For those of you who didn't read my previous post,my husband is bi-polar,among other things I suspect being wrong but are not yet diagnosed. We have been living with his mood swings for a long time. Today I got an email from my daughters teacher saying she was behind in one of her classes. I decided to go get a pizza for dinner and took her with me to talk on the way. As soon as we began to talk,she started crying..not a little,but to the point she could not be understood. She let loose a flood of info,from how she feels like she can't talk in school for fear of being ridiculed or beaten up by the "ghetto kids"(Spring Ridge) to our home life. And therein lies the kicker. She tells me that she is miserable the way things are and she wishes I would leave her dad. She tells me how I tell her to stand up to bullies and yet I tolerate all sorts of crap from him. She pretty much lets me know how destructive he and his mood swings are to her and her sister. I felt so bad. I feel like a failure as a parent...if he were sexually or physically abusing them I would be out the door,but for some stupid reason I feel more like his parent than his wife and I feel responsible for him. I feel like I owe it to him to stay. Before any of you think that he is in a bad mood once every few months,let me explain what we live with. He fluctuates between being really hyper and wanting to do EVERYTHING...RIGHT NOW...to the worst,most miserable lows. And the lows last and last...sometimes two or three weeks at a time. He will fly off the handle over anything...and this will range from him crying and going on and on about how he hates his life to throwing things,kicking our pets,mimicking me and insulting me until I cry,etc. I hate that he is bi-polar because during the highs,he is the man I married,but we hardly see those anymore. I feel awful for putting this person in my kids lives,and now I know I need to leave him. I guess at the end of this long a$$ story,I just want to hear from someone else that I am not some jerk who is walking out on her sick husband and that leaving is right.

Is he taking medication for the Bi-Polar disorder and taking it regulary?

Is he taking medication for the Bi-Polar disorder and taking it regulary?

No. He absolutely refuses to do anything. No counseling,no meds,nothing. When I threaten to leave,I get either sexual advances and him saying "Baby,nothign is wrong..everytihng is fine", or I get "F-you...get out,I hate my life,etc.".

No. He absolutely refuses to do anything. No counseling,no meds,nothing. When I threaten to leave,I get either sexual advances and him saying "Baby,nothign is wrong..everytihng is fine", or I get "F-you...get out,I hate my life,etc.".

If he's not taking meds and refuses any help, it's only going to get worse. Get out before it gets physical, if it hasn't already. If you don't think of yourself, at least think of your kids safety.

Any maybe your leaving will be a wake up call and he'll realize he should get help, if he doesn't, then he just doesn't care about you or the kids and then that will make leaving all the more worth it.

Why do ppl feel the need to post personal stuff like this?

Why do ppl feel the need to post personal stuff like this?

Why do ppl feel the need to read and comment on it if they think it is wrong? For me,my family and friends are biased..they either love him or hate him. You all are neutral. Well,most. Not the ones who have nothing to contribute.

If he's not taking meds and refuses any help, it's only going to get worse. Get out before it gets physical, if it hasn't already. If you don't think of yourself, at least think of your kids safety.

Any maybe your leaving will be a wake up call and he'll realize he should get help, if he doesn't, then he just doesn't care about you or the kids and then that will make leaving all the more worth it.

:yeahthat: Your kids need you and your hubby is an adult & he can take care of himself.
Can she maybe video tape a couple of his episodes and use that for forced committment. :shrug:

Why do ppl feel the need to post personal stuff like this?

cheaper then counseling

If he is not taking any medications and refuses to get help then leave. In my opinion (which I know everyone has one) he does not care about you or his kids enough if he is not willing to get the help he needs to be stable for you guys.

You said if he was sexually or physically abusive you would leave. Well has it ever crossed your mind that he could be considered abusive even if he is not touching you guys. His words can do just as much if not more damage than his hands can. While he has something that causes it I believe that most people are in control of themselves and responsible for their actions. If he knows he has this problem and does nothing to correct it he stands responsible for everything he does and you should not feel like you have to take care of him.

If he is not taking any medications and refuses to get help then leave. In my opinion (which I know everyone has one) he does not care about you or his kids enough if he is not willing to get the help he needs to be stable for you guys.

:yeahthat:

My family situation is very similar. My dad is bi-polar and has a hell of a lot of issues so I can understand where you are coming from. Fortunately my dad does go to counseling and is taking medication, which does help a lot. I do not want to recommend that you leave your husband, as I believe marriage means something, but maybe you need to take a break in order from him to realize what he is actually losing, and maybe then he'll get help.

Have you ever thought about or been to counseling to figure out what you should or can be doing to better help his situation? Maybe you should sit down with your husband and talk to him about the conversation you just had with your daughter.

I have sought help for myself and got him to go meet the therapist on one occasion..after meeting him I was told that there was nothing I could do for him,and that I should leave. I did discuss this with him,or try and as I was speaking he got up and walked out of the room,mumbling "#####,#####,#####,..I wish you all would leave" under his breath.

I have sought help for myself and got him to go meet the therapist on one occasion..after meeting him I was told that there was nothing I could do for him,and that I should leave. I did discuss this with him,or try and as I was speaking he got up and walked out of the room,mumbling "#####,#####,#####,..I wish you all would leave" under his breath.

That right there show what you need to do. You didn't have to come on here to realized it's time to leave. It's not going to get better, especially if he doesn't get help, it's only going to get worse and someone is going to get hurt.

I have sought help for myself and got him to go meet the therapist on one occasion..after meeting him I was told that there was nothing I could do for him,and that I should leave. I did discuss this with him,or try and as I was speaking he got up and walked out of the room,mumbling "#####,#####,#####,..I wish you all would leave" under his breath.

Was he in one of his good moods at this time? Maybe you should try discussing it when he is on a high not a low. You know what he is feeling and what his thinking is at that point. Bring it up when you are with the man you remember marrying. As far as the therapist telling you to leave therapists dont always know everything.

Was he in one of his good moods at this time? Maybe you should try discussing it when he is on a high not a low. You know what he is feeling and what his thinking is at that point. Bring it up when you are with the man you remember marrying. As far as the therapist telling you to leave therapists dont always know everything.

When he is down,he does not care. When he is up,there is no problem and there is no way anyone could ever convince him there was. He acts as if he is unaware of any problems at all when he is up.

If he's not taking meds and refuses any help, it's only going to get worse. Get out before it gets physical, if it hasn't already. If you don't think of yourself, at least think of your kids safety.

Any maybe your leaving will be a wake up call and he'll realize he should get help, if he doesn't, then he just doesn't care about you or the kids and then that will make leaving all the more worth it.

:yeahthat: He's an adult who needs help but won't/can't admit it. Some will say he's incapable of realizing that he needs help due to his mental state. It's really difficult to help someone who thinks they can do no wrong. Been there, done that. So has my hubby. We both have Ex's who are Bipolar, among other things. We both stayed w/ our Ex's for too long trying to help them. Guess what? Neither one of us could help them because in their warped minds, they didn't have a problem. It only gets worse as time goes on. Trust me, I know from experience.

Do what's right for you & your kids, screw what anyone else thinks of your decision. Either slip pills into his breakfast every day or maybe see if leaving gets him to try therapy/meds. My Ex fiance never would take meds but luckily, I didn't live w/ him. As for hubby, he slept in the guest room w/ the door baricaded so his psychotic ex wife couldn't kill him in his sleep. She tried to run him over, then he finally left her before she completely destroyed his life. She spent a few stints in psych wards but still felt she was normal. She would take her meds, then stop when she "felt better". Then the cycle continued. Her 2 sons (not hubby's kids) are screwed up because of her mental issues. Luckily for them, hubby was around for 7 yrs to give them some sort of stability in their early yrs.

Good luck, I know you have a tough decision to make here. :huggy:

Why do ppl feel the need to post personal stuff like this?

Because they want me to get on here and tell them to STFU. That's why. :shrug:

So how are you tonight?

Why would you ask us dumb a$$ people for advice to make you feel better about yourself?You should seek professional help and maybe it will help your whole family!!!:shocking::shocking:

Because they want me to get on here and tell them to STFU. That's why. :shrug:

So how are you tonight?

I'm ok, just bored. You?

I'm ok, just bored. You?

I'm ok. I just got home from class (continuing Ed.)

I will pray the Rosary tonight for a friend of mine.

Why would you ask us dumb a$$ people for advice to make you feel better about yourself?You should seek professional help and maybe it will help your whole family!!!:shocking::shocking:

I only see one dumbass here.:howdy:

I'm ok. I just got home from class (continuing Ed.)

I will pray the Rosary tonight for a friend of mine.

Cool, sounds like a plan.

Any friend I may know (of)?

Only thing I got to say about this is....GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND TAKE YOUR KIDS WITH YOU NOW!!!!!!

My dad was bi-polar and trust me, it got bad before he passed away....don't put yourself and your kids through that

I have sought help for myself and got him to go meet the therapist on one occasion..after meeting him I was told that there was nothing I could do for him,and that I should leave. I did discuss this with him,or try and as I was speaking he got up and walked out of the room,mumbling "#####,#####,#####,..I wish you all would leave" under his breath.

This is affecting you and your entire family especially your children much more than you even thought by your original post. The children aren't blind and watch and learn. if he is not willing to help himself and family it is time for you to take the kids and leave. Hopefully the situation will not get violent for you or the children to realize this.

I really hope this is a joke thread. WHY would you put your kids through this? If he is kicking the animals and making you cry, do you think it's good for the kids to see that? If you're too stupid or stubborn to leave for yourself then do it for the kids. He obviously doesn't care or he would be on meds.

I really hope this is a joke thread. WHY would you put your kids through this? If he is kicking the animals and making you cry, do you think it's good for the kids to see that? If you're too stupid or stubborn to leave for yourself then do it for the kids. He obviously doesn't care or he would be on meds.

Unfortunately,no it is not a joke. But,I appreciate those of you who PMed me and gave some feedback..thanks for the clarity. I think sometimes making a big step is easier when at least one person agrees and says it is right-I catch a lot of flak from my family,to them as long as he pays the bills,I should take whatever he dishes out,so I don't have any support,really. Thanks again.

Nobody should feel they have to live their life on egg shells! :ohwell:

I really hope this is a joke thread. WHY would you put your kids through this? If he is kicking the animals and making you cry, do you think it's good for the kids to see that? If you're too stupid or stubborn to leave for yourself then do it for the kids. He obviously doesn't care or he would be on meds.

Because as someone who has lived with and through this very same type of situation, It is much easier said than done. I cried more tears, lived in fear that I could not even describe etc. All because I was in fear that the threats he made would one day come true.

Please do not be so harsh to someone who is just reaching out for a bit of hope and understanding. It took me six years and a chain of numerous events to be free of that situation. In the end the one person who helped me the most was my ex's mother. I am still close to her and her husband to this day as well as all of my ex's siblings and even now my ex himself as he finally got the help he needed.

I look back know almost five years later and am ashamed that I was so weak to not go sooner. In retrspect I had hope it would all work out and it didn't. I laid all the cards on the table in June of 2004 and stated that I would stay if he got help. He chose not to and I finally had reached my last straw.

It so pisses me off that people who have never lived in these types of situations can be so judgemental and flippant in saying well just leave. So someone explain to me where is a woman with kids supposed to go when she make's 30k a year but has two kids in daycare and a teenager. Where can you live bringing home 550.00 per week, paying utilities, providing food and necessities, insurance premiums and all the other exspenses of life. People in this income range get next to nothing in assistance.

Oh I am sure it's easy to say go to court and get child support. So what do you do if the other person doesn't work, won't work or evade the law? It is so easy to say just go. This is real life though and in most cases it is not that easy.

Yeah in the end I should have made better choices but in reality mental illness' have their peaks and valley's. It can take years before the true signs come out.

I have been reading some of your past posts and I am really confused. You believe in open marriage - you owe over 8K in insurance violations - you have never had a checking account because you were afraid they would take your money - you are overdue for free pap smear which you waited until the last minute to make the appointment... and you are just now searching for a peditrician that takes gov't provided insurance.
You posted that your daughter was crying uncontrollably and to me it sounded like she almost had an hormonal/emotional breakdown because of your lack of motivation to get your azz out of an unhealthy situation. But yet instead of consoling her, here you sit posting crap to people who do not agree with you. Go sit & talk with your daughter now!
Now I really have to ask myself, is this person that is baring her soul for real? Or is she the one with a problem? :shrug:
If your bi-polar hubby is not a figment of your imagination, then get off your azz and do something about it instead of relying on advice from strangers on the net.

If the reason you are setting up your bank account, gotten the insurance, and researching doctors that accept it. Is because you are completing the steps to make your leaving transition easier THEN GOOD FOR YOU!

It so pisses me off that people who have never lived in these types of situations can be so judgemental and flippant in saying well just leave. So someone explain to me where is a woman with kids supposed to go when she make's 30k a year but has two kids in daycare and a teenager. Where can you live bringing home 550.00 per week, paying utilities, providing food and necessities, insurance premiums and all the other exspenses of life. People in this income range get next to nothing in assistance.

Oh I am sure it's easy to say go to court and get child support. So what do you do if the other person doesn't work, won't work or evade the law? It is so easy to say just go. This is real life though and in most cases it is not that easy.

Yeah in the end I should have made better choices but in reality mental illness' have their peaks and valley's. It can take years before the true signs come out.

I'm sorry, but I can honestly say I would never stay with someone who was abusive to me, especially if I had kids. It's not hard. :shrug: There are programs for women and children. Food stamps, daycare assistance, etc. It would be better to live in a 1 bedroom apartment with no TV and hand-me-down clothes than to stay with an abusive person who may permanently cause my children (or me) harm.

I'm sorry, but I can honestly say I would never stay with someone who was abusive to me, especially if I had kids. It's not hard. :shrug: There are programs for women and children. Food stamps, daycare assistance, etc. It would be better to live in a 1 bedroom apartment with no TV and hand-me-down clothes than to stay with an abusive person who may permanently cause my children (or me) harm.


it just is not such a cookie cutter answer. If you have not been there than you can't relate with that level of emotion. I also hope that is something that you never have to know.

This is not about me, I simply shared my perspective from my past. Maybe the orginal poster justs needs to know that there is a light on the other side of that tunnel.

Would you be willing to open your door for a mother and her kids in need, if it meant that she got out? I would and will, if needed.

Because as someone who has lived with and through this very same type of situation, It is much easier said than done. I cried more tears, lived in fear that I could not even describe etc. All because I was in fear that the threats he made would one day come true.

Please do not be so harsh to someone who is just reaching out for a bit of hope and understanding. It took me six years and a chain of numerous events to be free of that situation. In the end the one person who helped me the most was my ex's mother. I am still close to her and her husband to this day as well as all of my ex's siblings and even now my ex himself as he finally got the help he needed.

I look back know almost five years later and am ashamed that I was so weak to not go sooner. In retrspect I had hope it would all work out and it didn't. I laid all the cards on the table in June of 2004 and stated that I would stay if he got help. He chose not to and I finally had reached my last straw.

It so pisses me off that people who have never lived in these types of situations can be so judgemental and flippant in saying well just leave. So someone explain to me where is a woman with kids supposed to go when she make's 30k a year but has two kids in daycare and a teenager. Where can you live bringing home 550.00 per week, paying utilities, providing food and necessities, insurance premiums and all the other exspenses of life. People in this income range get next to nothing in assistance.

Oh I am sure it's easy to say go to court and get child support. So what do you do if the other person doesn't work, won't work or evade the law? It is so easy to say just go. This is real life though and in most cases it is not that easy.

Yeah in the end I should have made better choices but in reality mental illness' have their peaks and valley's. It can take years before the true signs come out.

You're right. It is easy for people to judge others when they haven't been in a specific situation. I'm guilty of it at times as well.

I understand what you went through to a great extent, although I didn't have kids in the picture. It's ironic that it also took me 6 yrs to walk away from my past crappy relationship & that I also walked away in June 2004, just like you. I guess we both opened our eyes & started to live our lives at the same time. Now, life is good & I too realize that I should've left my ex a lot sooner than I did. Many times, I feel like a complete idiot for having dealt with his crap for so long. I hope the OP can find the strength to do what's right for her kids.

I'm sorry, but I can honestly say I would never stay with someone who was abusive to me, especially if I had kids. It's not hard. :shrug: There are programs for women and children. Food stamps, daycare assistance, etc. It would be better to live in a 1 bedroom apartment with no TV and hand-me-down clothes than to stay with an abusive person who may permanently cause my children (or me) harm.

It's hard when he threatens to hurt you or even kill you if you leave. Oh and btw that wonderful piece of paper won't save you either. I'm just sayin'.

Do you want to spend the rest of your life unhappy? Do you want your kids to be unhappy and resentful? I would leave him in hopes that he would wake up and get the help he needs. I'm sure it will be difficult but no one said life is easy. You deserve to be happy and if you have tried everything you shouldn't sit around beating yourself up.

I'm not sure if anyone asked this but does he have relatives around? Habe they confronted him?

You're right. It is easy for people to judge others when they haven't been in a specific situation. I'm guilty of it at times as well.

I understand what you went through to a great extent, although I didn't have kids in the picture. It's ironic that it also took me 6 yrs to walk away from my past crappy relationship & that I also walked away in June 2004, just like you. I guess we both opened our eyes & started to live our lives at the same time. Now, life is good & I too realize that I should've left my ex a lot sooner than I did. Many times, I feel like a complete idiot for having dealt with his crap for so long. I hope the OP can find the strength to do what's right for her kids.

:huggy: I pride myself in having lived, and learned and most importantly gaining the inner strenghth to be a survivor.

I really hope this is a joke thread. WHY would you put your kids through this? If he is kicking the animals and making you cry, do you think it's good for the kids to see that? If you're too stupid or stubborn to leave for yourself then do it for the kids. He obviously doesn't care or he would be on meds.

You're so good and nice and stuff. I was looking for a nice way to tell her she was a douche for letting her kids be exposed to such a person/environment. It's a very foolish person who thinks they can "love somebody better."

It's hard when he threatens to hurt you or even kill you if you leave. Oh and btw that wonderful piece of paper won't save you either. I'm just sayin'.


That's the biggest cop-out b/s I've ever heard. You never know if you don't try now do ya? It's a sorry excuse to stay. You live in fear EITHER way. :coffee:

That's the biggest cop-out b/s I've ever heard. You never know if you don't try now do ya? It's a sorry excuse to stay. You live in fear EITHER way. :coffee:

But hey, atleast you won't have to live in fear anymore if you are dead...:lol:

But hey, atleast you won't have to live in fear anymore if you are dead...:lol:

I'd rather die trying to better my life and the life of my kids than roll over and let our lives be miserable. :diva:

I'd rather die trying to better my life and the life of my kids than roll over and let our lives be miserable. :diva:

So who takes care of the kids if he kills you? Or what if he kills the kids too? Then what? :popcorn:

So who takes care of the kids if he kills you? Or what if he kills the kids too? Then what? :popcorn:

If he kills all of us than it really doesn't matter to us now does it? If he kills me then my kids go to my sister who is very capable of raising them. What if I die in a car accident tomorrow? Same thing happens to them. It could happen and I'd be willing to bet my chances are higher getting killed in a wreck than some man killing me. I'd venture to bet the statistics of men who actually kill their estranged women to those who just threaten are pretty low. I use reason opposed to being a drama queen who looks for sympathy.

If he kills all of us than it really doesn't matter to us now does it? If he kills me then my kids go to my sister who is very capable of raising them. What if I die in a car accident tomorrow? Same thing happens to them. It could happen and I'd be willing to bet my chances are higher getting killed in a wreck than some man killing me. I'd venture to bet the statistics of men who actually kill their estranged women to those who just threaten are pretty low. I use reason opposed to being a drama queen who looks for sympathy.

That's awesome. There has been a few, ok maybe more then a few cases here in St Mary's where the guy has killed the estranged woman. I was just curious. And have you ever been in that situation? I don't remember.

That's awesome. There has been a few, ok maybe more then a few cases here in St Mary's where the guy has killed the estranged woman. I was just curious. And have you ever been in that situation? I don't remember.

Yes I have and not too long ago. There have been WAY more fatal car accidents. Are you not going to get in a car ever again? You can flavor it however you want to justify staying.

If he kills all of us than it really doesn't matter to us now does it? If he kills me then my kids go to my sister who is very capable of raising them. What if I die in a car accident tomorrow? Same thing happens to them. It could happen and I'd be willing to bet my chances are higher getting killed in a wreck than some man killing me. I'd venture to bet the statistics of men who actually kill their estranged women to those who just threaten are pretty low. I use reason opposed to being a drama queen who looks for sympathy.


Do these same feelings go for your man too? He smacked his ex around after being caught with Shutterbug. You don't think he will ever smack you? When was the last time he spent any real time with his four kids or he is too busy kissing your pretentious azz to be bothered?

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Yes I have and not too long ago. There have been WAY more fatal car accidents. Are you not going to get in a car ever again? You can flavor it however you want to justify staying.

I don't think I can really compare car accidents to DV, but that's me. :lol: And I'm not in that situation anymore, I walked. :yay:

Do these same feelings go for your man too? He smacked his ex around after being caught with Shutterbug. You don't think he will ever smack you? When was the last time he spent any real time with his four kids or he is too busy kissing your pretentious azz to be bothered?

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Us nosey ppl can't search without a name.....:killingme

Do these same feelings go for your man too? He smacked his ex around after being caught with Shutterbug. You don't think he will ever smack you? When was the last time he spent any real time with his four kids or he is too busy kissing your pretentious azz to be bothered?

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NOLLE PROSEQUI - douche.....

Not that I couldn't beat his ass anyway. :lmao:

At least know the situation/people in question before you talk smack. I've heard BOTH sides of the story. Furthermore, I'm not his psycho ex wife.

Do these same feelings go for your man too? He smacked his ex around after being caught with Shutterbug. You don't think he will ever smack you? When was the last time he spent any real time with his four kids or he is too busy kissing your pretentious azz to be bothered?

Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=4Q00033373&loc=18&detailLoc=DSCR)

:howdy: Hi, I'm new here! Donkey.

Do these same feelings go for your man too? He smacked his ex around after being caught with Shutterbug. You don't think he will ever smack you? When was the last time he spent any real time with his four kids or he is too busy kissing your pretentious azz to be bothered?

Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=4Q00033373&loc=18&detailLoc=DSCR)

The kids will be here a week from friday if you want to hang out and say hi. :howdy:

WOW----Some of you women on here are really something else. MH, PIXIE, NP--are you so uncaring because you don't believe the OP is genuine, or is it just your nature? I would hope it's not the latter. We are women--when will we start supporting one another, and stop being such #####es to one another? No matter if you think you know what you would do in her position, you do not have to belittle her, and make the remarks that you have. SHAME ON YOU WOMEN.

WOW----Some of you women on here are really something else. MH, PIXIE, NP--are you so uncaring because you don't believe the OP is genuine, or is it just your nature? I would hope it's not the latter. We are women--when will we start supporting one another, and stop being such #####es to one another? No matter if you think you know what you would do in her position, you do not have to belittle her, and make the remarks that you have. SHAME ON YOU WOMEN.

Hey! Guess what? I have been that women and guess what? I walked..TYVM.

Have a nice day!

WOW----Some of you women on here are really something else. MH, PIXIE, NP--are you so uncaring because you don't believe the OP is genuine, or is it just your nature? I would hope it's not the latter. We are women--when will we start supporting one another, and stop being such #####es to one another? No matter if you think you know what you would do in her position, you do not have to belittle her, and make the remarks that you have. SHAME ON YOU WOMEN.h

Oh, kiss my ass. I don't need to support anyone who won't support themselves or children. When the hell will we stop codling these morons? Someone needs to give them a little dose of tough love to get them off their asses to actually make a change opposed to just biatching and moaning about it.

MH if you've been there before, shouldn't you understand the uncertainty and the scared feelings of the OP? I'm not asking you to be sympathetic, but you don't need to make the remarks you've made.

PIXIE--You sound like you have so much anger and rage inside of you from your reply to me. Did anyone not help you when you were down? If not--sorry. Did you ever have any self-doubt about anything if you've gone through a similar situation? I'm not saying to cuddle and kiss her, I'm saying don't be such a BBBBB.

MH if you've been there before, shouldn't you understand the uncertainty and the scared feelings of the OP? I'm not asking you to be sympathetic, but you don't need to make the remarks you've made.
PIXIE--You sound like you have so much anger and rage inside of you from your reply to me. Did anyone not help you when you were down? If not--sorry. Did you ever have any self-doubt about anything if you've gone through a similar situation? I'm not saying to cuddle and kiss her, I'm saying don't be such a BBBBB.

And those would be what?

Your first few posts--you know what you wrote, you didn't understand why people come on here posting their business.
What is this place for? I can bet you that you or noone else on here will ever meet her, therefore why not come on here and post her business? You sounded pretty bbbbbchy with your first few posts, then you defended her when the similar situation you were in came into play (being threatened to leave).

MH if you've been there before, shouldn't you understand the uncertainty and the scared feelings of the OP? I'm not asking you to be sympathetic, but you don't need to make the remarks you've made.

PIXIE--You sound like you have so much anger and rage inside of you from your reply to me. Did anyone not help you when you were down? If not--sorry. Did you ever have any self-doubt about anything if you've gone through a similar situation? I'm not saying to cuddle and kiss her, I'm saying don't be such a BBBBB.

I don't have any hate or anger. I'm happy as a clam matter of fact. I took responsibility for my own life/happiness. I didn't have any self doubt; I knew I screwed up by marrying a donkey and I left. I have a right to be a biatch if I so choose just like the OP has the right to be a co-dependent whiner that looks for reassurance and guidance from strangers on the internet opposed to having already done right by herself and her children. We all have the right to screw up but as parents we have the responsibility to try to make it right. Get off my ass for having an opinion that doesn't cater to your fluffy feel good psychology.

That'll be $50. :lol:

Your first few posts--you know what you wrote, you didn't understand why people come on here posting their business.
What is this place for? I can bet you that you or noone else on here will ever meet her, therefore why not come on here and post her business? You sounded pretty bbbbbchy with your first few posts, then you defended her when the similar situation you were in came into play (being threatened to leave).

People post their business and life here and then can't figure out down the line how everyone knows their business.

:popcorn:

Your first few posts--you know what you wrote, you didn't understand why people come on here posting their business.
What is this place for? I can bet you that you or noone else on here will ever meet her, therefore why not come on here and post her business? You sounded pretty bbbbbchy with your first few posts, then you defended her when the similar situation you were in came into play (being threatened to leave).

And that's where you'd be wrong. A great number of people on here DO in fact know one another.

MH, since we're on the same team here, should we be shirts or skins? :lmao: MK votes for skins and is singing "take it off girl..." :killingme

And that's where you'd be wrong. A great number of people on here DO in fact know one another.

MH, since we're on the same team here, should we be shirts or skins? :lmao: MK votes for skins and is singing "take it off girl..." :killingme

Yea yea..:lol: We can be skins....

Your first few posts--you know what you wrote, you didn't understand why people come on here posting their business.
What is this place for? I can bet you that you or noone else on here will ever meet her, therefore why not come on here and post her business? You sounded pretty bbbbbchy with your first few posts, then you defended her when the similar situation you were in came into play (being threatened to leave).

You have to excuse MissHelper.....she is one of those "slow" people...............she rides on the biggest short bus in St. Mary's....

And that's where you'd be wrong. A great number of people on here DO in fact know one another.

MH, since we're on the same team here, should we be shirts or skins? :lmao: MK votes for skins and is singing "take it off girl..." :killingme

Skins.....and I am on my way over right now!!

And that's where you'd be wrong. A great number of people on here DO in fact know one another.

MH, since we're on the same team here, should we be shirts or skins? :lmao: MK votes for skins and is singing "take it off girl..." :killingme

I completely agree with you that many know one another on here. But IMO she isn't on here to make friends to go hang out with. She's asking for advice/opinions. That is why I said that if she wants to post her business - then why not.
Why would you say you 2 are on the same team? Do you feel like you need to gang up on me? Really??

Yea yea..:lol: We can be skins....

Nighty night. He's naked in bed. How does the new girl like that for posting personal business? :lol:

You have to excuse MissHelper.....she is one of those "slow" people...............she rides on the biggest short bus in St. Mary's....



Skins.....and I am on my way over right now!!

Strike 5

I completely agree with you that many know one another on here. But IMO she isn't on here to make friends to go hang out with. She's asking for advice/opinions. That is why I said that if she wants to post her business - then why not.
Why would you say you 2 are on the same team? Do you feel like you need to gang up on me? Really??

We're on the same team cause you feel the need to mommy us both. I'm obviously biatchy enough on my own that I don't need any help. :diva: And if the OP has every right to post her personal crap for everyone to see then I have the right to post my personal opinion then don't I? See the irony here?

Yea yea..:lol: We can be skins....

Pixie....yes

You.....no thanks

Pixie....yes

You.....no thanks

Stop stalking me, thanks.

Stop stalking me, thanks.

You only wish you had a stalker Corky!

You only wish you had a stalker Corky!

OMG! You just hurt my feelings...:bawl:

Bye :howdy:

I don't have any hate or anger. I'm happy as a clam matter of fact. I took responsibility for my own life/happiness. I didn't have any self doubt; I knew I screwed up by marrying a donkey and I left. I have a right to be a biatch if I so choose just like the OP has the right to be a co-dependent whiner that looks for reassurance and guidance from strangers on the internet opposed to having already done right by herself and her children. We all have the right to screw up but as parents we have the responsibility to try to make it right. Get off my ass for having an opinion that doesn't cater to your fluffy feel good psychology.

That'll be $50. :lol:

Good for you for being such a strong person who doesn't need anyone's help. I'm not mommying you--I'm giving my opinion, just as you are. BTW, I really like that "fluffy feel good pyschology" statement. Like I said before, the remarks do not need to be put in such a shtty manner. If someone you loved were receiving advice to something the same way you gave it to OP, how would you feel? I bet I know your answer: Noone I know would ask for advice to strangers--right??

Good for you for being such a strong person who doesn't need anyone's help. I'm not mommying you--I'm giving my opinion, just as you are. BTW, I really like that "fluffy feel good pyschology" statement. Like I said before, the remarks do not need to be put in such a shtty manner. If someone you loved were receiving advice to something the same way you gave it to OP, how would you feel? I bet I know your answer: Noone I know would ask for advice to strangers--right??

I for one, would not put that kinda personal info on here and actually I never have.

I for one, would not put that kinda personal info on here and actually I never have.

I probably wouldn't either--maybe she doesn't have any friends.

I probably wouldn't either--maybe she doesn't have any friends.
maybe she sucks at life.

maybe she sucks at life.

I thought you were in bed?

Good for you for being such a strong person who doesn't need anyone's help. I'm not mommying you--I'm giving my opinion, just as you are. BTW, I really like that "fluffy feel good pyschology" statement. Like I said before, the remarks do not need to be put in such a shtty manner. If someone you loved were receiving advice to something the same way you gave it to OP, how would you feel? I bet I know your answer: Noone I know would ask for advice to strangers--right??

I know plenty of people that would do such nonsense and I'd tell them they get what they ask for. AND, if a loved one came to me asking for advice on such a matter I'd give them the same straight forward no nonsense answers I have here. Caring about someone doesn't equate to blowing happiness and sunshine up their butt.

I never stated that I don't or never have needed anyone's help. I just don't prey on the sympathy of strangers to get it. Believe it or not my biatchy ass does have friends and family to go to. Most people that don't, don't because they've used to many retard credits and don't want to hear the truth so they seek out new victims to get their feel goods off. They want someone to agree with them and justify their behavior, not tell them the truth.

I thought you were in bed?

We are in bed. We're watching episodes of American Dad on the laptop. Hot hu?

We are in bed. We're watching episodes of American Dad on the laptop. Hot hu?

American Dad--hot no!!!!

Didn't mean to come off as such a fluffy person--well, actually that isn't such a bad thing!! Anyway, maybe I feel so strongly on not remarking harshly, because I can relate to her feeling so confused in the head. Not that I'm there (confused), but in the past-sure I have.

Furthermore, I'm not his psycho ex wife.

Not yet, anyway. :jet:

For those of you who didn't read my previous post,my husband is bi-polar,among other things I suspect being wrong but are not yet diagnosed. We have been living with his mood swings for a long time. Today I got an email from my daughters teacher saying she was behind in one of her classes. I decided to go get a pizza for dinner and took her with me to talk on the way. As soon as we began to talk,she started crying..not a little,but to the point she could not be understood. She let loose a flood of info,from how she feels like she can't talk in school for fear of being ridiculed or beaten up by the "ghetto kids"(Spring Ridge) to our home life. And therein lies the kicker. She tells me that she is miserable the way things are and she wishes I would leave her dad. She tells me how I tell her to stand up to bullies and yet I tolerate all sorts of crap from him. She pretty much lets me know how destructive he and his mood swings are to her and her sister. I felt so bad. I feel like a failure as a parent...if he were sexually or physically abusing them I would be out the door,but for some stupid reason I feel more like his parent than his wife and I feel responsible for him. I feel like I owe it to him to stay. Before any of you think that he is in a bad mood once every few months,let me explain what we live with. He fluctuates between being really hyper and wanting to do EVERYTHING...RIGHT NOW...to the worst,most miserable lows. And the lows last and last...sometimes two or three weeks at a time. He will fly off the handle over anything...and this will range from him crying and going on and on about how he hates his life to throwing things,kicking our pets,mimicking me and insulting me until I cry,etc. I hate that he is bi-polar because during the highs,he is the man I married,but we hardly see those anymore. I feel awful for putting this person in my kids lives,and now I know I need to leave him. I guess at the end of this long a$$ story,I just want to hear from someone else that I am not some jerk who is walking out on her sick husband and that leaving is right.

If he has become that emotionally unstable, and is unwilling to make significant efforts to address the issue, then I think you probably need to get out of the situation - especially if your children are openly communicating to you that the situation is unhealthy. Basically, his denial and laziness is more important to him than his family - and families shouldn't accept anything being more important than them.

From what you said, he is already violent (kicking the pets?), and I would imagine that the violence is likely to grow if something doesn't happen to stem the tide. Frankly, even if he wasn't doing anything other than kicking the pets, that should be enough for you to want to leave. You owe it to the pets not to keep them in that kind of situation, let alone your kids. Only a cowardly, insecure POS would kick pets - is that the kind of person you want to be an ever present example in your children's lives? Furthermore, is that the kind of person you thought you married?

Not yet, anyway. :jet:
:jet:

I guess at the end of this long a$$ story,I just want to hear from someone else that I am not some jerk who is walking out on her sick husband and that leaving is right.

You are not a jerk who is walking out on her sick husband and leaving is right.

Seriously, what are you supposed to do? There are meds he can take to regulate him, and if he refuses to do that, what can you do? Like Tilted said, you have a duty to protect your children and prevent them growing up in a life of pure hell.

For those of you who didn't read my previous post,my husband is bi-polar,among other things I suspect being wrong but are not yet diagnosed. We have been living with his mood swings for a long time. Today I got an email from my daughters teacher saying she was behind in one of her classes. I decided to go get a pizza for dinner and took her with me to talk on the way. As soon as we began to talk,she started crying..not a little,but to the point she could not be understood. She let loose a flood of info,from how she feels like she can't talk in school for fear of being ridiculed or beaten up by the "ghetto kids"(Spring Ridge) to our home life. And therein lies the kicker. She tells me that she is miserable the way things are and she wishes I would leave her dad. She tells me how I tell her to stand up to bullies and yet I tolerate all sorts of crap from him. She pretty much lets me know how destructive he and his mood swings are to her and her sister. I felt so bad. I feel like a failure as a parent...if he were sexually or physically abusing them I would be out the door,but for some stupid reason I feel more like his parent than his wife and I feel responsible for him. I feel like I owe it to him to stay. Before any of you think that he is in a bad mood once every few months,let me explain what we live with. He fluctuates between being really hyper and wanting to do EVERYTHING...RIGHT NOW...to the worst,most miserable lows. And the lows last and last...sometimes two or three weeks at a time. He will fly off the handle over anything...and this will range from him crying and going on and on about how he hates his life to throwing things,kicking our pets,mimicking me and insulting me until I cry,etc. I hate that he is bi-polar because during the highs,he is the man I married,but we hardly see those anymore. I feel awful for putting this person in my kids lives,and now I know I need to leave him. I guess at the end of this long a$$ story,I just want to hear from someone else that I am not some jerk who is walking out on her sick husband and that leaving is right.

Is he the father of your children?

Not yet, anyway. :jet:

:yawn: Boring. You're slacking in your old age.

No. He absolutely refuses to do anything. No counseling,no meds,nothing. When I threaten to leave,I get either sexual advances and him saying "Baby,nothign is wrong..everytihng is fine", or I get "F-you...get out,I hate my life,etc.".

He will never be able to adjust his balance of highs and lows without medication. He can live a full, happy and productive life with meds and they aren't meds that will make him a zombie. He has to take control of this situation, you CANNOT do it for him.

As with addictions, this disease sometimes requires a person to bottom out before they realize they need help to manage the disease.

You are not a bad person if you leave, you do have a choice. If you see how this is damaging your children I say you must leave until he takes control of HIS disease.

I don't have any hate or anger. I'm happy as a clam matter of fact.

That statement is the biggest steaming pile I've ever seen posted here. There is no one here quicker to unload on perfect strangers with hateful crap. The fact that you normally try to disguise it with "it's for their own good" really doesn't change anything.

I'm obviously biatchy enough on my own that I don't need any help. :diva:

But then you get right back on track with a 100% correct statement - I'm so confused! :lmao:

That statement is the biggest steaming pile I've ever seen posted here. There is no one here quicker to unload on perfect strangers with hateful crap. The fact that you normally try to disguise it with "it's for their own good" really doesn't change anything.



But then you get right back on track with a 100% correct statement - I'm so confused! :lmao:

Confused is right if you think being a biatch has anything to do with being unhappy or angry because it has nothing to do with either. I lack patience for grown people that act like my 4 year old and need to have their hands held and boo boos kissed. Just like you have the right to have no patience for my biatchiness I have the right to have no patience for idiots. :cds: :lmao:

That statement is the biggest steaming pile I've ever seen posted here. There is no one here quicker to unload on perfect strangers with hateful crap. The fact that you normally try to disguise it with "it's for their own good" really doesn't change anything.



But then you get right back on track with a 100% correct statement - I'm so confused! :lmao:
Pixie's a subscriber to the school of Tough Love... she tells it like it is, doesn't really care if you agree with her or disagree with her, and isn't going to sugar coat something just because it'll make it easier to swallow.

It's part of what makes her probably the best kind of friend to have around :huggy:

Pixie's a subscriber to the school of Tough Love... she tells it like it is, doesn't really care if you agree with her or disagree with her, and isn't going to sugar coat something just because it'll make it easier to swallow.

It's part of what makes her probably the best kind of friend to have around :huggy:

How does calling the OP a "douche" (post #37), among other unnecessary remarks, be mistaken for tough love and not sugar coating to make it easier to swallow?
Treating people with respect and not sugar coating advice can go hand in hand.

How does calling the OP a "douche" (post #37), among other unnecessary remarks, be mistaken for tough love and not sugar coating to make it easier to swallow?
Treating people with respect and not sugar coating advice can go hand in hand.
If you're acting like a douche she calls you a douche :shrug: Not sure how that could be made anymore clear.

How does calling the OP a "douche" (post #37), among other unnecessary remarks, be mistaken for tough love and not sugar coating to make it easier to swallow?
Treating people with respect and not sugar coating advice can go hand in hand.

I imagine sugar coating a douche would be pretty bad for a Jay in the long run. The OP should thank Pixie for helping her avoid what could have been a very sticky situation...

If you're acting like a douche she calls you a douche :shrug: Not sure how that could be made anymore clear.

No kidding, it's definitely clear. What's also clear, is the lack of respect she gives strangers looking for advice. Evidently you agree with treating strangers with no respect, personally I do not. I will extend respect to a stranger until they have proven to me that they do not deserve it. The OP needing help is no reason to disprove that she deserves respect.

No kidding, it's definitely clear. What's also clear, is the lack of respect she gives strangers looking for advice. Evidently you agree with treating strangers with no respect, personally I do not. I will extend respect to a stranger until they have proven to me that they do not deserve it. The OP needing help is no reason to disprove that she deserves respect.
The OP asked for advice, Pixie gave it. If you want someone to do it in a lovey feel good way, then don't ask advice of strangers :shrug:

Pixie's a subscriber to the school of Tough Love... she tells it like it is, doesn't really care if you agree with her or disagree with her, and isn't going to sugar coat something just because it'll make it easier to swallow.

It's part of what makes her probably the best kind of friend to have around :huggy:

If you're acting like a douche she calls you a douche :shrug: Not sure how that could be made anymore clear.

Wow!! Can your head be any further up her nice ass?

How does calling the OP a "douche" (post #37), among other unnecessary remarks, be mistaken for tough love and not sugar coating to make it easier to swallow?
Treating people with respect and not sugar coating advice can go hand in hand.


The OP is the douchiest douche bag of the douchiest kind. Go read its posts since it's been here. It has an open marriage because of the bi-polar husband, she takes her kids around this other man. She and her husband just bought a new car and found out he has over $8K in MVA fines. She has an affection for Xanax and vibrators, doesn't have a job nor any idea how to open a checking account and needs to find mens clothing in a size 5x. Sounds like a winner to me!

Really, do some homework before you give me crap about calling an idiot an idiot. It's not my job to make internet strangers with a need for attention feel good. I also don't need to give respect where none is due. :yay:

Wow!! Can your head be any further up her nice ass?

She is gonna have to wait for me to take my head out first :hot:

Wow!! Can your head be any further up her nice ass?
:lol: I just respect her for who she is, love her because of it :shrug:

Wow!! Can your head be any further up her nice ass?

Shut it! :buttkick: Everything she says is truth and she knows first hand I don't blow sunshine, even to my friends. :diva:

Shut it! :buttkick: Everything she says is truth and she knows first hand I don't blow sunshine, even to my friends. :diva:
:lmao: ESPECIALLY to your friends.

Which is kinda the way to be... because if I wanted a Yes Man, I'd find a Yes Man... I'd rather have a friend who cares enough to tell me the truth, even if I don't want to hear it.

Shut it! :buttkick: Everything she says is truth and she knows first hand I don't blow sunshine, even to my friends. :diva:


Well there ya go then.
As for the OP, I didn't research her every post (nor have I researched yours), therefore I do not know any of what you stated about the OP.
Respect as a trait that people have, is unfortunetly becoming extinct, you evidently don't care if people treat you with respect, since it's not one of your traits.

Ty - stop your squabbling. Pixie will never back down, and you are just making this tread more miserable in the process.

As for the original poster, you aren't doing the wrong thing by leaving. Sometimes support from total strangers is what it takes, and there is some support here. But I think you should check out this Domestic Violence Shelters for St. Mary's County, MD (http://www.peoples-law.org/finding/commres/counties/stmarys.html) and maybe give one of the places a call just to chat. Good luck.

Well there ya go then.
As for the OP, I didn't research her every post (nor have I researched yours), therefore I do not know any of what you stated about the OP.
Respect as a trait that people have, is unfortunetly becoming extinct, you evidently don't care if people treat you with respect, since it's not one of your traits.

You sure are smart... :dork: Or at least you like to think you are.

Let me type real slow for you since you don't get it and are having a hard time catching on.....

The OP has posted nothing but "look at me b/s" since she came on a couple weeks ago (which I pointed out to you). She wants nothing more than attention. She does not deserve respect or even a serious response. Got it. She acts like a douche so she gets treated like one.

Respect is certainly one of my traits but I also don't expect it from strangers on the internet. I see the world the way it really is not with my CareBear glasses on. I've yet to call you a douche, though you are on the verge if you don't get off my nuts. It's the internet, I have the right to call an ass an ass if I see fit.

Needs to feel he's not in this alone and I'm not sure that's been conveyed to him. Is there anyone who has gone through this who can spend time with the husband? It is a scary thing to all of the sudden realize "this is you." One more point---unless he's completely lost, I bet he knows there's something wrong but can't take the step toward making it right.

Just a theory.

:blahblahblah:
Why don't you both back-off and call it a day? TY is calling it respect - which is the wrong word to use. And you are getting all riled up over that. The correct wording should be "how about showing some common courtesy?"

In either case :ding: fries are done and mutual corners please.

You both are just squabbling over nothing.

Why don't you both back-off and call it a day? TY is calling it respect - which is the wrong word to use. And you are getting all riled up over that. The correct wording should be "how about showing some common courtesy?"

In either case :ding: fries are done and mutual corners please.

You both are just squabbling over nothing.

And your giving good advice to an idiot drama queen. At least I'm entertaining myself. I'm not riled up at all. I find the OP and TY very entertaining. You know me and I show PLENTY of common courtesy where its due and that's not here!

You know me and I show PLENTY of common courtesy where its due and that's not here!
Yes you do, and I understand you feel that way. I also understand where TY is coming from. Sometimes, people expect to see manners in certain "sympathetic" situations. Sometimes, those sympathetic situations aren't as sympathetic as they seem. Sometimes they are. :shrug:

But no matter, you two are disagreeing over something I bet you both agree with. But you are on seperate pages right now.

BTW, where have you been hiding? Has MK been keeping you "tied up"? :really:

Yes you do, and I understand you feel that way. I also understand where TY is coming from. Sometimes, people expect to see manners in certain "sympathetic" situations. Sometimes, those sympathetic situations aren't as sympathetic as they seem. Sometimes they are. :shrug:

But no matter, you two are disagreeing over something I bet you both agree with. But you are on seperate pages right now.

BTW, where have you been hiding? Has MK been keeping you "tied up"? :really:

I saw her saturday night :hot: :yum: :drool: although I was a little miffed not to be invited to the Ross shopping spree :drama:

Yes you do, and I understand you feel that way. I also understand where TY is coming from. Sometimes, people expect to see manners in certain "sympathetic" situations. Sometimes, those sympathetic situations aren't as sympathetic as they seem. Sometimes they are. :shrug:

But no matter, you two are disagreeing over something I bet you both agree with. But you are on seperate pages right now.

BTW, where have you been hiding? Has MK been keeping you "tied up"? :really:

We're not hiding so much, just getting burned out with the drunken debauchary all the time. We're like an old married couple now. I do however miss you bunches and we should do dinner soon! Veras is opening back up in a couple weeks and we've never had a bad meal there so we're super excited. :smoochy:

I saw her saturday night :hot: :yum: :drool: although I was a little miffed not to be invited to the Ross shopping spree :drama:

Did she tell you that I saw some conditioner for you there? It was only $12.?? something.

We're not hiding so much, just getting burned out with the drunken debauchary all the time. We're like an old married couple now. I do however miss you bunches and we should do dinner soon! Veras is opening back up in a couple weeks and we've never had a bad meal there so we're super excited. :smoochy:

Welcome to my world - old married couple with no druken debauchary. :bawl:

:lol:

No lie, I know we are in the boonies, but let me know about dinner. You are worth a drive. :wink:

Why do ppl feel the need to post personal stuff like this?

I never understood this either.

If you have a problem - get help.

I seriously doubt a message board is going to be the answer to your problem.

Did she tell you that I saw some conditioner for you there? It was only $12.?? something.

No she didnt :tap:

i like yours BTW looks good long like that I even asked her if you had highlights put in it because it looked so light and golden :huggy:

No she didnt :tap:

i like yours BTW looks good long like that I even asked her if you had highlights put in it because it looked so light and golden :huggy:

I had some gray hairs put in. :lol:

I had some gray hairs put in. :lol:

need any more

:lol:

:buddies:

I had some gray hairs put in. :lol:

They match your wrinkles and stretchy balls and look fabulous on you.

I can't wait till we're old together. :love:

They match your wrinkles and stretchy balls and look fabulous on you.

I can't wait till we're old together. :love:

RAPPB187! I'm shocked. :faint:

You are not a jerk who is walking out on her sick husband and leaving is right.

Seriously, what are you supposed to do? There are meds he can take to regulate him, and if he refuses to do that, what can you do? Like Tilted said, you have a duty to protect your children and prevent them growing up in a life of pure hell.

She doesn't want help, she wants attention..

I suggested to her in her original thread, that WHEN, not if, he goes, he's taking the whole family with him...

When he becomes suicidal he'll take the whole family with him..

She needed to get out months ago, but apparetnly that's not her priority.

I never understood this either.

If you have a problem - get help.

I seriously doubt a message board is going to be the answer to your problem.

Yeah, this is the last place I would come for advice.....for sure....

Yeah, this is the last place I would come for advice.....for sure....

:love:

They match your wrinkles and stretchy balls and look fabulous on you.

I can't wait till we're old together. :love:
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I hate it when youtube dicks up, but you can hear it in stereo, lols.

Sounds like something my family just went through.

He sounds very dependent. Leave for just a bit and it will eat him up.

Not yet, anyway. :jet:

Thanks. :ijustspitcoffeeallovermymonitor:

Thanks. :ijustspitcoffeeallovermymonitor:

Christ, like EITHER of you have any room to talk. You're psycho coming and going and she's a step closer to being an ex wife than I am. :yay:

and she's a step closer to being an ex wife than I am. :yay:
:lol: I'm going to differ with you with this one.... only you won't be my ex.... :evil:

Christ, like EITHER of you have any room to talk. You're psycho coming and going and she's a step closer to being an ex wife than I am. :yay:

:killingme

she's a step closer to being an ex wife than I am. :yay:

I am? Does this mean you're still happily married and living with Muggsy? :confused:

I am? Does this mean you're still happily married and living with Muggsy? :confused:

:faint:

I am? Does this mean you're still happily married and living with Muggsy? :confused:

No and I'm not pretending to be either. You were speaking of our currents were you not? Since I referenced not being MK's psycho ex-wife and you said not yet I don't know how you got Clyde in the mix. Nice try to draw the attention back to me and away from your own issues that even your friends talk about :lol:. I am pretty attention worthy! :diva:

No and I'm not pretending to be either. You were speaking of our currents were you not? Since I referenced not being MK's psycho ex-wife and you said not yet I don't know how you got Clyde in the mix. Nice try to draw the attention back to me and away from your own issues that even your friends talk about :lol:. I am pretty attention worthy! :diva:

That was Pixie, I'm assuming that you figured that out, but I heard straight up in July of 2006 when I was at the airport that you were leaving your SO. I was waiting for a plane and eating at Don Pablo's. Guess times change, huh?

That was Pixie, I'm assuming that you figured that out, but I heard straight up in July of 2006 when I was at the airport that you were leaving your SO. I was waiting for a plane and eating at Don Pablo's. Guess times change, huh?

Larry and I live in separate houses but we are still actively married - just spent the weekend in Baltimore. So you got inaccurate intel, unless you know something about my marriage that I don't. (And it was 2007, not 2006 - almost 2 years now)

Larry and I live in separate houses but we are still actively married - just spent the weekend in Baltimore. So you got inaccurate intel, unless you know something about my marriage that I don't. (And it was 2007, not 2006 - almost 2 years now)

Sorry, I left in summer of 2006 and met you July of 2006. Ask Christy about your phone call when I was sitting in front of here.

Active marriage. Sounds nice. Good luck with it.

that even your friends talk about

Nice try, but mine and Larry's living situation is no secret - common knowledge and has been since I moved down here.

So are you and Mugsy divorced now? Good news! :cheers: But you really shouldn't be throwing stones, if you know what I mean.

Sorry, I left in summer of 2006 and met you July of 2006. Ask Christy about your phone call when I was sitting in front of here.


And Larry was at Christy's party when all that stuff was going down - the ONLY time I've ever met you. Remember? We were still living together then. It will be two years in April that I moved down here. Pix was going with Mr. Brady at the time and can verify this, as she stopped by on moving day.

Active marriage. Sounds nice. Good luck with it.

Thanks!

*Edit: Maybe Larry wasn't at Christy's when you were there. I think I was down by myself. But not positive.

Nice try, but mine and Larry's living situation is no secret - common knowledge and has been since I moved down here.

So are you and Mugsy divorced now? Good news! :cheers: But you really shouldn't be throwing stones, if you know what I mean.

I shouldn't be throwing stones? :lmao: That's all your pretentious ass does! I'm not talking about your living situation; I'm talking about your marriage honey. I noticed you said "actively" and not "happily" married. You can :blahblah: about me all you want but your life is just as jacked up as mine has ever been.

And Larry was at Christy's party when all that stuff was going down - the ONLY time I've ever met you. Remember? We were still living together then. It will be two years in April that I moved down here. Pix was going with Mr. Brady at the time and can verify this, as she stopped by on moving day.



Thanks!

*Edit: Maybe Larry wasn't at Christy's when you were there. I think I was down by myself. But not positive.

Larry was at the party that year and you were still living with him. AFTER the party, while I was going to the airport was when you called all done with your pretty little marriage. If it's going great for you now, GREAT, but don't act all high and mighty. Maybe the separation helped. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

your life is just as jacked up as mine has ever been.

Not quite, Pix. :lol:

Not quite, Pix. :lol:

Keep on telling yourself that. Denial is all it is. :lmao:


What's really funny is you got all butt hurt and tried to tell me about throwing stones when you're the one that came in here trying to be cute towards me. :howdy:

you called all done with your pretty little marriage.

:lol: I should have a quarter for every time I was "done" with my pretty little marriage.

But obviously Larry and I are still married and still see each other frequently and do not date other people or anything like that. And it's never been a secret that we live apart - we've posted about it numerous times. So if people talk about it - woo woo! How upsetting! Might as well be all secrety-secret about the weather.

:lol: I should have a quarter for every time I was "done" with my pretty little marriage.

But obviously Larry and I are still married and still see each other frequently and do not date other people or anything like that. And it's never been a secret that we live apart - we've posted about it numerous times. So if people talk about it - woo woo! How upsetting! Might as well be all secrety-secret about the weather.


I really don't care. Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel like it's normal.

Keep on telling yourself that. Denial is all it is. :lmao:


What's really funny is you got all butt hurt and tried to tell me about throwing stones when you're the one that came in here trying to be cute towards me. :howdy:

I see that your bliss hasn't dwindled the stick in your ass, Miss Pixillated. I made a little joke. I thought it was funny. It was meant to be light and not set off your legendary temper.

I really don't care. Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel like it's normal.

:shrug:

Feel free to make a big deal out of it and whisper with your friends. Doesn't bother me any.

I see that your bliss hasn't dwindled the stick in your ass, Miss Pixillated. I made a little joke. I thought it was funny. It was meant to be light and not set off your legendary temper.

It didn't set off my temper. I thought like usually it was a tad hypocritical considering our current situations. Like YOU said, throwing stones. :huggy:

I thought like usually it was a tad hypocritical considering our current situations.

Which are?

You divorced yet? Or still married to one guy and living with another?

I mean, hell, if you want to compare - let's go. :shrug:

:lol: I should have a quarter for every time I was "done" with my pretty little marriage.

But obviously Larry and I are still married and still see each other frequently and do not date other people or anything like that. And it's never been a secret that we live apart - we've posted about it numerous times. So if people talk about it - woo woo! How upsetting! Might as well be all secrety-secret about the weather.

I learned something new today :lol:

How come you don't live together? :popcorn:

My dad and my stepmom didn't live together for most of their marriage. It's what worked for them.

UFC ain't got nothin on the forums..

DAMNIT, where's my beer..

It's quieted down some, cut men are working hard.. both fighters in their corners..

Someone poke them with a stick, get th em back out there..

DING DING

ROUND 2..

Damn, where's a girl in a thong when you need one... Here's your sign!!

How come you don't live together?

Because we were ready to kill each other. :lol: So this is what's worked, just like your dad and step-mom. Everyone is used to it by now so it's no big thing.

Which are?

You divorced yet? Or still married to one guy and living with another?

I mean, hell, if you want to compare - let's go. :shrug:

Filed! :diva: Like I said I don't have to be pretentious and hide or deny my mess. I won't bother to get anymore personal it wouldn't make you admit you're a wreck.

On a different note you may want to keep your cats inside. I gots connections at the Elementary School. :peace:

What's always amazing is that when I actively try to provoke Pixie, she doesn't take the bait - I get nothing for my effort. But when I make a random amusing comment, she comes out guns ablazin'. Go figure.

:popcorn:

Because we were ready to kill each other. :lol: So this is what's worked, just like your dad and step-mom. Everyone is used to it by now so it's no big thing.

Too bad your marriage sucked and you couldn't live with each other. Cause that's normal. :killingme

it wouldn't make you admit you're a wreck.

If you say so. :lol:

On a different note you may want to keep your cats inside. I gots connections at the Elementary School. :peace:
What, you're threatening my cats now? That's a new low. :yay:

Too bad your marriage sucked and you couldn't live with each other. Cause that's normal. :killingme

Normal to who? Who exactly defines normal?

My dad and stepmom were together for over 20 years and lived apart most of that time. It is what worked for them and they were happy.

What, you're threatening my cats now? That's a new low. :yay:

You might want to LoJack them.

Too bad your marriage sucked and you couldn't live with each other. Cause that's normal. :killingme

:roflmao:

OMG :killingme

What's always amazing is that when I actively try to provoke Pixie, she doesn't take the bait - I get nothing for my effort. But when I make a random amusing comment, she comes out guns ablazin'. Go figure.

At least you FINALLY admit it. :lol: You're not as good as you think you are, now are you? My guns are far from ablazin', for that to happen your opinion would have to matter and if you think for a second that it does you're giving yourself too much credit once again. Passive aggressive.

2nd round is starting a little slow.. though both fighters have got a couple of good solid hits in.. Vrai seems to be a little woozy, but it looks like she's setting a trap, waiting for Pixie to step into it.

If you say so. :lol:


What, you're threatening my cats now? That's a new low. :yay:

Keep um on a short leash. :killingme

That was a lighthearted jab. One would think you'd recognize the gesture. :cds: :confused:

I'm bored with this, wanna get lunch tomorrow?

On a different note you may want to keep your cats inside. I gots connections at the Elementary School. :peace:

:killingme

for that to happen your opinion would have to matter and if you think for a second that it does you're giving yourself too much credit once again.

Yet you're still in here, wailing away. :lmao:

Thanks for the free rent. :drama: :lol:

So, is it normal to live seperate and not be married?

Yet you're still in here, wailing away. :lmao:

Thanks for the free rent. :drama: :lol:

You're amusing, you know like a rolling joke. :kiss:

So, is it normal to live seperate and not be married?

s-e-p-a-r-a-t-e..................el retardo

s-e-p-a-r-a-t-e..................el retardo

Kiss my asssssssss.......EL MPD

Normal to who? Who exactly defines normal?

My dad and stepmom were together for over 20 years and lived apart most of that time. It is what worked for them and they were happy.

Some people can't think outside the box. :shrug:

So, is it normal to live seperate and not be married?

:killingme I don't know what the hell is "normal" anymore! But this thread has me laughing my azz off. So whatever works for everyone, enjoy. To each his/her own.

So, is it normal to live seperate and not be married?

I live separate with everyone I'm not married to. :shrug:

(And even the one I am! :jet:)

Some people can't think outside the box. :shrug:

Look at Ott and I. He sleeps in the basement and I wear his pants. Together for 29 years and married for almost 27.

I live separate with everyone I'm not married to. :shrug:

(And even the one I am! :jet:)

You have the luxury of having such a lifestyle.

The normal peons settle for separate beds or bedrooms.

I live separate with everyone I'm not married to. :shrug:

(And even the one I am! :jet:)

Ok, whew, just checking. :killingme

Kiss my asssssssss.......EL MPD

Thought I was on ignore? :killingme

You have the luxury of having such a lifestyle.

The normal peons settle for separate beds or bedrooms.
African tribes back in the day used to have all the women living in one village and all the men living in another. They'd do the conjugal visit thing, then go the hell home where they belong. Women raised the kids until the boys hit puberty, then off they'd go to Man Town.

They had the right idea. :yay:

Thought I was on ignore? :killingme

Not long enough. Bye bye MPD. :howdy:

African tribes back in the day used to have all the women living in one village and all the men living in another. They'd do the conjugal visit thing, then go the hell home where they belong. Women raised the kids until the boys hit puberty, then off they'd go to Man Town.

They had the right idea. :yay:

hmmmm.....That does sound quite nice....Can I be in your tribe?

African tribes back in the day used to have all the women living in one village and all the men living in another. They'd do the conjugal visit thing, then go the hell home where they belong. Women raised the kids until the boys hit puberty, then off they'd go to Man Town.

They had the right idea. :yay:

Some African women had more than 1 husband and when she went to pick a new husband out, she lined them up, naked. :coffee:

Some African women had more than 1 husband and when she went to pick a new husband out, she lined them up, naked. :coffee:

And then she'd do a pole dance? :lol:

Some African women had more than 1 husband and when she went to pick a new husband out, she lined them up, naked. :coffee:

I hope they didn't line up on cold days.

Some African women had more than 1 husband and when she went to pick a new husband out, she lined them up, naked. :coffee:

::threadkiller::

And then she'd do a pole dance? :lol:

Pretty much, but she didn't seem to have any excess laundry out of the deal. :shrug:

This thread makes me recall the old adage: "Absence makes the heart grow fonder."

:sigh:

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Well, now we know where she gets HER rocks off! :lmao:

Some African women had more than 1 husband and when she went to pick a new husband out, she lined them up, naked. :coffee:

How are you supposed to see if they have a big fat wallet in their pocket if they're naked? :confused:

How are you supposed to see if they have a big fat wallet in their pocket if they're naked? :confused:

:killingme :roflmao:

Now that is something for me to remember for the next time I hear a man say that all a woman wants is his money. Go to Africa! :buddies:

How are you supposed to see if they have a big fat wallet in their pocket if they're naked? :confused:

You need to go on a Safari; then you'll get it! :lmao:

:killingme :roflmao:

Now that is something for me to remember for the next time I hear a man say that all a woman wants is his money. Go to Africa! :buddies:

This comes from a promiscuous point of view!

This comes from a promiscuous point of view!

That's right, my point of view is real promiscuous. :killingme

You must be a real smart fella there Pulsestart!

Not long enough. Bye bye MPD. :howdy:

Bye, Ra Ra Retard!! :howdy:

:eyebrow:

I'd just like to know how a thread about an attention whore leaving her crazy psycho bipolar husband has turned in to a Pixie/MK bashing, Vrai/Larry dirty laundry airing episode of some crazed night time television soap opera type show.

I'd just like to know how a thread about an attention whore leaving her crazy psycho bipolar husband has turned in to a Pixie/MK bashing, Vrai/Larry dirty laundry airing episode of some crazed night time television soap opera type show.

:yeahthat:

When I read her first post in this thread I posted not knowing about all the other threads she started. After reading those, I realized she's someone with too much time on her hands and wants attention. She also seems to like to start threads to see how much shtuff she can get started on her. Strictly entertaiment from this point on.

I'd just like to know how a thread about an attention whore leaving her crazy psycho bipolar husband has turned in to a Pixie/MK bashing, Vrai/Larry dirty laundry airing episode of some crazed night time television soap opera type show.

Because that's how this place rolls.

So judgemental..............:killingme

:shocking:

So, she hasn't posted in a few days....wonder if she left him or just got bored and moved on to some other form of entertainment.

So, is it normal to live seperate and not be married?


Of course not...but people will tell themselves anything to make themselves feel better.

Why not file for divorce if you're seperated & living under two different households?

Of course not...but people will tell themselves anything to make themselves feel better.

Why not file for divorce if you're seperated & living under two different households?

Why is it not normal for two people dating to live separate?