Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.

Someone will find him attractive.

Butt for every seat... :lol:

Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.

Did you just say "dude"?

Did you just say "dude"?

She WAS talking about a guy so "dude" works.

Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.

Honey, we can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan.... but it's still a male dominated society...

anyhow, it's personality that counts, right??? :killingme

Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.You know you want some of dis!!! :dye:

You know you want some of dis!!! :dye:

What is that?

:ohwell:

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Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.

I think its fake. Like if you tell yourself something enough you're bound to believe it one day. They can act like God's gift but if you look at how a great many of them act its clear they have zero self worth.

WTH is that! :barf:

WTH is that! :barf:

The missing link? :shrug:

Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.

I'm not sure if you've been out in public lately, but, tragically, not ALL women are hard on themselves. At least not 'hard' in a level of commitment to appearance that I would recognize as more effort than my cat put out today.

As for the deeper meaning as regards men, it goes back to hunter/gatherer; if we don't have enough gumption to go out and spread our seed or hunt or gather, we die off. That is a biological, DNA level motivation to say "Hey baby, what's yer sign?" no matter how hideous we actually are. Survival of the "I am it" ist.

:lol:

I'm not sure if you've been out in public lately, but, tragically, not ALL women are hard on themselves. At least not 'hard' in a level of commitment to appearance that I would recognize as more effort than my cat put out today.

As for the deeper meaning as regards men, it goes back to hunter/gatherer; if we don't have enough gumption to go out and spread our seed or hunt or gather, we die off. That is a biological, DNA level motivation to say "Hey baby, what's yer sign?" no matter how hideous we actually are. Survival of the "I am it" ist.

:lol:

MK and I were in Ross a couple weekends ago and there was a girl in her early 20s with a belly shirt on and a whole lot of belly hanging out of it. The little girl in line behind her commented on it. :lmao:

I still attest that one both sides of the fence it's more a matter of "fake it till you make it" than real self esteem.

I still attest that one both sides of the fence it's more a matter of "fake it till you make it" than real self esteem.

I dunno - some of them are faking pretty heavy. Self confidence is always attractive, but me-me-me :diva: coming from a lamer guy is what you enjoy moments of hilarity about with your girlfriends later.

Usually women who are stuck on themselves have something to be stuck about - they're cute or have a good body or whatever. But guys will be stuck on themselves and it's like....????

I dunno - some of them are faking pretty heavy. Self confidence is always attractive, but me-me-me :diva: coming from a lamer guy is what you enjoy moments of hilarity about with your girlfriends later.

Usually women who are stuck on themselves have something to be stuck about - they're cute or have a good body or whatever. But guys will be stuck on themselves and it's like....????

But these same guys are the ones that will usually lay pipe in whatever will let them. Not exactly the model of self esteem.

I know some women who don't have much to be pompous about yet they walk around and dress like they just stepped out of a magazine. I have a pretty healthy self esteem and have often looked at these people like I wished I had a quarter of the ego they did.

The difference is mine is genuine. I see my faults along with my benefits. Checks and balances. These people don't have that built in good sense. Negative attention is still attention; if they scream loud enough that they are the $hit than someone somewhere may believe it.

Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.

I think it is an expectation level versus a reality level. I watched this old Dateline episode on MSNBC today where this man who clearly was not a top shelf candidate fell in love and was duped basically by a scammer over the internet. The pictures that were sent were of an adult star and not even of the person he was being scammed by. I was like Hello man , Do you really think this super hot chick wants to live in your mom's house with you in the basement and your 50 and she young hot and 25? He was devastated and It just really made me wonder. I know there is someone for everyone but he really needed a reality check.

Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever.

This is your way of telling me that I've gained weight....isn't it? :cds:

I was like Hello man , Do you really think this super hot chick wants to live in your mom's house with you in the basement and your 50 and she young hot and 25?.

:lmao:

:lmao:

You can't say it hasn't happened to you! I had some 50something year old man say something to me today in the grocery store. He quickly shushed when I walked up to MK. I may be knocking on 30 but still look like my early 20s; what in the hell would a 20 something want with some man in his 50s? Unless of course the girl is gold diggin but I'd be willing to bet those dudes don't pick up women in the grocery store.

You know you want some of dis!!! :dye:


Omg, that cannot be real! :lmao:

Why is it that women are so hard on themselves and the cutest gals will still criticize their looks or weight or whatever. Yet the gnarliest guy who really has nothing going for him thinks he's god's gift?

It's like, dude! What are you seeing in the mirror???? I never understand that.

This hurts :bawl:

You can't say it hasn't happened to you! I had some 50something year old man say something to me today in the grocery store. He quickly shushed when I walked up to MK. I may be knocking on 30 but still look like my early 20s; what in the hell would a 20 something want with some man in his 50s? Unless of course the girl is gold diggin but I'd be willing to bet those dudes don't pick up women in the grocery store.
I wasn't averse to older guys, but they had to have something going on: either good-looking, or intelligent or funny or something attractive. But then there'd be some guy my age who was just stupid and for some reason he'd think I should be interested in him.

I was always a dork magnet, anyway, because I tend to be nice to people and they think I really mean it. :lol:

This hurts :bawl:

I didn't mention you by name. :smack:

















:lol:

You can't say it hasn't happened to you! I had some 50something year old man say something to me today in the grocery store. He quickly shushed when I walked up to MK. I may be knocking on 30 but still look like my early 20s; what in the hell would a 20 something want with some man in his 50s? Unless of course the girl is gold diggin but I'd be willing to bet those dudes don't pick up women in the grocery store.

Does this mean I have to stop pming with lovinmaryland? :confused:

I dunno - some of them are faking pretty heavy. Self confidence is always attractive, but me-me-me :diva: coming from a lamer guy is what you enjoy moments of hilarity about with your girlfriends later.


While I was working there was this younger and unattractive guy trying to flirt with me to get what he wanted (which was something I explained that was against our policy....). After asking me for the umpteenth time if he could have this something he sticks his bottom lip, bats his eyes at me and says, "PWEEESE". I look at him dead in the face and say for the billionth time NO and add, "you're not even cute" hoping he would knock it off.

I'm thinking his mommy still powders his ass.

You can't say it hasn't happened to you! I had some 50something year old man say something to me today in the grocery store. He quickly shushed when I walked up to MK. I may be knocking on 30 but still look like my early 20s; what in the hell would a 20 something want with some man in his 50s? Unless of course the girl is gold diggin but I'd be willing to bet those dudes don't pick up women in the grocery store.
:pete: Like that's some sort of magic number that you become this old and ugly hag:drama:

I still get carded :bubble:

:pete: Like that's some sort of magic number that you become this old and ugly hag:drama:

I still get carded :bubble:

:smack: That's just because they are working on making a bigger tip.

I get AARP carded :bubble:

:coffee:

:pete: Like that's some sort of magic number that you become this old and ugly hag:drama:

I still get carded :bubble:

Can I get a :whoosh:... The point was even at that age looking a few years younger what in the hell was a 50something year old man hitting on me for? What was going through his head? Did he think I was going to jump on him right in the middle of the grocery store and tell him I'd been waiting for him? It's one thing if its someone you're familiar with through friends, work, whatever; its another when you come across as a dirty old bastard.

Can I get a :whoosh:... The point was even at that age looking a few years younger what in the hell was a 50something year old man hitting on me for? What was going through his head? Did he think I was going to jump on him right in the middle of the grocery store and tell him I'd been waiting for him? It's one thing if its someone you're familiar with through friends, work, whatever; its another when you come across as a dirty old bastard.
There's a lot of older guys dating way younger chicks in this area :shrug: More than I've seen in any other area, if we're going to be honest. Example, a couple my parents used to live next to... she's my age (29), he's my parents age (49). Gross is what I think it is... there is no way in hell I would EVER consider dating anyone my parent's age... but it's accepted as the norm around here :shrug:

There's a lot of older guys dating way younger chicks in this area :shrug: More than I've seen in any other area, if we're going to be honest. Example, a couple my parents used to live next to... she's my age (29), he's my parents age (49). Gross is what I think it is... there is no way in hell I would EVER consider dating anyone my parent's age... but it's accepted as the norm around here :shrug:
thats just sick :coffee:

thats just sick :coffee:
If the crown fits :shrug:

thats just sick :coffee:

:killingme

There's a lot of older guys dating way younger chicks in this area :shrug: More than I've seen in any other area, if we're going to be honest. Example, a couple my parents used to live next to... she's my age (29), he's my parents age (49). Gross is what I think it is... there is no way in hell I would EVER consider dating anyone my parent's age... but it's accepted as the norm around here :shrug:

I find this odd. How can a person who celebrates anything and everything "unconventional" regarding sex or relationships say a 20 year age difference in a hetero couple is "Gross" yet 2 guys in lipstick and skirts coating each other in baby oil and stroking each others scrotum hair while an attendant wearing a donkey mask gives them welts with a riding crop is A-OK?

I find this odd. How can a person who celebrates anything and everything "unconventional" regarding sex or relationships say a 20 year age difference in a hetero couple is "Gross" yet 2 guys in lipstick and skirts coating each other in baby oil and stroking each others scrotum hair while an attendant wearing a donkey mask gives them welts with a riding crop is A-OK?

:lmao:

I find this odd. How can a person who celebrates anything and everything "unconventional" regarding sex or relationships say a 20 year age difference in a hetero couple is "Gross" yet 2 guys in lipstick and skirts coating each other in baby oil and stroking each others scrotum hair while an attendant wearing a donkey mask gives them welts with a riding crop is A-OK?
Because it skeeves me out to even contemplate the idea of dating someone near my father's age. I know how I talk with my girls when I'm hanging out, I know how guys talk to their guys when they're hanging out, and I'm not keen on the idea of "shop" talk happening with dude's peers, which may or may not include my parents since they're of the same age.

It grosses my parents out too that he's dating a chick as old as their daughter :ohwell:

I find this odd. How can a person who celebrates anything and everything "unconventional" regarding sex or relationships say a 20 year age difference in a hetero couple is "Gross" yet 2 guys in lipstick and skirts coating each other in baby oil and stroking each others scrotum hair while an attendant wearing a donkey mask gives them welts with a riding crop is A-OK?

:roflmao:

Wonder why aps is late to this party..:confused:

Wonder why aps is late to this party..:confused:

He's probably pouting because Pixie dissed him in the grocery store.

Because it skeeves me out to even contemplate the idea of dating someone near my father's age.

That's because you're young. As you get older, all adults are the same age. Heck, Otter's my dad's age and I'd date him :hot:

That's because you're young. As you get older, all adults are the same age. Heck, Otter's my dad's age and I'd date him :hot:


:clap: What time should I send him over.

There's a lot of older guys dating way younger chicks in this area :shrug: More than I've seen in any other area, if we're going to be honest. Example, a couple my parents used to live next to... she's my age (29), he's my parents age (49). Gross is what I think it is... there is no way in hell I would EVER consider dating anyone my parent's age... but it's accepted as the norm around here :shrug:

It's one thing if its someone you're familiar with through friends, work, whatever; its another when you come across as a dirty old bastard.

You glazed over that part. I don't take issue with it at all. Grown people can do whatever they want BUT it amazes me when an older person approaches a younger person in an abrupt manner. That's what gives me the heebie geebies. It's one thing if it's an older person that you're familiar with that knows you actually have a personality; it's another when they have no clue and are just acting like horn dogs.

It's one thing if its someone you're familiar with through friends, work, whatever; its another when you come across as a dirty old bastard.

You glazed over that part. I don't take issue with it at all. Grown people can do whatever they want BUT it amazes me when an older person approaches a younger person in an abrupt manner. That's what gives me the heebie geebies. It's one thing if it's an older person that you're familiar with that knows you actually have a personality; it's another when they have no clue and are just acting like horn dogs.

What exactly did he say?

It's one thing if its someone you're familiar with through friends, work, whatever; its another when you come across as a dirty old bastard.

You glazed over that part. I don't take issue with it at all. Grown people can do whatever they want BUT it amazes me when an older person approaches a younger person in an abrupt manner. That's what gives me the heebie geebies. It's one thing if it's an older person that you're familiar with that knows you actually have a personality; it's another when they have no clue and are just acting like horn dogs.
IDK... I think anyone who's old enough to be my father hitting on me is a dirty old bastard. I see your point, though.

:clap: What time should I send him over.

Can I get him this weekend? I have some furniture to move. :yay:

Can I get him this weekend? I have some furniture to move. :yay:

Good luck with that. :lol:

BUT it amazes me when an older person approaches a younger person in an abrupt manner.

I think it's skeevy for anyone of any age to approach in an abrupt manner. You're supposed to feel out the situation first, see if there's any interest or any impediments (such as a SO) before you go for it.

What'd the grocery guy say to you?

IDK... I think anyone who's old enough to be my father hitting on me is a dirty old bastard. I see your point, though.

You do have to remember men are not the only ones that date out of their age limits! So is it ok for women to date younger guys?

Kris HAVE YOU OR HAVE YOU NOT BRAGGED ABOUT DATING A YOUNGER GUY? Although he may not have been 20 years younger or so, I do think you have bragged about you taking the "Cougar" status. :shrug:

You do have to remember men are not the only ones that date out of their age limits! So is it ok for women to date younger guys?

Kris HAVE YOU OR HAVE YOU NOT BRAGGED ABOUT DATING A YOUNGER GUY? Although he may not have been 20 years younger or so, I do think you have bragged about you taking the "Cougar" status. :shrug:

That ####'s gross, too.

Plus you can't be a "cougar" until you're in your 40s. Some 22 yo dating a 19 yo isn't a cougar.

He's probably pouting because Pixie dissed him in the grocery store.

:killingme

You do have to remember men are not the only ones that date out of their age limits! So is it ok for women to date younger guys?

Kris HAVE YOU OR HAVE YOU NOT BRAGGED ABOUT DATING A YOUNGER GUY? Although he may not have been 20 years younger or so, I do think you have bragged about you taking the "Cougar" status. :shrug:

#1, never bragged about it. Called him the boy toy.
#2, there's nothing wrong with men or women dating someone who's older or younger than them... but 20 years, for me personally, is too big of a stretch. It's silly to think everyone is going to be the exact same age range, but I'll go 10 years up or 5 years down. That being said, before you can throw my words back in my face, the boy toy was 20 when I met him and I was 28. By the time it was done, he was 21 and I was 29.
#3, Puma's are women in their late 20's, early 30's who date younger men, not Cougars.

What exactly did he say?

I think it's skeevy for anyone of any age to approach in an abrupt manner. You're supposed to feel out the situation first, see if there's any interest or any impediments (such as a SO) before you go for it.

What'd the grocery guy say to you?

If you're wondering, yes I am following you. :twitch:


I was in the produce section away from MK but walking back to where he and the babes were. Ick!

If you're wondering, yes I am following you. :twitch:


I was in the produce section away from MK but walking back to where he and the babes were. Ick!

:lmao: That is pretty creepy

:lmao: That is pretty creepy

I'd have called the cops. :ohwell:

:lmao: That is pretty creepy

:yeahthat:

Most men I have dated were 10 or more years younger than myself. I have dated a few older, up to 14 years older. I guess it all depends on if there's an attraction because age really doesn't matter. :shrug:

Most men I have dated were 10 or more years younger than myself. I have dated a few older, up to 14 years older. I guess it all depends on if there's an attraction because age really doesn't matter. :shrug:

:yay:

I prefer to view people as people not an age.

With that being said, however, Pixie's grocery stalker experience was definitely creepy no matter what the age.

That ####'s gross, too.

Plus you can't be a "cougar" until you're in your 40s. Some 22 yo dating a 19 yo isn't a cougar.
Thank you because thats what I thought also.

:yay:

I prefer to view people as people not an age.

With that being said, however, Pixie's grocery stalker experience was definitely creepy no matter what the age.

Agreed, stalkers of any age are creepy. :twitch:

With that being said, however, Pixie's grocery stalker experience was definitely creepy no matter what the age.

Good Lord, *perhaps* he was just being sarcastic.

:muchadoaboutnothing:

#1, never bragged about it. Called him the boy toy.
#2, there's nothing wrong with men or women dating someone who's older or younger than them... but 20 years, for me personally, is too big of a stretch. It's silly to think everyone is going to be the exact same age range, but I'll go 10 years up or 5 years down. That being said, before you can throw my words back in my face, the boy toy was 20 when I met him and I was 28. By the time it was done, he was 21 and I was 29.
#3, Puma's are women in their late 20's, early 30's who date younger men, not Cougars.

I think they'd be more like Bobcats than Pumas.

I think they'd be more like Bobcats than Pumas.
I don't make the names up. There was an article about them in some magazine not that long ago.

Good Lord, *perhaps* he was just being sarcastic.

:muchadoaboutnothing:


I could swallow that if I turned around and looked at him or something but he came up from behind me and said that. He started speaking and I turned around to see who was talking to me. I was unaware that I'd had anyone behind me. It was creepy.

#1, never bragged about it. Called him the boy toy.
#2, there's nothing wrong with men or women dating someone who's older or younger than them... but 20 years, for me personally, is too big of a stretch. It's silly to think everyone is going to be the exact same age range, but I'll go 10 years up or 5 years down. That being said, before you can throw my words back in my face, the boy toy was 20 when I met him and I was 28. By the time it was done, he was 21 and I was 29.
#3, Puma's are women in their late 20's, early 30's who date younger men, not Cougars.

COUGAR: Women in their 40s who smoke, drink and go to clubs and pick up men in their 20s. Cougars are often divorced, sometimes with cubs and financially independent.
PUMA: Women in their 30s, also referred to as "cougars in training."
COUGAR CUBS: Women in their 20s.
WILLING PREY: Men.
WHITETAIL DEER: The preferred choice of prey for cougars, usually men in their 20s.
LIVESTOCK: Married men, not that desirable, but an option if prey is scarce. Also known as "domesticated."
ENDANGERED SPECIES: Nice guys.
GAME WARDEN: Men in their 40s and 50s. Not that desirable because they carry tranquillizer guns and relocate cougars against their will.
GURUS: Successful self-made men who have made lots of money, usually in their 40s and 50s. To be closely studied but not hunted.
ROADKILL: One-night stands

I'd have called the cops. :ohwell:

An old man speaks to you in a store and you want to call the cops on him. Now we see why you don't have many friends

You know you want some of dis!!! :dye:



Who wouldn't want some of dat?

I'm not even gay, and I'd hit it.

An old man speaks to you in a store and you want to call the cops on him. Now we see why you don't have many friends

It was a joke. :rolleyes: I'm unaware that we've met or know each other but I don't need many friends.

An old man speaks to you in a store and you want to call the cops on him. Now we see why you don't have many friends

That wasn't very nice.

I find this odd. How can a person who celebrates anything and everything "unconventional" regarding sex or relationships say a 20 year age difference in a hetero couple is "Gross" yet 2 guys in lipstick and skirts coating each other in baby oil and stroking each others scrotum hair while an attendant wearing a donkey mask gives them welts with a riding crop is A-OK?

:roflmao:

:smack: That's just because they are working on making a bigger tip.

Carded by the door person :nono: They don't get any tips.

#2, there's nothing wrong with men or women dating someone who's older or younger than them... but 20 years, for me personally, is too big of a stretch. It's silly to think everyone is going to be the exact same age range, but I'll go 10 years up or 5 years down.
For dating purposes yes, it is stupid to go more than 15 years either way. For just fun and friends, it's totally Ok with me... Been there a lot! I just can't date gals near my age.
Guys want young, hot and lively women. Most men (not all) would jump at the opportunity. (Why do you think Hooters always packed)?
Some women look for a "daddy figure" to protect and take care of them (looks irrelevant in most cases). Why do I see soo many "babes" with "duds"? What do they see in them? Just what I said.
Not many of you ladies would turn down a guy 25 years older than you if he pulled up to a dock in a yacht or cigarette boat and asked if you'd like to go out for the day, would ya???
Nor would you 40 & 50 year old ladies turn down that 21 year old Chippendale dancer...Fess up; I've heard you talk about it...:evil:
I think it's skeevy for anyone of any age to approach in an abrupt manner. You're supposed to feel out the situation first, see if there's any interest or any impediments (such as a SO) before you go for it.
Although I agree with you, I must say:
"...But here in the real world"...:whistle:

Although I agree with you, I must say:
"...But here in the real world"...:whistle:

Here in the real world what, you're a freak? That's obvious.

Here in the real world what, you're a freak? That's obvious.
omg :faint:

Here in the real world what, you're a freak? That's obvious.

This is a women and men thread. It doesn't apply to you... Poof, gone, bye-bye newbie. :howdy:

omg :faint:

OMG what? It's apparently not used to being around human beings...

Although I agree with you, I must say:
"...But here in the real world"...:whistle:

Here in the real world what, you're a freak? That's obvious.

I wasn't averse to older guys, but they had to have something going on: either good-looking, or intelligent or funny or something attractive. But then there'd be some guy my age who was just stupid and for some reason he'd think I should be interested in him.

I was always a dork magnet, anyway, because I tend to be nice to people and they think I really mean it. :lol:

Ditto................:cds:

:coffee:

KLG2jaVdUMo

:coffee:

KLG2jaVdUMo

:killingme


With the divorce rate around 65% (?) now, it's all a crapshoot -so who cares?
There's a hill for every billy out there.


I actually feel kind of sorry for the poor "freaks" - they must get smacked down a lot looking for their matches...

tell me cabbage won't head.........:yay:

Here in the real world what, you're a freak? That's obvious.
MPD :loser: The lower you go in the county, the lower the life forms...
C'mon, was it really necessary to talk to Pixie?

She wasnt even aware of you, you could have continued oggling her and she would have been none the wiser.
:confused: :shrug:

Wow, I have learned a lot in this thread. I MUST stop dating people 10-15 years older than me... :twitch: just what I have always gone for...

Age is just a state of mind dear.

Age is just a state of mind dear.

:baby:

Wow, I have learned a lot in this thread. I MUST stop dating people 10-15 years older than me... :twitch: just what I have always gone for...
Actually, you'll get less drama and more respect from older men....

Age is just a state of mind dear.

:yay:

Actually, you'll get less drama and more respect from older men....

Speaking from my own experience... less drama yes, more respect not necessarily.