View Full Version : Raffle tickets for my car ?
gsxr2005
02-04-2009, 10:00 PM
I had an Idea , I know it may seem kinda wacked but thought about it .
Have a car raffle ! $20 per ticket. Goal is to get atleast 500 Tickets sold !
Car Details its an 04 Saab 93 Linear Fully loaded ! Auto Trans , 2nd Owner. Mile may seem high but are 92% highway !!!
Think it could fly ? I mean its not a scam and I would give test rides not let people test drive due to insurance and things among that matter. I would like input on this !
Tilted
02-04-2009, 10:07 PM
I had an Idea , I know it may seem kinda wacked but thought about it .
Have a car raffle ! $20 per ticket. Goal is to get atleast 500 Tickets sold !
Car Details its an 04 Saab 93 Linear Fully loaded ! Auto Trans , 2nd Owner. Mile may seem high but are 92% highway !!!
Think it could fly ? I mean its not a scam and I would give test rides not let people test drive due to insurance and things among that matter. I would like input on this !
I'm not sure that would be legal.
sunflower
02-04-2009, 10:08 PM
I'm not buying unless Im driving it...
sunflower
02-04-2009, 10:09 PM
A 2004 isnt worth $10,000 to me...
gsxr2005
02-04-2009, 10:14 PM
What you mean legal ? It should be there aint nothing wrong with it ! People raffle things off all the time !
And for the $10,000. Its a well takin care of car !
Test Drivers would sign a wavier saying that if they wreck it or damage it they would be held responseable for it.
Its just an Idea
Dukesdad
02-04-2009, 10:17 PM
What would you do if you didn't sell enough tickets?
gsxr2005
02-04-2009, 10:20 PM
I dont know that yet !!! LOL . I guess I need to figure that out huh. Maybe refund the money ! I really dont know .
MysticalMom
02-04-2009, 10:20 PM
I just heard a story on the radio last week where someone in Edgewater, MD did that with their house. Supposedly the guy sold 24000 tickets for 100 bucks a piece.
And he's giving 10% to charity.
gsxr2005
02-04-2009, 10:24 PM
I would consider doing that if the proceeds went over 9k . What ever was left I would donate to a charity possibly Make A Wish Foundation. Or Special olympics .
Tilted
02-04-2009, 10:38 PM
What you mean legal ? It should be there aint nothing wrong with it ! People raffle things off all the time !
Are you in Maryland? I'm fairly certain that a raffle is considered gambling under Maryland law. There are specific exceptions written into the law, which vary from county to county, for things such as fire departments, charitable organizations, and political campaigns. Maryland is on the stricter end of the spectrum when it comes to gambling.
aps45819
02-04-2009, 10:45 PM
A 2004 isnt worth $10,000 to me...
Don't buy all the tickets
Tilted
02-04-2009, 10:45 PM
I've done a little quick research, and it does appear that a raffle of personal property is not legal in Maryland. A charitable organization could conduct a raffle, but an ordinary citizen could not. In theory, you might be able to have a charity agree to buy the car from you, and then raffle it themselves.
gsxr2005
02-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Okay I checked this out .
Raffles of real Property & Personal Property (http://www.sos.state.md.us/Charity/Raffles.htm)
Correct me please if I am wrong ! I am in St.Marys county , they dont have permits for raffle's . I dont see any place that it says against the law !
unixpirate
02-05-2009, 12:04 AM
I had an Idea , I know it may seem kinda wacked but thought about it .
Have a car raffle ! $20 per ticket. Goal is to get atleast 500 Tickets sold !
Car Details its an 04 Saab 93 Linear Fully loaded ! Auto Trans , 2nd Owner. Mile may seem high but are 92% highway !!!
Think it could fly ? I mean its not a scam and I would give test rides not let people test drive due to insurance and things among that matter. I would like input on this !
:bs:
gsxr2005
02-05-2009, 12:19 AM
:bs:
Call it if you may. But I know what i have sitting here ! And I know that I aint scamming anyone or bsing anyone . :howdy: come by and check it out for yourself
misshelper
02-05-2009, 12:29 AM
Call it if you may. But I know what i have sitting here ! And I know that I aint scamming anyone or bsing anyone . :howdy: come by and check it out for yourself
Yeah but think about what you are doing...I wouldn't buy a raffle, it just seems shady....IMO
unixpirate
02-05-2009, 12:33 AM
Call it if you may. But I know what i have sitting here ! And I know that I aint scamming anyone or bsing anyone . :howdy: come by and check it out for yourself
I'm selling my house for a $100 raffle. I need 390 people to just come clean!
HELLO!!!!!
Tilted
02-05-2009, 12:39 AM
Okay I checked this out .
Raffles of real Property & Personal Property (http://www.sos.state.md.us/Charity/Raffles.htm)
Correct me please if I am wrong ! I am in St.Marys county , they dont have permits for raffle's . I dont see any place that it says against the law !
That page provides guidance for charities when doing raffles. In St. Mary's County, they just don't have to get a permit to raffle personal property, which is required in other counties. It's still not legal for a citizen to conduct a raffle, because it is considered gambling which is prohibited by § 12-102 (http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll/mdcode/9169/9c83/9c85/9c8b?f=templates&fn=document-frame.htm&2.0#JD_cr12-102) of the Maryland Criminal Law Code, to wit:
(a) Prohibited.- A person may not:
(1) bet, wager, or gamble;
(2) make or sell a book or pool on the result of a race, contest, or contingency;
(3) establish, keep, rent, use, or occupy, or knowingly allow to be established, kept, rented, used, or occupied, all or a part of a building, vessel, or place, on land or water, within the State, for the purpose of:
(i) betting, wagering, or gambling; or
(ii) making, selling, or buying books or pools on the result of a race, contest, or contingency; or
(4) receive, become the depository of, record, register, or forward, or propose, agree, or pretend to forward, money or any other thing or consideration of value, to be bet, wagered, or gambled on the result of a race, contest, or contingency.
In Maryland, it isn't legal to participate in or operate a game of chance, with things of value on the line.
There are a number of exceptions spelled out in Maryland Code (http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&2.0), Criminal Law, Titles 12 and 13. Specifically among those are 'raffles' conducted under certain conditions and by certain organizations. If 'raffles' were not illegal by virtue of 12-102, then they wouldn't need to specify certain raffles as being legal exceptions, and not others
If you look around enough, you should be able to find different sources that indicate that raffles aren't legal in Maryland. Such as this (http://www.president.umd.edu/legal/raffles.html) page from the University of Maryland. I'm sure there are other, better sources of confirmation out there.
If you have any doubt, then I suggest you contact the District Attorney's office and ask them. Hopefully, they would be able to give you a definitive answer.
All that being said, you probably could have a charitable organization raffle it - but I think they would have to agree up front to pay you a certain price, and take their chances selling enough tickets to cover it. Or, in the alternative, their purchase from you could be contingent on them selling enough tickets to cover it, in which case you would have to have an appraisal to justify their purchase price. At least, that is how it works with real property - perhaps personal property is different.
gsxr2005
02-05-2009, 09:03 AM
That page provides guidance for charities when doing raffles. In St. Mary's County, they just don't have to get a permit to raffle personal property, which is required in other counties. It's still not legal for a citizen to conduct a raffle, because it is considered gambling which is prohibited by § 12-102 (http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll/mdcode/9169/9c83/9c85/9c8b?f=templates&fn=document-frame.htm&2.0#JD_cr12-102) of the Maryland Criminal Law Code, to wit:
In Maryland, it isn't legal to participate in or operate a game of chance, with things of value on the line.
There are a number of exceptions spelled out in Maryland Code (http://www.michie.com/maryland/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&2.0), Criminal Law, Titles 12 and 13. Specifically among those are 'raffles' conducted under certain conditions and by certain organizations. If 'raffles' were not illegal by virtue of 12-102, then they wouldn't need to specify certain raffles as being legal exceptions, and not others
If you look around enough, you should be able to find different sources that indicate that raffles aren't legal in Maryland. Such as this (http://www.president.umd.edu/legal/raffles.html) page from the University of Maryland. I'm sure there are other, better sources of confirmation out there.
If you have any doubt, then I suggest you contact the District Attorney's office and ask them. Hopefully, they would be able to give you a definitive answer.
All that being said, you probably could have a charitable organization raffle it - but I think they would have to agree up front to pay you a certain price, and take their chances selling enough tickets to cover it. Or, in the alternative, their purchase from you could be contingent on them selling enough tickets to cover it, in which case you would have to have an appraisal to justify their purchase price. At least, that is how it works with real property - perhaps personal property is different.
Well thanks for your help. I am going to contact them further just to make sure. It was just a thought to .
4d2008
02-05-2009, 09:08 AM
Ill drop 20 bucks in a jar I dont care. Ive wasted more on worse things. :ohwell:
jsouthan
02-05-2009, 09:34 AM
I just heard a story on the radio last week where someone in Edgewater, MD did that with their house. Supposedly the guy sold 24000 tickets for 100 bucks a piece.
And he's giving 10% to charity.
From my understanding, the non-profit ran the raffle, with the understanding that they would get any proceeds above a certain point or, as I guess happened a percentage if it didn't reach the sellers threshold point. I think all raffles have to be done by non-profits. I don't think they have to purchase the item, just be in charge of the raffle and receiving any proceeds.
gsxr2005
02-05-2009, 09:50 AM
this might be the one that the guy sold in edgewater.
Links to Current Home Raffles | USA Home Raffle (http://www.usahomeraffle.com/CurrentRaffles.asp)
Look I will do what I have to and tryo to do this and see how it works.
Contacting the District Att. And Court House today about it .
But I will donate what is left over to charity .
Tilted
02-05-2009, 09:56 AM
Well thanks for your help. I am going to contact them further just to make sure. It was just a thought to .
That's probably the best way to proceed. Good luck.
Tilted
02-05-2009, 10:06 AM
From my understanding, the non-profit ran the raffle, with the understanding that they would get any proceeds above a certain point or, as I guess happened a percentage if it didn't reach the sellers threshold point. I think all raffles have to be done by non-profits. I don't think they have to purchase the item, just be in charge of the raffle and receiving any proceeds.
In order to raffle real property they either have to have title to it of the ability to convey title to it. And I think they have to be a charitable organization in order to raffle real property, so not all non-profits would qualify.
The exact rules for personal property aren't quite as clear to me, but I believe that any of the following can conduct a raffle:
(c) Qualified organization.- "Qualified organization" means:
(1) a volunteer fire company; or
(2) a bona fide:
(i) religious organization;
(ii) fraternal organization;
(iii) civic organization;
(iv) war veterans' organization; or
(v) charitable organization.
gsxr2005
02-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Well thanks ! I deff thank you guys for finding out this for me . good looking out !
MistysDaddy08
02-06-2009, 01:38 PM
how about raffling off a Fire Truck....
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