Maybe its just because of all the BMW talk in here but man there really are a ton of those buggers in the area.
Who drives the one with the 2 hard saddle bags and the "trunk"? I saw you the other day.

Maybe its just because of all the BMW talk in here but man there really are a ton of those buggers in the area.
Who drives the one with the 2 hard saddle bags and the "trunk"? I saw you the other day.

:killingme that narrows it down

Maybe its just because of all the BMW talk in here but man there really are a ton of those buggers in the area.
Who drives the one with the 2 hard saddle bags and the "trunk"? I saw you the other day.
color?
model?
color of riding gear worn by rider?
location seen?

:killingme that narrows it down

The silver one :yay:

bob drives his on webster.... hard to miss those hid's

The silver one :yay:

I don't usually have the side cases on my silver BMW,




:gossip: the one made by Suzuki :lol:

I don't usually have the side cases on my silver BMW,




:gossip: the one made by Suzuki :lol:

I thought about you the other day. On another bike site they had top 5 tips to prevent your bike from being stolen. I said #1 should be to buy a V-strom because it is aso damn ugly no one would try to steal it.

I thought about you the other day. On another bike site they had top 5 tips to prevent your bike from being stolen. I said #1 should be to buy a V-strom because it is aso damn ugly no one would try to steal it.

:killingme You're right
It's so damn ugly I have to ride it to keep from having to look at it :lol:

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My side cases are off of mine.

A guy from California (and other western states) switched to Triumph because he took it up the butt every time he went to the BMW dealer.
Three BWWs and over 150,000mi, so a dedicated fan, but just would take it any more.

Is it that way here, outrageous services charges?

A guy from California (and other western states) switched to Triumph because he took it up the butt every time he went to the BMW dealer.
Three BWWs and over 150,000mi, so a dedicated fan, but just would take it any more.
Is it that way here, outrageous services charges?

That's the way is is at EVERY dealer :lol:

Buy a Honda and your 600 mile service where you basicly get an oil change and a dozen items "checked" runs around $300

A shop manual and some tools is always a good investment

That's the way is is at EVERY dealer :lol:

Buy a Honda and your 600 mile service where you basicly get an oil change and a dozen items "checked" runs around $300

A shop manual and some tools is always a good investment

You bet. The only work the shop does for me is replacing a tire, just because it's easier. But I still pull the wheel myself and hand it to them.

A guy from California (and other western states) switched to Triumph because he took it up the butt every time he went to the BMW dealer.
Three BWWs and over 150,000mi, so a dedicated fan, but just would take it any more.

Is it that way here, outrageous services charges?

The R series are so easy to work on why would you WANT the dealership to service it?

I can do the oil, and valves in about an hour.. the only 1/2 way difficult task is changing the fuel filter, and it's not too difficult. Bleeding the ABS Brakes is a little tricky, but again not difficult after you've done it once or twice.

You can find directions, with pictures, online to do about anything..

Yeah the dealer wants a lot of money to do the services, but they also provide the parts and tools so you can do it yourself at much less cost.

aps45819 & itsbob

You boys must be taken by the city slickers.

I've bought two new Triumphs in the last 12 months, one in Frederick, and one in PA.
My 500 mile checkup/adjustments and oil change was $160 the first time, (with 4 qts of Mobil 4T synthetic), and about $105 with the second bike, and 6 qts of 4T.

I had 2 oil changes on the frist bike before I traded, did the second change myself. I felt I got a good price on the oil at $10.50/qt. I had the shop manual for it.

My Rocket gets another change at 10,000 miles. I'm thinking I might do one sooner, but my dealer says no need. I'll watch the color.

I don't know what the other shops are charging.
The guy that swapped his BMW seems tickled with the Triumph service charges, but didn't mention any numbers.

the only 1/2 way difficult task is changing the fuel filter, and it's not too difficult.

You probably don't have a fuel filter on the new bike. I don't...or at least not one that can be changed.

BTW, I generally don't ride with the side bags on, so it wasn't me.

aps45819 & itsbob

You boys must be taken by the city slickers.

I've bought two new Triumphs in the last 12 months, one in Frederick, and one in PA.
My 500 mile checkup/adjustments and oil change was $160 the first time, (with 4 qts of Mobil 4T synthetic), and about $105 with the second bike, and 6 qts of 4T.


:lol:
My first service was about $20 fo oil and a filter
Damn those city slickers

You probably don't have a fuel filter on the new bike. I don't...or at least not one that can be changed.

BTW, I generally don't ride with the side bags on, so it wasn't me.

If they are like some newer cars, its integral to the pump, and meant to last the life of the pump. We are much better about fuel quality than we used to be.

aps45819 & itsbob

You boys must be taken by the city slickers.

I've bought two new Triumphs in the last 12 months, one in Frederick, and one in PA.
My 500 mile checkup/adjustments and oil change was $160 the first time, (with 4 qts of Mobil 4T synthetic), and about $105 with the second bike, and 6 qts of 4T.

I had 2 oil changes on the frist bike before I traded, did the second change myself. I felt I got a good price on the oil at $10.50/qt. I had the shop manual for it.

My Rocket gets another change at 10,000 miles. I'm thinking I might do one sooner, but my dealer says no need. I'll watch the color.

I don't know what the other shops are charging.
The guy that swapped his BMW seems tickled with the Triumph service charges, but didn't mention any numbers.

You can't change your own oil or service your own bike and WE are the city slickers??

I think your helmet might be on too tight.

You can't change your own oil or service your own bike and WE are the city slickers??

I think your helmet might be on too tight.
I think you need to improve your reading skills. Hope your driving skills are better.
I specifically mentioned that I did the second oil change myself.
The first time around I want the dealer to do his job and make sure there are no factory problems. When it went out the door it had 15 miles on it.

$20 for an oil change?
That wouldn't buy me a generic filter and quart of oil.
Those BMWs must be cheap ass things to run.

I hear the Russians liked that airhead so well they copied it for their Ural cruiser. 35 Hp, man, that's some machine.
I trust your actual BMWs do better than the clones.
Or are you riding one of those BMW crotch rockets I see around?

I hear the Russians liked that airhead so well they copied it for their Ural cruiser. 35 Hp, man, that's some machine.
I trust your actual BMWs do better than the clones.
Or are you riding one of those BMW crotch rockets I see around?

Do you have ANY idea what you are talking about?

The only thing you have right, is URAL used a BMW design for their bikes.

It's from about the same time frame the US Army stole BMW deisgns and sent them to Harley to design a bike (which they did).

The URAL is ALMOST identical to the BMW produced in the 19THIRTIES! So comparing a URAL to today's BMW is somewhat dimwitted.

And you spent $10.50 for a QUART of oil.. yeah, you're a regular Einstein aren't you?

And Triumph Rocket?

50% more engine displacement..

50% more cylinders...

for a net LOSS of 11% power to weight.

yeah, YOU should be talking about motorcylcle engineering..

I think you need to improve your reading skills. Hope your driving skills are better.
I specifically mentioned that I did the second oil change myself.
The first time around I want the dealer to do his job and make sure there are no factory problems. When it went out the door it had 15 miles on it.

$20 for an oil change?
That wouldn't buy me a generic filter and quart of oil.
Those BMWs must be cheap ass things to run.

I always use Rotella T oil for the first 10K miles. Using a conventional oil first allows a good break-in. It's about $10 a gallon at WalMart.

$160 seems a little expensive for an oil change.
Every time around I want to be sure there are no problems.

wAnd Triumph Rocket?

50% more engine displacement..

50% more cylinders...

for a net LOSS of 11% power to weight.

yeah, YOU should be talking about motorcylcle engineering..
Well, if you're looking for efficiency, who knows what you might end up with.
I mean really.
I know this will surprise you, but efficiency wasn't my primary concern.
Believe me, I have all the power (read: torque) I want, and if I get bored I'll add the supercharger to boost the hp to 250+
I didn't buy the Rocket for efficiency.
Which brings me to my only complaint.
They told me it would make my male sex organ bigger, and I haven't seen any change.
Dang.

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aps45819

A buddy of mine, probably about your age, rebuilt an R900 from the early 70's (not sure of the 'R900', but you know what I mean). He loves it, although he did hit a deer with it. He got thrown into the bushes, but not really hurt. He loves those full faces too. I have several friends about half my age that ride, and they share your views in that regard.
His dad bought one of the new Urals with side car, he won't admit it's a dog, but my friend says he would like to sell it.

I''ve been a fan of BMW (from a distance) ever since 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintaince' came out. Too rich for my blood. When I went to Triumph I didn't even shop BMW, but I figure they haven't gotten any cheaper.
Triuimph wants me to use T4, so that's what I use. I shop in
Cumberland, and only found one auto store that carries it. $10.49 a quart. I read on a different board that someone found it for about $6 or $7, don't know, out west somewhere I think.

If I wasn't running Triumph I'd probably do BMW. Nothing wrong with the metric cruisers, if you like that sort of thing, I don't. I did the Harley thing a few years back, really disappointing. All show, no go.

Cheers.

I just have to put in a sales pitch for the Rocket.
My friends call it the Monster Bike, but it rides small (relatively, of course). It's only big in the garage and parking lots.
I took the new TBird for a ride, and guys that bought it love it, but too much '
American style' (read: Harley) and not enough 'Triumph heart' to suit me. Weighs about the same as the Rocket (standard).

This is my first cruiser. The Harley was a 1000 Sporster, and my 895 Bonnie would stomp it into the ground.

The Rocket is very well balanced.
When I have she who must be obeyed on the back I stay in fourth gear from 25mph to 75mph. Does wonderful.
If I'm out by myself and in the passing mood third gear does just fine at 80mph. I hardly ever use fifth.
I put the Jardines on for a little more punch, and some VAroom you guys don't like. It rumbles, but not obnoxious.

The Rocket is a one of a kind bike, so obviously not for everyone.

Last winter I rode The Bonnie every month except January, but it was an easy winter. I have the heated vest and gloves, and the heated grips now. I often rode when it was in the 20's, neoprene face mask and googles, loved it.
Hoping the snow holds off this winter too.

I''ve been a fan of BMW (from a distance) ever since 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintaince' came out. Too rich for my blood. When I went to Triumph I didn't even shop BMW, but I figure they haven't gotten any cheaper.


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Base price for your Rocket and the BMW RT are almost identical at $16,500.

Base price for your Rocket and the BMW RT are almost identical at $16,500.Well, the RT has half the displacement, and 2/3 the troque and ponies. That's a lot less beef. The R3 performs the same on the flat with a lightweight as on a step incline with two lard asses, not sure the RT would do the same.
The R3 Standard is a hot rod. The RT is a fast luxury sedan , IMHO.
It does well in the quarter mile, only a second under the Rocket.

Unfortunately the R3 does not have the ABS.


The Thunderbird 2010 starts at $12,500, for $2g you can add the ABS and big bore, boost displacement, ponies and torque over the RT. Another $2g for bags and other creature comforts on the RT. Again, same money, more beef with the Triumph.

But, I will say the difference is not as much as I expected.
The BMWs are efficient and Triumphs are bruisers.

I think Triuimph and BMW both have niche markets, that will both expand as riders get as tired of the HD clones as you and I probably are.

Triumph sells about 50,000 units a year, probably a lot less than BMW.

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aps45819

A buddy of mine, probably about your age, rebuilt an R900 from the early 70's (not sure of the 'R900', but you know what I mean). He loves it, although he did hit a deer with it. He got thrown into the bushes, but not really hurt. He loves those full faces too. I have several friends about half my age that ride, and they share your views in that regard.
His dad bought one of the new Urals with side car, he won't admit it's a dog, but my friend says he would like to sell it.

I''ve been a fan of BMW (from a distance) ever since 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintaince' came out. Too rich for my blood. When I went to Triumph I didn't even shop BMW, but I figure they haven't gotten any cheaper.
Triuimph wants me to use T4, so that's what I use. I shop in
Cumberland, and only found one auto store that carries it. $10.49 a quart. I read on a different board that someone found it for about $6 or $7, don't know, out west somewhere I think.

If I wasn't running Triumph I'd probably do BMW. Nothing wrong with the metric cruisers, if you like that sort of thing, I don't. I did the Harley thing a few years back, really disappointing. All show, no go.

Cheers.

I don't ride a BMW
Triumph doesn't make oil
You're riding a metric cruiser

Cheers

Well, the RT has half the displacement, and 2/3 the troque and ponies. That's a lot less beef. The R3 performs the same on the flat with a lightweight as on a step incline with two lard asses, not sure the RT would do the same.
.

Makes no difference, HP and Torque.. what matters is PER POUND..

You have twice the displacement, an extra cylinder, and >10% LESS HP per pound.. THAT's a major difference..

Well, the RT has half the displacement, and 2/3 the troque and ponies. That's a lot less beef. The R3 performs the same on the flat with a lightweight as on a step incline with two lard asses, not sure the RT would do the same.
The R3 Standard is a hot rod. The RT is a fast luxury sedan , IMHO.
It does well in the quarter mile, only a second under the Rocket.

Unfortunately the R3 does not have the ABS.


The Thunderbird 2010 starts at $12,500, for $2g you can add the ABS and big bore, boost displacement, ponies and torque over the RT. Another $2g for bags and other creature comforts on the RT. Again, same money, more beef with the Triumph.

But, I will say the difference is not as much as I expected.
The BMWs are efficient and Triumphs are bruisers.

I think Triuimph and BMW both have niche markets, that will both expand as riders get as tired of the HD clones as you and I probably are.

Triumph sells about 50,000 units a year, probably a lot less than BMW.

Watch out for them 4-wheelers........:killingme

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I don't ride a BMWSo, you think you win a prize?
Triumph doesn't make oilAnother one with poor reading skills. They RECOMMEND an oil. Get your mommy to help if you don't undersand the difference.
You're riding a metric cruiserWell, slang is slang. it means what you want it to. I can find catalogs for metric cruisers and they have parts for HDs. Are HDs Metric Cruisers? Maybe so.
In my part of the civilized world 'metric cruiser' means rice burner.
You are free for it to mean whatever you want it to.
You got a rice burner, or spagetti burner?

Makes no difference, HP and Torque.. what matters is PER POUND..

You have twice the displacement, an extra cylinder, and >10% LESS HP per pound.. THAT's a major difference..Well, I didn't realize you were the motorcycle Czar.

Put an 800 pound load on my T3 on the same load on an RT and try to tell me I won't run away from you in a heartbeat. Drop the load to 400 pounds and the same.

You don't understand the difference between probability and statistics.
I don't expect you to understand ratios.

If the bikes have no riders or loads, what you say makes sense.
I don't know about yours, but my bike needs a rider.
The 'per poiund' is for a driverless bike. Ain't never seen one of those.

You want a nice little compact bike, that pours it's heart out for you to go fast, you got it.

My beast stomps up the hills and doesn't break a sweat.

So, you think you win a prize?
Why else would you feel the need to explain to me the history of BMW :shrug:

Another one with poor reading skills. They RECOMMEND an oil. Get your mommy to help if you don't undersand the difference.
I can read, that's why I use an oil with better specs than the brand that the manufacturer recieves a kick back on :lol:
Well, slang is slang. it means what you want it to. I can find catalogs for metric cruisers and they have parts for HDs. ARe HDs Megtric Cruisers? Maybe so.
In my part of the civilized world 'metric cruiser' means rice burner.
You are free for it to mean whatever you want it to.
You got a rice burner, or spagetti burner?

It's a reference to the type of hardware used in construction, SAE or Metric
American brand manufacturers use SAE hardware, the rest of the world uses metric.

Well, I didn't realize you were the motorcycle Czar.

Put an 800 pound load on my T3 on the same load on an RT and try to tell me I won't run away from you in a heartbeat. Drop the load to 400 pounds and the same.

You don't understand the difference between probability and statistics.
I don't expect you to understand ratios.
If the bikes have no riders or loads, what you say makes sense.
I don't know about yours, but my bike needs a rider.
The 'per poiund' is for a driverless bike. Ain't never seen one of those.

You want a nice little compact bike, that pours it's heart out for you to go fast, you got it.

My beast stomps up the hills and doesn't break a sweat.

Oops.

Oops.No shiat.

For someone with his Doctorate in statistics and probability, Bob doesn't know jack. :roflmao:

:popcorn:

Well, I didn't realize you were the motorcycle Czar.

Put an 800 pound load on my T3 on the same load on an RT and try to tell me I won't run away from you in a heartbeat. Drop the load to 400 pounds and the same.

You don't understand the difference between probability and statistics.
I don't expect you to understand ratios.

If the bikes have no riders or loads, what you say makes sense.
I don't know about yours, but my bike needs a rider.
The 'per poiund' is for a driverless bike. Ain't never seen one of those.

You want a nice little compact bike, that pours it's heart out for you to go fast, you got it.

My beast stomps up the hills and doesn't break a sweat.


Here you're going to need this 67392

I added 200 pounds to each bike.


R3 140/904=.15 hp/lb 147/904=.16ftlbs/lb

RT 110/705=.16 hp/lb 85/705=.12ftlbs/lb

So what matters most? I'd say a lot matters on how quickly that awesome 147ftlbs falls off.

Well, I didn't realize you were the motorcycle Czar.

Put an 800 pound load on my T3 on the same load on an RT and try to tell me I won't run away from you in a heartbeat. Drop the load to 400 pounds and the same.




You and your partner need to park the bike and get your fatasses up and walk..


If I weighed 400 pounds I wouldn't ride a bike, I'd buy a Ford Heavy Duty.

BUT if I take my weight (since I'd be the one riding both bikes) and apply MY weight to both bikes..

505 + 235 and HP = 110 (2009 RT)

Lets see that equals 740 pounds..

110/740 = .148 HP per Pound OR 6.72 Punds per HP

and your bike 788 + 235 and HP = 107 (2009 Rocket)

That equals 1023

.104 HP per pound (or .1368 on an older better made Rocket).. OR 9.56 pounds per HP (or 7.3 lbs on an older Rocket)


The disadvantage is HUGE.. almost 50% on the apples to apples comparison 2009 to 2009..

Even going back to the BETTER Rocket, there is still a disadvantage though not as great.

Yep, I don't know ratios, or numbers.

I'll give you volume.. I'm sure your bike has WAAAY more decibels.. especially when it's trying to lug your 400 pound fatass up a hill.

You and your partner need to park the bike and get your fatasses up and walk..


If I weighed 400 pounds I wouldn't ride a bike, I'd buy a Ford Heavy Duty.

BUT if I take my weight (since I'd be the one riding both bikes) and apply MY weight to both bikes..

505 + 235 and HP = 110 (2009 RT)

Lets see that equals 740 pounds..

110/740 = .148 HP per Pound OR 6.72 Punds per HP

and your bike 788 + 235 and HP = 107 (2009 Rocket)

That equals 1023

.104 HP per pound (or .1368 on an older better made Rocket).. OR 9.56 pounds per HP (or 7.3 lbs on an older Rocket)




The disadvantage is HUGE.. almost 50% on the apples to apples comparison 2009 to 2009..

Even going back to the BETTER Rocket, there is still a disadvantage though not as great.

Yep, I don't know ratios, or numbers.

I'll give you volume.. I'm sure your bike has WAAAY more decibels.. especially when it's trying to lug your 400 pound fatass up a hill.

I thought that Triumph claimed 140HP?

I thought that Triumph claimed 140HP?

2009 they detuned it to 107HP..

140 HP was WAAAY too much for their riders to handle.

You and your partner need to park the bike and get your fatasses up and walk..


If I weighed 400 pounds I wouldn't ride a bike, I'd buy a Ford Heavy Duty.

BUT if I take my weight (since I'd be the one riding both bikes) and apply MY weight to both bikes..

505 + 235 and HP = 110 (2009 RT)

Lets see that equals 740 pounds..

110/740 = .148 HP per Pound OR 6.72 Punds per HP

and your bike 788 + 235 and HP = 107 (2009 Rocket)

That equals 1023

.104 HP per pound (or .1368 on an older better made Rocket).. OR 9.56 pounds per HP (or 7.3 lbs on an older Rocket)


The disadvantage is HUGE.. almost 50% on the apples to apples comparison 2009 to 2009..

Even going back to the BETTER Rocket, there is still a disadvantage though not as great.

Yep, I don't know ratios, or numbers.

I'll give you volume.. I'm sure your bike has WAAAY more decibels.. especially when it's trying to lug your 400 pound fatass up a hill.

Well it looks like you got your head up your butt and it looks like it’s up to me to straighten you out, again.
Desertrat tried to help you out, but you’re just too thick skulled.

The R3T dropped hp in favor of torque. Also dropped the 240 rear tire. The standard and classic both have 140hp.

I rounded the weight of 2 riders to 400 pounds, let’s talk real numbers.

I bought the R3 to ride double, I’m like you, weight in at 235 (well, 240 at the Dr office). I don’t have the nerve to ask SWMBO how much she weighs, but I figure 370 combined is close.

The lighter the load, the better the RT looks, the heavier the load, the better the R3 looks, that’s what I meant about ratios.

Desertrat used dry weight for the R3.
Bob used wet weight for the R3T, and dry weight for the RT. Yeah, I guess he thinks that's fair.

Wet for the R3 is 772, it has a bigger gas tank, less accessories (than the R3T).
Wet weight for the RT is 571 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_R1200RT).

Using Desertrat’s math for my sweetie an I:

R3 140/1142 (772+370) =.122 hp/lb 147/1142 = .128ftlbs/lb
RT 110/941 (571 +370)=.117hp/lb 85/941= .090 ftlbs/lb

Point 005 is hardly a difference, but an advantage.
Point 038 isn’t much either, but it is just the start.

Add some camping gear, and/or adult beverages, and who would rather take an interstate trip on the RT instead of the R3? Easy answer, a BMW fan.

You can tell me all day long my engine is working just as hard as yours, and I won’t believe it.

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My apologies aps, I should have indicated Bob (for thinking I knew nothing about BMW and Ural).

I don’t think Triumph is getting a kickback from every quart of Mobil T4 they sell because it MIGHT go into a Triumph.

I don’t buy generic filters because I like my Triumph shop, and want to support it. The oil, I buy at autozone.

Dry Weight (lbs/kg) 788 / 357.4

This is right off of the spec sheet.

Didn't care enough to research the fact that there were THREE different Rockets, and if you wanted to compare apples to apples, it WOULD make sense to compare BMW RT to the Rocket Tour 3, those are both touring bikes.

Your bike would be more inline with the K1300R. Naked Sport Bike (at least in your mind that's what your bike is) with four cylinders, but still at half the displacement.

Point 005 is hardly a difference, but an advantage.
Point 038 isn’t much either, but it is just the start.
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And it only took them building an engine 50% bigger, with an extra cylinder to get there..

WOW!

And it only took them building an engine 50% bigger, with an extra cylinder to get there..

WOW!

I thought BMW was a CAR?????????

I thought BMW was a CAR?????????

Well, they build those too, but those are in their SLOOOOW department.

And it only took them building an engine 50% bigger, with an extra cylinder to get there..

WOW!

Math just isn't your strong suit.

RT 1170 cc
R3 2294 cc

The engine is nearly 100% bigger.

Muscle, or efficiency?
I'll take muscle.


Being right or being wrong?
I'll take being right.

Math just isn't your strong suit.

RT 1170 cc
R3 2294 cc

The engine is nearly 100% bigger.

Muscle, or efficiency?
I'll take muscle.


Being right or being wrong?
I'll take being right.

RT is a 2 cylinder, Rocket it three, an extra cylinder, 50% bigger.

And you're right, it's TWICE the displacement for little or no gain.

Hummm, size is based on the number of pistons.
That means my first bike, the 1966 Yamaha Twin Jet 100, is the same size as the BMW 1200RT.

Let's see, 9.2 hp, weighted about 125 pounds, maybe less. I used to pick that thing up to park it. Only cost $450. What a bargain.
Gee, maybe I should get rid of the Rocket and buy back that Twin. I'll have to do the math and see how efficient it was.

No, what am I thinking.
Give me the muscle!

Nice to see this went from a I thought I saw someone to every little spec on the bikes.

Ive seen a few more BMW bikes this week and it seems all of them have those little saddle bags. Guess you guys need somewhere to put your purses :dye:

Nice to see this went from a I thought I saw someone to every little spec on the bikes.

Ive seen a few more BMW bikes this week and it seems all of them have those little saddle bags. Guess you guys need somewhere to put your purses :dye:

Yeah, but the muscle between our legs isn't our bike.. :buddies:

Yeah, but the muscle between our legs isn't our bike.. :buddies:

Good thing, or you'd be riding mopeds.
Don't wish that on my worst enemy.

Ive seen a few more BMW bikes this week and it seems all of them have those little saddle bags. Guess you guys need somewhere to put your purses :dye:

You must be talking about Harleys. They're the ones with leather bags with tassels and fringe. *cough*GAY*cough* :biggrin:

You must be talking about Harleys. They're the ones with leather bags with tassels and fringe. *cough*GAY*cough* :biggrin:

Leave us out of this. You Eurosnobs can go right back to shaking your Internet wieners at each other. :lol:

:ohwell: I fell so left out...... Not a ricer, not a EuroTrash, not a Harley....

:ohwell: I fell so left out...... Not a ricer, not a EuroTrash, not a Harley....more a car than a bike

:fixed:

Feel better?

:fixed:

Feel better?

You're just jealous.... :lol:

Almost dropped it. But almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades...

Low fast corner, felt the rear tire break loose. Stayed with it, didn't over-react, and it caught a second or two later. But for that brief moment, I was power-sliding thru the corner.

:WHUFF!:

Nice to see this went from a I thought I saw someone to every little spec on the bikes.

Ive seen a few more BMW bikes this week and it seems all of them have those little saddle bags. Guess you guys need somewhere to put your purses :dye:

You have a bike yet?

... or still sitting on the porch watching and wishing?

You're just jealous.... :lol:

Almost dropped it. But almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades...

Low fast corner, felt the rear tire break loose. Stayed with it, didn't over-react, and it caught a second or two later. But for that brief moment, I was power-sliding thru the corner, the blonde behind me holding tight; then I woke up.

:WHUFF!:



:killingme

:killingme

:lmao:

You have a bike yet?

... or still sitting on the porch watching and wishing?

Nope no bike yet. I just thought id ruffle the BMW guys feathers with that purse statement.

You must be talking about Harleys. They're the ones with leather bags with tassels and fringe. *cough*GAY*cough* :biggrin:
Nope they are the smooth color matched hard saddle bags. Saw another BMW bike with them yesterday. It only had the 2 on each side and none on the middle back.

Nope they are the smooth color matched hard saddle bags. Saw another BMW bike with them yesterday. It only had the 2 on each side and none on the middle back.

Standard equipment on the tourers.

Nope they are the smooth color matched hard saddle bags. Saw another BMW bike with them yesterday. It only had the 2 on each side and none on the middle back.

Sure you're not mistaking the BMW for a V-Strom? Lots of those around with the same looking saddlebags as a BMW.

Hmm, Id bet not. Actually, not a lot of Stroms around. Ive sen Aps, and mine, and theres one slightly gunged up that parks on base, a silver 650, and thats about it. I see quite a few more BMWs than Stroms. Seems every parking lot on base, at least the hangars, all have at least one BMW bike:)

Hmm, Id bet not. Actually, not a lot of Stroms around. Ive sen Aps, and mine, and theres one slightly gunged up that parks on base, a silver 650, and thats about it. I see quite a few more BMWs than Stroms. Seems every parking lot on base, at least the hangars, all have at least one BMW bike:)

Maybe. I always look for the tell-tale BMW logo on the tank and assumed because there wasn't one, it was something else. Maybe the logo isn't always there?

Maybe. I always look for the tell-tale BMW logo on the tank and assumed because there wasn't one, it was something else. Maybe the logo isn't always there?

I have a BMW logo on the front of the side fairing on both sides..

From the back it looks like a 'GIVI' bike, there is no BMW logo on the back..

And of course the 'kidney grill" on the front of all BMW's, cars and bikes..

All the Beemer EXCEPT the LT have removable sidecases, and optional removable topcases.. the LT none of the boxes can be removed.

Yes im 100% positive it was a BMW and not a Vstrom bike.
I also spotted a BMW with a sidecar on 235. It was a nice dark blue.

Yes im 100% positive it was a BMW and not a Vstrom bike.
I also spotted a BMW with a sidecar on 235. It was a nice dark blue.

I saw that one too. Very nice looking.

I saw that one too. Very nice looking.

Me too.

Yes im 100% positive it was a BMW and not a Vstrom bike.
I also spotted a BMW with a sidecar on 235. It was a nice dark blue.

Do they call it a "sidecar"? One would think BMW would call it something techno like "Dual Linked Color Matched Passenger Pod" or something. "Sidecar" is so.....ordinary.

Do they call it a "sidecar"? One would think BMW would call it something techno like "Dual Linked Color Matched Passenger Pod" or something. "Sidecar" is so.....ordinary.

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Do they call it a "sidecar"? One would think BMW would call it something techno like "Dual Linked Color Matched Passenger Pod" or something. "Sidecar" is so.....ordinary.

Good point.