Discuss..

Pros?

Cons??

Anyone own one??

personally, I'd go for the Audi Q7 or Touareg in V-6 TDI flavor. same price range too.

It's beautiful.........

I want it.

Touareg in V-6 TDI would be my choice too.

I'd take a serious look at a RAV4 before paying $45,000 for the ML.

In that class I'd look at Ford, too. Supposedly, they've turned the corner quality wise.

I'd take a serious look at a RAV4 before paying $45,000 for the ML.

In that class I'd look at Ford, too. Supposedly, they've turned the corner quality wise.
Rav4 is certainly not a POS, however guessing his desire with the choice, I am assuming that he is looking for more than the Rav4 can give him in creature comforts.
Personally, I would go for the 09 3500 DRW diesel, few more bucks than he wants to spend but the mileage for the size is outstanding. Ride may be a bit slack for him though.

Rav4 is certainly not a POS, however guessing his desire with the choice, I am assuming that he is looking for more than the Rav4 can give him in creature comforts.
Personally, I would go for the 09 3500 DRW diesel, few more bucks than he wants to spend but the mileage for the size is outstanding. Ride may be a bit slack for him though.

Fine by me. I'm all for whatever folks want. All I am pointing out is that I do know the RAV4 to be a very solid, quality vehicle.

If I understood his goal to be the $40 k plus category, I wouldn't have added the RAV4; I'd have suggested looking at Highlander, another great car I personally know.

:buddies:

We found this suv: used, less than 19K miles, for less than $30K (taking in to consideration our trade-in), in absolutely pristine condition.

We've been thinking about a new/newer vehicle for some time now, so this isn't an impulsive purchase. We've been all over the board from a two-seater convertible, a four-seater convertible, to a 4-door truck, to a SmartCar, to this vehicle.

The good thing is that we don't *need* a vehicle at this time, we want it. But the reality is that my current vehicle is a 2002 with 119K miles on it, and won't last forever. Do we replace it while we can still get a reasonable trade-in, or do we wait 'till it's a pile of nuts and bolts stranding me on the side of the road?

I haven't had a car payment in a year and a half, and I really like not having one. This purchase, obviously, changes that.

Your opinion?

We found this suv: used, less than 19K miles, for less than $30K (taking in to consideration our trade-in), in absolutely pristine condition.

We've been thinking about a new/newer vehicle for some time now, so this isn't an impulsive purchase. We've been all over the board from a two-seater convertible, a four-seater convertible, to a 4-door truck, to a SmartCar, to this vehicle.

The good thing is that we don't *need* a vehicle at this time, we want it. But the reality is that my current vehicle is a 2002 with 119K miles on it, and won't last forever. Do we replace it while we can still get a reasonable trade-in, or do we wait 'till it's a pile of nuts and bolts stranding me on the side of the road?

I haven't had a car payment in a year and a half, and I really like not having one. This purchase, obviously, changes that.

Your opinion?

If you want it, get it........:buddies:

There are several forums dedicated to the MB owner. Check 'em out.

We found this suv: used, less than 19K miles, for less than $30K (taking in to consideration our trade-in), in absolutely pristine condition.

We've been thinking about a new/newer vehicle for some time now, so this isn't an impulsive purchase. We've been all over the board from a two-seater convertible, a four-seater convertible, to a 4-door truck, to a SmartCar, to this vehicle.

The good thing is that we don't *need* a vehicle at this time, we want it. But the reality is that my current vehicle is a 2002 with 119K miles on it, and won't last forever. Do we replace it while we can still get a reasonable trade-in, or do we wait 'till it's a pile of nuts and bolts stranding me on the side of the road?

I haven't had a car payment in a year and a half, and I really like not having one. This purchase, obviously, changes that.

Your opinion?

Since 2003, I've gotten a new vehicle every three years; leases. I'd had my fill of high mile cars with every little thing in the world that no longer worked, wondering how much longer the rear or tranny or engine would hold up, etc.

Now, the idea of not having payments sounds really nice...given a good used car. My '07 Tacoma is done next February but I'm thinking about keeping this one. I have a trust level with Toyotas, especially one I've had since it was new.

My dad has an '06 Tahoe and it just feels and rides like a nearly 4 year old American car; the drive train makes noise, all the tight new car feel is gone.

BG, you just gotta decide between having the payment v. how much you trust your old one. Low 100,000's isn't all that bad, especially if the maintenance has been kept up.

Rav4 is certainly not a POS, however guessing his desire with the choice, I am assuming that he is looking for more than the Rav4 can give him in creature comforts.
Personally, I would go for the 09 3500 DRW diesel, few more bucks than he wants to spend but the mileage for the size is outstanding. Ride may be a bit slack for him though.

Try to find a used diesel ANYthing.

NOT an easy task. The ML 320 comes in CDI.. but for comparison purposes Carmax had several 08 ML350 only ONE 2008 diesel.. for $10,000 more.

And the Tourareg diesel. Haven't found one yet.

If I had a choice, I'd go with diesel.

There are two things drawing us in, one the sticker price is good, AND they want to give us $7500 trade on the Explorer.

Discuss..

Pros?

Cons??

Anyone own one??

I would recommend a tough comparison between the new and used price. I've seen this dealer over the last 6 months give some horrendous markdowns on new vehicles:

New Mercedes Benz Car Specials: New car, lease, auto finance specials, Mercedes-Benz of Annapolis Annapolis, Maryland (http://www.mercedesofannapolis.com/new-car-specials.aspx)

Mercedes has a huge backlog of new vehicles for sale and I've seen markdowns range from 4k on the base model low-end vehicles up to 20k on mid range vehicles like you are looking at.

With the sales tax credit from the stimulus, the diesel tax credit, and the near zero interest rates from Mercedes, the deals are pretty hot.

Qualified Advanced Lean-Burn Technology Vehicles (http://www.irs.gov/businesses/corporations/article/0,,id=203912,00.html)

I highly recommend their diesels. They're very quiet, don't smoke, and don't smell.

If you visit, talk to Derek Nedd, he will hook you up and treat you like royalty.

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The RAV4 is a good SUV type vehicle, I know a few people that have them, not one serious complaint from any of them.
Im just saying that when it comes to comfort and design, it does not compare with the Mercedes, but then, its not supposed to.

I would certainly go with diesel, 100k on a well maintained diesel is pretty much just broke in. People on the Diesel forum I frequent are showing 400k+ and still towing with their GM and Fords (dodge not so much)

That Tacoma you have should last well into the 200k range if its taken care of, and I suspect it is. Matter of fact, Toyota is introducing a new 1 ton DRW with a diesel that I think is going to take a big market share from the big three in that area. Mileage estimates are a bit low for it however.

My 3500 now has 62k on it, still has that new truck feel to it (including the feel of every pebble on the highway) as far as creature comforts, other than ride quality, the Mercedes has nothing that my truck doesnt have. I have A/C with personal controls for driver, passenger and back seat riders, I have the tv/dvd, all the gauges, sunroof, memory seats, heated seats, XM and Onstar Phone etc... and to me, its more comfortable to ride in due to the size inside. Parking it at a store is a pain in the ass though.

The main advantages of the diesel are power, torque and mileage. with my 3500DRW on the open road (not towing) I average right around 23~24 mpg, weekly back and forth to work I average around 18.
Wifes Jetta TDI is coming in with a solid 49 mpg back and forth to work for her. long highway trips we have seen 59 mpg. Comfort is good once you are in it but the in and out process requires a shoe horn and some silicone spray.

I just like big pickups, if you have a pickup it should be able to carry or tow anything that you think you might want to throw in it or hook it up to.

so, take all of my thoughts into consideration given the choices presented, I would seriously look at the Mercedes, but I would see if it came with a diesel option.

Unless I was planning on off-roading or towing something big, I'd choose a car based vehical over a truck based vehical.

I've never been a fan of "tall" vehicles, the design seems inherently unstable, if you need the room for a growing family, there are a lot of wagons available.

I just traded my old Subaru in on a "Limited Edition" one. Leather seats, two sunroofs, very nice handling and during that last snowstorm, I was doing the speed limit going down 235 on Monday morning.

Unless I was planning on off-roading or towing something big, I'd choose a car based vehical over a truck based vehical.

The reason I started looking at the GM trucks was this very reason.
The Fords are built high, the gave me the feeling that the were going to tip on the exit ramps.
The GMs are built low, smaller tires etc.. I can take the ramps at the same speed as most cars and not feel any side to side roll.
Now that being said, I do use mine for towing, though, the 3500 is still overkill for my smallish trailer.
If I was never going to tow, or load the back with heavy stuff I would most likely go for the SUV style vehicle over the pickup. Better mileage, easier to park and drive around town.
And I doubt I will ever take my truck off road. Call me crazy but, in my mind there is just something wrong with taking a (now) 57,000 dollar truck to the mud bogs.

Unless I was planning on off-roading or towing something big, I'd choose a car based vehical over a truck based vehical.

I've never been a fan of "tall" vehicles, the design seems inherently unstable, if you need the room for a growing family, there are a lot of wagons available.

I just traded my old Subaru in on a "Limited Edition" one. Leather seats, two sunroofs, very nice handling and during that last snowstorm, I was doing the speed limit going down 235 on Monday morning.

The big three has a message for you Subaru owners.

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:popcorn:

I will continue to buy American trucks, but when it comes to cars, Im now hooked on German engineering.
The U.S and the japs have nothing to compare in quality.

I will continue to buy American trucks, but when it comes to cars, Im now hooked on German engineering.
The U.S and the japs have nothing to compare in quality.

I agree. I believe Japanese cars have more quality than US cars though.

The big three has a message for you Subaru owners.

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Where can I send you a bill for my 2nd keyboard this weekend? That link is awesome!!

06 F350 SRW KR 6.0 diesel here. I like driving a big truck but wish I had a sporty car for the daily grind.

Try to find a used diesel ANYthing.

NOT an easy task. The ML 320 comes in CDI.. but for comparison purposes Carmax had several 08 ML350 only ONE 2008 diesel.. for $10,000 more.

And the Tourareg diesel. Haven't found one yet.

If I had a choice, I'd go with diesel.

There are two things drawing us in, one the sticker price is good, AND they want to give us $7500 trade on the Explorer.

If this is at a Mercedes dealer make sure they give you 1.99% interest also. Big special they are running on pre-owned certified cars, which sounds really good to me. I heard that the other night on tv and couldn't believe it, so had to look it up. Wanna buy my highlander? :lol:
edit: the 1.99% is only for the C class, the M class is 3.99%.

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The concept of anyone supporting that policy is just mind boggling

It's beautiful.........

I want it.

:yeahthat: There's a Mercedes truck at the LP Ford dealer - used with low miles. It is gorgeous! My truck can't get paid off soon enough. :lol:

I just traded in my ML430 last October, I wanted an SUV with a third row! It was expensive to maintain. We paid $1400 just to have the spark plugs changed. Parts and labor on Mercedes are expensive

:yeahthat: There's a Mercedes truck at the LP Ford dealer - used with low miles. It is gorgeous! My truck can't get paid off soon enough. :lol:

SHHHHHHH... which one do you think we were talking about??

I've seen that one too, Bob, it certainly is a nice looking truck. Aps, with todays stability systems, you would really have to be deliberately trying to induce a roll to get one to flip. Especially one in this class. Dont let the bodywork fool you, most of the real weight is fairly low. Having autocrossed a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the older Mercedes ESP technology, flipping one of these should be the last concern on anyones mind.

SHHHHHHH... which one do you think we were talking about??

I realized after I posted it might be the same vehicle. That's what I get for not reading the entire thread...first. :lol:

Anyhow, I hope you get the truck. :hot: :drool:

I would recommend a tough comparison between the new and used price. I've seen this dealer over the last 6 months give some horrendous markdowns on new vehicles:

New Mercedes Benz Car Specials: New car, lease, auto finance specials, Mercedes-Benz of Annapolis Annapolis, Maryland (http://www.mercedesofannapolis.com/new-car-specials.aspx)

Mercedes has a huge backlog of new vehicles for sale and I've seen markdowns range from 4k on the base model low-end vehicles up to 20k on mid range vehicles like you are looking at.

With the sales tax credit from the stimulus, the diesel tax credit, and the near zero interest rates from Mercedes, the deals are pretty hot.

Qualified Advanced Lean-Burn Technology Vehicles (http://www.irs.gov/businesses/corporations/article/0,,id=203912,00.html)

I highly recommend their diesels. They're very quiet, don't smoke, and don't smell.

If you visit, talk to Derek Nedd, he will hook you up and treat you like royalty.

MileOne Mercedes-Benz of Annapolis - Mercedes Benz, Service or Auto Body - Dealership Ratings (http://www.dealerrater.com/dealer/MileOne-Mercedes-Benz-of-Annapolis-review-15323/)

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:yeahthat: With the rock bottom interest, in many cases 0% and huge rebates, I would cost the thing out to see if new would not be better than used because I am pretty sure it would be close if not more beneficial to go new.

As far as Mercedes, where is the closest dealership? It would torque me off if I bought a high dollar car and then had to drive $70 miles for a repair even if it was a warranty repair

As far as Mercedes, where is the closest dealership? It would torque me off if I bought a high dollar car and then had to drive $70 miles for a repair even if it was a warranty repair

I want to say I saw/heard that some dealerships are driving to your location to drop off a loaner while taking your vehicle for service. I'm not too sure of the logs, but that would be a sweet deal! :yay:

:yeahthat: With the rock bottom interest, in many cases 0% and huge rebates, I would cost the thing out to see if new would not be better than used because I am pretty sure it would be close if not more beneficial to go new.

As far as Mercedes, where is the closest dealership? It would torque me off if I bought a high dollar car and then had to drive $70 miles for a repair even if it was a warranty repair

Annapolis is the closest dealership, but I found a local guy that worked on Mercedes

I found a local guy that worked on Mercedes

We'll be needing that information..

She did it.. I REALLY didn't think she would.. and until she signed that VERY last piece of paper I thought she was going to walk away.. but they made us a deal we couldn't refuse.

Now she's a proud new owner of an Obsidian Black ML350.

She let me drive it tonight.. WOW!! Those paddle shifters are the shiznee!!

We'll be needing that information..

She did it.. I REALLY didn't think she would.. and until she signed that VERY last piece of paper I thought she was going to walk away.. but they made us a deal we couldn't refuse.

Now she's a proud new owner of an Obsidian Black ML350.

She let me drive it tonight.. WOW!! Those paddle shifters are the shiznee!!

And this one goes out to the happy couple in their new Mercedes.

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:buddies:

And this one goes out to the happy couple in their new Mercedes.

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:buddies:

I did call like you suggested, but the name you gave was busy.

The salesman they gave me to, just kept repeating..

"IF it's not a certified Used Mercedes, you can't get the extended warranty"

and when I told him the deal I got it was..

"Well, I have a 2006, and 2005 certified used that I can match.. " Why would I want to buy a 2 or 3 year older car for the same deal?

Not once did he give me a straight answer on a new lease.. even though I told him payment was key, that if they could match the payment on a new lease..

In the end, I got a 2008 (they have one on their lot for 10k more than what I paid) got a GREAT trade in (twice what CarMax offered) AND an extended 100K warranty.

I did call like you suggested, but the name you gave was busy.

The salesman they gave me to, just kept repeating..

"IF it's not a certified Used Mercedes, you can't get the extended warranty"

and when I told him the deal I got it was..

"Well, I have a 2006, and 2005 certified used that I can match.. " Why would I want to buy a 2 or 3 year older car for the same deal?

Not once did he give me a straight answer on a new lease.. even though I told him payment was key, that if they could match the payment on a new lease..

In the end, I got a 2008 (they have one on their lot for 10k more than what I paid) got a GREAT trade in (twice what CarMax offered) AND an extended 100K warranty.

Cool deal. Glad it worked out very well for you. Enjoy, they're great vehicles!

I just traded in my ML430 last October, I wanted an SUV with a third row! It was expensive to maintain. We paid $1400 just to have the spark plugs changed. Parts and labor on Mercedes are expensive
all are expensive now.
my fuel filter if done at the dealership, just under 200
Oil Change at the dealership right around 100
air filter, around 100
trans filter around 199 (thats the screw on with a flush)

oh well, at least I dont have spark plugs.

We'll be needing that information..

She did it.. I REALLY didn't think she would.. and until she signed that VERY last piece of paper I thought she was going to walk away.. but they made us a deal we couldn't refuse.

Now she's a proud new owner of an Obsidian Black ML350.

She let me drive it tonight.. WOW!! Those paddle shifters are the shiznee!!I saw that it was gone this morning and I just HOPED it was parked in your driveway. :lol:

Congrats, BG!! :clap: You'll have to take me for a spin in it!! :buddies::love:

I saw that it was gone this morning and I just HOPED it was parked in your driveway. :lol:

Congrats, BG!! :clap: You'll have to take me for a spin in it!! :buddies::love:

I'm driving it.. bwhahahahah:yahoo:

Nice! :yay:

Enjoy. :cheers:

If this is at a Mercedes dealer make sure they give you 1.99% interest also. Big special they are running on pre-owned certified cars, which sounds really good to me. I heard that the other night on tv and couldn't believe it, so had to look it up. Wanna buy my highlander? :lol:
edit: the 1.99% is only for the C class, the M class is 3.99%.

We took the Mercedes back. We felt like we were deceived/ lied to, and no matter how good a deal it was, they didn't deserve her money.

Soooooooo.. we dropped the Mercedes off tonight, and drove STRAIGHT to the Toyota dealership where BG bought a FULLY loaded 2009 Highlander Limited. The only thing I can tell it doesn't have is the 120v outlet and the rear seat entertainment center..

LOT more room in the back seat for Bubba.. it DOES have the Navigation System as advertised.. back up camera.. power lift gate..

$$$$$, but my lady is SOOOO worth EVERY penny!

Fine by me. I'm all for whatever folks want. All I am pointing out is that I do know the RAV4 to be a very solid, quality vehicle.

If I understood his goal to be the $40 k plus category, I wouldn't have added the RAV4; I'd have suggested looking at Highlander, another great car I personally know.

:buddies:

Well, we took your suggestion and it cost us BIG!!:cds:

We took the Mercedes back. We felt like we were deceived/ lied to, and no matter how good a deal it was, they didn't deserve her money.

Soooooooo.. we dropped the Mercedes off tonight, and drove STRAIGHT to the Toyota dealership where BG bought a FULLY loaded 2009 Highlander Limited. The only thing I can tell it doesn't have is the 120v outlet and the rear seat entertainment center..

LOT more room in the back seat for Bubba.. it DOES have the Navigation System as advertised.. back up camera.. power lift gate..

$$$$$, but my lady is SOOOO worth EVERY penny!

So what's the scoop on the deceived, lied to stuff?

It costs more buying new, but I don't care, I never buy used vehicles.

:popcorn:

So what's the scoop on the deceived, lied to stuff?

It costs more buying new, but I don't care, I never buy used vehicles.

:popcorn:

The sticker on the window, the add on-line at their site, AND the CarFax site showed this truck as being loaded.

Navigation System

Back Up camera..

Rain sensing wipers..

Memory Seats

HID lights..

Power Lift Gate..

Ask the salesman about the Nav.. "You need the DVD, put it into the CD for the Radio and it will work"..

Got home did some research, NO NAV.. NO Back-up camera, NO HID lights, NO power lift gate...

They blamed it on their advertisers, and the people that made the sticker.

Now we have a Highlander with ALL of the above and then some, and it's brand new. First people to test drive.. when I looked down while driving it the Odo went over 9 miles.