitely off the rose for Obama.

...to be, but, the last couple years, he's just a Bush cheerleader and that means credibility out the window.

He has points then he turns around and is an idiot. I have no problem with him defending Bush where Bush is defensible because I think Bush is getting a bad rap because Bush hating is the in thing. He gets way too wound up on silly shiat like the recent lipstick drama.

He wasn't attacking KUTTNER. If something is BS, you might as well say so. Dusting off Obama's halo is BS.

I consider it throwing the first punch when you get personal - you fool!

I'm not crazy about Hannity for a lot of reasons - for one, listening to his show, it seems like he just reads right off the Drudge Report and nothing else, and he's gone on too long with Rev Wright, William Ayers and a lot of ancillary issues.

But I certainly have no patience with any Obama cheerleading either when they try the pious fiction about him being too high-minded. Obama is getting nastier by the day. Yesterday Hannity had a die-hard liberal caller who's called him for months and has dusted up with him frequently - admit that while he may not vote for McCain, the bloom is definitely off the rose for Obama.


...I heard was Allen and Kuttner have a reasonable conversation. Kuttner didn't claim Obama walked on water. He didn't say Obama is being unfairly attacked. He was just saying, in his opinion, that Obama should be running on narrative, not issues, and Allen said he's just not closing the deal and Kuttner said he is, sorta and Sean jumps in all indignant calling it crap instead of the obvious;

"He's not closing the deal because it's a bad deal."

Bully boy is a good label for Sean because he choose to be pushy rather than have a conversation and win on ideas.

He has points then he turns around and is an idiot. I have no problem with him defending Bush where Bush is defensible because I think Bush is getting a bad rap because Bush hating is the in thing. He gets way too wound up on silly shiat like the recent lipstick drama.

Well exactly. I used to prefer to listen to Jerry Doyle on the ride home, who was opposite Hannity, but he's not on the local radio anymore. He used to refer to this as "grapefruit mentality", on the idea that if every network trained its camera on a grapefruit, everyone else would because it's "news". Thus we have the headlines overburdened with idiotic news stories about runaway brides and Paris Hilton and salacious gossip, instead of real stories. We have people like Sean ignoring the several dozen legitimate reasons not to vote for Obama by wasting entirely too much time on minutiae.

But I do listen to Sean for one primary reason - he gets the best *guests* on his show. That makes it worth listening to.

I love the intro:

We watch Fox so you don't have to.

:roflmao:

He has points then he turns around and is an idiot. I have no problem with him defending Bush where Bush is defensible because I think Bush is getting a bad rap because Bush hating is the in thing. He gets way too wound up on silly shiat like the recent lipstick drama.

...right. Sean could sit there every night and focus on how Iraq was a reasonable, widely support decision and the problem was execution but he, and most everybody else on the right, are terrified to talk in those terms. They wanna insist on polishing the turd instead of arguing the facts; not enough troops, not enough force, needed to win the war before rebuilding, etc. and then that leaves the question where it should be "Now what?" instead of this sense of just drifting forward and things will work out.

Same with the economy. An oil president and an oil veep have lead us to $100-150 a barrel oil sucking far more dollars out of our economy than the wars.

He has points then he turns around and is an idiot. I have no problem with him defending Bush where Bush is defensible because I think Bush is getting a bad rap because Bush hating is the in thing. He gets way too wound up on silly shiat like the recent lipstick drama.

:yeahthat: I actually see Sean as one of those people who will argue if a Dem says that the sky is blue. Of course, since he is arguing with Dems, he is correct more often than not :lol:

I love the intro:

We watch Fox so you don't have to.

:roflmao:

It's hysterical to me too, but probably for a different reason.

Imagine you're a die-hard liberal. Imagine then you come across a right-wing blog that claims to cull material from the Daily Kos, the Huffington Post and other liberal sites, making the remark "we read this liberal crap so you don't have to". What would you think?

You'd think those damned fools can't think for themselves, or are so personally offended by someone taking an opinion opposite theirs, they have to get it second hand.

Well that's what I think.

When I come across anything from what I am sure is a biased source, and they declare "this is what THEY said", the first thing I do is check it out myself. It's always been my nature to be skeptical when something doesn't pass the smell test.

We have people like Sean ignoring the several dozen legitimate reasons not to vote for Obama by wasting entirely too much time on minutiae.

Well, here's the thing:

You have people like me who fall asleep when they start talking specific issues and get into the dry details of it all. And I'm more interested in that sort of thing than your average person (although not as much as, say, you, Larry, and Pete). So they do have to dumb it down to some extent, or nobody will watch.

For example, you all are talking about Venezuela in the other thread, and you made the comment that the Saudis might leave OPEC because of Chavez. I started to respond and ask you to give me some background on that, but then realized it would start some detailed boring postfest between you all that I can't stay awake through. :yawn:

I'm more interested in watching the libs whine about being bullied, when some conservative can hardly get a word in edgewise if they're a guest on Hardball.

It's hysterical to me too, but probably for a different reason.

Nope, same reason. :cheers:

That's why I love the internet - you don't have to rely on someone else's synopsis, you can just go read/watch it for yourself. Like this thread topic, for example. "Oh no!! Sean Hannity bullied his guest! :jameo:" Then you watch and he did nothing of the sort.

Nope, same reason. :cheers:

That's why I love the internet - you don't have to rely on someone else's synopsis, you can just go read/watch it for yourself. Like this thread topic, for example. "Oh no!! Sean Hannity bullied his guest! :jameo:" Then you watch and he did nothing of the sort.

Well that's the show every night. It may be Hannity and Colmes, but Colmes is a liberal wuss and a pushover to boot - so it might as well be Just Hannity. I can imagine what that show would be like if it was Hannity and Maher or Hannity and Carville or Hannity and Press - but it isn't. It's as predictable as Lucy and the football - Colmes comes out with a guest, they both have a kissy lovefest and look as dangerous as hamsters, and Hannity bops them on the head. Then Hannity has a guest full of piss and vinegar, they strut about and Colmes makes whiny comments and asks trite liberal talking points, and Hannity and guest thump him some more.

It's the human equivalent of the Mister Bill show.

And frankly, calling Sean a bully is like calling Charlie Brown a bully - I mean, how much of a weenie do you have to be to be bullied by Sean? I can't sympathize with anything that testosterone-deficient. They don't need sympathy, they need hospitalization. You come on his show, you better be prepared to do battle - everyone KNOWS this. You don't go on a show and come out crying "he was MEAN to me".

(On another note, Obama DID win points with me - albeit a little - by actually having the balls to go on O'Reilly. I don't recall any Democratic national figure ever having the guts to face him.)

Nope, same reason. :cheers:

That's why I love the internet - you don't have to rely on someone else's synopsis, you can just go read/watch it for yourself. Like this thread topic, for example. "Oh no!! Sean Hannity bullied his guest! :jameo:" Then you watch and he did nothing of the sort.

...did, too! Everything was respectful and rational, agree with the premise or not, it was a CONVERSATION and then linebacker Sean comes rolling in "Aw, that's crap! I'm not gonna listen to this!"

If he disagreed, he could have simply said "Obama isn't making the sale because he doesn't have the goods."

But, nooooo. He has to completely dismiss the guy and start a dust-up so people will put down the Cheetohs, right? And what happens? Does Obama lose a point because one of his defenders got bested in the debate? Does McCain lose a point because Obama does have a good idea?

No. There was a bunch of fireworks started by Hannity and nobody knows what the hell they're talking about other than Sean said the guy is full of it without showing why.


:bigwhoop:

- Colmes comes out with a guest, they both have a kissy lovefest and look as dangerous as hamsters, and Hannity bops them on the head. Then Hannity has a guest full of piss and vinegar, they strut about and Colmes makes whiny comments and asks trite liberal talking points, and Hannity and guest thump him some more.


PERFECT!!!! :killingme

Well that's the show every night. It may be Hannity and Colmes, but Colmes is a liberal wuss and a pushover to boot - so it might as well be Just Hannity. I can imagine what that show would be like if it was Hannity and Maher or Hannity and Carville or Hannity and Press - but it isn't. It's as predictable as Lucy and the football - Colmes comes out with a guest, they both have a kissy lovefest and look as dangerous as hamsters, and Hannity bops them on the head. Then Hannity has a guest full of piss and vinegar, they strut about and Colmes makes whiny comments and asks trite liberal talking points, and Hannity and guest thump him some more.

It's the human equivalent of the Mister Bill show.

And frankly, calling Sean a bully is like calling Charlie Brown a bully - I mean, how much of a weenie do you have to be to be bullied by Sean? I can't sympathize with anything that testosterone-deficient. They don't need sympathy, they need hospitalization. You come on his show, you better be prepared to do battle - everyone KNOWS this. You don't go on a show and come out crying "he was MEAN to me".

(On another note, Obama DID win points with me - albeit a little - by actually having the balls to go on O'Reilly. I don't recall any Democratic national figure ever having the guts to face him.)
You mean other than Hillary?

You mean other than Hillary?

He's had Hillary on there? I wish I'd seen that.

He's had Hillary on there? I wish I'd seen that.

It was uninteresting. He loved her up and softballed her, not nearly as good as the Obama interview.

LOL, saw it last night... :killingme

GO, get out, hahahahahaha

"Multimillionaire Sean Hannity ...."

Them nasty ole multimillionaires ...

Hannity ought to be ashamed of himself.


Multimillionaire Indeed!!!