View Full Version : Harley Davidson or CSM??
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 12:22 PM
Which is better for motorcycle course?
Harley Davidson is $395.00
CSM is $295.00
So price doesn't much fall into play.
One better than the other????
Advice?
Vince
07-13-2009, 12:25 PM
Which is better for motorcycle course?
Harley Davidson is $395.00
CSM is $295.00
So price doesn't much fall into play.
One better than the other????
Advice?Is HD's course recognized by the State of MD? I know the one where you register through CSM is the course run by the MVA....or at least it used to be.
itsbob
07-13-2009, 12:26 PM
Which is better for motorcycle course?
Harley Davidson is $395.00
CSM is $295.00
So price doesn't much fall into play.
One better than the other????
Advice?
They are both taught by certified MSF instructors, can't imagine one better than the other.
I can imagine being sponsored by a dealer there's going to be some selling, even if unintentional.. (not a dig against Harley, I would imagine ANY dealer would try to).
If you have base access, the MSF course is taught for free, as they require it to ride on base.
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 12:45 PM
They are both taught by certified MSF instructors, can't imagine one better than the other.
I can imagine being sponsored by a dealer there's going to be some selling, even if unintentional.. (not a dig against Harley, I would imagine ANY dealer would try to).
If you have base access, the MSF course is taught for free, as they require it to ride on base.
My dad has base access. You think I could get in through him?
itsbob
07-13-2009, 12:47 PM
My dad has base access. You think I could get in through him?
Only if you still have your dependent ID..
That and the State does NOT recognize the on-base course, for no reason other than it's free!
You would still have to take the state drivers mounted exam..
The Harley and the CSM class, once you pass it, you no longer have that requirement.
rich70
07-13-2009, 12:49 PM
Which is better for motorcycle course?
Harley Davidson is $395.00
CSM is $295.00
So price doesn't much fall into play.
One better than the other????
Advice?
Wow, I took the course at the MVA and it was $75 and I was complaing about that. I can't belive how much it is now.
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 12:49 PM
Only if you still have your dependent ID..
That and the State does NOT recognize the on-base course, for no reason other than it's free!
You would still have to take the state drivers mounted exam..
The Harley and the CSM class, once you pass it, you no longer have that requirement.
Ah I figured, no dependant (not for many years) sometimes I wish though LOL
Ok so I think from the sounds of it, I am ok going with the CSM course.
After that do I still have to go take a test at MVA?
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 12:50 PM
Wow, I took the course at the MVA and it was $75 and I was complaing about that. I can't belive how much it is now.
That was my reaction too. I have been talking about doing it for a very long time and figured if I don't just go do it, I never will. It looks with the way prices are going up I better hurry up before it's even more..
My dad has base access. You think I could get in through him?
Probably not. with the increase in bike riders and the new emphasis on MSF course for a sticker the base classes are typically overbooked with many on stand by. Active duty get first crack, GS employees next then retirees and contractors get standby spots.
If you need the course relatively quickly best to just fork out the bucks and go. CSM used to have long wait as well but it might be better now. The provide bikes. I am not sure if the Harley course does or not. Both are MSF format so they should satisfy the state requirements.
aps45819
07-13-2009, 12:52 PM
HD and CSM course material are the same.
HD uses Buell Blast and CSM uses a Hnoda 250
HD stands for Hundred Dolla which explains the price difference
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 12:53 PM
Probably not. with the increase in bike riders and the new emphasis on MSF course for a sticker the base classes are typically overbooked with many on stand by. Active duty get first crack, GS employees next then retirees and contractors get standby spots.
If you need the course relatively quickly best to just fork out the bucks and go. CSM used to have long wait as well but it might be better now. The provide bikes. I am not sure if the Harley course does or not. Both are MSF format so they should satisfy the state requirements.
CSM actually has a class in 2 weeks I can get in. I was pretty shocked, but then again with the price I can understand too..
aps45819
07-13-2009, 12:55 PM
After that do I still have to go take a test at MVA?
If you pass the course, you'll get a certificate to take to the MVA who will issue you a new liscense. Only test at MVA is "You got the money?"
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 12:56 PM
If you pass the course, you'll get a certificate to take to the MVA who will issue you a new liscense. Only test at MVA is "You got the money?"
I am learning that very quickly.. :lmao:
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 12:57 PM
HD and CSM course material are the same.
HD uses Buell Blast and CSM uses a Hnoda 250
HD stands for Hundred Dolla which explains the price difference
Whats the difference in a Buell Blast and a Honda 250
one heavier than the other
both just small bikes
itsbob
07-13-2009, 01:00 PM
CSM actually has a class in 2 weeks I can get in. I was pretty shocked, but then again with the price I can understand too..
I'd jump on the CSM class.. Hard to believe they have ANY opening this time of year.
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 01:02 PM
I'd jump on the CSM class.. Hard to believe they have ANY opening this time of year.
That was what I thought, last year when I called they didn't have anything for 6 months.
Waiting for lady to call me back now
Are these classes only done in LaPlata? The website doesn't say if tey do them in Leonardtown..
aps45819
07-13-2009, 01:08 PM
Whats the difference in a Buell Blast and a Honda 250
one heavier than the other
both just small bikes
Buell Blast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_Blast)
Honda Rebel 250 (http://powersports.honda.com/2009/rebel.aspx)
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 01:11 PM
Buell Blast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_Blast)
Honda Rebel 250 (http://powersports.honda.com/2009/rebel.aspx)
Thanks
glhs837
07-13-2009, 01:26 PM
They are both taught by certified MSF instructors, can't imagine one better than the other.
I can imagine being sponsored by a dealer there's going to be some selling, even if unintentional.. (not a dig against Harley, I would imagine ANY dealer would try to).
If you have base access, the MSF course is taught for free, as they require it to ride on base.
Bob, you sure about this? I dont think contractors get it free, I think they have to pay. Not sure about retired guys.
itsbob
07-13-2009, 01:41 PM
Bob, you sure about this? I dont think contractors get it free, I think they have to pay. Not sure about retired guys.
From what I unerstand, contractors have to take a day off.. that's their only cost for the course..
Government don't.. it's part of our 40 hours of required training..
desertrat
07-13-2009, 02:29 PM
Bob, you sure about this? I dont think contractors get it free, I think they have to pay. Not sure about retired guys.
No cost.
ImAChvyGirl
07-13-2009, 03:09 PM
That was what I thought, last year when I called they didn't have anything for 6 months.
Waiting for lady to call me back now
Are these classes only done in LaPlata? The website doesn't say if tey do them in Leonardtown..
They are done in LaPlata off of Radio Station road where they do the CDL course across from Laural Springs ball park.
sanchezf
07-13-2009, 03:10 PM
They are done in LaPlata off of Radio Station road where they do the CDL course across from Laural Springs ball park.
Oh Thanks
I thought it was at the college in LaPlata
ylexot
07-14-2009, 12:34 PM
Problem with the base course for new riders is that you have to supply your own bike. I was happy with the CSM course and the CSM course also got me on base since they just look at your MSF card which is the same no matter where you take the course.
ylexot
07-14-2009, 12:36 PM
They are done in LaPlata off of Radio Station road where they do the CDL course across from Laural Springs ball park.
Actually, the classes are at CSM in LaPlata. The two days of riding/testing are off of Radio Station Rd.
dn0121
07-14-2009, 12:44 PM
Wow, the course is $25 in Ohio.
forceofnature
07-14-2009, 06:39 PM
The CSM course is fine. HD provides no other benefit.
If you ever want to be an MSF instructor the advanced course is free and you will get some pay for your time as an instructor.
aps45819
07-14-2009, 11:07 PM
The CSM course is fine. HD provides no other benefit.
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:buttkick: You get that really cool HD bar and shield logo on your certificate
BS Gal
07-14-2009, 11:28 PM
I took the CSM course and liked it. If you can get in in two weeks, jump on it. Tomorrow it could be filled up. The spots go fast!
:buttkick: You get that really cool HD bar and shield logo on your certificate
:envy:
aps45819
07-15-2009, 12:49 PM
:envy:
:drama: :lol:
Asmodeus
07-15-2009, 03:01 PM
Last I checked the CSM course was a 17 hour course and the HD Riders Edge course is 25 hours (more time on the bikes). Some dealers will give you a discount on an HD if you buy one within x-amount of time after the course (Annapolis does not do this).
As a matter of fact, I bought my son a spot in the Annapolis HD course for his H.S. grad gift. He did the first two nights of classroom Mon & Tues. Right now he is out at Tipton airport where they have their course laid out, riding.
The Buell 500 is closer in power and size to the Magna 700 I bought for him than the Rebel 250. The 250 is closer to his little sisters yamaha 50.
Doesn't matter where you go, only matters you learn and practice. Always ride safe.
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